Who can fill the crucial number six batting position for Pakistan in ODIs?

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

Who do you think will serve pak good in ODI's at no. Six among domestic performers...pls give your honest thoughts and exclude the current ones and those who had given chances but failed.....for example Sohaib Maqsood.
Regards

 

[Madplayer]

Shadab can bat at six i think. Dont think there is any other player of note who can do the job. Maybe amir yamin.

 

[Bilal7]

The contenders: Akmal, Maqsood, Rizwan, Hammad, Sarfaraz, Malik, Imad and Hafeez.

Realistically, it's going to be Akmal, if Malik bats at four or five or Malik, if Akmal bats at four or five. I'd personally want Malik to bat at #6, Sarfaraz at #5 and Akmal at #4.

 

[Rayyman]

Umar Akmal is too unfit for a professional athlete. With the emergence of Shadab Khan, Pakistan have the luxury to field a few all-rounders in the side.

I want to see a lower-middle-order of:

5. Sarfraz Ahmed*+
6. Imad Wasim
7. Shadab Khan
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Hasan Ali

Yes, Amir and Riaz are bowlers, but the coaching staff should give them responsibility to step it up. Imad and Shadab are genuine all-rounders and expect them to blossom at these positions. Not only is this a good batting lineup, it is an excellent bowling line-up.

 

[arehaan]

My team for Odis will be.

1. Ahmed Shehzad ( Surely will take Sharjeel Khans place)
2. Kamran Akmal / Asad Shafiq / Azahar Ali / Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfraz A.
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Harris Sohail
7. Shadab Khan
8. Amir Yamin
9. Imad Wasim
10. Mohammed Amir / Wahab Riaz
11. Hassan Ali

This will give you the added finishers in Shadab, Yamin and Wasim

 

[NauV]

Great thread! This right here is for me the biggest reason we are struggling in ODIs . .

Number 6 in ODIs is equivalent to a number 3 in tests for me . .

This is where you need to have the ability to finish games/win games/finish innings . .

You need to be able to consolidate and accelerate . .

Given the talent we have, for me Imad is the best option for number 6 . . he needs to be given the same confidence as Ben Stokes for given . . I am not for a second suggesting that Imad is as good as Ben . . However, I have seen Imad play some good innings without slogging and with a straight bat . . If he is given enough confidence, I am positive he can do a decent job at it . .

Aamir Yamin and Shadab Khan would make up my number 7 and 8 . .

 

[Red Devil]

Umar Akmal is too unfit for a professional athlete. With the emergence of Shadab Khan, Pakistan have the luxury to field a few all-rounders in the side.

I want to see a lower-middle-order of:

5. Sarfraz Ahmed*+
6. Imad Wasim
7. Shadab Khan
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Hasan Ali

Yes, Amir and Riaz are bowlers, but the coaching staff should give them responsibility to step it up. Imad and Shadab are genuine all-rounders and expect them to blossom at these positions. Not only is this a good batting lineup, it is an excellent bowling line-up.

Sarfraz Ahmed shouldn't be anywhere near the lower order.

 

[o_ahsan99]

The sample size is extremely small but Talat Hussain seems like a good player to me. Stronly built young guy who maintains a good balance and does not blindly slog over mid wicket. He should be given a chance at number 6, with Imad at 7 and Shadab 8 followed by Sohail Khan, M. Amir and Hasan Ali. Sohail can be floated between 7 to 9 and used as a pinch hitter.

 

[todfod 11]

My team for Odis will be.

1. Ahmed Shehzad ( Surely will take Sharjeel Khans place)
2. Kamran Akmal / Asad Shafiq / Azahar Ali / Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfraz A.
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Harris Sohail
7. Shadab Khan
8. Amir Yamin
9. Imad Wasim
10. Mohammed Amir / Wahab Riaz
11. Hassan Ali

This will give you the added finishers in Shadab, Yamin and Wasim

harris sohail at 6?? haha funny.. guy cannot hit outside 30 yard circle.. u want him at 6.

