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The title says it all.

Arguably the most successful side in the history of PSL. On paper they were the favourites to win the whole tournament but got just 3 wins.

More than the results, it's just how different the franchise looks this year. Compared to when Dean was in charge, the players look all over the place.

The worst thing has been the team selection. The best spinner in Pakistan, Zafar Gohar, hardly played. They stacked the team with useless all rounders and left out specialists like Saif Badar. Almost every match was a different combination. It seems like no one knows their role at all. They are just playing for their place.

Most importantly, how does this fare for our international t20 side. Misbah has taken a winning team and destroyed them to the core. We have seen a similar trend in our national side when the moment he took charge, he randomly selected Umar and Shahzad and we were whitewashed by Sri Lanka D. He then took the likes of a barely fit Irfan and Qadir to Australia. He selected Ahsan out of the blue and dropped him. No one seems to have any clear role in the team.

Surely this should signal warning bells to the PCB.
 
We are going nowhere under Misbah in LO.

No trust in youth.
Doesn't select the best line up.
He can't develop batters.
No innovative selections.

Don't see us progressing under Misbah in LO.
 
But he's done MBA, is the best thinking brain in Pakistan and has saved Pakistan's sinking ship after 2010 fiasco.
 
Misbah was involved in the process of removing Mickey, said he was not interested in applying for the coaching position and then applied anyway.

Let year, when Islu offered him to become part of their coaching staff, he stabbed them in the back last second and made a deal with PZ to carry on as a player despite being way past it.

And then this season, he arranged with the Islu owners before the tournament to unceremoniously remove Deano and take his role.
 
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Absurd post. Zafar has been part of IU for a few seasons, can you tell me how many games did he play in those ? Also if you listen to hasan cheemas podcast you'll know that the abundance of allrlubder and fully flexible line up had always been their brand . People had been clamouring for ammads inclusion into the national team. Here he got chances and he's clearly not good enough. But the makn issue this year was raees and faheems bowling form. Also the openers gave decent starts but didn't carry through .
 
There is a reason why I call this guy a shameless clown. This guy need to be kicked asap. Rubbish player, coach but even more a pathetic humam being. A true losser.
 
Misbah was involved in the process of removing Mickey, said he was not interested in applying for the coaching position and then applied anyway.

Let year, when Islu offered him to become part of their coaching staff, he stabbed them in the back last second and made a deal with PZ to carry on as a player despite being way past it.

And then this season, he arranged with the Islu owners before the tournament to unceremoniously remove Deano and take his role.

Agree with every word. A classless human being.
 
Absurd post. Zafar has been part of IU for a few seasons, can you tell me how many games did he play in those ? Also if you listen to hasan cheemas podcast you'll know that the abundance of allrlubder and fully flexible line up had always been their brand . People had been clamouring for ammads inclusion into the national team. Here he got chances and he's clearly not good enough. But the makn issue this year was raees and faheems bowling form. Also the openers gave decent starts but didn't carry through .

Yes because multiple wrongs make a right. Zafar hasn't been selected before and that was a mistake. But at least previously they had the services of Samit Patel.

It doesn't justify Misbah not selecting him this season. Surely Misbah with all his infinite wisdom and MBA could have seen Amad was 'trash'. Or created an environment where there was some consistency in selection to allow players to build confidence. No one had any clear roles.
 
There is a reason why I call this guy a shameless clown. This guy need to be kicked asap. Rubbish player, coach but even more a pathetic humam being. A true losser.


Completely agree. I had some respect for Misbah the captain for pulling us out of the 2010 fiasco. But the way he hung around as a player and then has been desperately chasing these coaching roles, shows a deeply insecure and bitter individual who thinks a lot higher of himself than anyone.

Dangerous man to have as the selector and coach of a national team.
 
Completely agree. I had some respect for Misbah the captain for pulling us out of the 2010 fiasco. But the way he hung around as a player and then has been desperately chasing these coaching roles, shows a deeply insecure and bitter individual who thinks a lot higher of himself than anyone.

Dangerous man to have as the selector and coach of a national team.

The guy is junk and should be binned with immediate effect. Loser and I keep repeating a backstabber. This clown alone will ruin our cricket once again.
 
Some of the PP member have lost their marbles after we defeated Bangladesh and Sri Lanka while completely ignoring the humiliation we received artist Australia.
 
Well, we have two T20 World Cups in the next two years, so it would be nice to compete in those and do well.

Besides that, sure, it doesn't matter.


Exactly. There are lessons here to be learned.

I don't think Misbah will be removed anytime soon, but Wasim Khan and the cricket committee should take some steps to at least question him regularly so that he is making somewhat logical decisions.

He cannot be allowed to continue as an arbitrary dictator to quote [MENTION=143937]ManFan[/MENTION]
 
Let's not forget this junk cricket brain was criticising Amir In the world cup and questioning shaheen selection who was our best bowler. Truly the best cricketing mind in Pakistan.
 
Let's not forget this junk cricket brain was criticising Amir In the world cup and questioning shaheen selection who was our best bowler. Truly the best cricketing mind in Pakistan.

Also benched Abbas in tests, only to have that blow up in his face weeks later.

