What prevents Pakistan cricket from learning from its T20I mistakes?

[Rana]

I, along with others, have been saying this for years: Pakistan cricket's progress has stalled since losing accomplished middle-order batters Mohammad Hafeez and Shoaib Malik in the T20 format. They provided some stability despite the flawed approach of using two accumulators as openers in the powerplay.

Despite continued failures, Pakistan persists with this approach, playing the same players with subpar strike rates for their positions. The disastrous 2024 T20 World Cup performance, where Pakistan struggled against the USA and failed to chase 120 against India, should have prompted change.

Instead, the same underperforming openers, with over 70 games experience, continue to play every match. This is borderline insanity. Why maintain a failed template and only replace players in other positions?

Awarding captaincy to a player with a strike rate of 90 in the last two T20 World Cups defies logic, especially considering their impressive strike rate of 120 in the PSL on Pakistani pitches. It's perplexing to promote mediocrity to leadership.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

I mean, you can’t even say enough is enough. I and others have been saying the same thing again and again for years now. Pakistan cricket’s progress totally stalled when they lost two accomplished middle order batters in T20 format (Hafeez and Malik) who at least bailed them out to some extent with their flawed 2 accumulator opening in the powerplay approach.

They have continued with this flawed approach ever since. They continue to play the same failures who have pathetic strike rates for their positions in this format. They continue to stall, regress and are hell bent on not changing.

You would have thought things would improve after the disaster cup performance in 2024 T20 World Cup where Pakistan failed to assert authority with the bat against USA, and then failed to confidently chase 120 against India. Yet ever since, the same rubbish openers who have played 70+ games have played every match for Pakistan since.


What’s the reason? Why are Pakistan insisting on a failed method? This is borderline insanity. What kind of surgery is this? To keep the template of failure and just replacing players in the other positions?

Why would any sane country award captaincy to a guy that has struck at 90 in their last 2 T20 world cups? The same guy was striking at 120 in the PSL on Pakistan roads as well? Why are they promoting mediocrity to leadership?

Bro what else do you want you guys are never happy first of all it is aqib game he is the one who is running the show i am actually liking what aqib has done so far he created spin pitches in pak which ramiz raja clown was saying i have not cracked a code he will sure improve t20 team aswell likes of farhan and irfan khan are playing so hoping aqib will make a strong t20 team aswell.

 

[shah9425]

Bro what else do you want you guys are never happy first of all it is aqib game he is the one who is running the show i am actually liking what aqib has done so far he created spin pitches in pak which ramiz raja clown was saying i have not cracked a code he will sure improve t20 team aswell likes of farhan and irfan khan are playing so hoping aqib will make a strong t20 team aswell.

They want Asif the clown as t20 captain

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

They want Asif the clown as t20 captain

Ya true not sure Asif ali is even in right mind to play any cricket the way he bats blindly hoping it clears the boundary

 

[Rana]

Again, it seems the fans want to live in denial.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro what else do you want you guys are never happy first of all it is aqib game he is the one who is running the show i am actually liking what aqib has done so far he created spin pitches in pak which ramiz raja clown was saying i have not cracked a code he will sure improve t20 team aswell likes of farhan and irfan khan are playing so hoping aqib will make a strong t20 team aswell.

A t20 team needs to be treated as a t20 team.

An odi team needs to be treated as an odi team

And a test team needs to be treated as a test team

And this is something pakistani fans do not understand.

Before sajid, nouman, Kamran and Saud shut everyone up, everyone was convinced our test team was headed in the right direction when the truth is that

A) Babar isn't even interested in red ball and hardly plays it and it clearly shows.

B) Shaheen, Naseem and many others just don't have the fitness to bowl that many overs.

When actual test performers came in, the team looked world class. It's also why I hate the idea of omair and farhan batting in t20 when their clearly top tier red ball performers and shpuld replace Shan and Abdullah ASAP.

T20 is the same.

Babar should open in t20 as I don't mind him. He and fakhar were a good pair in t20. One accumulator is fine to prevent a collapse.

