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What changes would you implement to prepare for ICC World Cup 2027?

First step would be to remove Inzamam ul Haq. No player should have a relative working within PCB, it’s a conflict of interest.

Next step would be to get rid of Mickey and the rest of the coaching staff. He’s too close to our players, we need someone professional and not someone that’s befriending our players.

We need a coach that will bring in an attacking mindset into the team, maybe someone like Razzaq whose dome a bit of coaching in domestic.

We need two bowling coaches, right now we have no spin bowling coach.

We need two batting coaches, one of which works on power hitting.

My perfect coaching setup would consist of Razzaq, AbD, Afridi and Collingwood as fielding coach.
 
Makes no difference. It will be just as bad, if not worse. This decline started in 1999, and the trajectory is downwards. So they get rid of Babar, Mickey, and some other cosmetic changes but the PCB will remain as a useless organisation that couldn't organise a piiss up in brewery.
 
Not one post about this.

Babar is a rubbish captain, yes.

Our batting and bowling have flopped, yes.

Our coaching staff doesn’t have any clue whatsoever about out struggles, yes.

Three chairmen in the space of one year does lead to instability, yes.

But the root cause of this rubbish performance is the blatant disrespect given to Test and ODI cricket by the PCB and its cricketers.

On what basis is Shadab your lead spinner? This lad has pre-dominantly played T20 cricket for the past one year or so and his ODI numbers have suffered tremendously. Same goes for Nawaz, he averages 150+ in the middle overs when spinners are supposed to pick up wickets and control the run-rate. These two haven’t played much first-class cricket back home either, and only surviving on a healthy diet of T20 cricket. How on earth were no other spinners tried, keeping in mind the World Cup was in India, is mind-boggling to say the least. We wasted matches on the likes of Usman Qadir and Zahid Mahmood, who have no future in international cricket.

In addition to this rubbish, PCB has organized the LEAST number of ODIs since the last World Cup for any test nation, which is frankly embarrassing and shows their priorities.

If fans blame Australia, New Zealand, England etc for sending B/C teams, you have to figure that the PCB themselves do not respect this format unfortunately. There was no way of testing the bench strength, when the number of matches was laughable from the beginning itself.

This performance isn’t surprising, even with Naseem Shah present we would have struggled. We conceded a 250+ partnership to Gurbaz and Zadran two months ago aswell, when any half decent team wouldn’t let that happen ever.

PCB needs to accept responsibility for this aswell, but as we all know, the current incompetent buffoon is too busy arranging trips for his relatives to India.
 
It is what it is, everything will be forgotten and forgiven next time we win a game. Imam is not ODI player, he will score 100s against Zim and cement his place for next 4 years. Fakhar being out of form bode bad for us but then we do not have any replacements either so back to Mr Parchi
 
The round Robin will be pointless in a couple of days as top 4 will be settled have a group of 4 with 16 teams top 2 from each play K.os
 
Pak needs prioritise domestic cricket. Every player must play Quaid e Azam trophy. Just let them play 1 league apart from PSL but not at the expense of 1st class cricket.

Saim Ayub
Muhammad Haris
Ihsanullah
Faisal Akram
Sufyan muqeem

These players need to be nurtured. They can become stars
 
YousafTheBeast said:
First step would be to remove Inzamam ul Haq. No player should have a relative working within PCB, it’s a conflict of interest.

Next step would be to get rid of Mickey and the rest of the coaching staff. He’s too close to our players, we need someone professional and not someone that’s befriending our players.

We need a coach that will bring in an attacking mindset into the team, maybe someone like Razzaq whose dome a bit of coaching in domestic.

We need two bowling coaches, right now we have no spin bowling coach.

We need two batting coaches, one of which works on power hitting.

My perfect coaching setup would consist of Razzaq, AbD, Afridi and Collingwood as fielding coach.
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Oh man I remember when quetta gladiators during psl early days were damn near unbeatable thanks to viv Richards being the coach.

It's a shame he isn't interested in long term coaching but the guy was such a 🔥 coach.