 

[Mobashir]

My XI:
Fakhar Zaman
Sarfraz Ahmad/ Shoaib Malik
Babar Azam
Harris Sohail
Umar Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmad/ Shoaib Malik
Shadab Khan
Mohammad Amir
Sohail Khan
Hassan Ali
Usama Mir/Yasir Shah

 

[todfod 11]

my team would be

Fakhar ( with license to hit)
azhar/ shehzad ( both are same standard) lack of choice sadly
babar
malik
talat
akmal
sarfaraz
amir yamin/ anwar ali
imad
amir
wahab

 

[Yatoo]

1: Fakhar Zaman
2: Babar
3: Sirfaraz
4: Malik
5: Imad
6: Shadab
7: Amir Yameen
8: Hassan Ali
9: Amir
10: Wahab
11: Yasir Shah

 

[Kashmiri_Pak_fan]

Actually i was making an odi 11 for windies and i placed all allrounder's below 6 as i want genuine batsman at six so please suggest names of proper batsmen and remember don't suggest tested players

 

[arehaan]

harris sohail at 6?? haha funny.. guy cannot hit outside 30 yard circle.. u want him at 6.

You dont need him as a hitter with Shadab Khan, Amir Yamin and Imad Wasim to do that. He can be more of a floater depending on game situation but someone who can hold one end. Its more about method than madness

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Umar Akmal or Shoaib Malik but one of Shadab and Imad can also be tried.

 

[Seamer]

CT and carribean tour:

1. Shehzad
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Zaman
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz
6. Hussain Talat
7. Shadab Khan
8. Imad Wasim
9. Sohail Khan
10. Amir
11. Hassan Ali

12. Umar Akmal
13. Wahab Riaz
14. Usama Mir
15. Yamin

 

[Kitchlew]

Doesn't matter how good or bad umar akmal is, but he is still the best late middle order batsman Pakistan has. People who think that imad or sarfraz are big hitters(can score 10+ runs in last ten overs) against fast bowlers are plain simple wrong.

 

[todfod 11]

You dont need him as a hitter with Shadab Khan, Amir Yamin and Imad Wasim to do that. He can be more of a floater depending on game situation but someone who can hold one end. Its more about method than madness

how many floaters you need in a team?? its already full of accumalators.. Imad and Shadab are a hit and miss anyways.. then you will complain about batting collaspe and not getting enough runs in final overs.. Harris is physically too weak you should try and meet that guy and you will know what I m talking about.

 

[arehaan]

how many floaters you need in a team?? its already full of accumalators.. Imad and Shadab are a hit and miss anyways.. then you will complain about batting collaspe and not getting enough runs in final overs.. Harris is physically too weak you should try and meet that guy and you will know what I m talking about.

The fact is there isnt any better talent on show at the moment so got to make most of what is available. Players like Akmal, Hafeez, Maqsood are not scoring at domestic level how can we expect them to do any better. Atleast with Harris you will get someone who has proven to be relatively consistent. Moreover he is no slouch and can clear the boundary its just a matter of getting some match practice.

 

[ads101]

no.6 isn't a crucial role. Most good teams make runs up front, in the top four.

Ideally our least important batsman in the side should be batting at 6. If you're performing well, you should be batting higher up.

So yeah whoever is the worst batsman out of the 6 we play should bat at 6. The only exception if you have someone like Dhoni who thrives in this position but we don't.

 

[world cup captain]

harris sohail at 6?? haha funny.. guy cannot hit outside 30 yard circle.. u want him at 6.

my team would be

Fakhar ( with license to hit)
azhar/ shehzad ( both are same standard) lack of choice sadly
babar
malik
talat
akmal
sarfaraz
amir yamin/ anwar ali
imad
amir
wahab

But Sarfraz can bat at number 7? A bit of hypocrisy don't you think?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

The sample size is extremely small but Talat Hussain seems like a good player to me. Stronly built young guy who maintains a good balance and does not blindly slog over mid wicket. He should be given a chance at number 6, with Imad at 7 and Shadab 8 followed by Sohail Khan, M. Amir and Hasan Ali. Sohail can be floated between 7 to 9 and used as a pinch hitter.

