Why are Indian fast bowlers so boring to watch?

[Suleiman]

Nobody is more happy than me that Bumrah is finally doing well, and has put the past behind him, but he is very boring to watch. No intensity, no personality. Then you look at someone like Rabada or even Starc in ODIs and you’re so into their bowling.

It’s not just Bumrah, even in the past India have produced some world class pacers but they have been very bland in terms of bowling style. Zaheer Khan kind of bucked the trend a bit.

Can’t just me be me who has this train of thought. What will it take for India’s fast bowling culture to be revolutionized and we see entertaining pacers with the glow and aura of Kohli and Dhoni types?

 

[Chokli]

bhuvi versus finch was a good contest

bhuvneshwar nips the ball back into the right hander

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Were you a fan of Sreesanth?

 

[GrandMaster]

Among the fast bowlers Sreesanth was a treat to watch, decent pace and good seam position. Among the current lot, Shami does look threatening at times.

 

[BaankeJi]

Nobody is more happy than me that Bumrah is finally doing well, and has put the past behind him, but he is very boring to watch. No intensity, no personality. Then you look at someone like Rabada or even Starc in ODIs and you’re so into their bowling.

It’s not just Bumrah, even in the past India have produced some world class pacers but they have been very bland in terms of bowling style. Zaheer Khan kind of bucked the trend a bit.

Can’t just me be me who has this train of thought. What will it take for India’s fast bowling culture to be revolutionized and we see entertaining pacers with the glow and aura of Kohli and Dhoni types?

I guess I am getting your point. Zaheer was a treat to watch.
I think Bumrah will have swagger as well after he has tasted a bit more of success.

 

[rhony]

Bumrah still seems to be surprised by his own talents. There is no Indian bowler with aggression or swagger after Bhajji.

 

[PakLFC]

They don't have any bowler that can be considered as being exciting. That has always been the case with them.

 

[Zorro]

Who cares, end results matter. McGrath was boring to watch as well.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You have given two examples that are not exactly having any "personality" as well. STarc, Rabada. Atleast if you had said Steyn i would have understood. Anywho you cannot have an arbirtrary definition of "entertainment". In my view Shami, Bumrah all are entertaining bowlers. When in flow they make something happen every ball.

 

[latecut]

The OP may find a pacer like Shoaib Akhtar exciting because he had a thirty meter long run up. Bumrah may not be exciting to him because he only has a spinner like run up of seven yards. It is the result that matters. Bumrah generates nearly the same pace with more accuracy than "exciting" pacers. To result oriented fans, pacers like Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvneshwar Kumar are quite exciting to watch.

 

[Suleiman]

You have given two examples that are not exactly having any "personality" as well. STarc, Rabada. Atleast if you had said Steyn i would have understood. Anywho you cannot have an arbirtrary definition of "entertainment". In my view Shami, Bumrah all are entertaining bowlers. When in flow they make something happen every ball.

What are you talking about? Starc has been making headlines for some time despite a slight dip in recent months, WC 2015 is mainly remembered for his insane bowling and he has personality.

Rabada is revered as the next gen big pacer ever since he was a U19 star, got fast tracked and still bowls with tenacity. Also batsmen are scared of him.

Very one sided post, brother. Have to be more open to suggestions.

 

[ManFan]

Who cares, end results matter. McGrath was boring to watch as well.

This is a myth.

Watching McGrath is far more intriguing than any current pacer operating now.

The box office appeal of a fast bowler is not necessarily speed or aggression but rather the sheer frustration and discomfort they cause the batsmen.

For most batsmen, a bouncer at 150kph is far more frightening than a harmless 130 kph outside off-stump.

But the repetition of the latter can test the greatest of batsmen into making a mistake.

The rap sheet proves it:

Atherton, Lara, Tendulkar, Inzimam, Pieterson, all were troubled by McGrath.

And to deny that they were not amongst the most entertaining bowler versus batsmen contest during their era and perhaps all of cricket, is simply untrue.

 

[jnaveen1980]

What are you talking about? Starc has been making headlines for some time despite a slight dip in recent months, WC 2015 is mainly remembered for his insane bowling and he has personality.

