What has made Hasan Ali so successful and different from all the other bowlers?

[Savak]

So many bowlers have come and gone in the last 10 years i.e. Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Rahat Ali.

Hassan Ali is not naturally gifted like Asif but based on many articles, reports and anecdotes, he literally lives and breathes cricket just like Kohli and has a huge passion to learn, improve and he apparently takes his training and diet very seriously as well.

There must be a reason why Waqar is going out of his way to highlight how much he reminds me of him because he must have seen something in him to get the impression that this kid is going to go a long way for sure.

If there is anything Hassan Ali should learn, i hope he manages his workload and does not make the folly of playing each and every Test match, ODI, T-20 or every T-20 league out there and burn himself out like Waqar did from 1989 to 1998

 

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Bit of Luck and some hardwork
as he doesn't look that much dangerous but still picks up wickets in almost every matches

 

[Deewana Mastana]

The hunger to learn and improve and not think that he is the best in the world.

 

[Mamoon]

It is a combination of having skill, relentless attitude and the natural gift of taking wickets. He is the most complete bowler we have at the moment; he can swing, seam, bowl yorkers, bouncers and slower ones. In addition, he has a fantastic attitude and is always looking to take wickets. He always makes the batsmen play and forces them to commit mistakes.

Furthermore, he reads the batsmen very well and never seems to bowl without a purpose, throwing random deliveries which a lot of our other bowlers do. The knack of taking wickets can be highlighted by the fact that he often gets wickets on ordinary deliveries unlike the others.

So others have a lot of catching up to do in terms of skill, attitude, fitness and natural talent. No other bowler of ours ticks more boxes than him. Some are lacking in skill and talent, some are lacking in attitude, some in fitness etc., while some are lacking everything.

 

[ExpressPacer]

So many bowlers have come and gone in the last 10 years i.e. Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz, Rahat Ali.

Hassan Ali is not naturally gifted like Asif but based on many articles, reports and anecdotes, he literally lives and breathes cricket just like Kohli and has a huge passion to learn, improve and he apparently takes his training and diet very seriously as well.

There must be a reason why Waqar is going out of his way to highlight how much he reminds me of him because he must have seen something in him to get the impression that this kid is going to go a long way for sure.

If there is anything Hassan Ali should learn, i hope he manages his workload and does not make the folly of playing each and every Test match, ODI, T-20 or every T-20 league out there and burn himself out like Waqar did from 1989 to 1998

Hasan Ali is a brilliant bowler but lets not forget, he's only played a year of international cricket and Junaid Khan too was very good early on. Fast bowlers tend to have injuries and then, fade away. Its been the case with too many fast bowlers - De Lange, Cummins, Pattinson and now Milne seems to be headed the same way.

 

[Savak]

It is a combination of having skill, relentless attitude and the natural gift of taking wickets. He is the most complete bowler we have at the moment; he can swing, seam, bowl yorkers, bouncers and slower ones. In addition, he has a fantastic attitude and is always looking to take wickets. He always makes the batsmen play and forces them to commit mistakes.

Furthermore, he reads the batsmen very well and never seems to bowl without a purpose, throwing random deliveries which a lot of our other bowlers do. The knack of taking wickets can be highlighted by the fact that he often gets wickets on ordinary deliveries unlike the others.

So others have a lot of catching up to do in terms of skill, attitude, fitness and natural talent. No other bowler of ours ticks more boxes than him. Some are lacking in skill and talent, some are lacking in attitude, some in fitness etc., while some are lacking everything.

If he keeps this up, he is going to steal all the hype from Amir for sure. I just hope the team management looks after his workload and resist the temptation of playing him in each and every match out there.

 

[Savak]

Hasan Ali is a brilliant bowler but lets not forget, he's only played a year of international cricket and Junaid Khan too was very good early on. Fast bowlers tend to have injuries and then, fade away. Its been the case with too many fast bowlers - De Lange, Cummins, Pattinson and now Milne seems to be headed the same way.

This is why i hope the team management has the sense to take care of his workload and not make him play each and every ODI, T-20, Test match and T-20 leagues out there. Needs to be given rest and time to recuperate to cope with the modern workloads of Cricket.