However the likes of Fakhar, Saim, Usman Khan and your top tier psl performers should only play t20 cricket.

T20 is a format where you need tullei baazi. Only one batter should be an accumulator to steady the ship and that shpuld be Babar.

Pakistani fans have an all format obsession. They think the likes of rizzu, Babar, shaheen etc should play all formats.

The only all format players need to be fakhar (Who pcb mistreated) and Saim Ayub + Sajid and Nouman.

^^ Only these 4.

 

[Kianig89]

So going on modern lines team should be

Sharjeel khan SR 133
Asif Ali 133
Usman Khan 126
AzamKhan + 133
Iftikhar Ahmed 129
Khusdil Shah 109
Shadab Khan c 139
Jamal 179
SSA
Naseem
Rauf
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Let's try this team seriously , arrange a couple of T20s Mr. NAQVI

 

[sweep_shot]

T20 is not a serious format. Test and ODI are the real formats.

Pakistan should select a more attacking team in T20. More aggressive batters are needed.

 

[mominsaigol]

So going on modern lines team should be

Sharjeel khan SR 133
Asif Ali 133
Usman Khan 126
AzamKhan + 133
Iftikhar Ahmed 129
Khusdil Shah 109
Shadab Khan c 139
Jamal 179
SSA
Naseem
Rauf
--------------

Let's try this team seriously , arrange a couple of T20s Mr. NAQVI

Why not just go for

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Saim Ayub
3) Babar Azam
4) Usman Khan (WK)
5) Khusdil Shah
6) Abdul Samad( I think he shpuld play t20 only)
7) Asif Ali
8) Arafat Minhas

^^ let's be real, Our t20 resources are very very thin as is. Keep the opening pair as is, and rotate between ,Babar, Usman, Khushdil, Samad and Asif depending in the situation?

If wicket falls early, Send Babar in, If wicket falls after 8th or 9th, Send usman Khan in to deal qith spinners?, if wicket falls in the 15th then trust Khusdil, Samad and asif to spank a few?

Or experiment with either of these 3 to smack some runs as a makeshift no 3?

Idkw you all are obsessed with a set batting order.

T20 is a format where you're suppose to be makeshift. Inglis has batted from 3 to 7, so has Maxwell?

Why is it nessassry to send rizzu, Babar, Farhan and usman as your 1, 2 , 3 and 4?

 

[mominsaigol]

Why not just go for

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Saim Ayub
3) Babar Azam
4) Usman Khan (WK)
5) Khusdil Shah
6) Abdul Samad( I think he shpuld play t20 only)
7) Asif Ali
8) Arafat Minhas

^^ let's be real, Our t20 resources are very very thin as is. Keep the opening pair as is, and rotate between ,Babar, Usman, Khushdil, Samad and Asif depending in the situation?

If wicket falls early, Send Babar in, If wicket falls after 8th or 9th, Send usman Khan in to deal qith spinners?, if wicket falls in the 15th then trust Khusdil, Samad and asif to spank a few?

Or experiment with either of these 3 to smack some runs as a makeshift no 3?

Idkw you all are obsessed with a set batting order.

T20 is a format where you're suppose to be makeshift. Inglis has batted from 3 to 7, so has Maxwell?

Why is it nessassry to send rizzu, Babar, Farhan and usman as your 1, 2 , 3 and 4?

You can also put Agha in as a makeshift no 3. Having 2 reliable accumulators wouldn't be a bad thing as Agha has a good record in t20 at 3.

But 2 accumulators max. The rest need to be tullei baaz with falhar and saim as your only 2 proper openers.

 

[Kianig89]

Yes pack the t20s with sloggers , hopefully couple of them will fire to get a good score. But the issue is Pakistan lacks proper hitter,

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They don't realise it's a mistake.

It's always someone else's fault.

 

[Kroll]

T20 is not a serious format. Test and ODI are the real formats.

Pakistan should select a more attacking team in T20. More aggressive batters are needed.

