Who should be Pakistan's Test captain after Misbah-ul-Haq?

[Shafi]

Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End

Not really!!! If they wanted they should do it after Bangladesh series (3-0 defeat) if not England series (4-1 defeat). Since we won against 2nd string WI team by 3-0 if we win even 1 match Azhar will be secure until Champion trophy if not World cup 2019. PCB will say "Australia is a great team and playing in their own backyard. We played well"

 

[Shafi]

I think Azhar should be Test Captain after Misbah.

So we can rightfully no. 9 just like ODI

 

[saeed5646]

Reason No 2: if Misbah decide to Take retirement After Aus test series than After that series Pakistan

is going to Lose 5-0 or 4-1 to Aus in Odi series which will bring Azhar ali captaincy to End

Not really!!! If they wanted they should do it after Bangladesh series (3-0 defeat) if not England series (4-1 defeat). Since we won against 2nd string WI team by 3-0 if we win even 1 match Azhar will be secure until Champion trophy if not World cup 2019. PCB will say "Australia is a great team and playing in their own backyard. We played well"

your are right but azhar ali luck as a captain is not good

PSL captaincy going away

Sarfraz impressive captaincy in t20s also his good form in odis

2nd test loss in Nz which was totally unexpected

slow over rate fine in nz test

Shortly if we lose 5-0 to aus in odi series and azhar ali doesn't score decent runs in that series and Sarfraz

scores heavily it would put to end azhar ali odi captaincy and will be doubt for also test captaincy

 

[jeetu]

So we can rightfully no. 9 just like ODI

Azhar should never have been made ODI captain.

 

[Shafi]

Will not be surprise if Inzamam retain Shafiq in ODI squad and bring YK to stabilize middle order

 

[Shafi]

your are right but azhar ali luck as a captain is not good

PSL captaincy going away

Sarfraz impressive captaincy in t20s also his good form in odis

2nd test loss in Nz which was totally unexpected

slow over rate fine in nz test

Shortly if we lose 5-0 to aus in odi series and azhar ali doesn't score decent runs in that series and Sarfraz

scores heavily it would put to end azhar ali odi captaincy and will be doubt for also test captaincy

Bro, never have high hope with PCB. I am seeing this for past 15 years!!!! Bunch of clowns in the office surrounded by yes men

 

[yasir]

It would be much faster if we'd count the positives in his captaincy stint....
Explaining the negatives would require too much time and effort to type in the entire details !!

As I said in another post (same thread), Misbah never got good results in ODI post chucking era. He was never a positive Captain, Azhar would be similar. Both Misbah and Azhar in batting grind hard, which is positive aspect of their game and works well in test not so much in ODI, again for both of them.

In bowling strategies, Misbah slows down the game, dry up run and attack less, even bowlers are not allowed to bowling attacking lengths and given well attacking fielding. This works well in Asia but not of green tops or bouncy surfaces, we are 5-0 on such surfaces, in which Misbah was Captain 4 times. We have lost 3 out of four series on green and bounce conditions, next one does not look very promising either...Azhar was atleast trying to draw the match from improbable situation, thanks to YK and Shafiq that opportunity was lost... Even after 50 test Misbah has pragmatic approach in test, Azhar cannot do worse...

 

[The_Odd_One]

Give test captaincy to Yasir.

Give ODI captaincy to Sarfraz.

Make Babar vice captain in all 3 formats.

 

[sshakir411]

Pretty clear it shouldn't be Azhar. I like the guy but don't think he's cut out to lead the batting order or the team. Sarfaraz should take over in all formats. The longer we delay this the more we will suffer.

 

[Ayesha7]

Pakistan have two options , Sarfraz or Azhar.

Though has expressed his desire to captain pakistan in tests but I don't think its going to happen.

Salamalaykom. Imho Sarfaraz in all three formats in shaa Allah. Captaincy quite clearly isn't Azhar's forte. Sarfaraz is the warrior Pakistan so badly needs. Misbah should groom him well if he surrenders to Shehreyar's suggestion to continue for a couple of years in shaa Allah.

 

[Saj]

No suitable candidate, give the job to Najam Seth as he seems to be running the PCB show.

 

[khurram39]

Azhar Ali is not a logical option as we have already seen in ODI's and last test but we must remember the conditions under which Misbah became the captain at that time he was also not a logical captain and rated throughout his career as a defender. But the credit he has under his belt was man managing, he has no big issues during his captaincy even leg pulling which is very common in Pakistan.