Rabada is revered as the next gen big pacer ever since he was a U19 star, got fast tracked and still bowls with tenacity. Also batsmen are scared of him.

Very one sided post, brother. Have to be more open to suggestions.

Johnson has. Not Starc. he got thrashed and he was meekly walking back to the crease. Atleast Cummins and Hazlewood had something to talk. Even ishant has.

 

[pratiktc]

Visually appealing fast bowling generally tends to be that which lends itself well to a highlights package. Generally late exaggerated swing which shatters stumps/creates edges for packed cordon (ala Jimmy/Waqar) or bouncer barrage at high speed (Johnson).

India's bowlers are mostly seamers who bowl occasional surprise bouncer and tend to get batsmen out caught behind/lbw by nipbackers by getting few inches of new ball/reverse swing. So it doesn't look very appealing in highlights package

 

[Itachi]

This is case with subconscious awareness.

A simple example. You have underestimated someone for a long time. But as time progresses, he has brought new dynamics. But your mind is unable to cope with the changes. That's where the defence shield will kick in and you'll search for another aspect to undermine. It isn't intentional and happens in sub conscious level. We all are guilty of it. So what you feel
is natural.

 

[JaDed]

This is case with subconscious awareness.

A simple example. You have underestimated someone for a long time. But as time progresses, he has brought new dynamics. But your mind is unable to cope with the changes. That's where the defence shield will kick in and you'll search for another aspect to undermine. It isn't intentional and happens in sub conscious level. We all are guilty of it. So what you feel
is natural.

Well said.

 

[Aman]

No charisma or personality.

 

[pillionrider]

OP lost all merit when he mentioned Starc. Never has a skilful bowler looked as drab, boring and lacking in personality as Starc.

It was so bad, Warne ripped into him and next game, Starc was in some batsman's face awkwardly, apparently to show some personality

 

[Aman]

OP lost all merit when he mentioned Starc. Never has a skilful bowler looked as drab, boring and lacking in personality as Starc.

It was so bad, Warne ripped into him and next game, Starc was in some batsman's face awkwardly, apparently to show some personality

Personality is meh, but when he fires up, cranks up the pace and gets the yorkers going he's amazing to watch.

 

[Aman]

Do Indians even watch their bowlers bowl? I remember reading a lot of Indian PPers say a few years back they never watched India bowl

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Our bowlers are very unassuming and just try and exeute their roles as part of the bowling unit. I can see why others might find it boring but that works for them.

 

[Indiafan]

Nobody is more happy than me that Bumrah is finally doing well, and has put the past behind him, but he is very boring to watch. No intensity, no personality. Then you look at someone like Rabada or even Starc in ODIs and you’re so into their bowling.

It’s not just Bumrah, even in the past India have produced some world class pacers but they have been very bland in terms of bowling style. Zaheer Khan kind of bucked the trend a bit.

Can’t just me be me who has this train of thought. What will it take for India’s fast bowling culture to be revolutionized and we see entertaining pacers with the glow and aura of Kohli and Dhoni types?

This post seems weird to me as Australian commentators were constantly stating how exciting bumrah was and he actually did all the things start and akhtsr did, amazing short balls, slower Yorkers, fast reverse Yorkers, changing the game in few balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJkadBf8Z4

At this point I think this is bias which is stopping you from enjoying bumrah. Personally nowadays the only cricket I watch is India bowling in tests because that's the most exciting part eben more than batting

 

[Snak3eye5]

I personally like Hassan or Shaheens who bowls with passion and aggression and Hassan’s celebration after he takes a wicket is a treat to watch. Bumrah on the other hand is so meh. He still failed when it matters the most which was ct17.

 

[nextover666666]

Because it's not their strength they don't have good bowlers how ever as a batting unit their always a fun to watch because they have good batsmen.

The only fun Indian bowler to watch was Ashok Dinda

 

[Indiafan]

Our bowlers are very unassuming and just try and exeute their roles as part of the bowling unit. I can see why others might find it boring but that works for them.