We don't have any at the required level. Or if we do, its political contacts and friends that get first dibs.

 

[Rana]

India having won the World Cup continuously improving. Not resting. Just smashed 73 in 6 overs of the powerplay breaking the record and Wanderers.

Playing 2 specialist spinners in their XI and only only proper seamer in a non Asian venue.


The will to continue to grow is clearly there. Pakistan having had the most abysmal few years with their rubbish batting approach a stubbornly not changing to serial criminals who have brought them down this low!

 

[shaz619]

They don't realise it's a mistake.

It's always someone else's fault.

Or that it was God’s will

 

[shaz619]

The worst part of it is the Pakistan fans who defend these players, there is no pressure from the media either and everyone is a gullible fool who is yet to learn from the USA & India defeats, the former should have sent a loud and clear message but it hasn’t

 

[Rana]

The worst part of it is the Pakistan fans who defend these players, there is no pressure from the media either and everyone is a gullible fool who is yet to learn from the USA & India defeats, the former should have sent a loud and clear message but it hasn’t

Today I hear Bazid Khan saying on some show that “our nation still hasn’t quite worked out the difference between ODI and T20 formats.”

I think he is right. How embarrassing? How devoid are Pakistani’s as a nation when it comes to understanding cricket?

 

[shaz619]

India having won the World Cup continuously improving. Not resting. Just smashed 73 in 6 overs of the powerplay breaking the record and Wanderers.

Playing 2 specialist spinners in their XI and only only proper seamer in a non Asian venue.


The will to continue to grow is clearly there. Pakistan having had the most abysmal few years with their rubbish batting approach a stubbornly not changing to serial criminals who have brought them down this low!

Pakistan live in their own little bubble, refuse to change their ways or plan for the future, the core group play every game and the T20’s are never used to develop younger players, they know if they do it, their spots would be under threat, these greedy players are selfish and play only for themselves and not the star & crescent, and the fans only need to see a good looking drive or some clean glove work to get the lube out and ignore everything else, it’s enough content to pump these tiny fellows on social media for months while those with fried brain cells act like they’ve just helped Pakistan land on the moon for the very first time

 

[shaz619]

Today I hear Bazid Khan saying on some show that “our nation still hasn’t quite worked out the difference between ODI and T20 formats.”

I think he is right. How embarrassing? How devoid are Pakistani’s as a nation when it comes to understanding cricket?

Pakiis bro that’s what it is, they rarely work well together in pretty much everything, but the current lot are a special breed. I don’t want to make it just about one person but Misbah Ul Haq is also responsible for taking away Pakistan cricket’s belligerent psyche and replaced it with a completely timid DNA

 

[Kianig89]

The lack of talent or type of players required are also a issue in Pakistan, hitting in international cricket has evolved unlike blind slogging which our players try to do.

Also our players lack in the technique of hard hitting , players like Klaasen Maxwell they have had that innate ability or have developed the skills to hit long long sixes. None of the recent Pakistan players have that ability.

Those who try have a very low success rate like Asif Ali or AzamKhan.

Every Pakistan fan would love to see the team flourishing at 65/0 in 6 overs. But unfortunately the personnel is not there. Pakistan have tried but they are yet to crack a code. Saim Ayub was given a long rope but no dividends.

The only hope can be selectors should go with the best attacking option from the lotand hope for the best, with coaches working in these players BTS.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistam should focus on playing positive brave cricket and on winning most importantly. What Bharat is doing currently in T20s is not something that should inspire Pakistan to do anything different.

 

[Rana]

The lack of talent or type of players required are also a issue in Pakistan, hitting in international cricket has evolved unlike blind slogging which our players try to do.

Also our players lack in the technique of hard hitting , players like Klaasen Maxwell they have had that innate ability or have developed the skills to hit long long sixes. None of the recent Pakistan players have that ability.

Those who try have a very low success rate like Asif Ali or AzamKhan.

Every Pakistan fan would love to see the team flourishing at 65/0 in 6 overs. But unfortunately the personnel is not there. Pakistan have tried but they are yet to crack a code. Saim Ayub was given a long rope but no dividends.

