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Dropped(rested) from Test match..
After a couple of good spells against India he was hyped to be next Wasim Akram.
He has not displayed his full potential yet but seems to involved in lot of politics under the influence of his father in law.
Much needed rest or kick in the backside for hi. To sort things out?
 
too much of chances has been provided and his arrogance is getting increased day by day so better to give him a long rest so he can sort things in order and then make a comeback in the team.
 
SSA needs to do some self introspection. If he has any sense left, he would realize that all is not lost and he can still find his way back if he works hard. But doubt it. If history is any guide, he will giving a tell all media interview with all the juicy details soon enough. Or worse, his FIL will start speaking for him.
 
Shaheen needed a reality check and now he is dropped for this 2nd test match. It should be a wakeup call for him now. He was taking things for granted.
 
He should retire from rest cricket.

He is most valuable to Pakistan when swinging back in at pace in T20s.

That should be his focus.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He should retire from rest cricket.

He is most valuable to Pakistan when swinging back in at pace in T20s.

That should be his focus.
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Wow...this is just sad coming from the fans themselves.

Here is an incredibly talented young tall fast bowler who bowls decent pace....and you guys want to use him for the 2 over powerplay spells in T20s? Not to win Test series in Australia and England...not to win big ODI tournaments and series'?
 
Mesozoic said:
Wow...this is just sad coming from the fans themselves.

Here is an incredibly talented young tall fast bowler who bowls decent pace....and you guys want to use him for the 2 over powerplay spells in T20s? Not to win Test series in Australia and England...not to win big ODI tournaments and series'?
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Need to be realistic. No point running him into the ground on tests. He obviously doesn't want to play them either.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He should retire from rest cricket.

He is most valuable to Pakistan when swinging back in at pace in T20s.

That should be his focus.
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An international fast bowler cannot build his career by merely playing 24 ball format, he will be easily worked out by batters after few games. If he wants to improve his skills he has to play longer format. Bumrah, Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood, Rabada, Mark Wood doesn't rely on T20s, they focus on all formats. In anyway Pakistan plays less cricket in comparison to other teams so workload shouldn't be an issue. Shaheen already missed Eng & NZ test series at home.
 
I have a theory that Shaheen being dropped is not because of form.

If that was the criteria then Babar and Rizwan would have been booted in 2022 for their gand alone.

I have a feeling after Babar took back captaincy backstabbing shaheen, Shaheen understandably caused a scene. His instagram lion motivational speech was a message and a threat.

Since then they've been looking for an excuse to get rid of him because shaheen no longer supports this cult.

Ik for a fact that this is not merit based. This is the same lot that dropped fakhar because it doesn't suit their agenda, the same lot that dropped Imam mot because of poor form, but because Imam ran his mouth on media.

The truth is Imam has been getting replaced by Shan and is now permanently replaced because Shan is a part of the nexus aka the hidden member who's now into the light.

Former members of the nexus Imam and Shaheen are out.

The current nexus is : Babar, Rizwan, Shan, Chacha, Shadab, Abdullah.
 
Shahin not becoming an atg will be a travesty to cricket. Bowlers with his characteristics are rare. Chaminda Vaas with 10 km less pace and 6 inch less height wad a world class bowler. The minimum standard Shahin should set himself is that of Starc.
 
The PCB will never axe him from the Pakistan team; he is the backbone of our pace attack. All he needs to do is focus on domestic cricket to reassess his basics and come back stronger.
 
Next Akram /Vaas will be our Saviour, yes there are similarities but is as far as it goes, SSA doesn't have the mental skills to pick up and follow where the likes of Akram/Vaas (I posted a comment earlier about our DNA) It's like SSA FIRST INTEREST is being BIGGER name in Pakistan cricket than Babar, SECOND INTREST is taking wickets.
 