We'll have a batting of Asif Ali, Ifti chacha, Shehzad, Akmal's and Hafeez to look forward to in WC T20
 
Let's not forget this junk cricket brain was criticising Amir In the world cup and questioning shaheen selection who was our best bowler. Truly the best cricketing mind in Pakistan.

Only in Pakistan this useless loser will get so much importance. In India a loser like him won't have played past high school level. Here he not only managed to captain a side for years taking us to the worst rankings in all formats, but now is a captain and coach as well. Also who can forget his recommendation of acha bacha Azhar successfully taking us to number 9 in the rankings.
 
The biggest issue I have is with the decision making.

They played 6.5 bowlers today: Musa, Rumman, Faheem, Akif, Zafar, Shadab, and Talat.

Faheem batted at #7 and made 12* off 14 batting at the death and then bowled 1 over for 7 runs.

Wouldn't it have been better to play a batsman, considering that they had to cover for the simultaneous loss of Ronchi and Munro? Instead, their batting lineup was a very flaky one consisting of Rizwan, Salt, Talat, Shadab, Ingram, Asif, Faheem.
 
The PCB learnt nothing from Misbah ul Haq's career and presence in the Pakistani team from 2007 to 2017, they are not going to learn anything now. Perhaps they are helpless given Misbah's powerful sifarish
 
The PCB learnt nothing from Misbah ul Haq's career and presence in the Pakistani team from 2007 to 2017, they are not going to learn anything now. Perhaps they are helpless given Misbah's powerful sifarish

What sifarish? The guy's here on merit
 
PCB can learn that Misbah will be plotting 130-140 totals batting first in WC T20 and believing that his bowlers will be able to defend it.
 
Pcb is not going to learn anything..

For the sake of pakistan i might be wrong..

But until misbah is with pakistan team as a coach selector or at any position near the team embarrassment is our destiny...!!
 
Misbah is an atrocious coach. We have seen enough already. He is tactically poor, cannot motivate the players and is an all-round poor presence.

Our UK imports would not sack him to protect themselves but if they have any sense and the best interests of Pakistan cricket at heart, they should act promptly and take Misbah out of his misery.

Pakistan have a golden opportunity to rope in Andy Flower who is one of the best in the world with a proven track record. He is available and will not say no to the Pakistan job at this point.

Give him the ‘super coach’ (coach + selector) role and he will do a far, far better job than Misbah. He is simply better than Misbah at everything.

Pakistan is a mediocre side and Andy Flower will not turn us into world beaters, but with Misbah at the helm, Pakistan will underperform relative to its potential and continue to slide to the deepest pits of mediocrity.

When a smart investor makes a bad investment, he looks to cut his losses quickly. He doesn’t wait till he goes bankrupt and loses everything. That is what PCB is doing by persisting with Misbah.
 
Misbah is an atrocious coach. We have seen enough already. He is tactically poor, cannot motivate the players and is an all-round poor presence.

Our UK imports would not sack him to protect themselves but if they have any sense and the best interests of Pakistan cricket at heart, they should act promptly and take Misbah out of his misery.

Pakistan have a golden opportunity to rope in Andy Flower who is one of the best in the world with a proven track record. He is available and will not say no to the Pakistan job at this point.

Give him the ‘super coach’ (coach + selector) role and he will do a far, far better job than Misbah. He is simply better than Misbah at everything.

Pakistan is a mediocre side and Andy Flower will not turn us into world beaters, but with Misbah at the helm, Pakistan will underperform relative to its potential and continue to slide to the deepest pits of mediocrity.

When a smart investor makes a bad investment, he looks to cut his losses quickly. He doesn’t wait till he goes bankrupt and loses everything. That is what PCB is doing by persisting with Misbah.

Really? What makes you say Flower would take the Pakistan role.

He’s one of the best coaches in the world and will easily get t20 league roles. While not quite the same as international, they pay well and allow him to go home regularly. If PCB can convince him to take on the head coach role then it’s a huge coup.
 
Misbah was given a 3 years contract by top PCB management, I doubt his performance as a coach in PSL would change their minds much.

Even if we see in previous years KK was struggling quite a lot and Mickey was their head coach, that didnt effect his role as national coach so its unrealistic to expect PCB will do anything based upon that.

I think fans need to accept Misbah is the coach and PCB will need a big reason to compensate Misbah a hefty amount if they want to change him before his tenure.
 
I think the only thing to learn is this.

We need to sack Misbah. Get rid of him. Exterminate him. Eradicate him. Remove him. Sack him.
 
Really? What makes you say Flower would take the Pakistan role.

He’s one of the best coaches in the world and will easily get t20 league roles. While not quite the same as international, they pay well and allow him to go home regularly. If PCB can convince him to take on the head coach role then it’s a huge coup.

The dual role of coach/selector is highly attractive, and I believe that many coaches including Flower would love to have a crack at it.

The common excuse that PCB appointed Misbah because he was the best of the available candidates doesn’t sit well with me.

I believe that a lot of coaches didn’t apply at the time because the whole process was a farce. There were strong rumors of Misbah getting the job even before Arthur was sacked and PCB made the fake job advertisement.

The whole selection process was a joke and reeked of unprofessionalism.

Misbah basically got the job on a silver platter and PCB staged the process to make it look credible. Unfortunately, most people are not fools.
 
Misbah was given a 3 years contract by top PCB management, I doubt his performance as a coach in PSL would change their minds much.

