Who was your choice for the title of Pakistan's ODI Cricketer of the Year 2024?

[FearlessRoar]

The year 2024 was one to celebrate for Pakistan cricket, as they achieved historic milestones in ODIs. They secured a memorable series win against Australia, triumphed in Zimbabwe, and capped it off with a remarkable whitewash against South Africa in their own backyard. Amid these victories, Pakistan unearthed some incredible talents. Saim Ayub impressed with his cool temperament and flawless technique, Shaheen Shah Afridi made a strong return to form, and Salman Ali Agha emerged as a clutch all-rounder.

In your opinion, who deserves the title of Pakistan's ODI Cricketer of the Year for 2024?

 

[FearlessRoar]

My choice is definitely Saim Ayub because he is averaging 64.37 in ODIs in 2024 and has played handy knocks for Pakistan in winning ODI series in Australia and South Africa.

 

[shah9425]

Saim and Rizwan

 

[RidiculousMan]

Salman Ali Agha. Man carried our Test and ODI team when we were about to be down and out. Useful stock bowler as well.

I don't think he's done yet. We might see some late order performances from him in South Africa Test series this year still.

If it's just about ODI format then Saim

 

[Kianig89]

8 odis too small a sample size to select

 

[BouncerGuy]

It should definitely be Saim. No doubts here.

 

[mominsaigol]

Saim easily. No comparison. The kid has 3 centuries + 1 50 on odi and has single handidely won majority of games against aus, zimb and sa

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No brainer, it's Saim "the no look" Ayub

 

[shaz619]

Saim, not just for his average & runs scored, but the pace at which he has scored his runs and the circumstances that have forced him to bite his gum-shield and weather the storm such as:

- Dealing with a useless top order who put Pak’s innings under severe pressure.
- Taking on the burden of giving the innings impetus when his seniors fail to support him.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Maybe Salman Agha?

 

[sweep_shot]

Saim Ayub easily.

 

[Forum363]

It was one series but the way Rauf blew away Australia changed the whole set up. It made everything think that maybe the England test victory was not a fluke / pitch dependant.

For a fast bowler to outplay australia in their own backyard and pakistan to walk away with a series win on the back of that really set up the year for pakistan. And I honestly feel the victory against SA was a continuation of that. So simply for this year ODIs, I would say Rauf.

Whether he starts in the champions trophy games however is debatable.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

It was one series but the way Rauf blew away Australia changed the whole set up. It made everything think that maybe the England test victory was not a fluke / pitch dependant.

For a fast bowler to outplay australia in their own backyard and pakistan to walk away with a series win on the back of that really set up the year for pakistan. And I honestly feel the victory against SA was a continuation of that. So simply for this year ODIs, I would say Rauf.

Whether he starts in the champions trophy games however is debatable.

Haris Rauf is just bang average on flat pitches.

 

[Forum363]

Haris Rauf is just bang average on flat pitches.

Still think his performance makes him ODI player of the year for Pak.

 

[BouncerGuy]

There is no way someone can take this title away from Saim. Just cannot match him here. Saim has been brilliant so far and this year could be his foundation for something big.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Top 5 in 2024 in bowling and batting for Pakistan:

 

[shamaan]

Saim or Salman Ali Agha

 

[Major]

It was a 9 games season? What a joke of a year than.

Saim Ayub did great this year in ODI, but i hope he does similar in T20 and can book his spot once and for all in all formats.

 

[Rana]

but i hope he does similar in T20 and can book his spot once and for all in all formats

What must he do in T20s to book his spot? Otherwise who will take his spot?

 

[Major]

What must he do in T20s to book his spot? Otherwise who will take his spot?

Take his batting avg up to 30. Or else he will get dropped like Mohammad Haris was. in 27 games he has not even cross 500 runs, that is a big concern. Scoring 20 runs per game helps no one, especially if you are playing in the top order as the opposition can easily retain the batting side of Pakistan even if he quick scores a 20 run innings in 10 balls.

Those numbers get covered if opposition bowls well at the death overs. He needs to be scoring atleast 30 runs a game and have better numbers. For reference Kohli avgs 48 in t20 cricket and Miller avgs 33 as he bats in the lower order.

 

[Rana]

Take his batting avg up to 30. Or else he will get dropped like Mohammad Haris was. in 27 games he has not even cross 500 runs, that is a big concern. Scoring 20 runs per game helps no one, especially if you are playing in the top order as the opposition can easily retain the batting side of Pakistan even if he quick scores a 20 run innings in 10 balls.