Lol no one who watched a single recent test would say bumrah or shami were just executing a plan. Bumrah and shami were running through sides in one or two sessions and commentators were going gaga with excitement

Why do indian fans still have a chop on their shoulders when it comes to bowling is beyond me. For example, Pakistanis still have a cult like following of Amir, who is one of the most drab bowlers in modern cricket, just check his wickets in recent series, he does not have 10% of the variety, excitement, impact and running through sides that bumrah has, he bowls like a machine and bowls to prevent runs. Meanwhile bumrah and shami were terrorizing batsmen, running through sides, cranking up pace, running circles around batsmen

If you ask op [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] and he will say Amir is exciting. It's obvious bias

 

[Indiafan]

No charisma or personality.

You habe to be extremely biased if you think this is no personality bowling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJkadBf8Z4

Luckily all experts and commentators disagree. But this is the problem with being in echo chambers, you start repeating the mob line

 

[Rafa]

Because one can clearly notice that they operate like programmed machines and lack the natural aggression and flair of a fast bowler , something that is associated with Fast bowlers from WI , Australia and Pakistan.

 

[Snowflake]

Looks like most people here failed to understand OP's point. Nowhere did he say that they aren't good bowlers or lack skill. India currently has a very good bowling attack which is probably better than Pakistan's.

However, I do agree with the OP that Indian bowlers lack charisma and personality, and this has always been the case. I do not know what the reason for that is, but it's a genuine observation.

Pakistani fast bowlers have ways been a treat to watch not just because of their skills but because of their flashy and charismatic personalities.

Which set would you rather have in your team? Obviously the more skillful and effective set, but that's not the point of this thread.

 

[Snowflake]

You habe to be extremely biased if you think this is no personality bowling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svJkadBf8Z4

Luckily all experts and commentators disagree. But this is the problem with being in echo chambers, you start repeating the mob line

I don't know, but I think the video reinforces OP's claim if anything. That was masterful bowling but we don't see anything from the bowler in terms of flair and excitement. Bumrah as a character is quite bland.

 

[BreadPakoda]

For me, Bumrah is the most exciting bowler in international circuit. I love watching him bowl, especially in ODI death overs when you can expect him to take a delivery every ball.

Along with Starc, he’s also the only bowler who can execute yorkers, which happen to be my favourite delivery to watch.

In fact I spend hours on YouTube watching Bumrah’s spells. Lol

 

[BlackShadow]

Aapka 120kph trundling aggression aap ko mubarak. Ishant has been one of the most successful and aggressive fast bowlers in the last few years, while Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi have been entertaining with their skills with the ball. Don't need much else to stand out.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Aapka 120kph trundling aggression aap ko mubarak. Ishant has been one of the most successful and aggressive fast bowlers in the last few years, while Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi have been entertaining with their skills with the ball. Don't need much else to stand out.

I’ve always been a huge fan of genuine fast bowling and always look forward to seeing Bumrah, Shami, Rabada, Boult, Steyn, Starc et al bow fast and furious. Loved watching Lee and Akhtar back in the day, who were even quicker than the current crop.

On the other hand, its actually Pakistan who’s medium bowlers I find very boring. Even in last game we saw some basic trundlers taking 1 wicket across a game. In test, Amir’s loud grunts to deliver 125-132kph in the last series were frustrating to watch. Although he ended up bowling great lines, that made everything a bit more bearable. Hasan has lost pace and Abbas is unfortunately a quintessential trundler. I like watching Pakistan bat more than bowl. Or maybe I like watching bowlers bowl to Pakistani batsmen.

I guess it comes down to personal choice.

 

[Snowflake]

Aapka 120kph trundling aggression aap ko mubarak. Ishant has been one of the most successful and aggressive fast bowlers in the last few years, while Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi have been entertaining with their skills with the ball. Don't need much else to stand out.

Missed the point of the thread but, okay.

 

[Itachi]

Looks like most people here failed to understand OP's point. Nowhere did he say that they aren't good bowlers or lack skill. India currently has a very good bowling attack which is probably better than Pakistan's.

However, I do agree with the OP that Indian bowlers lack charisma and personality, and this has always been the case. I do not know what the reason for that is, but it's a genuine observation.

Pakistani fast bowlers have ways been a treat to watch not just because of their skills but because of their flashy and charismatic personalities.