Even if we see in previous years KK was struggling quite a lot and Mickey was their head coach, that didnt effect his role as national coach so its unrealistic to expect PCB will do anything based upon that.

I think fans need to accept Misbah is the coach and PCB will need a big reason to compensate Misbah a hefty amount if they want to change him before his tenure.

Why should we accept Misbah when its pretty obvious that we're only going down with him at the helm? Misbah's had his time and we're all grateful for that but enough is enough.
 
He didn’t meet the criteria set by the PCB is the advertisement for coach.

The wording of the job description was a joke. It was clearly designed to justify Misbah’s appointment even though he had zero experience as coach or selector.
 
The dual role of coach/selector is highly attractive, and I believe that many coaches including Flower would love to have a crack at it.

The common excuse that PCB appointed Misbah because he was the best of the available candidates doesn’t sit well with me.

I believe that a lot of coaches didn’t apply at the time because the whole process was a farce. There were strong rumors of Misbah getting the job even before Arthur was sacked and PCB made the fake job advertisement.

The whole selection process was a joke and reeked of unprofessionalism.

Misbah basically got the job on a silver platter and PCB staged the process to make it look credible. Unfortunately, most people are not fools.

True. Very early on in the process, strong rumours were flying around that Misbah is to become the coach and selector. Misbah then came out and said he had no intention to apply and the rumours were false.

But I can see how no self respecting coach would put themselves through the process knowing that Misbah has basically secured the job already.

Still, I think the biggest thing standing in the way of Flower’s appointment would be having to spend considerable time in Pakistan. Coming for a few weeks is very different to spending 3-6 months in the country. And we’ve started to play a lot more at home.
 
Pakistan have a golden opportunity to rope in Andy Flower who is one of the best in the world with a proven track record. He is available and will not say no to the Pakistan job at this point.

Andy Flower is one of the best cricketing minds in the modern era from being a head coach to being the technical director.

I am not sure if PCB are looking to change the national team management but he can still be a really good option to be head of talent development and academies or anyway he can be involved in Pak cricket.
 
Andy Flower is one of the best cricketing minds in the modern era from being a head coach to being the technical director.

I am not sure if PCB are looking to change the national team management but he can still be a really good option to be head of talent development and academies or anyway he can be involved in Pak cricket.

The appointment of Misbah is the biggest stain on Wasim Khan’s tenure. He can put his hand up and fix it by getting Flower on board.
 
Pakistan T20 team Ranked # 1 in the world, Misbah took over, team got whitewased by SL C team.

IU champion team, Misbah took over, first to be kicked out of finals, at the bottom of the table.

Misbah has been the worst thing happened to Pakistan cricket,
 
Andy Flower is one of the best cricketing minds in the modern era from being a head coach to being the technical director.

I am not sure if PCB are looking to change the national team management but he can still be a really good option to be head of talent development and academies or anyway he can be involved in Pak cricket.

Flower is a legend. A magnificent player and someone who has excelled in every position post retirement. If he played for England or South Africa his stock would have been much higher.
 
The biggest issue I have is with the decision making.

They played 6.5 bowlers today: Musa, Rumman, Faheem, Akif, Zafar, Shadab, and Talat.

Faheem batted at #7 and made 12* off 14 batting at the death and then bowled 1 over for 7 runs.

Wouldn't it have been better to play a batsman, considering that they had to cover for the simultaneous loss of Ronchi and Munro? Instead, their batting lineup was a very flaky one consisting of Rizwan, Salt, Talat, Shadab, Ingram, Asif, Faheem.

Misbah’s decisions consistently lack any planning or rationale. It’s like he makes decision based on his gut and expects them to pay off.

The contrast with someone like Deano or Flower is so clear. It’s obvious they analyse every move and plan meticulously.

It’s clear today that Islu we’re going to struggle with their batting yet there was no plan whatsoever.
 
Yes, let's sack Misbah because Mickey Mouse was sacked after his showings as KK coach. :))
 
Yes, let's sack Misbah because Mickey Mouse was sacked after his showings as KK coach. :))

Mickey didn’t take a winning squad and destroy them to the point they couldn’t qualify.

He didn’t take a settled national t20 team and immediately recall the likes of Umar Akmal and Shahzad out of nowhere, lose against Sri Lanka D at home and then drop them.

There are patterns with Misbah that cannot be ignored. Anyway Mickey is gone now, because of Misbah. Stop looking back.
 
Misbah :

1) Shrewd politician, suddenly became captain even when not performing
2) Played for himself. Limited capacity as a batsman, more so as captain (been captain for 6 years and yet we got below mediocre results)
3) Never came up the order when our opening slot was broken

Now he did all this to gain what ?? To get a high profile hob with PCB.. And he luckily got this, still this idiot don't understand that he could utilize this golden opportunity (where he is a selector
+ coach , and has his buddies like Waqar), but showing his mediocrity as like his entire career..If he can not achieve anything in this tenure then shame on him..

P.S I am glad Bangladesh tour cancelled otherwise this clown will get easy win against 2nd string Bangladesh side..
 
It's not just Misbah's fault.

You have to look at the owners and their decision making.

Making Shadab captain.
What does Saeed Ajmal bring to IU.
The hangers-on who think they are major cricketing tacticians who have been there from the start and are still there.