FearlessRoar said:
The PCB will never axe him from the Pakistan team; he is the backbone of our pace attack. All he needs to do is focus on domestic cricket to reassess his basics and come back stronger.
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Umm, they just axed him bro
 
anikrc1 said:
Shahin not becoming an atg will be a travesty to cricket. Bowlers with his characteristics are rare. Chaminda Vaas with 10 km less pace and 6 inch less height wad a world class bowler. The minimum standard Shahin should set himself is that of Starc.
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True but mentally his weakness will mean Topley will finish above him.
 
mominsaigol said:
I have a theory that Shaheen being dropped is not because of form.

If that was the criteria then Babar and Rizwan would have been booted in 2022 for their gand alone.

I have a feeling after Babar took back captaincy backstabbing shaheen, Shaheen understandably caused a scene. His instagram lion motivational speech was a message and a threat.

Since then they've been looking for an excuse to get rid of him because shaheen no longer supports this cult.

Ik for a fact that this is not merit based. This is the same lot that dropped fakhar because it doesn't suit their agenda, the same lot that dropped Imam mot because of poor form, but because Imam ran his mouth on media.

The truth is Imam has been getting replaced by Shan and is now permanently replaced because Shan is a part of the nexus aka the hidden member who's now into the light.

Former members of the nexus Imam and Shaheen are out.

The current nexus is : Babar, Rizwan, Shan, Chacha, Shadab, Abdullah.
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I have a theory, nah, I have a feeling..Mention facts brother, mention facts.

Shaheen is amongst the worst first choice bowlers in world at the moment. His numbers suggest that.

And please cut down this hobby of bashing Riz. He is best thing come out of Pakistan since Jame Shirin.
 
gazza619 said:
I have a theory, nah, I have a feeling..Mention facts brother, mention facts.

Shaheen is amongst the worst first choice bowler in world at the moment. His numbers suggest that.

And please cut down this hobby of bashing Riz. He is best thing come out of Pakistan since Jame Shirin.
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Rizwan is the best thing to come out of Pakistan?

So not Inzimam, not Saeed Anwar, not zaheer abass, not ijaz Ahmed, not aamer sohail, not falhar zaman, not shahid afridi, not Mohammad yousaf, not wasim akram, not Imran Khan, not Waqar younis, not saqlain Mushtaq, not Mushtaq Ahmed, not hanif Mohammad

But Muhammad Rizwan? 🤣.
 
Babar has nothing to do with Shaheen being dropped for the 2nd test. Look at Shaheen's record being a head of a pace attack, he was struggling behind the likes of Mir Hamza and Khurram, etc. Naseem bowled better than him.

His rest was pretty much on the cards. I want him to be rested for the next series as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar has nothing to do with Shaheen being dropped for the 2nd test. Look at Shaheen's record being a head of a pace attack, he was struggling behind the likes of Mir Hamza and Khurram, etc. Naseem bowled better than him.

His rest was pretty much on the cards. I want him to be rested for the next series as well.
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It has everything to do with bobby, but more importantly this has more to do with rizwan and Babar.

These 2 will burn everyone, it's just the ignorant can't see it yet.
 
mominsaigol said:
It has everything to do with bobby, but more importantly this has more to do with rizwan and Babar.

These 2 will burn everyone, it's just the ignorant can't see it yet.
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Nothing to do with his performances then (or should I say, the lack of them) ?
 
Fast bowling wasn’t meant for him because he was not pacy.
 
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mominsaigol said:
Rizwan is the best thing to come out of Pakistan?

So not Inzimam, not Saeed Anwar, not zaheer abass, not ijaz Ahmed, not aamer sohail, not falhar zaman, not shahid afridi, not Mohammad yousaf, not wasim akram, not Imran Khan, not Waqar younis, not saqlain Mushtaq, not Mushtaq Ahmed, not hanif Mohammad

But Muhammad Rizwan? 🤣.
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How can you compare a wicket keeper with a fast bowler or a spinner?