So looking at Azhar Ali we may be able to said the same and PCB is not as matured to preempt the problem and making his plans ahead of this worst thing going to happen.

So I am hoping Azhar Ali will take that magic stick from Misbah but hopeful that will not happen.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Solution is to make Sarfraz captain in all 3 formats and Babar vice captain in all 3 formats. Drop Azhar from ODI captaincy but retain him as a batsman as he's someone who can give us vital runs.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Who will be next Test Captain?

Misbah will retire at the end of this tour. Weak captaincy, lack of vigour and poor on field decisions he will be remembered for on the tour of NZ and OZ. This was the crescendo and what an epic fail.

Misbah's record outside of UAE is poor. Not good enough in the grand scheme of things. Fine we kissed the no.1 spot but for 2 weeks? These tours were supposed to cement our no.1 status. We didn't do that and not even draw.

So moving on, who will be test captain from the next series? I am hedging my bets on Sarfraz taking over in all formats.

It would be nice if someone else could step up? Anyone else out there? If Azhar Ali can be plucked from the void and be made ODI captain then surely this can happen again with someone else?

 

[Barragan]

I'm not that impressed with Sarfraz as a captain, but he is better than Azhar.

Simply put, Sarfraz is ahead of a mediocre bunch atm.

 

[KhalidRafi]

Azhar in Tests with Sarfraz the vice-captain.
Sarfraz in limited-overs with Babar as his deputy.

 

[Noman]

Azhar in Tests with Sarfraz the vice-captain.
Sarfraz in limited-overs with Babar as his deputy.

It does NOT matter WHO captain The Pakistani test teams AS a pak players thinks The same Way. Misbah is rubbish AS captain, But very good at man management! People rating misbah AS captain do NOT understand The Way cricket are should be played

 

[Adijazz1706]

Sarfaraz is the obvious choice, if only he could convert his 30s and 40s into big scores

 

[uberkoen]

Sarfaraz is the obvious choice, if only he could convert his 30s and 40s into big scores

Sarfraz needs to cement his place in the test side first. Does not look likely that he will be given the captaincy owning to his weak performances as of late.

 

[LordJames]

Salman Butt: Captain!

Misbah has to go.

Azhar is just beginning to blossom as an Opener or at Number 3. He is tactically unproven and it may affect his batting it he becomes a Captain.


Sarfaraz will be overloaded if made into a Captain and it will be too much to play 3 formats and Captain 2 formats.

Shafiq is not Captain Material.

Wahab is not Captain Material.

Amir may be but not the sort of guy who can impose himself on the team or opposition

Best Choice is YK as a stop gap Captain.

If not, Butt is our next best choice as Captain, maybe bat down the order.

We really don't have many choices

 

[Syed1]

No


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[LordJames]

No


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Apart from fixing for which he has served his punishment, your counter argument is???

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Misbah has to go.

Azhar is just beginning to blossom as an Opener or at Number 3. He is tactically unproven and it may affect his batting it he becomes a Captain.


Sarfaraz will be overloaded if made into a Captain and it will be too much to play 3 formats and Captain 2 formats.

Shafiq is not Captain Material.

Wahab is not Captain Material.

Amir may be but not the sort of guy who can impose himself on the team or opposition

Best Choice is YK as a stop gap Captain.

If not, Butt is our next best choice as Captain, maybe bat down the order.

We really don't have many choices

Captaincy wise no Pak Int or Domestic player of last 20 years is or was better than him.

" Astute leader "


Young leader in his debut Test Series that too overseas that too with sudden appointment with 5 debutants in his team beat Australia in a Test match. The last Test we won against them.

With a team having commulative 125 Tests experience we beat a team having 500 Tests (England) experience between them in a Test at their home.

First Season as Wapda Captain. First Fc season after 6 yesrs and first QEA Trophy Win for Wapda in 70 years.
He did noy even play QEA final as a player ever. As a player playing final first time and that too as a Captain he scored twin centuries in Final.


Won't happen. Even some teams might threaten not to play Us.


It was a huge loss.

 

[muqarrab]

Groom a captain, should be someone who is guaranteed a place in the 11, right now only azhar has a guarenteed place. Sarfraz has his own bandwagon but before anything else he is an ordinary keeper, and has been for the last 7 years.