It's become a bit of a boys club IU, they need a major overhaul.
 
The thing I've seen over the years with
Misbah is that he sucks the life out of players who have anatural way of play. His presence makes them uncertain and selfish. They are no longer playing for the team they are playing for their place.

We have seen Faheem, Fakhar and Shadab game go down. If Haider is selected to play under him, his natural game will also be destroyed.

Players' mental strength is another issue under him.
 
It's not just Misbah's fault

How long will this cartoon series continue ?

How long will the criticism be diverted towards players?
How long will his biased selection like Iftikhar be overlooked?
Target killing was done against Sarfaraz. PCB mafia removed him 6 months back. Removed arthur 10 months ago. Most of the Misbah fans still target Sarfaraz on his personal life even though he is not even in the team. Still tie current screwups of Misbah xi and Inzamam decisions on Arthur.
 
3 matches were affected by rain.

last match all the foreign players leave.

so how exactly it hsi misbahs fault?
 
I seriously think PCB understand now that they made blunder by selecting Misbha. If somehow karachi King's will this tournaments than you can guarantee that their will be a lot question from Media, and internal PCB as well.

This is the last time Misbha has become a coach. This guy is cancer just like Shoaib Mailk and where he goes he makes grouping, provide unnecessary excuse, lobby, and professional lair.
 
3 matches were affected by rain.

last match all the foreign players leave.

so how exactly it hsi misbahs fault?

Were the matches only affected by rain for Islu? One of the matches were rained off completely meaning they walked away with a point, and the other two had 9 overs. Why does that mean they don't count?

But let's say we randomly ignore those 3. And also ignore the last match even though everyone lost players.

Islu won 3 games out of 6. That is pretty bad for such a strong team. Misbah is absolutely to blame. Shadab was a 20 year old new captain. All the power was with Misbah. His team selections were atrocious and like a headless chicken.
 
He will go before that if Karachi Kings wins this tournament.


I highly doubt that. A lot of underhand tactics were employed to get Misbah on board. It won't be so easy to get rid of him now.

As he has shown while playing for Pakistan and then as a player when he left Islu for PZ because they told him he was finished as a player - that he just does not know when to leave.

So he will cling on to this role with all he has until his tenure is up or things go completely pear shaped for Pakistan.
 
Unfortunately, I have to say, I do agree with the substance of what mamoon is saying here (for a change). I do not share his lack of faith in Wasim Khan’s administration - and indeed, this seems really obtuse to me nowadays considering how well he has done so far. But I agree with most of what he says about Misbah and Andy Flower here. I would love to see Andy FLower as coach, and I think Misbah has done an astonishingly bad job as coach of the side. I now expect him to make ridiculous and shocking decisions on a consistent basis. I think Wasim Khan will sack him after the T20 world cup if he doesn’t improve. I think it is right to wait until then as well, as a professional board, they have to give him enough time to prove himself and find his feet, but you clearly cannot wait forever for this to happen.. Misbah must go after the T20 wc

Misbah is an atrocious coach. We have seen enough already. He is tactically poor, cannot motivate the players and is an all-round poor presence.

Our UK imports would not sack him to protect themselves but if they have any sense and the best interests of Pakistan cricket at heart, they should act promptly and take Misbah out of his misery.

Pakistan have a golden opportunity to rope in Andy Flower who is one of the best in the world with a proven track record. He is available and will not say no to the Pakistan job at this point.

Give him the ‘super coach’ (coach + selector) role and he will do a far, far better job than Misbah. He is simply better than Misbah at everything.

Pakistan is a mediocre side and Andy Flower will not turn us into world beaters, but with Misbah at the helm, Pakistan will underperform relative to its potential and continue to slide to the deepest pits of mediocrity.

When a smart investor makes a bad investment, he looks to cut his losses quickly. He doesn’t wait till he goes bankrupt and loses everything. That is what PCB is doing by persisting with Misbah.
 
I think Misbah's best served time would have been to take the time to assess different players without taking control of a franchise.

As national coach and chief selector, he needs a 10,000 ft view of the tournament before having a closer look, not there out in the dugout for one specific team.
 
And some people wanted this guy running the PCB. He's an absolute disaster.
 
Unfortunately, I have to say, I do agree with the substance of what mamoon is saying here (for a change). I do not share his lack of faith in Wasim Khan’s administration - and indeed, this seems really obtuse to me nowadays considering how well he has done so far. But I agree with most of what he says about Misbah and Andy Flower here. I would love to see Andy FLower as coach, and I think Misbah has done an astonishingly bad job as coach of the side. I now expect him to make ridiculous and shocking decisions on a consistent basis. I think Wasim Khan will sack him after the T20 world cup if he doesn’t improve. I think it is right to wait until then as well, as a professional board, they have to give him enough time to prove himself and find his feet, but you clearly cannot wait forever for this to happen.. Misbah must go after the T20 wc

I don’t see Misbah getting sacked until the conclusion of the WTC.

He was clearly hired to improve Pakistan’s performances in Test cricket, and series defeats to New Zealand and South Africa pretty much sealed Mickey’s fate.

I don’t think even a World Cup semifinal exit would have saved Mickey.