Which set would you rather have in your team? Obviously the more skillful and effective set, but that's not the point of this thread.

#18 my post already explains the reason. It's a basic human psychology where people tend to bring other aspects while being in denial.

 

[Snowflake]

#18 my post already explains the reason. It's a basic human psychology where people tend to bring other aspects while being in denial.

That doesn't make much sense though. If it's all about being in denial and jealousy, then people would undermine everything about them. Also, this criticism, of lacking flair and personality, isn't anything new. So, you're wrong when you say that it's only now that people are bringing it up.

Most here, including me, acknowledge that Indian bowling attack has improved dramatically and is better than Pakistan's. But that doesn't mean they can't be criticized for lacking in anything.

If you feel like the claim has no merit, feel free to present a counter.

 

[Itachi]

That doesn't make much sense though. If it's all about being in denial and jealousy, then people would undermine everything about them. Also, this criticism, of lacking flair and personality, isn't anything new. So, you're wrong when you say that it's only now that people are bringing it up.

Most here, including me, acknowledge that Indian bowling attack has improved dramatically and is better than Pakistan's. But that doesn't mean they can't be criticized for lacking in anything.

If you feel like the claim has no merit, feel free to present a counter.

There are two types of denial. One is on conscious level and the other is sub conscious.

On your conscious part, you'll be driving by logics and if you'll realise the superiority aspect of someone, then you won't find any difficulty in accepting it.

But sub conscious level could be contradictory to what your conscious one wants to do. That's the reason why in life, we are conflicted in our minds about various aspects.

Denial doesn't mean you'll be oppose to an entity in every other way. It could happen, without you even realising it. That's when if you try to find a reason for it, you'll be left with no answers.

 

[Suleiman]

Lol no one who watched a single recent test would say bumrah or shami were just executing a plan. Bumrah and shami were running through sides in one or two sessions and commentators were going gaga with excitement

Why do indian fans still have a chop on their shoulders when it comes to bowling is beyond me. For example, Pakistanis still have a cult like following of Amir, who is one of the most drab bowlers in modern cricket, just check his wickets in recent series, he does not have 10% of the variety, excitement, impact and running through sides that bumrah has, he bowls like a machine and bowls to prevent runs. Meanwhile bumrah and shami were terrorizing batsmen, running through sides, cranking up pace, running circles around batsmen

If you ask op [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] and he will say Amir is exciting. It's obvious bias

You’re stereotyping me for no reason. I should report you. I would’ve said Bumrah.

 

[Snowflake]

There are two types of denial. One is on conscious level and the other is sub conscious.

On your conscious part, you'll be driving by logics and if you'll realise the superiority aspect of someone, then you won't find any difficulty in accepting it.

But sub conscious level could be contradictory to what your conscious one wants to do. That's the reason why in life, we are conflicted in our minds about various aspects.

Denial doesn't mean you'll be oppose to an entity in every other way. It could happen, without you even realising it. That's when if you try to find a reason for it, you'll be left with no answers.

Okay, I don't know about OP but my opinion is at a pretty conscious level

Also, just for the heck of it, let's just go with your assessment of this subconscious denial. Even if someone is criticising as a defence mechanism, that doesn't have to mean the criticism itself is invalid. Again, let's challenge the validity of the criticism, not dig into where its coming from

 

[Usman Chadda]

The OP may find a pacer like Shoaib Akhtar exciting because he had a thirty meter long run up. Bumrah may not be exciting to him because he only has a spinner like run up of seven yards. It is the result that matters. Bumrah generates nearly the same pace with more accuracy than "exciting" pacers. To result oriented fans, pacers like Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvneshwar Kumar are quite exciting to watch.

Bumrah generates the same pace as Shoaib Akhtar? ) ) )

 

[Rahul1]

Bumrah generates the same pace as Shoaib Akhtar? ) ) )

Where did he say that?

 

[leg-side-flick]

To each according to his own. If the OP finds Indian bowlers boring, then he should switch channels and if others find it exciting then keep watching... Why fight ?

 

[BlackShadow]

Missed the point of the thread but, okay.