Glad i'm not the only one to consider this

Yes it is a risk especially since Talat plays in the top order in domestic but I belive it can work if he himself commits to it. Which he really should because spots 3 -5 are set in stone ( Babar, Sarfraz, Malik)

now why can Talat exceed at 6.

1. Kid appears to have good game awarness, he targets gaps, and has already shown to be a good player of spin

2. Seems very good by Pakistani standards at rotating strike, and is dynamtie in between the wickets, extremely quick, though he will need to temper his eagerness

3. The biggest unkown about him thus far is how does he play pace? Namely can he hit out against Pace? Despite not seeing this yet I have hope, why ? Because Talat has a pretty good 4 to 6 ratio in Domestic Cricket.. In 24 List As he has hit 20 6s, compared to 72 4s. Not earthshattering but great by Pakistani stanadards. In t20s he has hit 12 sixes from 18 innings, compared to 25 fours. That suggests he is good at clearing the ropes, so here hoping he can do it against pacers.

4. We have little options. I have defended Umar mainly due to lack of alternatives, and i would still want him selected for WI, but his horror show in the PSL tells me this more blind hope than anything else. We need an alternative. Maqsood is having a shocker. Rizwan isnt good enough in terms of big hitting (though he has time to improve). Shadab i feel can eventually play at 6, but it may be too soon for him there. Hammad is nowhere near selection. That leaves Yamin and Talat, and i want both selected, but i feel Talat has the higher ceiling, he also hits more 6s

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

no.6 isn't a crucial role. Most good teams make runs up front, in the top four.

Ideally our least important batsman in the side should be batting at 6. If you're performing well, you should be batting higher up.

So yeah whoever is the worst batsman out of the 6 we play should bat at 6. The only exception if you have someone like Dhoni who thrives in this position but we don't.

I think you need a dasher now at 6, all the teams have one, be it Maxwell, Miller, Butler so on. While we have no one of that quality, we cant resign our selves with plodders, they do more harm than good.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

The sample size is extremely small but Talat Hussain seems like a good player to me. Stronly built young guy who maintains a good balance and does not blindly slog over mid wicket. He should be given a chance at number 6, with Imad at 7 and Shadab 8 followed by Sohail Khan, M. Amir and Hasan Ali. Sohail can be floated between 7 to 9 and used as a pinch hitter.

he bats at no.3 in domestics and also in PSL batting ahead of Haddin, MISBAH and Watso.. Anyhow im yet to see him bat against pace... why should he bat at no.6 and u want other players to bat ahead of him.. i see the only player who can bat above him is Babar azam at the moment...

 

[Arsalan Pro]

I think you need a dasher now at 6, all the teams have one, be it Maxwell, Miller, Butler so on. While we have no one of that quality, we cant resign our selves with plodders, they do more harm than good.

What about Umar or Kamran as a dasher?

 

[Greenstorm]

1. Umar Akmal
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfaraz Ahmed
5. Talat Hussain
6. Shadab Khan
7. Amir Yamin
8. Hassan Ali
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Usama Mir


Hammad Azam
Shoaib Malik
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Asghar

 

[Arsalan Pro]

1. Umar Akmal
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfaraz Ahmed
5. Talat Hussain
6. Shadab Khan
7. Amir Yamin
8. Hassan Ali
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Usama Mir


Hammad Azam
Shoaib Malik
Junaid Khan
Mohammad Asghar

Good team, but i would have Imad there in place of Usama as both shadab and usama are leg-spinners.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

The name is Shadab Khan

 

[todfod 11]

The fact is there isnt any better talent on show at the moment so got to make most of what is available. Players like Akmal, Hafeez, Maqsood are not scoring at domestic level how can we expect them to do any better. Atleast with Harris you will get someone who has proven to be relatively consistent. Moreover he is no slouch and can clear the boundary its just a matter of getting some match practice.

if I have to play harris i would rather play him at 3 or 4 not not any later then that..I have never said he is not a good batsmen but what I m saying he is not good enough to clear the boundary as much as required by todays cricket.

 

[todfod 11]

But Sarfraz can bat at number 7? A bit of hypocrisy don't you think?