 

[coy0607]

Azhar Ali has clearly proven he isn't good enough to be a Captain from his ODI tenure- he's more defensive than Misbah, if thats even possible

Safaraz is really the only option, Younis is not a real option, neither is Babar or Shafiq or any of the bowlers

 

[LordJames]

Azhar Ali has clearly proven he isn't good enough to be a Captain from his ODI tenure- he's more defensive than Misbah, if thats even possible

Safaraz is really the only option, Younis is not a real option, neither is Babar or Shafiq or any of the bowlers

Salman Butt, batting down the order. And he has the Brains to make that switch and play down the order

 

[MMHS]

Misbah has to go.

Azhar is just beginning to blossom as an Opener or at Number 3. He is tactically unproven and it may affect his batting it he becomes a Captain.


Sarfaraz will be overloaded if made into a Captain and it will be too much to play 3 formats and Captain 2 formats.

Shafiq is not Captain Material.

Wahab is not Captain Material.

Amir may be but not the sort of guy who can impose himself on the team or opposition

Best Choice is YK as a stop gap Captain.

If not, Butt is our next best choice as Captain, maybe bat down the order.

We really don't have many choices

Captaincy wise, he is not a bad choice; but we have to look his stats outside AUS.

Till his mid 20s, excluding AUS/NZ - Salman averages around 23 in about 25 innings. If I take out PAK, it comes to below 20 level. That's actually lowest by any PAK specialist batsman with 20+ innings. In fact among WK's probably only Wasim Bari averages lower than him in that filter (Or Moin as well).

If I put a filter of openers with 20+ innings, it's average of 22, which is comfortably lowest - even by same filter MoHa averages 38 & Farhat over 30.

These are shockingly poor numbers for a specialist opener, who was given a run of 30+ Tests & played for a far better batting unit having some of the best middle orders behind him. Butt's career is a mystery, which is inflated by his scores in toughest of opponents AUS (even at Lord's he scored 93 against them !!!!!), but apart from that, he is just a bit better than Saqline, Kumble or Warne. We can give some weightage for being opener, still these are shocking numbers for appointing a Captain, out of game for 6 years & now probably in his mid 30s.

As you said, not best, the only option is YK. PAK's next 15 month's Test schedule is WI, BD, SRL & IND (?) - I can safely say that, in those 12/13 Tests, he'll score at least 1K runs at 50+ average, with couple of hundreds, if not more. Movement is his biggest challenge at this age, but still he is the best player of spin & once set, he can score big. Afart from 2 innings of Azhar, in last 3/4 years, I think every PAK innings of 150+ are scored by him - 175*, 218, 177*, 203, 176, 201*. Once set, almost unmovable object on his suitable condition - which is where PAK is going to play next 10+ Tests. Therefore, for sure, he is not going to struggle to justify his spot in playing XI.

Apart from that, he is well respected; far, far better tactician than Misbah & he actually can operate with 3 pacers or can attack with his spinners to hunt wicket. He won his first Test as Captain against IND without Inzi, won his WC T20 tournament as well. I am sure, he won't have allowed this WI or Methews's SRL to win a Test against this PAK side; neither ENG or BD would have got away with a draw in UAE. His only issue can be man management, but this time he will have full support from his team, unlike last time & from his Board/Coach as well.

For 1.5 years, YK is actually the only option; while PCB can appoint Amir or Babar as his deputy. Putting Azhar or Sarfu as Captain is a backward step & making them Deputy under YK is a blunder.

 

[coy0607]

Salman Butt, batting down the order. And he has the Brains to make that switch and play down the order

I was under the impression that we were talking about realistic options.

If we are talking about fantasy option like Salman Butt, might as well bring back prime Imran Khan to captain

you and I both know Salman Butt isn't going to be made captain of the Pakistani team. Its highly unlikely he even plays for Pakistan again

 

[Shafi]

Misbah is not retiring anytime soon. Once PSL finish he will back in the team. If he wanted to retire he would do after Sydney test.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Salamalaykom. Imho Sarfaraz in all three formats in shaa Allah. Captaincy quite clearly isn't Azhar's forte. Sarfaraz is the warrior Pakistan so badly needs. Misbah should groom him well if he surrenders to Shehreyar's suggestion to continue for a couple of years in shaa Allah.