 

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Can anyone post the stats to survey whether he is threat for Right handers or Left handers or Both ? ? ?

 

[Mamoon]

If he keeps this up, he is going to steal all the hype from Amir for sure. I just hope the team management looks after his workload and resist the temptation of playing him in each and every match out there.

He has already stolen Amir's thunder. He is talented as Amir if not more, but his attitude is at a different level.

 

[ExpressPacer]

This is why i hope the team management has the sense to take care of his workload and not make him play each and every ODI, T-20, Test match and T-20 leagues out there. Needs to be given rest and time to recuperate to cope with the modern workloads of Cricket.

Exactly. For now, I think he needs to be dropped, or as other would call it - 'rested' from the Test XI. Especially from Tests being played in the UAE which take a HUGE toll on a fast bowlers, brittle body. Because of financial gains and the experience of playing amongst some of world crickets biggest names and around the world on different pitches, I wouldn't stop him from playing Twenty20 leagues, but yes, there is absolutely no need for him to be playing every single ODI and every single T20i that we play.

With bench strength that boasts of talented bowlers like Usman Khan, Rumman Raees and Junaid, I feel we need to adopt a rotation policy. Not only does this secure fitness but also gives other talented bowlers to polish their skills.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

It is a combination of having skill, relentless attitude and the natural gift of taking wickets. He is the most complete bowler we have at the moment; he can swing, seam, bowl yorkers, bouncers and slower ones. In addition, he has a fantastic attitude and is always looking to take wickets. He always makes the batsmen play and forces them to commit mistakes.

Furthermore, he reads the batsmen very well and never seems to bowl without a purpose, throwing random deliveries which a lot of our other bowlers do. The knack of taking wickets can be highlighted by the fact that he often gets wickets on ordinary deliveries unlike the others.

So others have a lot of catching up to do in terms of skill, attitude, fitness and natural talent. No other bowler of ours ticks more boxes than him. Some are lacking in skill and talent, some are lacking in attitude, some in fitness etc., while some are lacking everything.

Brilliant post!

I wholeheartedly agree with this. He is by far the most skilled bowler we have.

What is your take on Usman Shinwari? I feel like he's a good bowler but doesn't have the attributes of out thinking a batsman? As you have said, just comes in and balls.

 

[asadee]

Bit of Luck and some hardwork
as he doesn't look that much dangerous but still picks up wickets in almost every matches

Luck doesnt last for a year

 

[Mamoon]

Hasan Ali is a brilliant bowler but lets not forget, he's only played a year of international cricket and Junaid Khan too was very good early on. Fast bowlers tend to have injuries and then, fade away. Its been the case with too many fast bowlers - De Lange, Cummins, Pattinson and now Milne seems to be headed the same way.

There are no similarities between him and Junaid. He is a better bowler in every aspect compared to Junaid of 2012-2013.

Junaid had one fluke spell in India but apart from that, he didn't show the ability to run through lineups consistently like Hasan does. Apart from Starc, no bowler has made a such a huge impact in LOIs in a short time.

Yes injuries can ruin his career but injuries can happen to any player. He works hard on his fitness unlike Junaid who had chicken legs and the physique of a malnourished 12 year old. No wonder his knees gave up. Hasan has been a godsend for Pakistan cricket. The best thing to happen to Pakistan cricket in a long, long time.

 

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Luck doesnt last for a year

Then only he starts working even harder
His hunger for wickets reminds me of Dale steyn

 

[Mamoon]

Brilliant post!

I wholeheartedly agree with this. He is by far the most skilled bowler we have.

What is your take on Usman Shinwari? I feel like he's a good bowler but doesn't have the attributes of out thinking a batsman? As you have said, just comes in and balls.

Shinwari is impressive. His fitness is good and he has the ability to run through a lineup when the conditions suit him. However, he hasn't been tested against a quality batting lineup yet, but yes he doesn't seem to be a thinking bowler so far. He is probably an upgraded version of Junaid, but I don't think he has world class potential like Hasan.

Rumman is a smart bowler but not a complete one like Hasan. Amir can match him but his sense of entitlement and poor attitude will prevent him from becoming a consistent performer like Hasan.