Dhoni has batted at 6 or 7 most of his career.. And looking at Pakistan performance in recent past.. sarafaraz even batting at 7 might have to come around 35 th over of the match. other place i would make him bat would be opening. but only in subcontinent pitches.

 

[Mamoon]

Whether we admit it or not, Afridi is still the most high impact slogger in the country.

 

[usmanraheel]

Dhoni has batted at 6 or 7 most of his career.. And looking at Pakistan performance in recent past.. sarafaraz even batting at 7 might have to come around 35 th over of the match. other place i would make him bat would be opening. but only in subcontinent pitches.

BUT Dhoni is miles ahead of Sarfaraz when it comes to powering the ball, slogging, etc.

 

[asma_cricfan]

there are many players:
shadab
talat
fakhar
hasan
yamin

but no akmals. even anwar ali is better than umar when it comes to pinch hitting.

 

[world cup captain]

Dhoni has batted at 6 or 7 most of his career.. And looking at Pakistan performance in recent past.. sarafaraz even batting at 7 might have to come around 35 th over of the match. other place i would make him bat would be opening. but only in subcontinent pitches.

Dhoni is known for his power hitting. He is one of the all time great finishers of the game where as Sarfraz isn't any where near the best in Pakistan.

He shouldn't and can't bat below number 5. His game is suited to come in and accumulate runs, not smash boundaries which 6 and 7 need to do.

 

[Rayyman]

Whether we admit it or not, Afridi is still the most high impact slogger in the country.

I agree, but he has said "Khuda-Hafiz" to international cricket.

 

[Justcrazy]

Sarfaraz or Imad wasim .
i would have preffered hammad Azam at 6

 

[todfod 11]

Dhoni is known for his power hitting. He is one of the all time great finishers of the game where as Sarfraz isn't any where near the best in Pakistan.

He shouldn't and can't bat below number 5. His game is suited to come in and accumulate runs, not smash boundaries which 6 and 7 need to do.

but still sarfaraz is better then harris at 6. sarfaraz can hit spinner and not pace bowlers as gud as we all want him to. But when it comes to score quick runs I would still lay my trust in sarfaraz tbh. Also would like to add he is such a dynamic player that he can bat in any position..

 

[todfod 11]

BUT Dhoni is miles ahead of Sarfaraz when it comes to powering the ball, slogging, etc.

Dhoni was a great batsmen... i have no doubts regarding that.. sarfaraz is as gud as you ll get by pakistani domestic structure.. so we gotta work with him..

 

[usmanraheel]

Dhoni was a great batsmen... i have no doubts regarding that.. sarfaraz is as gud as you ll get by pakistani domestic structure.. so we gotta work with him..

I agree, I actually really like Sarfraz as a player. He has a great attitude, but his hitting is below mediocre. I wouldn't want to see him anywhere below the 5th position.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Nabi, Hussain, Nasir, Amad & Yamin should have been batting at number 6 in this tournament.


If one of these has to be picked he should bat at number 6 or atmost 7. Otherwise don't pick to destroy their careers. Team will also get getting from them if they don't bat at 6 or 7.

 

[super hitter]

no.6 can't be fixed

If the match enters a crunch situation after a collapse then you need Safraz-like bat otherwise an aggressive man!

no.6 and no.7 are the positions that can be swapped quite often

 

[Citizen4]

if we had a fair chief selector, he would have selected Yamin he'll fit right in at number 6 right now and can be used as the 4th seamer

 

[MMsheikh2000]

All pakistan need is a number 6

Currently, our team is filled with accumulators and all we need is someone who can clear the fences to think of it. If we get the ideal number 6, someone who can hit big but also has the brain to control himself when needed, our batting can be a lot better. We have the hitter at the top of the order in Zaman (and hopefully Sharjeel is cleared) we have 3 good accumulators in Babar Sarfraz and Malik, who should be 3 4 and 5, so all we are missing is that number 6, who can bat aggressively at a SR of 130-140 in the last 10-20 overs. Are there any options present in the domestic circuit that meet this requirement ?

( I know I haven't mentioned the 2nd opener but not as big an issue in my opinion )