Those numbers get covered if opposition bowls well at the death overs. He needs to be scoring atleast 30 runs a game and have better numbers. For reference Kohli avgs 48 in t20 cricket and Miller avgs 33 as he bats in the lower order.

Yeah this isn’t 2005. That’s not how the world is operating in T20 cricket.

So if he doesn’t meet your individual standards of what it means to be a T20 player, who takes his place?

 

[Major]

Yeah this isn’t 2005. That’s not how the world is operating in T20 cricket.

So if he doesn’t meet your individual standards of what it means to be a T20 player, who takes his place?

and you ignroed the last line. There are players that have such avgs.

If he will keep on avgiing 20 runs, eventually he will get replaced by someone else. Doesnt matter who i want, the experiment to find someone else to fill in the spot will continue.

 

[Rana]

and you ignroed the last line. There are players that have such avgs.

If he will keep on avgiing 20 runs, eventually he will get replaced by someone else. Doesnt matter who i want, the experiment to find someone else to fill in the spot will continue.

Who are those players? List them.

Those who average 30 and can replace Saim Ayub if he doesn’t average 30.

 

[Major]

Who are those players? List them.

Those who average 30 and can replace Saim Ayub if he doesn’t average 30.

I dont care who the player is to replace him. Your focus is on a player vs player comparison and than turn it to a fan boy thread or us vs against them.

My point is, no matter who the incoming guy is whether its Zaman, Harris or Rizwan, they need to avg 30 while playing international t20 and if they cant they need to be dropped.

Your whole point is that its ok if Saim doesnt perform, because i will bash the person who ever replaces him, bas no one say anything to saim. Thats fan boyism.

 

[Rana]

My point is, no matter who the incoming guy is whether its Zaman, Harris or Rizwan, they need to avg 30 while playing international t20 and if they cant they need to be dropped.

I think your absolutely wrong, and you are making your comments based on an agenda. I’ve known you long enough so I am sure what you are trying to do here.

You’ve made a comment about “there are players that have such averages”, so why are you scared to name those players?

You’ve dug this hole for yourself by trying to be cheeky, now you will have to fill it up.

 

[mominsaigol]

I dont care who the player is to replace him. Your focus is on a player vs player comparison and than turn it to a fan boy thread or us vs against them.

My point is, no matter who the incoming guy is whether its Zaman, Harris or Rizwan, they need to avg 30 while playing international t20 and if they cant they need to be dropped.

Your whole point is that its ok if Saim doesnt perform, because i will bash the person who ever replaces him, bas no one say anything to saim. Thats fan boyism.

T20 is about strike rates. Finn Allen is the living definition of being a gun t20 opener despite averaging 25.

Its Cricket's most inconsistent format. The red flag is having 2 incompetent 120 sr openers at the top.

Rizwan in that sa game was absolutely dreadful 74 of 63 chasing a 180+ score? That was a dreadful innings.

Anyone would take multiple batters scoring 25 of 7 and taking the score to 180-9 then have a scorecard that shows 145-2 at the end of the session.

 

[Major]

I think your absolutely wrong, and you are making your comments based on an agenda. I’ve known you long enough so I am sure what you are trying to do here.

You’ve made a comment about “there are players that have such averages”, so why are you scared to name those players?

You’ve dug this hole for yourself by trying to be cheeky, now you will have to fill it up.

agenda? What agenda will i have bhai? Such a naive thing to say. Typical words thrown by Pakistani journalist, Agenda, Mafia......

If Saim performs i will be happy, but if he doesnt drop him and bring the next guy in no matter whoever that guy is. And if that guy doesnt perform, drop him and bring in the other next guy.

 

[Rana]

agenda? What agenda will i have bhai? Such a naive thing to say. Typical words thrown by Pakistani journalist, Agenda, Mafia......

If Saim performs i will be happy, but if he doesnt drop him and bring the next guy in no matter whoever that guy is. And if that guy doesnt perform, drop him and bring in the other next guy.

There are players that have such avgs.

Just list those players. Why are you beating around the bush?

 

[Major]

T20 is about strike rates. Finn Allen is the living definition of being a gun t20 opener despite averaging 25.

Its Cricket's most inconsistent format. The red flag is having 2 incompetent 120 sr openers at the top.

Rizwan in that sa game was absolutely dreadful 74 of 63 chasing a 180+ score? That was a dreadful innings.

Anyone would take multiple batters scoring 25 of 7 and taking the score to 180-9 then have a scorecard that shows 145-2 at the end of the session.

sir, by hitting a 6 the first ball and getting out on the second ball will get u a srike rate of 300. You still need consisstency and the batting avg shows that consistency. A batting avg of 30 is very low, not that high, if a batsman cant even achieve that than whats the point.

