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What's stopping the team management from playing Faheem Ashraf?

JibranAnsari

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Share 10 overs between hafeez and faheem , drop imad. Faheem is a fresh face and can hit it big , he might go for 8 an over but in the end can add valueable quick runs. We all were certain about him playing against india after his warmup performance but 'out of box ' thinking kept him out and even after humiliating defeat he is still out of 11. Cant really understand how pakistan team management works.
 
If he flourishes he might end Imad's career who is captain's and coach's poster boy.
 
i dont see any reason to replace imad. this is how we mess up young players, because we dont have the confidence to drop the seniors.
to answer your question. Fahim is an all-rounder (i think?). so he should play instead of hafeez or malik. but if your selectors give you a team where the frontline batsmen are supposedly malik, hafeez, shehzad, azhar its difficult to drop them to play another all-rounder.
 
Maybe they think Ashraf is another Zia, Mohmand, Shahzaib Hasan, I don't know.
 
i dont see any reason to replace imad. this is how we mess up young players, because we dont have the confidence to drop the seniors.
to answer your question. Fahim is an all-rounder (i think?). so he should play instead of hafeez or malik. but if your selectors give you a team where the frontline batsmen are supposedly malik, hafeez, shehzad, azhar its difficult to drop them to play another all-rounder.

+1 to this. Faheem should play in place of nakli professor.
 
We must drop Imad Wasim and play Faheem Ashraf.


SA won't be troubled by dart machine. Not only that but He will be expensive too.

Faheem at max will got for 7 RPO and will take a wicket or two aswell.
 
Too aggressive of a batsman for Mickey Arthur and Sarfraz Ahmed.
 
We should groom Fahim Ashraf so that he can we vital in Australian, English pitches.
Imad Wasim should be our man in UAE.

Imad should not be criticized bcoz he is young and has a future ahead. Yes he bowled poor, lets support him so that he can recover.
 
We should groom Fahim Ashraf so that he can we vital in Australian, English pitches.
Imad Wasim should be our man in UAE.

Imad should not be criticized bcoz he is young and has a future ahead. Yes he bowled poor, lets support him so that he can recover.

He is almost thirty :salute
 
Maybe they think Ashraf is another Zia, Mohmand, Shahzaib Hasan, I don't know.

Then, why was he selected in XV?

May be limited talent pool - no other options available for Ul Haq, but to put Ahmed, Azhar & MoHa in top 4 & then pick Wahab for his pace ........
 
I think Imad will be fine against SA. Fahim should come in for Hafeez because without his bowling, Hafeez is nothing.
 
fahim ashraf hs not even debuted, we already have too many inexpereinced players and one more will add icing to the cake

it will be much more easy to blame sarfraz then

since unlike favourite youngersters who cant be criticized and 'need' time to adjust, the senior players can be accounted for their game
 
I think Imad will be fine against SA. Fahim should come in for Hafeez because without his bowling, Hafeez is nothing.

I agree, Imad is rubbish but we might get away with him against SA. The real dumb move was to play him against India who are renowned for being good players of slow bowling.
 
fahim ashraf hs not even debuted, we already have too many inexpereinced players and one more will add icing to the cake

it will be much more easy to blame sarfraz then

since unlike favourite youngersters who cant be criticized and 'need' time to adjust, the senior players can be accounted for their game

Yeah we are world beater with all these experienced players.
 
I think Imad will be fine against SA. Fahim should come in for Hafeez because without his bowling, Hafeez is nothing.

So far, PAK's last 4 scores in CT is between 161 to 170 - if, it doesn't change in next 2 matches - MoHa will lead PAK against SRL, come November. The stage is set - just 2 more matches in this ICC event, & he'll be able to "bowl" for 2 years before next WC.

I wonder, why no one can see that he is backed by every one - his Captain, Coach, Manager, Selector, Board Chairman, Media, Former players ................. even Mian Sharif. PP is a spoiled brat - doesn't matter what is written here.
 
Share 10 overs between hafeez and faheem , drop imad. Faheem is a fresh face and can hit it big , he might go for 8 an over but in the end can add valueable quick runs. We all were certain about him playing against india after his warmup performance but 'out of box ' thinking kept him out and even after humiliating defeat he is still out of 11. Cant really understand how pakistan team management works.

SA traditionally struggle agaisnt spin and they havent played Imad Wasim yet. Fahim is a good future prospect but in this match if he is to play than he could only have replaced a batsman which wouldnt have been a good move as he is a good hitter of the ball but not a proper batsman.

Further Fakhar Zaman is already debuting, it would be a very big call to make two players debut against SA in such a big tournument.
 
SA traditionally struggle agaisnt spin and they havent played Imad Wasim yet. Fahim is a good future prospect but in this match if he is to play than he could only have replaced a batsman which wouldnt have been a good move as he is a good hitter of the ball but not a proper batsman.

Further Fakhar Zaman is already debuting, it would be a very big call to make two players debut against SA in such a big tournument.

High Risk High Return. Either way, What are we winning with these old duds?
 
Play him against Sri Lanka. Would be a good test run and Pakistan will likely be out of the tournament by then. If Pakistan do infact get eliminated after next game both Haris and Fahim should play aginst SL.
 
So far, PAK's last 4 scores in CT is between 161 to 170 - if, it doesn't change in next 2 matches - MoHa will lead PAK against SRL, come November. The stage is set - just 2 more matches in this ICC event, & he'll be able to "bowl" for 2 years before next WC.