Pakistan will probably get battered in the twin WT20s but it is unlikely to put Misbah’s position in jeopardy.

PCB decided to think out of the box by handing all powers to Misbah who has no experience as a coach or a selector. However, before thinking out of the box, it is important to think within the box.

The reason why I am critical of Wasim and Mani is because this is their only true independent decision and they have goofed up big time.

The restructuring of domestic cricket was the idea of the PM and as far as hosting PSL and Test cricket in Pakistan are concerned, they are capitalizing on the efforts of the previous PCB administration.

Convincing teams to tour Pakistan in 2015, 2016 or 2017 was much harder than it is today, and it was their efforts that have allowed this duo to convince teams to play Test cricket and play the entire PSL in Pakistan.

The appointment of Misbah is enough prove that Wasim Khan is out of depth and lacks the caliber to make good decisions.
 
This shameless loser won't leave even if IU come last in the next three seasons. He has to be booted out just like he was booted out of the T20, ODI and Test sides.


May Allah help our international side this loser will take us to the bottom of the rankings again.
 
I think Misbah's best served time would have been to take the time to assess different players without taking control of a franchise.

As national coach and chief selector, he needs a 10,000 ft view of the tournament before having a closer look, not there out in the dugout for one specific team.

In the same vein, even with the national team, he should have given the players who were already in the team a chance to prove themselves before he rejected them outright. His lack of confidence in Faheem Ashraf; Mohd Abbas and his handling of the Sarfraz issue all suggested a dictatorial attitude that refused to give players a proper chance. Yes, Sarfraz had underperformed and probably was due to be dropped, but he gave him a token chance against Sri Lanka, while refusing to let him play the team he had been winning with for a while. This is one of my many complaints against his tenure
 
3 matches were affected by rain.

last match all the foreign players leave.

so how exactly it hsi misbahs fault?

Plus sugar is Rs. 90/KG. Aata 50. Petrol well over a 100. Less said about electricity the better. How do these so called "fans" expect an individual barely surviving in such economic conditions to always be flawless?

Plus Misbah only came 6th. It's not like he finished 10th... I've seen school kids (who have zero economic stress to worry about) getting 10th position in their class & still showing off as if they've won a medal. Misbah never went that low to begin with. 6th is a fairly good position if one looks at it without any agenda. Not gonna happen with such fickle fans around. Such a shame!

I see only 2 sane people on this site who can look beyond the meaningless win/loss talk & see Quaid for the Messiah that he really is. First one's Hawk Eye & second You. If it wasn't for legends like you two, Pakistan Cricket would be in a terrible state right now. The dream of dominating 96 WC winner Srilanka & the reigning Under 19 WC winners Bangladesh would never have been realized. Kudos to you two. Mad love & respect.
 
misbah did what misbah can do, nothing out of the left field. He will come up with a beaut of an excuse, and same will be the case for pcb. Agar Pak WC ya kuch aur jeeta toh tukkay se ho ga not because of some brilliance of misbah... i have a feeling he will give us a horrible squad for WC with no rhyme or reason, but it will be all on deaf ears...
 
I don’t see Misbah getting sacked until the conclusion of the WTC.

He was clearly hired to improve Pakistan’s performances in Test cricket, and series defeats to New Zealand and South Africa pretty much sealed Mickey’s fate.

I don’t think even a World Cup semifinal exit would have saved Mickey.

Pakistan will probably get battered in the twin WT20s but it is unlikely to put Misbah’s position in jeopardy.

PCB decided to think out of the box by handing all powers to Misbah who has no experience as a coach or a selector. However, before thinking out of the box, it is important to think within the box.

The reason why I am critical of Wasim and Mani is because this is their only true independent decision and they have goofed up big time.

The restructuring of domestic cricket was the idea of the PM and as far as hosting PSL and Test cricket in Pakistan are concerned, they are capitalizing on the efforts of the previous PCB administration.

Convincing teams to tour Pakistan in 2015, 2016 or 2017 was much harder than it is today, and it was their efforts that have allowed this duo to convince teams to play Test cricket and play the entire PSL in Pakistan.

The appointment of Misbah is enough prove that Wasim Khan is out of depth and lacks the caliber to make good decisions.

If some one is well connected then you will find any reason to fit him in.. Misbah was/is fully endorsed by our PM, who thinks he can improve our cricket, and that is why all the tools / buddies are being provided to Misbah and those who could oppose him(Sarfaraz) were kept at bay. Sometimes performances does not reflect otherwise how could Azhar Ali became test captain suddenly after scoring 59 runs in 6 test innings in SA..

I don't think in any history of cricket someone is provided this full power and ownership.. I feel pity for Misbah, even after giving all these powers/control he would come up loosing us important games, and hardly we would see any development of new talent (Shadab was already a decent(ish) batsman before..). He could have developed a good batting order in ISLU ( but relied totally on foreign players). the experiment of providing all the powers is a good move, previously we saw Mickey wanted some players-- Inzi provided some one else, and then blame game continued..

By providing Misbah all the powers, PCB did right. We can argue the choice of individual who does not have capacity, but the idea was correct, whether the players are skill(less) or management is clueless, and so far looks like later is proving to be correct.. Now Misbah should not have any excuses...And if performance does not improve in next 6 months he and his support staff should be sacked immediately.
 