I loved how he said the bouncer rule in t20 was a joke, in my days bowlers would bowl 6 bouncers an over against at me and even then they'd be shaking in their boots 😂😂
 
Honestly I am feeling more optimistic after yesterdays game. The blowback on TV and social media is nothing like I have ever seen before. People who a few months ago were calling Babar "king" "legend" etc have now finally realised what a woeful captain he is and rightfully so. He is taking the lions share of the blame for this embarrassing performance with his buddies Shadab, Rizwan and Shaheen also coming under great scrutiny.

Moving forward radical changes are needed and in order to implement these changes Sarfraz needs to be brought back

These would be my XIs for each format:

Test: Shan, Abdullah, Saud, Babar, Fawad, Omair Yusuf, Sarfraz, Abrar, Naseem, Mir Hamza, Shaheen/ Nauman

ODI: Saim, Sharjeel, Saud, Babar, Sarfraz, Azam K, Imad, Abrar, Mir Hamza, Naseem, Shaheen/Hasnain

T20: Saim, Sharjeel, Omair, Sarfraz, Danish A, Azam K, Imad, Abrar, Amir, Rauf, Hasnain
 
CerebralPatriot said:
Honestly I am feeling more optimistic after yesterdays game. The blowback on TV and social media is nothing like I have ever seen before. People who a few months ago were calling Babar "king" "legend" etc have now finally realised what a woeful captain he is and rightfully so. He is taking the lions share of the blame for this embarrassing performance with his buddies Shadab, Rizwan and Shaheen also coming under great scrutiny.

Moving forward radical changes are needed and in order to implement these changes Sarfraz needs to be brought back

These would be my XIs for each format:

Test: Shan, Abdullah, Saud, Babar, Fawad, Omair Yusuf, Sarfraz, Abrar, Naseem, Mir Hamza, Shaheen/ Nauman

ODI: Saim, Sharjeel, Saud, Babar, Sarfraz, Azam K, Imad, Abrar, Mir Hamza, Naseem, Shaheen/Hasnain

T20: Saim, Sharjeel, Omair, Sarfraz, Danish A, Azam K, Imad, Abrar, Amir, Rauf, Hasnain
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Sarfraz isn't needed any more please
 
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Except 2-3 players, the whole team needs a complete makeover. At least 5-7 new faces who have specialized skills. This bits and pieces players theory isn't working. If SSA concentrates on his batting, he can be an all rounder who can score 30 odd and open bowling, providing better team balance. Need 2 power hitters in top 6. Right now all are 100 SR type of players. Need a 150 SR batters
 
Babar should step down today, give the captaincy to Shaheen temporarily.

Our future captain is Muhammad Haris, get him into the team ASAP so we have enough time to prepare for the WC27
 
There's nothing that can be done.

This is a systematic and national problem. In all walks of life Pakistan is lacking; cricket is another example.

Personally, I'd burn the whole thing down and start from the ground up, but our society is rife with nepotism, rishwat, yaar-dosti, cha-paani that tackling systemic failings in the search for professionalism is a long way off.

These guys do not value the flag on their chests.
 
Sunzi said:
There's nothing that can be done.

This is a systematic and national problem. In all walks of life Pakistan is lacking; cricket is another example.

Personally, I'd burn the whole thing down and start from the ground up, but our society is rife with nepotism, rishwat, yaar-dosti, cha-paani that tackling systemic failings in the search for professionalism is a long way off.

These guys do not value the flag on their chests.
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My wise father once told me

"Son if you ever leave Australia to go get work in Pakistan, then I will disown you 💀"

Yes he actually said that lol.

But fr, the biggest problem that the entire nation faces is that none of us are united. As jinnah said, no power can undo Pakistan except Pakistan itself.

Pcb is no different. Their is more politics in PCB then their is in the controversial Chinese goverment. And those guys throw a riot on literally everything like banning youtube and Google in the country just because America made it. Goes to show how worse for wear Pcb is.
 
So Pakistan finds itself on the brink of going home this World Cup. Despite entering the tournament as "favorites" among the general public, Babar Azam's men have failed to meet all expectations and at the moment we stand at a four-game losing streak, first time ever in Pakistan world cup history.

So the question arises, how do we move forward to try to rejuvenate the prospects of Pakistan cricket.

Do we require simple changes in the form of moving some players around?