The only hope can be selectors should go with the best attacking option from the lotand hope for the best, with coaches working in these players BTS.

I think you also struggle to understand the difference between ODI and T20

T20 isn’t a shortened version of ODI cricket.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

There are no mistakes during the game... it's all about the wrong selections from which we start building expectations. By using sticks donkeys will not turn into horses.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan will continue relying on bowlers stepping up. If it is a batting shoot out Pakistan batting will be brutally exposed unless Fakhar has a day out.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

There is not much batting talent in Pakistan especially for white ball format.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Pakistan will continue relying on bowlers stepping up. If it is a batting shoot out Pakistan batting will be brutally exposed unless Fakhar has a day out.

bhai what did we achieve in bowling shootout either

 

[Rana]

Yeah let’s never ever learn!

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah let’s never ever learn!

His innings today was worse then his asia cup final innings. Infact it's worse then his innings against India.

According to Zampa, The pitch got more and more difficult to bat on hence Australia knew the first 3 overs were key to victory.

How do you flunk your first 3, infact no your first 10 overs so bad?

 

[Rana]

His innings today was worse then his asia cup final innings. Infact it's worse then his innings against India.

According to Zampa, The pitch got more and more difficult to bat on hence Australia knew the first 3 overs were key to victory.

How do you flunk your first 3, infact no your first 10 overs so bad?

5 wides off the first ball as well

 

[mominsaigol]

5 wides off the first ball as well

Rizzu is very very very lucky that saim ayub was with him in the 2nd and 3rd odi.

Otherwise this rubbish would have been exposed just like he was in the 1st odi.

 

[Kroll]

Might as well bang our heads against the wall.

 

[Rana]

Might as well bang our heads against the wall.

And then what bro? Yes the sensible people like us will continue to point it out….but the key decision makers are just not getting this one howling issue right!

 

[zaidihusain]

Today I hear Bazid Khan saying on some show that “our nation still hasn’t quite worked out the difference between ODI and T20 formats.”

I think he is right. How embarrassing? How devoid are Pakistani’s as a nation when it comes to understanding cricket?

Without any doubt I can say Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen are holding the transformation of Pakistan T20 team. Teams are nowdays targeting 250+ scores but in Pakistan the openers still don't know what target they have to set when they bat first and how they have to chase while batting 2nd. Shaheen's T20 & test career also seems to be over

 

[Kroll]

And then what bro? Yes the sensible people like us will continue to point it out….but the key decision makers are just not getting this one howling issue right!

Need to vote with our feet bro, look at that smug Rizwan always coming out with the line "the fans love us no matter what" - needs a proper slap down.

 

[JaDed]

They are scumbags this is the real reason after what I witnessed today, scumbags. Scumbag players supported by absolute parasites.

Same team did well in ODI but i think every team is realising the difference in formats now, in T20s Pakistan did well in 2021,2022 and thats why the pathetic performance isn’t being highlighted as needed.
They look out of depth in this format right now.

 

[FearlessRoar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857794695541198925

 

[khyberlion]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857794695541198925

Then change them. What is stopping us from dropping them.

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857794695541198925

What’s the point of this now?

How can you change the approach when you appoint a limited, outdated player as your captain?

I can bump the threads where the mods asked should Rizwan be made captain. 80-90% of people voted yes to this. Now tell me, why complain at this pathetic approach now?

 

[RidiculousMan]

Then change them. What is stopping us from dropping them.

Aqib needs to show the big round two objects and drop RizBar from this format

 

[topspin]

Pakistan will continue to make the same mistakes because the cricketing IQ of our ex-players, analysts and fans is substandard and by far the worst. There's a reason why a better prepared USA team was able to beat Pakistan this year.