Tip to our ex/domestic players :

The more you criticize Misbah , more gifts he would be showered with. It's actually not Misbah vs you. It is You(all) vs PCB..PCB feels they are getting criticized.. So stop any discussion on Misbah, by this trick he would be gone soon..
 
If PCB doesn;t want Misbah to be jobless, let him be the assistant coach of provincial under 19 team.
 
If PCB doesn;t want Misbah to be jobless, let him be the assistant coach of provincial under 19 team.

The problem with that is : individual has not learned anything, and keep doing the same stuffs.. 6 years for a captain is a very long time, and what we left us with (only Azhar Ali, Yasir and ASad Shafiq). No openers were made.. Keep playing his oldies and TTF (Cheema, Tanvir, Hafeez, Malik, Akmals, Irfan, Imran Khan Jr.) Just remove some Asian test series against SL, Bangladesh, and West Indies (Dubai) and see what he achieved as a captain in 6 years.. Similar would be the case with him being a coach, we would only see victories against Bangladesh, Afg, SL(may be) , WI (in Asia).. that's it..
 
Misbah is an atrocious coach. We have seen enough already. He is tactically poor, cannot motivate the players and is an all-round poor presence.

Our UK imports would not sack him to protect themselves but if they have any sense and the best interests of Pakistan cricket at heart, they should act promptly and take Misbah out of his misery.

Pakistan have a golden opportunity to rope in Andy Flower who is one of the best in the world with a proven track record. He is available and will not say no to the Pakistan job at this point.

Give him the ‘super coach’ (coach + selector) role and he will do a far, far better job than Misbah. He is simply better than Misbah at everything.

Pakistan is a mediocre side and Andy Flower will not turn us into world beaters, but with Misbah at the helm, Pakistan will underperform relative to its potential and continue to slide to the deepest pits of mediocrity.

When a smart investor makes a bad investment, he looks to cut his losses quickly. He doesn’t wait till he goes bankrupt and loses everything. That is what PCB is doing by persisting with Misbah.

100% Agree making Misbah the dictator of Pakistan Cricket is one of the worst decisions PCB has ever made.
 
To be honest, mamoon, many people have already countered the same criticsms you are levelling at Wasim Khan many, many times on pakpassion, so will just ignore them.

I think Misbah will be shown the door if Pakistan don’t make the semis of the T20 wc. I think Wasim Khan realizes that Misbah is struggling and has made statements hinting at a shorter tenure for him than what you expect. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is shown the door after T20 WC, or at least compartmentalized, and given charge only of the test team or something like that.
 
After so many years of watching Pakistan cricket, I think we can all agree that doing the right thing goes against the logic of PCB.

Whereas once upon a time we could get by with the best talent in the 90s, now with the talent pool few and far between, one must be tactical in their approach to team selection and coaching, which of course we continuously fail it.

It is not Misbah's fault they selected him. Give me a high paying job and a position of power with little experience, and full autonomy and I would say sign me up right away. This is as it has always been a systemic issue.

Constantly having to appease people's egos and never focusing on the bottom dollar, which is winning matches and having some respect for the country.

It is always, this person has that persons backing so he must play, or this person has dirt on that person so he must play, or he is buddies with the selector and/or coach, so they must play.

This systemic issue constantly being a point of emphasis will never lead to the best results for Pakistan cricket. Unfortunately we will continue to see this round-about way of leadership for the foreseeable future.

It is honestly just cabal after cabal, and though we are not capable of winning at the big stage, at the very worst we can try to put the best team out there in terms of talent.

We did very well in the World Cup given what talent we have, and in a bizarre move we fire the coach that seemed to actually have a good system in place, that over the years might be able to build from the grass roots level in terms of good discipline and the way to play. Stay away from the Afridi archetype, and have more of the Babar's of fitness and hard work, discipline, and no free handouts.

It is always the same unforunately, and we will constantly have to discuss this over and over again, and make ourselves go crazy. Maybe down the line someone from the top will stop this style of running PCB, but as of now it is as it has always been; a show to appease X or Y person/player, and keeping Pakistan and the fans interest in the backburner.
 
After so many years of watching Pakistan cricket, I think we can all agree that doing the right thing goes against the logic of PCB.

Whereas once upon a time we could get by with the best talent in the 90s, now with the talent pool few and far between, one must be tactical in their approach to team selection and coaching, which of course we continuously fail it.

It is not Misbah's fault they selected him. Give me a high paying job and a position of power with little experience, and full autonomy and I would say sign me up right away. This is as it has always been a systemic issue.

Constantly having to appease people's egos and never focusing on the bottom dollar, which is winning matches and having some respect for the country.

It is always, this person has that persons backing so he must play, or this person has dirt on that person so he must play, or he is buddies with the selector and/or coach, so they must play.

This systemic issue constantly being a point of emphasis will never lead to the best results for Pakistan cricket. Unfortunately we will continue to see this round-about way of leadership for the foreseeable future.

It is honestly just cabal after cabal, and though we are not capable of winning at the big stage, at the very worst we can try to put the best team out there in terms of talent.

We did very well in the World Cup given what talent we have, and in a bizarre move we fire the coach that seemed to actually have a good system in place, that over the years might be able to build from the grass roots level in terms of good discipline and the way to play. Stay away from the Afridi archetype, and have more of the Babar's of fitness and hard work, discipline, and no free handouts.