Wailaikum Salaam. Give your Opinion on :

1. Sarfraz's Captaincy Candidature as of Now

2. PTI's performance in revolution thread you made &

3. Any experiences with God in relevent threads


JazaakAllah

 

[Big Mac]

Misbah is not retiring anytime soon. Once PSL finish he will back in the team. If he wanted to retire he would do after Sydney test.

This is how I feel, the longer he goes without making a decision the more likely it is that he continues.

 

[Seamer]

Younis should be captain for a year with Imad Wasim as his Deputy

 

[aukhan]

We lack options.

If Inzi and Waqar can captain Pakistan after being convicted for fixing then Butt can lead Pakistan in the future as well.

Doubt Sarfraz will become Test captain. Azhar is a good Test batsmen but he is a pathetic choice as captain tbh.

Imad not good enough for Test cricket.

 

[JibranAnsari]

We lack options.

If Inzi and Waqar can captain Pakistan after being convicted for fixing then Butt can lead Pakistan in the future as well.

Doubt Sarfraz will become Test captain. Azhar is a good Test batsmen but he is a pathetic choice as captain tbh.

Imad not good enough for Test cricket.

Butt isn't good enough for tests either , averages barely 30.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

We lack options.

If Inzi and Waqar can captain Pakistan after being convicted for fixing then Butt can lead Pakistan in the future as well.

Doubt Sarfraz will become Test captain. Azhar is a good Test batsmen but he is a pathetic choice as captain tbh.

Imad not good enough for Test cricket.

Inzi and Waqar were never convicted.

 

[aukhan]

Inzi and Waqar were never convicted.

They were in justice qayuum's commission.

 

[aukhan]

Butt isn't good enough for tests either , averages barely 30.

You never know. We play most of our matches in UAE. He can turn things around in Test this time. If he can perform in ODI's then Test return won't be a problem.

 

[JibranAnsari]

You never know. We play most of our matches in UAE. He can turn things around in Test this time. If he can perform in ODI's then Test return won't be a problem.

Another tried and tested failure must return while the new ones burn themselves off in domestic.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Butt isn't good enough for tests either , averages barely 30.

Again bring in a player who hasnt played an international test match for 7 years now and make him the captain... Same like they did with azhar ali and suffering still goes on... Wont be surprised though as Pakistan think tank is the one who never learns from the past or previous mistakes..

 

[Ayesha7]

Wailaikum Salaam. Give your Opinion on :

1. Sarfraz's Captaincy Candidature as of Now

2. PTI's performance in revolution thread you made &

3. Any experiences with God in relevent threads


JazaakAllah

Salamalaykom.

We learn from the cradle to our graves. This goes for religious and worldly matters. Therefore, our opinions and positions on issues should never be stagnant and absolute but be shaped by the facts that unfold before us at every stage of our lives in shaa Allah.

So it is with my last comment regarding idolising Sarfaraz as captain in all three formats. The telling somewhat bitter lessons learnt from the New Zealand and Aussie series carry tell tale signs that cannot be ignored. Sarfaraz did not meet the team's expectations in any enduring way whilst Azhar's performance was responsible and admirable. However, the one day format is another story altogether. Given that Sarfaraz had to depart due to his beloved mom's ill health, only time will tell whether he rises to the challenge or not. I based my previous stance on the way he led his team during PSL. His captaincy that comprised of uniting the team and being a vibrant and tactful leader was indeed commendable and spot on.

Thus I still stand by my very humble gut feeling that Sarfaraz possesses all the ingredients essential to captaincy whilst Azhar comes across as a weak and passive captain in the one day format. I now believe that Azhar would do Pakistan proud as a test captain because the format is his forte and his brilliant performances would help him grow in confidence as a captain in shaa Allah. Sarfaraz should stay put as a T20 captain and be allowed to prove himself worthy as a one day captain. Until and unless he proves himself worthy in shaa Allah I am in no position to opine as that would be folly on my part.

With regards to PTI I still stand by all I wrote on the thread I created alhamdulillah.

Experiences with God are with every beat of the heart and I have not looked into any religion related thread yet, but will do so upon your request and respond only if I have any worthwhile and meaningful contribution to make in shaa Allah.

JazakAllahu khayr for asking me these very pertinent questions!