Rizwan is the best ever wicket keeping allrounder that Pakistan has ever produced. End of.
 
gazza619 said:
How can you compare a wicket keeper with a fast bowler or a spinner?

Rizwan is the best ever wicket keeping allrounder that Pakistan has ever produced. End of.
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You all need to stop hiding behind the wicket keeping clause to justify this
 
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mominsaigol said:
You all need to stop hiding behind the wicket keeping clause to justify this
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With all due respect that you must be not born during Moin/Rashid era or must have only heard about Bari or Saleem Yousuf. I have seen these guys play. Rizwan is miles ahead of them.

You must undestand there is no Dhoni or De Kock or Gilrchrist in the domestic circuit available for Pakistan.

Rizwan is currently Pakistan’s most reliable all format player. Even when is out of form he still chips in with performances due to his sheer hard work and determination.

It is a shame that he gets hate.
 
gazza619 said:
With all due respect that you must be not born during Moin/Rashid era or must have only heard about Bari or Saleem Yousuf. I have seen these guys play. Rizwan is miles ahead of them.

You must undestand there is no Dhoni or De Kock or Gilrchrist in the domestic circuit available for Pakistan.

Rizwan is currently Pakistan’s most reliable all format player. Even when is out of form he still chips in with performances due to his sheer hard work and determination.

It is a shame that he gets hate.
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Lol cute.

He gets hate because unlike moin or latif or bari or sarfi he blocks pathways and whines about his position.

Fakhar's avg and sr is meaningless where fakhar scoring 91 of 46 against prime Australia and getting pakistan that no 1 rank is bigger them rizzu's entire t20 career of bottle jobs.

Similarly he had no rhyme or reason to come at no 4 when pakistan was performing well and rizzu scored 2 back to back 50's at no 5, however due to his Zid, he failed 9 innings in a row before his sri lanka exploits in asia cup amd world cup.

To top it off his bottle job in 2022 alone warranted a drop from opening.

Moin Khan, Rashid latif, Waseem bari never replaced someone like saeed Anwar or inzi at batting. They knew their job was to be a specialist keeper and play for the team at assigned numbers.

Rizwan dug his own grave and by extension pakistan's grave in t20 and odi when he took the job, and to make matters worse him getting dropped against NZ and needing sarfi motivation to get back in form is a terrible look.

Fakhar got you that no 1 rank by beating Australia in 2018, you removed him and this bottle job has led to no 7 along with humilating world cup defeats in 2024 and a final bottle job 2x in 2022.

This is my issue with you lot, you're hiding behind the keeping clause to justify a medicore batsmen, while Moin Khan never did that, their was never any question of moin ever replacing the likes of Anwar, miandad inzi, ijaz, aamer sohail or whoever was batting at the top
 
mominsaigol said:
Lol cute.

He gets hate because unlike moin or latif or bari or sarfi he blocks pathways and whines about his position.

Fakhar's avg and sr is meaningless where fakhar scoring 91 of 46 against prime Australia and getting pakistan that no 1 rank is bigger them rizzu's entire t20 career of bottle jobs.

Similarly he had no rhyme or reason to come at no 4 when pakistan was performing well and rizzu scored 2 back to back 50's at no 5, however due to his Zid, he failed 9 innings in a row before his sri lanka exploits in asia cup amd world cup.

To top it off his bottle job in 2022 alone warranted a drop from opening.

Moin Khan, Rashid latif, Waseem bari never replaced someone like saeed Anwar or inzi at batting. They knew their job was to be a specialist keeper and play for the team at assigned numbers.

Rizwan dug his own grave and by extension pakistan's grave in t20 and odi when he took the job, and to make matters worse him getting dropped against NZ and needing sarfi motivation to get back in form is a terrible look.

Fakhar got you that no 1 rank by beating Australia in 2018, you removed him and this bottle job has led to no 7 along with humilating world cup defeats in 2024 and a final bottle job 2x in 2022.

