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What is the use of Sarfaraz Ahmed shouting at players?

Sher Khan

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If you look around the world, the great captains did not shout at their players. Infact, I can’t recall any captain like Sarfraz that belittles and shouts at his own players. In a gully mohalla match you can do with shouting at your players.

But honestly, Sarfraz shouting at his players and then shelling sitters- makes him look like a clown. If it is his style to lead like that, we should see results from it. Not least, with him leading by example and holding onto catches.
 
First step is to axe Sarfaraz as captain.
 
Does he still shout? I thought in this series he had given up and stopped speaking at all. Useless captain the sooner we get rid of him the better. Like Mourinho with United, toxic toxic men.
 
If you look around the world, the great captains did not shout at their players. Infact, I can’t recall any captain like Sarfraz that belittles and shouts at his own players. In a gully mohalla match you can do with shouting at your players.

But honestly, Sarfraz shouting at his players and then shelling sitters- makes him look like a clown. If it is his style to lead like that, we should see results from it. Not least, with him leading by example and holding onto catches.
he is dropping catches again?
 
Empty vessels make the most noise - proverb that means those with the least talent and knowledge usually speak the most/ loudest
 
On the international level, you do not want to see your captain treating his players like schoolboys. In my opinion, it affects his own concentration on the field. For example, today’s sitter he dropped. He fully wasn’t excepting it despite being the wicketkeeper.
 
On the international level, you do not want to see your captain treating his players like schoolboys. In my opinion, it affects his own concentration on the field. For example, today’s sitter he dropped. He fully wasn’t excepting it despite being the wicketkeeper.

Downright freakish thing to happen for an edge to go behind to the one chap wearing gloves - poor guy can't get a break, my heart bleeds for him!!
 
I said after the Hafeez's first innings failure in the last NZ test that if he had any dignity left in him he would retire from tests. The same applies to Sarfraz after the conclusion of this test.
 
Nothing wrong with it. Stop crying fgs.

Bro I disagree - a respected team leader does not need to shout/ denigrate his team in any walk of life - EVEN in a war zone the man in charge will be giving out clear orders without getting hysterical and may have to raise his voice over the sound of shelling/ firing - no shelling/ firing going on here!
 
He acts like a tool lol There was a certain single. They took it. He was yelling at the fielder for allowing the single.
 
Best Captain since Khan - why such threads even allowed to stay here. People are sprouting rubbish against the guy who screamed & yelled his way to CT win single handed.
 
Best Captain since Khan - why such threads even allowed to stay here. People are sprouting rubbish against the guy who screamed & yelled his way to CT win single handed.

This^^^

Sarfaraz is a street fighter. He intimidates the opposition. Some so called no.1 batsmen and captain are not fit enough to tie Sarfaraz's shoe laces.
 
He wants to prove he's the boss.

Needs to do the talking with bat and gloves though.
 
In this series he didnt scream much.I mean today was a bad day for us but instead of scolding the bowlers he seemed pretty dull actually.

But yes,screaming especially on your own players is demoralizing and needs to stop.
 
Reminds of moin khan when he was skipper of pakistan, completely clueless and just seem to always laying the blame else where.
 
Bro I disagree - a respected team leader does not need to shout/ denigrate his team in any walk of life - EVEN in a war zone the man in charge will be giving out clear orders without getting hysterical and may have to raise his voice over the sound of shelling/ firing - no shelling/ firing going on here!

What you said is correct, but Sarfraz doesn't fall under that criteria. He isn't going overboard imo.
 
People make a mountain out of a molehill

He is a specialist captain, he knows what he is doing
 
It gives very bad optics, the way he carries on at times. But it also depends on what he is saying. If it is just insulting or telling them off, then yeah, that's terrible. If he's telling them things to improve their cricket (eg., why didn't you put your body behind the ball), then that's a different story.
 
Sarfraz's time as a test captain is quickly running out. Do we have any other batsman keeper in the domestics?
 
Best Captain since Khan - why such threads even allowed to stay here. People are sprouting rubbish against the guy who screamed & yelled his way to CT win single handed.

This isn't 2017 anymore, it's almost been 2 years since the CT win. If you want to shout at other players prove your worth in the team first.
 
Players who don’t make the team on merit and have rubbish fitness levels have no business shouting at other players.
 
He's a captain of an International proffesional team not under 13's.

Sometimes he screams at the bowler before the batsmen can even play the shot lol.