I wonder, why no one can see that he is backed by every one - his Captain, Coach, Manager, Selector, Board Chairman, Media, Former players ................. even Mian Sharif. PP is a spoiled brat - doesn't matter what is written here.

You are right. I am accepting this theory now
 
Yeah we are world beater with all these experienced players.

definitely, trusted experienced players would have controlled onslaught in the last four - five overs which made the entire difference

one cannot just simply debut at the champions trophy, things dont work like this
 
I agree he should play tomorrow instead of Imad
 
No way to dropping Imad. But it's stupid to not play him over Hafeez.

Also what is stopping the team from playing Haris Sohail??
 
He should just get a game for saving face against the Bangalis. Itna toh larkay nay earn kia hai.
 
Begairti , Do you guys still thibk we can beat South Africa with this lullu team? If so phir ap logon ka b Allah hi hafiz hai

Yes we dont have a strong team at the moment but we have few individuals who can may be win us a match on their day.

1) Babar Azam (By scoring a quick century): we all know he can do that
2) Mohammad Amir (Taking 3-4 wickets of the top order): Its not like he never did that before
3) Junaid Khan (Taking 3-4 wickets of the top order): We all remember series vs India in 2012 and even performed pretty well in SA vs Pak in SA where we win 2-1.
4) Shadab Khan (Bamboozling the batsmen with his googly and leg spin): Yes has only played few games and performance has only been agianst Westindies, but even in the last match Kohli wasnt picking his googly comfortably).
5) Sarfaraz and Malik can do it but need to play at 4 and 5, at their current positions its highly unlikely as the game is already built or destroyed by the time they come at the crease).
6) Imad (Finishing the middle or top order (If opening the bowling! Ahm Ahm): but they haven't played him previously so you never know.
7) And the Dark Horse Fakhar Zaman (Scoring a century showing the world of his arrival): This guy has got some natural talent and his game is not inspired by anyone, is in good form so fingers crossed)
 
fahim ashraf hs not even debuted, we already have too many inexpereinced players and one more will add icing to the cake

it will be much more easy to blame sarfraz then

since unlike favourite youngersters who cant be criticized and 'need' time to adjust, the senior players can be accounted for their game

Much better to lose with a team of youngsters that are teachable than "senior" players that embarrass their country year after year
 
Yes we dont have a strong team at the moment but we have few individuals who can may be win us a match on their day.

1) Babar Azam (By scoring a quick century): we all know he can do that
2) Mohammad Amir (Taking 3-4 wickets of the top order): Its not like he never did that before
3) Junaid Khan (Taking 3-4 wickets of the top order): We all remember series vs India in 2012 and even performed pretty well in SA vs Pak in SA where we win 2-1.
4) Shadab Khan (Bamboozling the batsmen with his googly and leg spin): Yes has only played few games and performance has only been agianst Westindies, but even in the last match Kohli wasnt picking his googly comfortably).
5) Sarfaraz and Malik can do it but need to play at 4 and 5, at their current positions its highly unlikely as the game is already built or destroyed by the time they come at the crease).
6) Imad (Finishing the middle or top order (If opening the bowling! Ahm Ahm): but they haven't played him previously so you never know.
7) And the Dark Horse Fakhar Zaman (Scoring a century showing the world of his arrival): This guy has got some natural talent and his game is not inspired by anyone, is in good form so fingers crossed)

Wow. Lots of macthwinners in the team.
 
Repalce Imad with Harris Sohail and replace Junaid with Faheem. That's the only way to score more than 300. Fakhar Zaman bowls betters dats than Imad, Harris is also left arm spinner, so why to play Imad. Junaid will be as bad as Wahab against SA. If we don't have strong bowling atleast make batting strong and use all rounders (Hafeez, Malik, Fakhar, Harris) to cover bowling. Junaid and Imad are neither good bowlers nor batsman, pure liabilities.
 
Pakistan team is not bad but the selection of final XI is poor. Their are 4 liabilities with full potential to lose any match for Pakistan;
Imad
Junaid
Shehzad
Wahab
 
See everyone jumping on the Fahim Ashraf bandwagon after the India loss. Honestly I wanted him in the XI against India only if he performed in the warm up against Australia which was subsequently rained off. That kinda messed us up a bit as Fakhar and others didn't get a go to fight for a spot. Fahim seems like he would go at 8 an over, which is one factor against him. Also he has only had one big innings against Bangladesh bowling line up which is good but not the same quality as Indias or South Africa's. We will never know if he would have been able to perform against these sides. If Fahim is too come in it has to be for Imad, Hafeez plays more as a batting all rounder, whereas Imad is the bowling all rounder, so we can't really weaken our batting anymore. That said Hafeez isn't great with the bat- should be moved to number 6 or dropped for Haris. Ultimately Pakistan has to make some big decisions to move forward now
 
Hehehe Fahim Ashraf, the same nervous wreck that dropped Kohli in last match? Yeah he would do wonders, his mistake cost Pakistan like a 100+ runs on 5-6 overs rofl. He is a Lahore player they will never push his debut against a top 3 team unless he is a good bowler.
 
No way to dropping Imad. But it's stupid to not play him over Hafeez.

Also what is stopping the team from playing Haris Sohail??

What did I say? Ya'll don't know talent when you keep saying drop Imad. One of our best players.
 
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