It is always the same unforunately, and we will constantly have to discuss this over and over again, and make ourselves go crazy. Maybe down the line someone from the top will stop this style of running PCB, but as of now it is as it has always been; a show to appease X or Y person/player, and keeping Pakistan and the fans interest in the backburner.


No point to feel disappointed man.. there still folks even in this group who actually think Shehzad and Ajmal has done extremely well in PSL 5 (so far). So we know we have folks who do not look at performance but rather name..

This is truly unfortunate, Pakistan team will forever suffer
 
After so many years of watching Pakistan cricket, I think we can all agree that doing the right thing goes against the logic of PCB.

Whereas once upon a time we could get by with the best talent in the 90s, now with the talent pool few and far between, one must be tactical in their approach to team selection and coaching, which of course we continuously fail it.

It is not Misbah's fault they selected him. Give me a high paying job and a position of power with little experience, and full autonomy and I would say sign me up right away. This is as it has always been a systemic issue.

Constantly having to appease people's egos and never focusing on the bottom dollar, which is winning matches and having some respect for the country.

It is always, this person has that persons backing so he must play, or this person has dirt on that person so he must play, or he is buddies with the selector and/or coach, so they must play.

This systemic issue constantly being a point of emphasis will never lead to the best results for Pakistan cricket. Unfortunately we will continue to see this round-about way of leadership for the foreseeable future.

It is honestly just cabal after cabal, and though we are not capable of winning at the big stage, at the very worst we can try to put the best team out there in terms of talent.

We did very well in the World Cup given what talent we have, and in a bizarre move we fire the coach that seemed to actually have a good system in place, that over the years might be able to build from the grass roots level in terms of good discipline and the way to play. Stay away from the Afridi archetype, and have more of the Babar's of fitness and hard work, discipline, and no free handouts.

It is always the same unforunately, and we will constantly have to discuss this over and over again, and make ourselves go crazy. Maybe down the line someone from the top will stop this style of running PCB, but as of now it is as it has always been; a show to appease X or Y person/player, and keeping Pakistan and the fans interest in the backburner.

In a broader spectrum of things, I tend to agree with you.
However, we must scratch the dirt to get to the bottom of this exceptional case.

First, Misbah himself.
Let's put aside his cricketing skill - whether he saved Pak cricket after 2010 and has an MBA, or whether he was a tuk tuk batsman, is not our topic of discussion here.

We are looking at the role he has played after retiring from cricket.

When Mickey was shown the door, you needed a new coach for which PCB was ready to pay $20,000 odd a month and a guaranteed salary for three years regardless of how he performs and regardless of whether he stays on job or gets fired.

With this premise, you may think that PCB would hire someone with a jaw dropping coaching ability, and a track record of making a huge difference in the international arena.

But guess who did we hire?

Deep in his heart Misbah knew it with 1000% surety that he does NOT qualify to apply for either of the positions - it’s like a pharmacy graduate applying for a physician and a surgeon’s job combined - YET - he applied for these positions.
Why? Because of greed, money and power and the auxiliary of a dishonest mindset.

IMO, if Misbah had an iota of sincerity and honesty towards the true benefit of Pak cricket, he would’ve stayed back and helped the board in finding the right and qualified professionals to take on these two positions. But for $240,000, a year, it wasn’t hard to sell his soul. (And in all honesty, I guess many of us would do it too).

But seriously ask yourself, where is the concept of giving back to the country?

This country gave him prestige, money and fame - and in return, what did he do?
If we look back, he actually started to show his colors by filing an application with Pak govt to exempt his salary from all taxes.

Don't you love it? You want to use the cricket grounds of this country, you want to drive on the roads of this country, you want to earn money in this country, but you don't want to pay taxes?
If it was a poor mochi, nayee, chai wala then yeah but can you imagine it for someone making millions of Rs every month?

This was the point where I lost most of my respect for Misbah.

Now comes Wasim Khan.
Over his tenure, he surely did quite a few a good things professionally. His hard-work and his role behind the scenes to bring cricket back to Pakistan is surely commendable. So credit must be given where due.

However, he badly slipped here.
Misbah lured Wasim Khan into it and not only got both jobs but made him sign a guaranteed salary of a whopping US$720,000 over 3 years regardless of results.

How is this even possible? The only way I see this happening is, if the prime minister has personally forced Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani to accept Misbah's unrealistic salary demands, otherwise, Wasim Khan can't be this dumb, or is he?

Imran Khan can't be this corrupt and Wasim Khan can't be this much of a lallu - so this truly is a mystery for me as to how Misbah landed on this job with all his demands met by the board?

And to make the situation worse, Wasim Khan, after all is a DESI.

And what’s the desi mindset?
“Accept death but don't accept your mistake.”
This is a classical desi trait. This is hardwired into our DNA. We all have it.

Wasim Khan will now take the criticism on Misbah as a personal hit on his ego because it questions his intelligence and his ability to do his job.

He will be hell bent to defend Misbah’s hiring no matter what evidence, what logic and what results you present to him.

Just don’t have the guts to say "Sorry, I made a mistake. Let me fix it".