Saim has been given a very long run, he needs to bring that avg up. Currently even Ifti has a batting avg of 24, better than Saim, but everyone knows that Ifti isnt cut out for international cricket.

25 off 7 from an opener doesnt have that much of an impact as it does by someone at no.6. The reason for that is for example Saim score 25 off 7 and Pakistan are crusing 50 runs in 5 overs. That spread can still be covered if the opposition bowls well and gets the team at 140 all out in 20 overs. Meanwhile, if someone scores 25 off 7 in the last 3 overs that is a different story. This is what Afridi used to do.

 

[Major]

Just list those players. Why are you beating around the bush?

doesnt serve the discussion nor does it matter. you just want Saim to continue no matter how inconsisstent he would be

 

[mominsaigol]

sir, by hitting a 6 the first ball and getting out on the second ball will get u a srike rate of 300. You still need consisstency and the batting avg shows that consistency. A batting avg of 30 is very low, not that high, if a batsman cant even achieve that than whats the point.

Saim has been given a very long run, he needs to bring that avg up. Currently even Ifti has a batting avg of 24, better than Saim, but everyone knows that Ifti isnt cut out for international cricket.

25 off 7 from an opener doesnt have that much of an impact as it does by someone at no.6. The reason for that is for example Saim score 25 off 7 and Pakistan are crusing 50 runs in 5 overs. That spread can still be covered if the opposition bowls well and gets the team at 140 all out in 20 overs. Meanwhile, if someone scores 25 off 7 in the last 3 overs that is a different story. This is what Afridi used to do.

So?

Travis head averages 33 in t20 but not a single soul will take any pakistani batter over him?

Finn Allen averahes 24 but once again no franchise would take any Pakistani player over him?

Infact not a single good t20 player besides SKY averages 40 in t20 cricket atm?

A 24 avg player with a 167 sr like finn Allen is a god send, since he's proven that while he's inconsistent, he's capable of scoring rapid fire 50's and 100's when he is onsong and when he does its game over for the opposition.

Pakistan has 2 40+ avg batters at the top with 125 sr's, yet despite having this duo, Pakistan has only beaten a full strength side once inn2024.

The Jan 2024 series exposed Pakistan because it showed that pk was incapable of chasing 226 scores on flat tracks with 180 being their limit. Babar and rizwan couldn't do a damn thing in that series despite maintaining their avg?

 

[Rana]

doesnt serve the discussion nor does it matter. you just want Saim to continue no matter how inconsisstent he would be

So, you are basically bottling it like usual when questioned about your strange white ball cricket views.

Ok let’s try something else, who are those players with ‘averages’ who replace Saim if he isn’t consistent according to your T20 standards?

 

[shaz619]

If Rizwan played for Zimbabwe I’d rate him a lot higher, I’d call him one of the better minnow players in the world today. Kush ?

 

[mango_bite77]

Ayub without any doubt

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm assuming it should be 2025 for most people now? It was 2025 for me hours ago, Anyway.

Happy happy New year to Most if not all PP ers.

I can't ping everyone, but I am wishing everyone a happy 2025.

 

[topspin]

agenda? What agenda will i have bhai? Such a naive thing to say. Typical words thrown by Pakistani journalist, Agenda, Mafia......

If Saim performs i will be happy, but if he doesnt drop him and bring the next guy in no matter whoever that guy is. And if that guy doesnt perform, drop him and bring in the other next guy.

Misbah doesn't approve Saim's brand of cricket, so yes you do have an agenda.

 

[mominsaigol]

2024

T20: No one, it was a dreadful year for pakistan. Pakistan only one once against a full strength side in 2024 in t20. Otherwise they only beat minnows and c string and got smacked by full strength sides. 4-1 defeat vs NZ, 3-0 vs Aus and Sa. Usa defeat was soul crushing.

Odi: Saim ayub 100%, dude has 3 centuries, the highest avg and highest sr out of anyone this year.

Test: Sajid Khan. Tough call between Sajid, Noman, Kamran Ghulam, Agha and Saud shakeel but I'm going with Sajid

Kamran only has one debut century which was a slap in the face for babar fans but otherwise he was nothing special.

Saud has 2 centuries but only eng 3rd test was good. The Bangladesh one was in a road and nothing special. Stats wise he's the best batter even if aus was a fail.

Agha has been the most consistent batter after saud

But it has to be sajid. Noman bowled well but Sajid khan wickets + celebrations + his batting and the iconic nose bleed event made him the most entertaining test cricketer for pakistan this year.