I didn't. A fast bowler can't be a boring when he is bowling 90mph and making batsmen look stupid. Shami barely talks but bowls some intimidating fast bowling spells every now and then. Same with Bumrah. That's entertaining.

Or if attitude and body language alone makes a bowler entertaining, even then Ishant takes the cake for Asian fast bowlers, but even that's something posters here will have hard time admitting.

 

[Snowflake]

I didn't. A fast bowler can't be a boring when he is bowling 90mph and making batsmen look stupid. Shami barely talks but bowls some intimidating fast bowling spells every now and then. Same with Bumrah. That's entertaining.

Or if attitude and body language alone makes a bowler entertaining, even then Ishant takes the cake for Asian fast bowlers, but even that's something posters here will have hard time admitting.

Again, all what you've written in that first paragraph is about skill. No one is denying their pace or their effectiveness. OP even clearly mentioned that they are world class pacers!

It's about personality and aura, and the less said about Shami on these fronts the better!

Yes, I do find it hard to admit that Ishant Sharma is charismatic. Come on, buddy, really?

But again, the notion of entertainment is quite subjective, so we could go just go in circles all day.

 

[Stalin]

As long as they are getting wickets and doing the job for the team , I don't give a fish about their so called personality which i think is overrated.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Strongly disagree.
Bumrahs bowling in test matches vs aus was as exciting as it gets.High speed,yorkers,bouncers,slower ones(the one he bowled to shaun marsh),inswingers and what not.
I dont find shami's bowling usually exciting but when he is in full flow in 3rd or 4th innings he becomes a demon,6 fer in perth and 5fer in centurion ,high quality short pitch stuff.
Ishant, i agree he wasnt very exciting in aus but his bowling in england was really good.He's a stock bowler not our spearhead,every team has one of them.

In odis i do agree with you,there is no one (except bumrah )who is exciting

 

[rhony]

Tbh there isn't a single fast bowler that's exciting enough to run through a batting order in the world. Boult probably comes close on his day but isn't in the face of the batsmen. Fizz a couple of years ago came close. But again they never intimidated any batsmen.

The days of Akhtar or Lee running hard and intimidating batsmen is over. Pace doesn't intimidate anybody anymore. Australia have an effective bowling lineup but the spearhead Starc is very inconsistent. With all their glorious history, WI are a nation of trundlers now. English bowlers are meh. This is probably the worst fast bowling lineup in their history for Pakistan. It was painful to watch 130 kph from Amir, Abbas and Shaheen. They were effective but not exciting. India have a good attack but is robotic in it's efficiency. They can produce results but don't run through lineups. Infact their strength is with the old ball. SA barring Rabada is drab despite Olivier's 135 kph bouncers.

This is the age of spinners. Rashid Khan, Kuldeep, Chahal and co Can run through lineups. They are exciting.

 

[austerlitz]

Personality is overrated word.Bowling machines have severely restricted intimidation factor of true fast bowlers.The west indians today would have a much more difficult time intimidating batsmen with helmets,bowling machine practice and much better average batting techniques.

The indian attack is not flashy,its disciplined and performs its plans extremely well.If you are an indian fan,its exciting for us having an excellent pace attack as well 3 world class spinners.It may not be to everyone's liking and thats fine,as long as it gets the job done.For me bumrah is as exciting as anyone in world cricket bar rabada.Watching shami bounce out the aussie batsmen in perth was another treat.

 

[Varun]

Who cares. They're doing the job - opposition scores of 600/4 (d) are unheard of now.

I never expected the likes of Ishant to be interesting to watch anyway.