The less said about Junaid and Wahab the better. Both need to be shown the door as soon as possible.

 

[Savak]

Shinwari is impressive. His fitness is good and he has the ability to run through a lineup when the conditions suit him. However, he hasn't been tested against a quality batting lineup yet, but yes he doesn't seem to be a thinking bowler so far. He is probably an upgraded version of Junaid, but I don't think he has world class potential like Hasan.

Rumman is a smart bowler but not a complete one like Hasan. Amir can match him but his sense of entitlement and poor attitude will prevent him from becoming a consistent performer like Hasan.

The less said about Junaid and Wahab the better. Both need to be shown the door as soon as possible.

Shinwari appears to have the gift of massively swinging the ball into the left hander, if he can develop an inswinger that will make him more lethal and ofcourse solid control as well.

He has bulked up and become much more muscular with respect to his shoulders, biceps, back which may not be a bad thing because he came back from a severe stress fracture in his back and was probably advised to beef up his back muscles to allow the back to cope with his bowling action.

 

[ExpressPacer]

There are no similarities between him and Junaid. He is a better bowler in every aspect compared to Junaid of 2012-2013.

Junaid had one fluke spell in India but apart from that, he didn't show the ability to run through lineups consistently like Hasan does. Apart from Starc, no bowler has made a such a huge impact in LOIs in a short time.

Yes injuries can ruin his career but injuries can happen to any player. He works hard on his fitness unlike Junaid who had chicken legs and the physique of a malnourished 12 year old. No wonder his knees gave up. Hasan has been a godsend for Pakistan cricket. The best thing to happen to Pakistan cricket in a long, long time.

Lets take a more statistical approach instead of haywire opinion. In his first 32 ODI games, Junaid Khan had 52 wickets playing mostly on flat wickets and had a brilliant Test record playing on UAE highways. And then all things came tumbling down.

While I do agree that Hasan has been a godsend for Pakistan, injuries have happened to the fittest players so you can't really look too much into that. Whether Junaid had a weak frame or not is another debate but the point is, he had very good stats in the beginning of his career as well.

 

[ads101]

Quick arm action so difficult to read. Bowls aggressive lines thus gets more wickets (but is potentially hit for more runs). Good Control. And has a very good bouncer.

 

[Mamoon]

Lets take a more statistical approach instead of haywire opinion. In his first 32 ODI games, Junaid Khan had 52 wickets playing mostly on flat wickets and had a brilliant Test record playing on UAE highways. And then all things came tumbling down.

While I do agree that Hasan has been a godsend for Pakistan, injuries have happened to the fittest players so you can't really look too much into that. Whether Junaid had a weak frame or not is another debate but the point is, he had very good stats in the beginning of his career as well.

Stats don't show the full picture. Junaid had a great average before his injury, but that average was maintained by picking 1-2 wickets at a decent economy rate. Those are good figures for a support bowler, but you need more from your strike bowler who is bowling with the new ball.

The fact that Junaid doesn't have a single 5 wicket haul even during his so-called peak is not a coincidence. He simply lacked the skill to trouble the batsmen. Couldn't swing the ball an inch.

He was good in UAE Tests when the ball started to reverse. Apart from reverse swing, he was innocuous. In both formats, he was never as good as his stats suggested. There were glaring weaknesses in his bowling that people ignored due to his stats, but it was a matter of time before he got exposed. The injury was used as pretext for his decline, but his mediocrity had started to catch up with him before that.

He was embarrassing in the 2014 Asia Cup and the 2014 WT20 and he wasn't injured then. At no point in his career was he anywhere near Hasan's level in terms of performance and impact.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Shinwari appears to have the gift of massively swinging the ball into the left hander, if he can develop an inswinger that will make him more lethal and ofcourse solid control as well.

He has bulked up and become much more muscular with respect to his shoulders, biceps, back which may not be a bad thing because he came back from a severe stress fracture in his back and was probably advised to beef up his back muscles to allow the back to cope with his bowling action.

Usman, in my humble opinion, is the most naturally gifted fast bowler we have had in years, maybe since Amir. And I would go as far as saying that he is more determined, fitter and hardworking than Amir at this point in time.