Pakistan has itself to blame for letting Misbah captain, coach and select their team over a dozen years. Babar's career was on the ascendency under Mickey Arthur, where he peaked in white ball cricket during the 2019 WC. His regression began after this tournament when Misbah took over from Mickey as Head Coach and Chief Selector.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan hast the lowest strike rate against Australia in Australia in history

Overall figures

Team	Players	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
West Indies	35	2010-2024	8	76	15	1310	71	21.47	963	136.03	0	5	6	115	56
Afghanistan	11	2022-2022	1	9	2	161	48*	23.00	120	134.16	0	0	1	11	8
India	37	2008-2020	12	77	21	1706	90*	30.46	1288	132.45	0	11	6	138	52
England	43	2007-2022	11	102	19	1583	84	19.07	1260	125.63	0	6	6	155	45
Ireland	11	2022-2022	1	11	1	129	71*	12.90	110	117.27	0	1	2	15	3
New Zealand	34	2007-2022	4	33	6	550	92*	20.37	472	116.52	0	3	5	42	22
Sri Lanka	49	2010-2022	15	129	28	2009	84*	19.89	1750	114.80	0	6	10	180	51
South Africa	40	2006-2018	7	59	12	854	78	18.17	754	113.26	0	3	10	77	17
Pakistan	36	2010-2024	6	57	10	657	64	13.97	610	107.70	0	5	11	57	16

 

[shaz619]

Same team did well in ODI but i think every team is realising the difference in formats now, in T20s Pakistan did well in 2021,2022 and thats why the pathetic performance isn’t being highlighted as needed.
They look out of depth in this format right now.

Bro things will unravel in ODI’s as well, it’s too small a sample and am happy to be proven wrong, but I feel Saim & Rauf drove the victory, 3rd ODI had the C team and I’ve never seen the main team so disinterested. These guys don’t have a Plan B and lack basic common sense, a lot of it is driven by selfishness and even for the subcontinent these characters are seriously flawed.

 

[Kianig89]

Some line has to be drawn if Pakistan are to succeed in T20s

Like the suggestion given by ex selector Shahid Afridi only players with SR of 135 to be considered for T20s, a sensible idea hopefully Aqib Javed will take note

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

As soon as Australia scored less than 150 after looking set for a 200 score at one stage, you could see Rizwan and Babar taking their slippers out and settling in for a nice easy knock. Pakistan batsmen will always take the safest option possible, doesn't matter whether it is 50 over or 20 over. It took them something like 8 overs to reach 28 runs and the game was virtually handed to the Aussies by the halfway mark.

 

[Kianig89]

Pakistan will never learn just look at the vice captain in T20s, a 30 year old with a SR of 119. There is no merit in the system

 

[Farabi]

The lack of talent or type of players required are also a issue in Pakistan, hitting in international cricket has evolved unlike blind slogging which our players try to do.

Also our players lack in the technique of hard hitting , players like Klaasen Maxwell they have had that innate ability or have developed the skills to hit long long sixes. None of the recent Pakistan players have that ability.

Those who try have a very low success rate like Asif Ali or AzamKhan.

Every Pakistan fan would love to see the team flourishing at 65/0 in 6 overs. But unfortunately the personnel is not there. Pakistan have tried but they are yet to crack a code. Saim Ayub was given a long rope but no dividends.

The only hope can be selectors should go with the best attacking option from the lotand hope for the best, with coaches working in these players BTS.

Best post on this.
The original poster explains the problem but doesn’t offer any solutions.
Asif Ali, Azam Khan, Sharjeel Khan are not the solution.
The problem is not some vague commodity like “intent”. It’s the skills that the talent lacks, which ensures that some players who can at least hold a bat continue to get the chances.

 

[BouncerGuy]

A bit of game-awareness and courage. Simple
you might lose but people will not criticize you much because you were trying to be a modern-day batter.

But if you keep playing sluggish turtle-like inning, no matter how many runs you score, that won't help.

Getting out first ball has less impact that making 15 off 30 balls in T20s.