This is my issue with you lot, you're hiding behind the keeping clause to justify a medicore batsmen, while Moin Khan never did that, their was never any question of moin ever replacing the likes of Anwar, miandad inzi, ijaz, aamer sohail or whoever was batting at the top
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Ah this actually looks like a personal issue rather than a cricketing one.

To close off the point on ex cricketers, Bari played for Pakistan mainly due to his connections higher up. There was no justification to drop Tasleem Arif. Bari was cruel and played so many games despite a batting average of 15.

Moin & Rashid were pretty much tailenders and kept playing political cards against each other throughout their careers. They blocked the way for better keepers.

Rizwan was the only self-less keeper Pakistan has ever produced.

Going back to the batting at number 4, each batter has the right to push for their favourite batting position. If you disagree then you need to criticise team management for not playing anyone else at number 4.
 
gazza619 said:
Ah this actually looks like a personal issue rather than a cricketing one.

To close off the point on ex cricketers, Bari played for Pakistan mainly due to his connections higher up. There was no justification to drop Tasleem Arif. Bari was cruel and played so many games despite a batting average of 15.

Moin & Rashid were pretty much tailenders and kept playing political cards against each other throughout their careers. They blocked the way for better keepers.

Rizwan was the only self-less keeper Pakistan has ever produced.

Going back to the batting at number 4, each batter has the right to push for their favourite batting position. If you disagree then you need to criticise team management for not playing anyone else at number 4.
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They blocked off pathways for rival wicket keepers I agree.

Not for actual batters. Rizwan had no rhyme or reason to become an opener after his garbage performance in the tri series in t20 at no 4. Fakhar was in the prime of his life in that tri series but was dropped to no 3 and then no 4 later by Misbah and I'm sick of people rewriting history on using past stats before the tri series events to justify fakhar being dropped.

Rizwan was promoted due to Misbah SNGPL connections. He has been in the team since 2015 and was a failure especially at t20 before his wrongful promotion to opening. Since then you have been left with a crap t20 team and an opener who at his peak is the 4th best batter for pakistan after inzi, Miandad and Anwar. Rather then making him consistent which he was becoming via excellent form in the tri series you shoved him for this clown.

And no he does not have a right to demand anything, this is Pakistan, not his baap ki Dukaan.

No one would have any issue with rizwan and babar if these 2 won games for their team plain and simple and actually mertied their worth.

If these guys merited their position we would not be having this conversation and you would not be hiding behind the nonsense wicket keeping clause and creating false selfless narratives around him.
 
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Nothing other than, be realistic, work hard and win back his position and reputation , only by performing well, no short cut. And , stop listening to your FIL Shahid , be your own man.
 
Naseem and SSA need to get fit. SSA has lost his zip and Naseem is overweight. With no depth and these 2 falling off the cliff, our bowling is getting weaker and weaker. I hope Mir Hamza proves me wrong but he and the other 2 guys have the vibe of Solid FC bowlers and nothing more.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
too much of chances has been provided and his arrogance is getting increased day by day so better to give him a long rest so he can sort things in order and then make a comeback in the team.
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he needs to sit in his F-in-Law lap & do '' lalla lalla lori '' & retire from red ball cricket !
 
Bewal Express said:
Naseem and SSA need to get fit. SSA has lost his zip and Naseem is overweight. With no depth and these 2 falling off the cliff, our bowling is getting weaker and weaker. I hope Mir Hamza proves me wrong but he and the other 2 guys have the vibe of Solid FC bowlers and nothing more.
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Nassem being rested is a shocker . At this rate he will end up playing under 50 Tests in his career !
 
Shaheen would do well yo use this opportunity to be a good dad to his newborn.

And slowly work his way back into fitness and into the team.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Fast bowling wasn’t meant for him because he was not pacy.
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I was re-reading Osman Samiuddin's book some days ago, where he said the identity of Pakistan was fast bowling.