Here, in the west, you might’ve seen it a few times that when a person, on a high position, gets caught in corruption or sex scandal etc, he publicly apologizes and immediately resigns from the office - NEVER will you see this in desis. NEVER!

But then again,
At the end of the day, cricket is a funny game and Pakistan is an ultra unpredictable team.
Who knows if the team wins the upcoming T20 WC?
Misbah will gladly take the honor of making this all happen.
But if we badly lose, many of us will have our knives out for Misbah and Waqar.
 
In a broader spectrum of things, I tend to agree with you.
However, we must scratch the dirt to get to the bottom of this exceptional case.

First, Misbah himself.
Let's put aside his cricketing skill - whether he saved Pak cricket after 2010 and has an MBA, or whether he was a tuk tuk batsman, is not our topic of discussion here.

We are looking at the role he has played after retiring from cricket.

When Mickey was shown the door, you needed a new coach for which PCB was ready to pay $20,000 odd a month and a guaranteed salary for three years regardless of how he performs and regardless of whether he stays on job or gets fired.

With this premise, you may think that PCB would hire someone with a jaw dropping coaching ability, and a track record of making a huge difference in the international arena.

But guess who did we hire?

Deep in his heart Misbah knew it with 1000% surety that he does NOT qualify to apply for either of the positions - it’s like a pharmacy graduate applying for a physician and a surgeon’s job combined - YET - he applied for these positions.
Why? Because of greed, money and power and the auxiliary of a dishonest mindset.

IMO, if Misbah had an iota of sincerity and honesty towards the true benefit of Pak cricket, he would’ve stayed back and helped the board in finding the right and qualified professionals to take on these two positions. But for $240,000, a year, it wasn’t hard to sell his soul. (And in all honesty, I guess many of us would do it too).

But seriously ask yourself, where is the concept of giving back to the country?

This country gave him prestige, money and fame - and in return, what did he do?
If we look back, he actually started to show his colors by filing an application with Pak govt to exempt his salary from all taxes.

Don't you love it? You want to use the cricket grounds of this country, you want to drive on the roads of this country, you want to earn money in this country, but you don't want to pay taxes?
If it was a poor mochi, nayee, chai wala then yeah but can you imagine it for someone making millions of Rs every month?

This was the point where I lost most of my respect for Misbah.

Now comes Wasim Khan.
Over his tenure, he surely did quite a few a good things professionally. His hard-work and his role behind the scenes to bring cricket back to Pakistan is surely commendable. So credit must be given where due.

However, he badly slipped here.
Misbah lured Wasim Khan into it and not only got both jobs but made him sign a guaranteed salary of a whopping US$720,000 over 3 years regardless of results.

How is this even possible? The only way I see this happening is, if the prime minister has personally forced Wasim Khan and Ehsan Mani to accept Misbah's unrealistic salary demands, otherwise, Wasim Khan can't be this dumb, or is he?

Imran Khan can't be this corrupt and Wasim Khan can't be this much of a lallu - so this truly is a mystery for me as to how Misbah landed on this job with all his demands met by the board?

And to make the situation worse, Wasim Khan, after all is a DESI.

And what’s the desi mindset?
“Accept death but don't accept your mistake.”
This is a classical desi trait. This is hardwired into our DNA. We all have it.

Wasim Khan will now take the criticism on Misbah as a personal hit on his ego because it questions his intelligence and his ability to do his job.

He will be hell bent to defend Misbah’s hiring no matter what evidence, what logic and what results you present to him.

Just don’t have the guts to say "Sorry, I made a mistake. Let me fix it".

Here, in the west, you might’ve seen it a few times that when a person, on a high position, gets caught in corruption or sex scandal etc, he publicly apologizes and immediately resigns from the office - NEVER will you see this in desis. NEVER!

But then again,
At the end of the day, cricket is a funny game and Pakistan is an ultra unpredictable team.
Who knows if the team wins the upcoming T20 WC?
Misbah will gladly take the honor of making this all happen.
But if we badly lose, many of us will have our knives out for Misbah and Waqar.

Excellent post. Agree with everything. I dread the state this duffer coach will leave us in
 
It is hilarious to see Mickey's fans taking a dig at Misbah when Karachi Kings consistently under-performed under their savior. Misbah at least won two PSLs.

ISLU is going through a rebuilding phase. They appointed a new captain. They are phasing out older bowlers. Rumman was their most successful bowler in the past. This time he bowled rubbish. Faheem has worsened to the extent that I won't be surprised if he's not picked by any team in the next edition. Last two editions, he was among the top wicket takers. Asif Ali's golden period is over. He can't even smack 20-30 runs anymore. One must not forget that they were also robbed by rain in two games which they should have won.

All these have contributed to ISLU failing to qualify for the semis. I am not defending Misbah who did make some errors but you can't pin down the entire blame on him.
 
All those people who blindly supported Misbah from 2010 till now, i am actually enjoying Misbah being the Pakistani coach and CS, it was only a matter of time before even the patience of his diehard supporters would be tested
 
Too much faith in has-beens and never-will-bes like Talat and Fahim. How Saif Badar wasn't given a single game was disgraceful.
 
What purpose is Saeed Ajmal at IU apart from being Misbah's good friend.

The analysts, the so-called experts, who are only there as they are friends of the owners.

Kick them out. Get rid of dead-wood.
 
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