 

[zaidihusain]

As soon as Australia scored less than 150 after looking set for a 200 score at one stage, you could see Rizwan and Babar taking their slippers out and settling in for a nice easy knock. Pakistan batsmen will always take the safest option possible, doesn't matter whether it is 50 over or 20 over. It took them something like 8 overs to reach 28 runs and the game was virtually handed to the Aussies by the halfway mark.

That was the most selfish move by Rizwan & Babar and they must be questioned by management. It was clear misutilization of authority due to culture of seniority which still prevails in Pakistan cricket. Just imagine the outrage by their blind fans had they tried new openers, and the team would have lost in such a small chase.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

its all about the skills set which most of the players dont have any so how can we expect them to learn something when they are far away from the basics of Modern day cricket.

 

[Rana]

One laanat batter opts to sit out

Yet Pakistan continue the trend of opening an accumulator at the top of the order.

Let’s never ever learn from our shortcomings!

 

[Kianig89]

Lack of resources it is, there is no Stoinis or Maxwell in Pakistan

 

[shah_1]

Lack of talent in Pakiatan

I was looking at PSL stats, the suitation looks pretty awful for us.

 

[sweep_shot]

Lack of resources it is, there is no Stoinis or Maxwell in Pakistan

Pakistan should do talent hunts in Pashthun regions. They tend to be physically strong and can hit big sixes (i.e., Shahid afridi).

 

[Kaka4pope]

Batting wise, we try and induct 'power hitters' who lack the technique, better off doing trying to copy what India did for a few years and ask, go for a more classic ODI line-up and ask our better technical batsmen to be more aggressive - Babar Saim Abdullah all capable of piercing/going over inner circle during the powerplay.

Bowler wise, Naseem and Shaheen, barring the latter's early in-swingers, lack variation and are very hittable - especially in the powerplay.

I'd go with:

Babar
Abdullah
Saim
Rizwan
????
????
Agha
Jamal
Abbas
Rauf
Sufyan

We have two gaps in the team at 5 and 6, nothing new there - perhaps this is where we test out the 'power hitters' we do have. If one of Shaheen or Naseem are to come back in, it's at 9/10 max in the order and push everyone up one.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Half of the team members are not suited for the T20 format. This includes Babar, Rizwan, Salman Agha, Irfan Khan, Shadab Khan, Abbas Afridi, and Iftikhar.

 

[Ali Active]

Batting wise, we try and induct 'power hitters' who lack the technique, better off doing trying to copy what India did for a few years and ask, go for a more classic ODI line-up and ask our better technical batsmen to be more aggressive - Babar Saim Abdullah all capable of piercing/going over inner circle during the powerplay.

Bowler wise, Naseem and Shaheen, barring the latter's early in-swingers, lack variation and are very hittable - especially in the powerplay.

I'd go with:

Babar
Abdullah
Saim
Rizwan
????
????
Agha
Jamal
Abbas
Rauf
Sufyan

We have two gaps in the team at 5 and 6, nothing new there - perhaps this is where we test out the 'power hitters' we do have. If one of Shaheen or Naseem are to come back in, it's at 9/10 max in the order and push everyone up one.

this is so bad lol

 

[Ali Active]

Saim
Babar
haris
Fakhar
shadab
asif ali
we have so much t20 batting lol
and people going for accumaltors dont know how t20 works

 

[Vikram1989]

In any match , I really want pak to be named as opponents name say "Aus" and opponent as "pak" to test it out.I really think it's the mandatory habit of not learning/not willing to learn ,practice ,think if Ur team name is u know whom.

 

[Rana]

Batting wise, we try and induct 'power hitters' who lack the technique, better off doing trying to copy what India did for a few years and ask, go for a more classic ODI line-up and ask our better technical batsmen to be more aggressive - Babar Saim Abdullah all capable of piercing/going over inner circle during the powerplay.

Bowler wise, Naseem and Shaheen, barring the latter's early in-swingers, lack variation and are very hittable - especially in the powerplay.

I'd go with:

Babar
Abdullah
Saim
Rizwan
????
????
Agha
Jamal
Abbas
Rauf
Sufyan

We have two gaps in the team at 5 and 6, nothing new there - perhaps this is where we test out the 'power hitters' we do have. If one of Shaheen or Naseem are to come back in, it's at 9/10 max in the order and push everyone up one.