 

[Oligochaetes]

It's better to be boring than end up like Pandya and Rahul

 

[Ab Fan]

They are doing a good job together and that's what matters. Yes, if they had the swagger and were entertaining or feared as well, then it would have been even better. But still won't mind taking what's coming now.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Lol no one who watched a single recent test would say bumrah or shami were just executing a plan. Bumrah and shami were running through sides in one or two sessions and commentators were going gaga with excitement

Why do indian fans still have a chop on their shoulders when it comes to bowling is beyond me. For example, Pakistanis still have a cult like following of Amir, who is one of the most drab bowlers in modern cricket, just check his wickets in recent series, he does not have 10% of the variety, excitement, impact and running through sides that bumrah has, he bowls like a machine and bowls to prevent runs. Meanwhile bumrah and shami were terrorizing batsmen, running through sides, cranking up pace, running circles around batsmen

If you ask op [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] and he will say Amir is exciting. It's obvious bias

Well they ARE executing a plan. But that does not meant they aren't exciting. In fact, I find them exciting - all of them(Shami, Bumrah, ishant, Bhuv) .But then i again i found Mcgrath a very exciting bowler. And many would say he was boring.

What posters find exciting is purely subjective. Terms like flair and charisma can't be quantified can they?
Pakistani PPers may find Abbas bowling 119 kph length balls exciting and may find Aamir running in with a grunt to bowl an effort ball at 135 kph, as the bowler with the most flair and charisma. Who are we to say otherwise?

 

[BreadPakoda]

Well they ARE executing a plan. But that does not meant they aren't exciting. In fact, I find them exciting - all of them(Shami, Bumrah, ishant, Bhuv) .But then i again i found Mcgrath a very exciting bowler. And many would say he was boring.

What posters find exciting is purely subjective. Terms like flair and charisma can't be quantified can they?
Pakistani PPers may find Abbas bowling 119 kph length balls exciting and may find Aamir running in with a grunt to bowl an effort ball at 129 kph, as the bowler with the most flair and charisma. Who are we to say otherwise?

Abbas might be bowling at 30kph lesser than Shami and getting no wickets but former has jigra and dil which Shami lacks. That's what people love watching and that's why Abbas is a super star.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Abbas might be bowling at 30kph lesser than Shami and getting no wickets but former has jigra and dil which Shami lacks. That's what people love watching and that's why Abbas is a super star.

Yep. And bowling 60 % of your deliveries in the 120-132 kph range all delivered with Sharpova-esque grunts shows Aamir is, quite befitttingly, the leader of the most charismatic attack in the world.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Yep. And bowling 60 % of your deliveries in the 120-132 kph range all delivered with Sharpova-esque grunts shows Aamir is, quite befitttingly, the leader of the most charismatic attack in the world.

It takes more effort to ride a rickshaw than to drive a car

 

[Virat_Kohli_fan]

Abbas might be bowling at 30kph lesser than Shami and getting no wickets but former has jigra and dil which Shami lacks. That's what people love watching and that's why Abbas is a super star.

Totally agree, anyone can bowl 140 KPH and trouble the batsman, but you need real jigra and a bada dil to serve 115 KPH pies at an international level.

 

[Suleiman]

In America, certain sportsmen to brand themselves will take improv class or some sort of public speaking lessons to improve their self image and be more confident, as well as better make a mark on audiences. Think BCCI needs to do something like this. They are the most powerful board and brand ambassadors of cricket, and need to make cricket stand out with characters like Kohli instead of the meek, head to the ground yes sir no sir type players.

 

[Itachi]

In America, certain sportsmen to brand themselves will take improv class or some sort of public speaking lessons to improve their self image and be more confident, as well as better make a mark on audiences. Think BCCI needs to do something like this. They are the most powerful board and brand ambassadors of cricket, and need to make cricket stand out with characters like Kohli instead of the meek, head to the ground yes sir no sir type players.

If everyone stands out, the x factor that you are talking about will cease to exist. This isn't WWE where you have to portray a character according to the industry. It's an actual sport.

 

[Banter]

Bumrah isn't "exciting". Sachin wasn't a "matchwinner". Yasir "better" than Ashwin in away conditions.

Whatever nonsense CHOTI CHOTI KHUSHIYA floats your boat.

 

[light]

Do Indians even watch their bowlers bowl? I remember reading a lot of Indian PPers say a few years back they never watched India bowl

I usually watch the batting ... unsless we are defending, goes to the last 5 overs, then i'll watch it. Ain't nobody got time for 4h of bowlers bowling craps.

 

[saeed5646]

Well they ARE executing a plan. But that does not meant they aren't exciting. In fact, I find them exciting - all of them(Shami, Bumrah, ishant, Bhuv) .But then i again i found Mcgrath a very exciting bowler. And many would say he was boring.