Do we require a change of leadership?

Or is it much more structural than that? Is reform required in all aspects of Pakistan domestic and grassroots cricket culture in order to ensure that Pakistan is able to be compete with the big teams of cricket again
 
Pakistan needs a total revamp of the ODI side.

They need to separate it from the T20 team now
 
Can't change how Rizwan playes because of his balance issues and limited repertoire but Babar isn't doing justice to his talent. He needs to be more aggressive. He needs to open the batting, take advantage of powerplay fields. He also has the ability to play good bowling.
 
First, there is a need for changing the team management and appointing one chief selector for the long term. Stability is the key.
 
Make sure that those who deserve ODI selection have played List A cricket - Pakistan Cup or played in Shaheen List A games.

Don't select them on the basis of PSL/T20 games or on the basis of QEA/Test cricket.

Both Pakistan and England made the mistake of assuming that ODI cricket is easy to adapt to by playing other formats.

It doesn't work like that.

You only get better at playing a particular format by playing that format.
 
PCT should let go timid/passive approach. Aggressive mindset is needed.

Batters who can play long innings consistently with high SR.
Bowlers who can take wickets upfront & maintain pressure with excellent control.


Saim Ayub / Fakhar
Haider Ali / Huraira
Babar / A.Shafique
Tayab Tahir / any other spin basher like Zalmi's lefthander wk batsman Haseebullah.
Qasim Akram
M.Haris (c) >>> he successfully led team to Emerging Asia Cup Final.
Wasim jnr
Naseem
Shaheen
Abrar Ahmad
2nd spinner / 4th pacer.

Spinners' pool is = Abrar - lb legspinner, Mehran - sla lefty, Sufiyan Muqeem - lws lefty legspinner, Qasim & Mubashir.

Today, some of the shots of Wasim jnr were pure class. Guy has some batting potential. He can be our pace bowling A/R. PCB should groom him for this role, instead of wasting him at No.10.

Imam, Rizwan & Saud are not modern ODI batters. If Babar don't improve his SR upto 100, bin him too. If Kohli & Rohit can up their SR at fag end of their carrers, why can't Babar?
 
Man i hate this waiting for another 4 years for the world cup thing.

And it feels soo hellish when a pathetic team is selected to play in a world cup that you know wont be able to do anything.

Atleast PSL happens every year.
 
No need to overreact, just need to prepare for the future. We should just be focused on the 2027 ODI WC - although I do think there’s a solid chance we do not have another ODI WC again.

South African pitches in recent times have been flat and spinners have gotten absolutely hammered. I imagine the only ones who can be really successful are the ones who are very deceptive in changing their pace up and have very subtle variations.

Last time we toured them in an ODI series, Babar Azam and Fakhar Zaman were by far our best batsmen so they will walk into the team. The only question is if Fakhar Zaman will be too old to be in the squad at that point.

The other obvious point is that we need to load manage to ensure our top bowlers are not getting injured at the most important time - right before tournaments.

I hope to see Shaheen Shah and Naseem Shah opening the bowling. Hopefully Mohammad Wasim Jr can improve his batting and play as a decent fast bowling all rounder for us. Rauf will have to improve some skills if he wants to make it to the squad buts he adds another dimension.

Most importantly, it’s time to now to have very different teams for T20/ODI/Test. Our teams across formats look too similar. Rauf for example is just fine in T20 but that doesn’t mean he will be successful in ODI or Test cricket.
 
Pakistan need to start planning for 2027 now. The ODI world cup is the most important ICC trophy and we need to prepare accordingly to give us the best chance possible to win

One issue is if I am not mistaken, we do not play a lot of ODIs in the next couple of years, however from now PCB should have a pool of 25 i would even say 30 players in mind. PCB should try to get some more ODIs series if possible

As time passes the pool of players can change but ideally should keep it minimum, the selection of these players should be selected on merit and who play the game in a modern standard.

The idea of the pool of players is to rotate and give everyone more or less a chance to get some games in. The players need to be backed even if they fail, and ideally for series really test out the bench and new players let them learn even if it means losing matches. Bi lateral series is where you can test your bench strenght and experiment with team combinations and tactics.