If he has an issue with anyone instead of going crazy he should walk up to the player and explain his frustrations and then encourage the player.

And when you're not leading by example, you have little right to moan at others even if you are the captain.
 
This isn't 2017 anymore, it's almost been 2 years since the CT win. If you want to shout at other players prove your worth in the team first.

Haha, why so many Sheldon coopers in one place? :facepalm:

Isn't it quite obvious from his post that he was being sarcastic? Lol.
 
It looked pretty impressive early on but now it is frankly embarrassing and shows a shocking lack of suitability for the job
 
It does look demeaning towards other players, when he yells at them. Once in a while it's ok but if it has become part of his personality, then it's an issue.
 
Best Captain since Khan - why such threads even allowed to stay here. People are sprouting rubbish against the guy who screamed & yelled his way to CT win single handed.
I take it that that is a joke?

Sarfraz was arguably Pakistan’s only world class player in 2016, but the burden of the captaincy has led to his mental disintegration.

The best captains either operate like a haughty officer (Imran Khan, Michael Vaughan) or have immense charisma (Tony Greig, Brendon McCullum) or have outstanding man management skills (Mike Brearley, Mark Taylor).

The very worst captains have such burning intensity inside that they either scream and shout like a Sergeant-Major (Sarfraz, Trump) or just have a meltdown in their own performance (Botham, Sarfraz).

The captaincy has turned Sarfraz’s Test batting into Shahid Afridi, throwing the bat at every ball.

He needs to go.

If you remember, until the spotfixing scandal emerged we were all delighted that Salman Butt won two Tests in England in 2010 with the worst Pakistan batting line-up of all-time. And it was his calmness and support for his players which let him lead - and is still reflected in Asif, Kamran Akmal and Wahab Riaz now.

Captaincy requires a cool head.
 
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I take it that that is a joke?

Sarfraz was arguably Pakistan’s only world class player in 2016, but the burden of the captaincy has led to his mental disintegration.

The best captains either operate like a haughty officer (Imran Khan, Michael Vaughan) or have immense charisma (Tony Greig, Brendon McCullum) or have outstanding man management skills (Mike Brearley, Mark Taylor).

The very worst captains have such burning intensity inside that they either scream and shout like a Sergeant-Major (Sarfraz, Trump) or just have a meltdown in their own performance (Botham, Sarfraz).

The captaincy has turned Sarfraz’s Test batting into Shahid Afridi, throwing the bat at every ball.

He needs to go.

If you remember, until the spotfixing scandal emerged we were all delighted that Salman Butt won two Tests in England in 2010 with the worst Pakistan batting line-up of all-time. And it was his calmness and support for his players which let him lead - and is still reflected in Asif, Kamran Akmal and Wahab Riaz now.

Captaincy requires a cool head.

You also!!!! At least you should know that I have seen Khan ......... and now watching Sarfraz.
 
The greatest myth in sport is that acting like a total tool to your teammates is a sign of passion and good leadership.

Fact is he acts like a child and it looks even worse in the context of him being unable to buy a run for ages. All the berating and screaming does is affect his teammates performance negatively and foster resentment. Terrible leader.
 
Yelling is his style of disciplining

His teammates are professional players, not school kids who need disciplining. Frankly, terrible captain & the absolutely worst man-manager i have seen in cricket. His defeatist body language, yelling, tantrums are all casting a shadow on his teammates performances, especially the bowlers.
 
So if (when) Sarfraz gets the boot as captain and he has to serve as keeper and player under a new captain, would he be open to being screamed at himself?
 
Silence can be so soothing

I dont know how you guys feel about this - but the lack of constant barking, yelling, scolding from behind the wickets is such a pleasant experience. Maybe since I am watching this match since 3 am EST, Sarfraz's lack of chirping is proving to be very calming.

Not only for me as a viewer but even for the bowlers - they probably are bowling with no fear of being barked at by their skipper constantly. I mean the second wicket of Shaheen - the ball was down the leg side and imagine had it not been a wicket - Shaheen probably would have gotten an earful from Sarfraz.

Overall the silence behind the wickets is not only good for a viewer like me but I am reasonably convinced that the bowlers are also performing without any additional and unnecessary pressure from the captain yelling behind the stumps all the time.
 
No more constant noise pollution and screaming at his own players every ball by Sarf.

Great for our players. Also for us.

They look more motivated.
 