His fitness is right up there and he's already consistently bowling at around 140. I'm sure he can take this up to 145 KPH and if he spends more time with Amir and Azhar Mahmood, he has it in him to become the best bowler in this XI.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Stats don't show the full picture. Junaid had a great average before his injury, but that average was maintained by picking 1-2 wickets at a decent economy rate. Those are good figures for a support bowler, but you need more from your strike bowler who is bowling with the new ball.

The fact that Junaid doesn't have a single 5 wicket haul even during his so-called peak is not a coincidence. He simply lacked the skill to trouble the batsmen. Couldn't swing the ball an inch.

He was good in UAE Tests when the ball started to reverse. Apart from reverse swing, he was innocuous. In both formats, he was never as good as his stats suggested. There were glaring weaknesses in his bowling that people ignored due to his stats, but it was a matter of time before he got exposed. The injury was used as pretext for his decline, but his mediocrity had started to catch up with him before that.

He was embarrassing in the 2014 Asia Cup and the 2014 WT20 and he wasn't injured then. At no point in his career was he anywhere near Hasan's level in terms of performance and impact.

Of course, Hasan has always been head and shoulders above him and I seriously hope he can keep at it. Just needs to avoid injuries. And the management also needs to take better care of him, playing day in and day out in the UAE Tests also had a lot to do with Junaid getting injured, apart from his frame made of glass.

 

[sshakir411]

Apart from his skill and perseverance, Sarfraz's field settings has had an impact on Hasan's rise. He really does put the choke hold on the opposition in the middle overs. The emergence of Shadab has also helped him because there really aren't any free opportunities to score. And not to forget all the work Hasan has put in to his fitness. He really is the complete package.

 

[Savak]

Apart from his skill and perseverance, Sarfraz's field settings has had an impact on Hasan's rise. He really does put the choke hold on the opposition in the middle overs. The emergence of Shadab has also helped him because there really aren't any free opportunities to score. And not to forget all the work Hasan has put in to his fitness. He really is the complete package.

Hafeez's 10 guaranteed economical overs with a bonus wicket or two has also helped the other bowlers. Our bowling attack looks thorough and complete in most respects, it is almost like back to the days of a pre 15 degree Ajmal and Hafeez where we would be confident of defending even below par totals easily.

 

[waleed88]

Stats don't show the full picture. Junaid had a great average before his injury, but that average was maintained by picking 1-2 wickets at a decent economy rate. Those are good figures for a support bowler, but you need more from your strike bowler who is bowling with the new ball.

The fact that Junaid doesn't have a single 5 wicket haul even during his so-called peak is not a coincidence. He simply lacked the skill to trouble the batsmen. Couldn't swing the ball an inch.

He was good in UAE Tests when the ball started to reverse. Apart from reverse swing, he was innocuous. In both formats, he was never as good as his stats suggested. There were glaring weaknesses in his bowling that people ignored due to his stats, but it was a matter of time before he got exposed. The injury was used as pretext for his decline, but his mediocrity had started to catch up with him before that.

He was embarrassing in the 2014 Asia Cup and the 2014 WT20 and he wasn't injured then. At no point in his career was he anywhere near Hasan's level in terms of performance and impact.

Yes yes, he was not a big tournament performer. We have heard that before

 

[ManFan]

He is always grateful but never satisfied. He wants to not only beat the opposition but humiliate them. Been a while since we saw this kind of a player for Pakistan.

 

[waleed88]

Junaid could've had a 4'fer vs Srilanka in the Champions Trophy had Fahim Ashraf not dropped a catch off his bowling in the death overs and then Hasan ended up picking up his wicket. It was MOM performance from Junaid but ofcourse Sarfraz topped it off with a down the order chase leading from the front.

 

[Haz95]

He's the Virat Kohli of bowling. His attitude and work ethic is tremendous and he's eager to give it his all, regardless of whether its an ICC final or a meaningless bilateral. With his ethic, he will be hunting for #1 in all formats.

However a fired up Amir is still superior, in my opinion. If only Amir constantly has the eagerness and drive he does when the stakes are high (aka ICC tournaments). The emergence of Shinwari and Raees can change things now as Anwar Ali and Wahab are no longer his competition.