Once you found what works for you, you nedd to break your pool down as each year pass. Select your 15 man squad based on the conditions you will be playing in (south africa 2027) and select players who will have a role and clarity one what they need to do to successed.

Make sure you have players for each position and not just shuffle your batting order to fit certains players, i think Saud is a good player but he was not a number 5 imo, he is more suited for number 3 or 4. Basically play the players at the position they should be playing it.

If PCB takes these steps they can have a successful tourney in 2027, they can even end up having a bad tourney, but atleast their was prepartion and care. Rather than what we saw in 2023 world cup, where their was no preparation.
 
The WC is in South Africa.

They also have a Champions Trophy at home but that's not as big of a tournament and can be used more as a testing ground.

For SA, they will need a good bowling attack and players that can play off the back foot. It's also essential to bring big hitters or you will get badly outscored in those conditions if the wicket is flat.

One of the positives is that spin won't be as important in those conditions. They will need one good one and that's about it. The rest can be managed with all-rounders.

However, it's essential to rework the batting lineup. Accumulators are going to lead to a quick exit. They need to choose 2-3 guys and begin grooming them to play attacking cricket starting from the next ODI series. There has to be a mindset change including likely a captaincy change too.

It's time to begin incorporating names like Saim Ayub, Tayyab Tahir, Abrar Ahmed, and Mohammad Haris to see how they do. Give them a proper run.

Imam, Usama Mir, Iftikhar, Agha Salman, and Nawaz should never play another ODI ever again.
 
The only players from the 2023 WC squad who I see playing white ball in 4 years time are Abdullah Shafique, Babar Azam, M Rizwan, Agha Salman, Shaheen Afridi & M Wasim.

Now a clever guy would drop the others guys immediately and build a squad around these 6 players. But guess what, we aren't clever. The Imams, the Hasan Alis, the Iftimanias , the Shadabs of this world shall continue to find a place
 
The CEC agreed to introduce a stop clock on a trial basis in men’s ODI and T20I cricket from December 2023 to April 2024. The clock will be used to regulate the amount of time taken between overs. If the bowling team is not ready to bowl the next over within 60 seconds of the previous over being completed, a 5-run penalty will be imposed the third time it happens in an innings.

Changes to the pitch and outfield monitoring regulations were also approved, including a simplification of the criteria against which a pitch is assessed and increasing the threshold for when a venue could have its international status removed from five demerit points to six demerit points over a five-year period.
 

India want ICC to change the format for the 2027 World Cup​


The ICC are under pressure from India to change the format of the 2027 World Cup following the huge viewing figures Rohit Sharma’s side have attracted for this tournament, with over 100million people watching yesterday’s final defeat to Australia.

The world governing body committed to expanding the World Cup from 10 to 14 teams two years ago, but are facing calls to reconsider due to the financial firepower of Indian broadcasters.

Disney Star are paying ICC £2.4billion for exclusive TV rights to their events for the next four years, a huge increase on the previous deal which was worth £1.9bn over eight years.

The domestic Indian deal is all the more extraordinary as it only includes four relatively short tournaments - two T20 World Cups, the 2025 Champions Trophy and the 2027 World Cup in South Africa.

India’s World Cup matches attracted record viewing figures, with Disney Star getting peak audiences of over 50m for all of their games. In addition a record 59m watched yesterday’s final defeat to Australia on their streaming service Disney Hotstar taking the overall audience over 100m.

In another significant development Disney are in the process of selling Star to Indian media giants Reliance Industries, who own the Mumbai Indians, which will bring the broadcaster’s even closer to the country’s cricketing establishment.

Disney Star agreed their four-year contract with ICC last year 12 months after the 2027 World Cup format had been announced, but want the tournament to feature more guaranteed India games. While the new format of two seven-team groups followed by a Super Six stage leading to semi-finals will have more matches overall it throws up the possibility of India being eliminated early on.

India last suffered the embarrassment of being knocked out at the group stage of the 2007 World Cup in the West Indies, which was a financial disaster for the ICC.

Retaining the 10-team format with group games each for 2027 would also guarantee an India v Pakistan clash in the group stage, the biggest fixture in world cricket made even more lucrative by the scarcity value caused by the fact that they do not play each other in bilateral series.