Sarfraz style of captaining reminds me of moin khans the constant shouting and screaming at everyone

we all know what heppened under him in karachi and how long his tenure lasted

its an awful way of captaining No one appreciates being micro managed and the constant deluge of verbal criticism Its one method that should be relegated to the dustbin
 
Because "our players need a danda".:))):)):))) can't forget that excuse to defend this pathetic approach.
 
Really a batameez captain. He is shouting at his own players in the circle. This guy give no confidence to the locals......

Rizwan much well mannered compared to this guy
 
So sarfraz crying on a wide, the commentator says he shouldnt be complaining, danny says he always will.. :))
 
QG and Sarfaraz had things under control against IU but they've lost the plot in more ways than one.
 
When sarfraz took over captaincy, i think there was time and place to scream and yell like how wasim akram used to do to incite and make players work hard.

we just didnt have a strong team and people were just fed up with dead/ no heart beat and passionless cricket from misbah era

i dont know if this will work anymore in the current set-up, talent is better and professionalism and fitness is better.
 
we need a shouting captain at least we won 75% of our t20 games the champions trophy 17 and the under 19 world cup.
 
Sarcraz shouted at his players when they did something stupid. Not when team was getting thrashed, he would go up and comfort and explain.

I still remember when he got mad at hasan Ali for his celebration. People can whine and complain all they want but sarfi had every right to scream at hasan Ali for doing a nonsense celebration of a wicket when the gane was tight and not over.

It's alot better then babar saying shabash shabash and clapping 24/7
 
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So now the high five gang after supporting azam and amir are now telling us about how good sarfraz was?
 
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So now the high five gang after supporting azam and amir are now telling us about how good sarfraz was?

Besides Rana Bhai, no one else supported azam and kept asking for his removal and called him a disgrace. Neither emran nor Dr bassim nor me or anyone else advocated for azam.

As for Amir, Everyone is bowling extremely poorly, yes Amir is included but please come off it.

You keep telling others that everyone makes it a like and dislike war, Well when I had the conversation about Amir with you for 2017 you went scream mode. You dislike Amir for spot fixing, which is fine, but critise everyone fairly, Amir deserves a beating but so does Babar, Rizwam, Chacha and all these lovers who misbah chose to represent.

Sarfraz has a champions trophy, has 29 wins and those losses are primarily due to misbah changing the entire team and responding with sarcastic remarks.
 
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Definitely one of the best captains of Pakistan add to it he is a trophy winner, the hate for him even in his playing days was unjustified
The hate for him was because of misbah fans, no one else hated sarfi lol, he was outside the misbah clique, He was not azhar Ali who was a misbah buddy.

The ct win, the t20 records were a gut and a Slap to misbah fans. Notice how people like major haven't critiqued rizwan or chacha who are misbah buddies but has critiqued everyone else
 
This Pakistan team is not the one who is going to be serious until they are forced to. That is what Sarfaraz did.

But every captain has his own way of taking things forward. I don't remember any other captain doing this shouting stuff.
 
This Pakistan team is not the one who is going to be serious until they are forced to. That is what Sarfaraz did.

But every captain has his own way of taking things forward. I don't remember any other captain doing this shouting stuff.
Well that's because they didn't really need to.

The team respected Imran Khan and were loyal, IK didn't have to worry about these lads not gelling together.

Younis Khan didn't do anything on the field but off the field he was a literal nightmare which is why oathgate happened but even so, YK gelled everyone's ego's into one, They wouldn't dare do anything cause YK is the type of guy who'll sock you in the mouth and verbally and physically attack you. This is the same guy who's threatened fans with knives lol.

Also social media was less prevalent during their time.

As for Misbah, Misbah choose his own friends. He's the first person to create this dosti yaari group. So their wasn't a need, he didn't hold anyone together. Players like shehzad and akmal were ego heads. Misbah is basically just a slightly better version of Babar since at the very least he's competent when it comes to field placements.

Sarfraz did it on the field, but he had to deal with a social media era, this joke lot doesn't even respect themselves aka azam khan.
 
its hilarious how kids who didnt watch an era come here and write long essays as if they were eye witness.

People who didnt watch an era should not come here to make judgements.
 
Sarfraz was more aggressive captain than Inzimam MoYo Misbah Hafeez Waqar And Butt, its a fact
 
Babar can’t even reach to Sarfraz level of captaincy even after 5 years . There is no comparison .
 
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