But Imran changed the attitude of all those who bowled for Pakistan. The most famous enshrinement is found in Imran’s commandment to Akram at the 1992 World Cup. He had been struggling to control the new ball’s swing and with his rhythm, was bowling too many wides and no-balls. The more he struggled, the more he worried and bowled within himself. Imran told him to forget about wides and no-balls and instead concentrate solely on taking wickets.That was born from the philosophy that the best way to keep runs down was to take wickets, a non-negotiable approach that was carefree rather than careless, and thrilling. An entire generation of Pakistan fast bowlers, medium-fast bowlers and all-rounders adopted the approach, bowling to attack, to hit the stumps or pads, rather than to contain. The approach was rooted in the successes of reverse swing, and it worked, arguably, during Pakistan’s most successful period in international cricket.
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I only follow the scorecards now instead of watching them bowl, but the scorecard looks more like India's when they had Prasad, Kuruvilla, Dodda Ganesh etc, than a Pakistani bowling scorecard.
 
Lol at some sections of the media saying the establishment has ordered the PCB to reduce the number of pashtun players in the team.
 
Shaheen Shah Afridi will not like it but he needed a reality check. Nobody is bigger than this country. If the same has to be done to other players then so be it. We need a cleaner and greener team. No dead weights and toxicity.
 
Said it 2 years ago and will say it again. He’s sadly finished and won’t ever reach the pinnacle height He reached prior to his injury. He’s been rushed and burnt to the ground. His pace will now always hover around the 128 kph mark. He’s turned into a nothing Paul collingwood type medium pace bowler.

Quicker he retires the better
 
Jason Gillespie today in a presser shared thoughts regarding Shaheen Shah Afridi's future with the team:

There are a few things that we hope Shaheen can work on. But currently he is having an eventful time in his personal life, so all that being considered, we want Shaheen to be at his very best for as much cricket as possible (in future). He is an all-format player, and we have a pretty heavy schedule, so we are going to make sure that he is fit and fine and bowls at his very best.
 
Savak said:
Lol at some sections of the media saying the establishment has ordered the PCB to reduce the number of pashtun players in the team.
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Is this true though?

Rizwan being given the step motherly treatment also points to it.
 
How can his pace drop this drastically remains a mystery. When Brett Lee or Akhtar used to come back from injury there was never a reduction in pace.
 
KingLiton said:
How can his pace drop this drastically remains a mystery. When Brett Lee or Akhtar used to come back from injury there was never a reduction in pace.
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Main reason being he was rushed and burnt to the ground. We have to accept he’s become a Paul collingwood military type medium pacer and His pace will now always hover around the 128 kph mark.

Quicker he’s booted the better will save his blushes. Needs to retire.
 
Shaheen Shah Afridi is going to lead LIONS in the upcoming One-day Cup 2024.

He did a fine job leading Lahore Qalandars is PSL. Can he win another title here?
 
mominsaigol said:
Rizwan is the best thing to come out of Pakistan?

So not Inzimam, not Saeed Anwar, not zaheer abass, not ijaz Ahmed, not aamer sohail, not falhar zaman, not shahid afridi, not Mohammad yousaf, not wasim akram, not Imran Khan, not Waqar younis, not saqlain Mushtaq, not Mushtaq Ahmed, not hanif Mohammad

But Muhammad Rizwan? 🤣.
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The guy is a bigger Rizwan fanboy than I imagined. It’s close to worshiping Rizwan
 
aqeelPK said:
Attend tableeghi jamat, post couple of selfies from the mosque, couple of anti israel posts on SM. He will get back all the support and sympothies.
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There is a new theory that Netanyahu is blocking Rizwan’s succession to Pakistan captaincy

@gazza619 might shed light on this
 
Shaheen should play FC cricket and take a break from Test maybe. He is really out of form in Test format.
 
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