What posters find exciting is purely subjective. Terms like flair and charisma can't be quantified can they?
Pakistani PPers may find Abbas bowling 119 kph length balls exciting and may find Aamir running in with a grunt to bowl an effort ball at 135 kph, as the bowler with the most flair and charisma. Who are we to say otherwise?

no one is interested in your super duper phast bowler which you find it after long time .remember that not long ago stuart binny was opening the bowling for your team in odis and test in england so stay humble don,t take cheap dig at pakistani bowler which is clearly not the op point

 

[saeed5646]

Abbas might be bowling at 30kph lesser than Shami and getting no wickets but former has jigra and dil which Shami lacks. That's what people love watching and that's why Abbas is a super star.

Yep. And bowling 60 % of your deliveries in the 120-132 kph range all delivered with Sharpova-esque grunts shows Aamir is, quite befitttingly, the leader of the most charismatic attack in the world.

It takes more effort to ride a rickshaw than to drive a car

Totally agree, anyone can bowl 140 KPH and trouble the batsman, but you need real jigra and a bada dil to serve 115 KPH pies at an international level.

why such arrogance when your super speed star have same record of pakistani bowler in test from last one year?

 

[HuzaifaE]

I'd love 5 boring Bumrahs

 

[giri26]

Well I don't mind this boring Indian bowling attack as finally we have a unit which can actually deliver on all sorts of pitches. Don't care if they are not exciting but personally I find Bumrah's bowling and variations good to watch.

 

[charlie007]

Question should have been better framed as "Do you find Indian quick bowlers to be boring" rather than what it is now.
It is a totally subjective opinion for people. For me Bumrah is exciting to watch; the way he sets up the batsman and eventually takes him out is like a mystery novel! So to each their own. Aggression is not just shown by aggressive gestures, stare-downs, send-offs, or foul mouthing; it is also shown by the desire to plan and execute your strategy to get wickets. So if you like the former more, then you'll not be excited by Indian quickies. Curious to know what you like about seeing Amir and Abbas; especially Abbas who is about planning and execution than plain showoffs?

 

[AMSS]

This is a good follow up thread to the blockbuster "Is India the weakest number 1 team ever?".

To answer the question raised in OP, I have to say the vegetarian diet has something to do with it.

 

[BreadPakoda]

why such arrogance when your super speed star have same record of pakistani bowler in test from last one year?

Agree. India has had a good assemble of genuine pacers but Pakistan's medium pace attack has also performed almost at par, despite being young and inexperienced.

 

[hurricanes]

no one is interested in your super duper phast bowler which you find it after long time .remember that not long ago stuart binny was opening the bowling for your team in odis and test in england so stay humble don,t take cheap dig at pakistani bowler which is clearly not the op point

Can you please tell this to your captain who seems to be on a lookout for 140kph bowler?

 

[Rahul1]

why such arrogance when your super speed star have same record of pakistani bowler in test from last one year?

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According to your stats, Indian fast bowlers have the better average and better strike rate. )

 

[saeed5646]

According to your stats, Indian fast bowlers have the better average and better strike rate. )

if you consider it is better than nothing to argue with you .it sums up your knowledge about cricket

 

[saeed5646]

Can you please tell this to your captain who seems to be on a lookout for 140kph bowler?

did i say pakistani bowler are faster than india? i know they are slower but still taking wicket and have decent record in test from last two years.

 

[Balthazar]

So is Jadeja boring to watch? Kuldeep or Ashwin? Shami? How many exciting characters are there in Pakistan team? lol.. Doing some cringe-worthy stuff isn't exciting. It's lame especially when you can't back it up with results.

 

[Balthazar]

As for Indian fast bowlers are concerned, they are as exciting as Pakistan batsmen, but they get the job done unlike your batsmen. The new crop of bowlers have not debuted yet, as we are still playing with old bowlers.

 

[big_gamer007]

Watching high quality fast bowling is one of the best things in cricket..

McGrath might be the greatest bowler of all time however personally I found him boring to watch whereas people like was in, waqar and shoaib were wonderful to watch because of the swing they could generate.