The ICC are ultimately in control of the World Cup format, but are hugely influenced by India, whose broadcasters provide around 80 per cent of their revenue.

The importance of the India TV deal is starkly illustrated by the fact that the ICC’s second biggest TV contract is worth less than five per cent pro rata of the £2.4bn being by Disney Star, with Sky Sports paying £209m over eight years for UK TV rights.

India’s influence on the ICC cannot be overstated as was shown by the controversial change of wicket for last week’s semi-final against New Zealand in Mumbai, which was revealed by Mail Sport.

The ICC insist that the 2027 World Cup format will not change as Disney Star bought the rights to a 14-team competition, although leading figures within the game have told Mail Sport that it remains a live issue that will be discussed in detail next year.

 
I think this 10 team round-robin format is a pretty good but if you want to grow the game and produce quality cricketers then you should add more teams ti play longer formats as well. In this World Cup, we didn't have West Indies and Ireland who can beat any team on a given day and Zimbabwe will be there too as one of the hosts so we are going to see good competition with 14 teams as well.
 
Some one posted in one thread that Pakistan has won only 3-4 ODI against Eng in the last 10 years. I thought it's a made up number because Eng wasn't really that strong for entire 10 years.

I checked the stats and it's true. I checked against other teams and it seems Pakistan last 10 years has been pretty bad against stronger teams except SA.

Against Eng , won 4 out of 20 games
Against Ind, won 2 out of 10 games
Against Aus, won 3 out of 19 games
Agaisnt NZ , won 10 out of 27 games

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Against Eng/Ind/Aus/NZ , Won 19 games out of 76 games in the last 10 years. In another words, Pakistan won 1 out of 4 games when playing these teams in the last 10 years.

Even against BD, won 4 out of 8 games in the last 10 years.

Pakistan has done better against SA by winning 9 out of 15 games. I think next WC may be a better venue for Pakistan seeing how Pakistan has done in the last 10 years. If pitches are not very high scoring or turning then it may work well with Pakistan's resources. It may be the best chance to qualify for semi final. Pakistani bowlers tends to do better in SA.

Some one may make a point that SA has been doing poorly in the last 10 years, but that's not true. SA has higher than 1 W/L ratio against everyone except India and Pakistan in the last 10 years.

All evidence suggest that Pakistan should do better in the next WC. If I am not wrong the format is also not like this WC where everyone plays everyone. That may help as well.



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I expect Pakistan to do better in 2027 WC because South African pitches should suit Pakistani pacers.

Shaheen should have a good time.
 
A good option to have for the sf and final would be - have 2 innings of 25 overs each to take toss, conditions dew pitch etc out of the equation . Tendulkar had suggested this for all odi games but that's impractical. They should have just for the ko games. So if its in eng and a day game - 1 team doesn't face all 50 overs up front - team 1 plays 25 overs, team 2 has 25 overs, again team 1 has 25 over, team 2 has final 25 overs.. that way no team gets an advantage with toss pitch dew etc. If it's in SC- then dew doesn't hamper just one team. Wont be practical in league stages and you dont want it but a good option for ko games.

. And have just 1 bowl from both ends ..
 
One thing they must do is to play more ODIs against top quality sides before the World Cup. Also, all players shouldn't be wasting their energy in the T20 leagues before the World Cup. The work-load of the player should be managed with great care.
 
sweep_shot said:
I expect Pakistan to do better in 2027 WC because South African pitches should suit Pakistani pacers.

Shaheen should have a good time.
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Pakistani batsman are not so great on pace and bouncy pitches . They have to learn how to play short pitch bowling first then they can even dream for Performing well.
 
Pakistan is not playing enough ODIs anyways. They really need to play more ODIs and that too against top quality side. B-grade and unnecessary leagues should not be allowed for our top batters and bowlers.
 
If the board and chairman keeps changing , and people who have no relation with cricket get high posts , what you expect from cricket team?

We may give hundreds of points , but this is all futile. Pakistan cricket is regressing fast , and I do not think the board officials are interested in doing anything at all. After every tournament just sacking is done and rest is forgotten. Its a finished case now. The damage has been done.
 
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