Add Shan Masood and Fawad Alam

Your dream team sorted

 

[khyberlion]

this is so bad lol

It's far better than having Abbas Afridi at 7, not that I am advocating for this team.

 

[khyberlion]

Add Shan Masood and Fawad Alam

Your dream team sorted

What will be your ideal 11?

 

[Rana]

What will be your ideal 11?

I really don’t care anymore

I’m more than happy to let this insanity that has been prevailing in the PCB to continue. I have a sadistic taste now to watch Pakistan cricket destroying itself.

Pakistan cricket is not the cricket I should have ever subscribed emotionally to.

 

[khyberlion]

I really don’t care anymore

I’m more than happy to let this insanity that has been prevailing in the PCB to continue. I have a sadistic taste now to watch Pakistan cricket destroying itself.

Pakistan cricket is not the cricket I should have ever subscribed emotionally to.

We won't improve till we get honest people from top to bottom. Unfortunately I don't see that happening and it's only going to get worse.

 

[Devadwal]

Basit ali - This( Last T20 against Australia) might be Babar Azam last T20 match.

Tanveer Ahmed - Babar Azam ko team se nikalne ki sochna mat wrna 50 runs pe team allout ho jayegi

@Rana

 

[jnaveen1980]

Openers for Pakistan in 2024. Just 2 players tested



Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
Mohammad Rizwan	14	14	2	403	90*	33.58	335	120.29	0	3	2	29	15
Babar Azam	9	8	0	218	69	27.25	153	142.48	0	1	0	25	4
Saim Ayub	14	13	0	180	45	13.84	141	127.65	0	0	0	21	10
Sahibzada Farhan	2	2	0	17	9	8.50	11	154.54	0	0	0	3	0
Haseebullah Khan	1	1	0	0	0	0.00	3	0.00	0	0	1	0	0

 

[jnaveen1980]

Openers strike rate against regular test playing nations in 2024 (min 100 balls)


Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
SV Samson (IND)	8	8	1	366	111	52.28	185	197.83	3	0	3	32	27
Abhishek Sharma (IND)	9	9	0	232	100	25.77	129	179.84	1	1	1	20	18
FH Allen (NZ)	10	10	0	352	137	35.20	197	178.68	1	1	1	25	31
TM Head (AUS)	9	9	0	333	76	37.00	189	176.19	0	2	1	36	22
SD Hope (WI)	7	7	2	206	54	41.20	119	173.10	0	2	1	16	14
YBK Jaiswal (IND)	8	8	1	293	93*	41.85	170	172.35	0	2	0	32	16
PD Salt (ENG)	13	12	2	419	103*	41.90	252	166.26	1	2	1	40	23
RG Sharma (IND)	10	10	2	375	121*	46.87	230	163.04	1	3	2	35	23
DA Warner (AUS)	8	8	1	306	81	43.71	189	161.90	0	3	0	33	15
J Charles (WI)	9	9	0	228	69	25.33	148	154.05	0	1	1	29	11
E Lewis (WI)	8	8	1	178	68	25.42	117	152.13	0	2	1	17	13
HG Munsey (SCOT)	6	6	1	160	41*	32.00	108	148.14	0	0	0	11	13
JC Buttler (ENG)	6	6	0	230	84	38.33	157	146.49	0	1	0	27	6
BA King (WI)	13	13	1	351	79	29.25	240	146.25	0	3	0	37	18
Babar Azam (PAK)	9	8	0	218	69	27.25	153	142.48	0	1	0	25	4
RD Rickelton (SA)	9	9	0	218	76	24.22	155	140.64	0	1	0	13	16
Q de Kock (SA)	9	9	0	223	65	24.77	159	140.25	0	1	0	21	12
P Nissanka (SL)	16	16	2	495	79	35.35	359	137.88	0	4	0	69	11
RR Hendricks (SA)	17	17	1	387	87	24.18	282	137.23	0	3	3	39	18
Shubman Gill (IND)	8	8	1	266	66	38.00	200	133.00	0	2	0	34	6
WG Jacks (ENG)	7	6	0	130	38	21.66	101	128.71	0	0	0	10	5
Saim Ayub (PAK)	14	13	0	180	45	13.84	141	127.65	0	0	0	21	10
BKG Mendis (SL)	19	19	1	526	86	29.22	415	126.74	0	3	1	51	20
PR Stirling (IRE)	9	9	0	129	52	14.33	104	124.03	0	1	0	17	3
Rahmanullah Gurbaz (AFG)	14	14	0	373	80	26.64	305	122.29	0	4	3	27	19
A Balbirnie (IRE)	8	8	0	209	77	26.12	172	121.51	0	1	1	23	8
Mohammad Rizwan (PAK)	14	14	2	403	90*	33.58	335	120.29	0	3	2	29	15