Indian bowlers in patches have had their days, bhuvi with new ball in swinging conditions is great to watch, ZAK had his days, ishant against left handers in England series was amazing. However overall we do not have a Donald, wasim, waqar, shoaib, bond, starc etc.

Current Indian bowlers are very effective but not fun to watch unless Bhuvi gets his conditons or Ishant gets his.
Compared to Pakistani counterparts who are neither effective and are boring as well atleast Indian bowlers are effective. not sure why this thread only targets current Indian bowlers when Pakistani ones are just as boring

 

[big_gamer007]

no one is interested in your super duper phast bowler which you find it after long time .remember that not long ago stuart binny was opening the bowling for your team in odis and test in england so stay humble don,t take cheap dig at pakistani bowler which is clearly not the op point

Lol seems to have touched a nerve, the OP who started this thread himself started it to take cheap dogs at Indian bowlers. This is how online forums work where a lot of banter and digs take place.

 

[Indiafan]

why such arrogance when your super speed star have same record of pakistani bowler in test from last one year?

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I think the difference in opposition might have helped a bit here

 

[Mamoon]

why such arrogance when your super speed star have same record of pakistani bowler in test from last one year?

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This stats are skewed by Abbas’ performance who has been found out now. New Zealand and South Africa have exposed his limitations and I don’t see him scaling the Australian series heights again.

Overall, an attack of Bumrah, Shami, Ishant and Bhuvneshwar beats an attack of Amir, Hasan, Abbas and Shaheen to a pulp.

 

[RamLakhan]

Lol no one who watched a single recent test would say bumrah or shami were just executing a plan. Bumrah and shami were running through sides in one or two sessions and commentators were going gaga with excitement

Why do indian fans still have a chop on their shoulders when it comes to bowling is beyond me. For example, Pakistanis still have a cult like following of Amir, who is one of the most drab bowlers in modern cricket, just check his wickets in recent series, he does not have 10% of the variety, excitement, impact and running through sides that bumrah has, he bowls like a machine and bowls to prevent runs. Meanwhile bumrah and shami were terrorizing batsmen, running through sides, cranking up pace, running circles around batsmen

If you ask op [MENTION=136729]Suleiman[/MENTION] and he will say Amir is exciting. It's obvious bias

The excitement comes from one-off Amir's CT triumph! While somebody like Irfan Pathan has achieved such things (hat-trick in Pakistan bagging some high quality batsmen!) Even Stuart Binny looked lethal on one of his day! What one should notice is consistency and overall effectiveness!

 

[RamLakhan]

This is case with subconscious awareness.

A simple example. You have underestimated someone for a long time. But as time progresses, he has brought new dynamics. But your mind is unable to cope with the changes. That's where the defence shield will kick in and you'll search for another aspect to undermine. It isn't intentional and happens in sub conscious level. We all are guilty of it. So what you feel
is natural.

First challenge for Bumrah was whether he can be successful in international cricket (When he started well in IPL) with his ugly action & as usual trundler level of Indian bowlers!
Next challenge was can Bumrah pickup wickets apart from being good in death overs.
Next one was can Bumrah remain fit with his ugly action (still there is question about his longevity!)
Next was whether he can be successful in Test Cricket
Now it is all about excitement & boredom!

Moral of the story is: "Indian Bowlers should never reach a consistent level of success" (Indian batsmen have unfortunately reached that level time and again of course with some scrutiny!) Bumrah overtaking the league of Indian Bowlers, and now he is at World's best level is a hard pill to digest!

 

[Pakhs]

I think people are talking here mostly about Bumrah. I think the reason why Bumrah is not that exciting is because his action is very unnatural and impossible to copy, Kids are unlikely to even try it, to go with his run up which is just few steps. He is basically like a bowling machine where you ignore everything that happens before the bowl being bowled.

Compare to say someone like Akhtar who had a long box office run-up and then aero-plane celebration so there was a lot to see even before the bowl was delivered and after.

All of this doesnt mean Bumrah is not a good bowler because he definitely is. I think Shami is more normal and calling him boring is harsh.