 

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Openers strike rate against regular test playing nations in 2024 (min 100 balls)


Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
SV Samson (IND)	8	8	1	366	111	52.28	185	197.83	3	0	3	32	27
Abhishek Sharma (IND)	9	9	0	232	100	25.77	129	179.84	1	1	1	20	18
FH Allen (NZ)	10	10	0	352	137	35.20	197	178.68	1	1	1	25	31
TM Head (AUS)	9	9	0	333	76	37.00	189	176.19	0	2	1	36	22
SD Hope (WI)	7	7	2	206	54	41.20	119	173.10	0	2	1	16	14
YBK Jaiswal (IND)	8	8	1	293	93*	41.85	170	172.35	0	2	0	32	16
PD Salt (ENG)	13	12	2	419	103*	41.90	252	166.26	1	2	1	40	23
RG Sharma (IND)	10	10	2	375	121*	46.87	230	163.04	1	3	2	35	23
DA Warner (AUS)	8	8	1	306	81	43.71	189	161.90	0	3	0	33	15
J Charles (WI)	9	9	0	228	69	25.33	148	154.05	0	1	1	29	11
E Lewis (WI)	8	8	1	178	68	25.42	117	152.13	0	2	1	17	13
HG Munsey (SCOT)	6	6	1	160	41*	32.00	108	148.14	0	0	0	11	13
JC Buttler (ENG)	6	6	0	230	84	38.33	157	146.49	0	1	0	27	6
BA King (WI)	13	13	1	351	79	29.25	240	146.25	0	3	0	37	18
Babar Azam (PAK)	9	8	0	218	69	27.25	153	142.48	0	1	0	25	4
RD Rickelton (SA)	9	9	0	218	76	24.22	155	140.64	0	1	0	13	16
Q de Kock (SA)	9	9	0	223	65	24.77	159	140.25	0	1	0	21	12
P Nissanka (SL)	16	16	2	495	79	35.35	359	137.88	0	4	0	69	11
RR Hendricks (SA)	17	17	1	387	87	24.18	282	137.23	0	3	3	39	18
Shubman Gill (IND)	8	8	1	266	66	38.00	200	133.00	0	2	0	34	6
WG Jacks (ENG)	7	6	0	130	38	21.66	101	128.71	0	0	0	10	5
Saim Ayub (PAK)	14	13	0	180	45	13.84	141	127.65	0	0	0	21	10
BKG Mendis (SL)	19	19	1	526	86	29.22	415	126.74	0	3	1	51	20
PR Stirling (IRE)	9	9	0	129	52	14.33	104	124.03	0	1	0	17	3
Rahmanullah Gurbaz (AFG)	14	14	0	373	80	26.64	305	122.29	0	4	3	27	19
A Balbirnie (IRE)	8	8	0	209	77	26.12	172	121.51	0	1	1	23	8
Mohammad Rizwan (PAK)	14	14	2	403	90*	33.58	335	120.29	0	3	2	29	15

Middle order is the biggest issue, no.4 & no.5 are complete wreckage