Why do we Pakistan fans become so negative after a loss?

[Zakaz]

This was literally the smallest defeat in test cricket for us in terms runs, as close as it gets. Yes, our players lack in mental strength and thats why pressure gets to them more often than not, but I think our team reflects the same mental strength as our fans. We become so emotional and start thinking the worst and lowest thing possible, its time to support our team rather than demand big changes. Two tests to go and Pakistan can still win the series Inshallah. Meanwhile, credits to newzealand for holding their nerves...

 

[NauV]

I think there's merit in fans losing it on this performance . .
It seems to happen more often with the Pakistani side than any other side in the world . .
It's repeat performance . . like you almost know waht you're gonna get . .

50 runs to get . . 7 wickets in hand . . thats a done deal! But for Pakistani fans . . you know its not! and it got proved again today . .

Just in the last few test matches we have played, we have let go of winning positions . . and botched it in the 4th innings . . so repeatedly doing the same errors is frustrating!

 

[Darkrai]

These fans are annoying. All they do is cry and make noise.

I couldn't watch, so idk what happened...

 

[PakPremi]

This was literally the smallest defeat in test cricket for us in terms runs, as close as it gets. Yes, our players lack in mental strength and thats why pressure gets to them more often than not, but I think our team reflects the same mental strength as our fans. We become so emotional and start thinking the worst and lowest thing possible, its time to support our team rather than demand big changes. Two tests to go and Pakistan can still win the series Inshallah. Meanwhile, credits to newzealand for holding their nerves...

National trait. Emotional lot. We over celebrate and over mourn forgetting the other team is also there to win , not just fold over and play to our tunes. What worries me is the ones that do not even celebrate our small wins calling it fluke. Conversely this victory could be termed fluke for New Zealand as they gave us small total to chase but because of this and that Pak lost. Anyway as I said in another thread our players need mental strength to handle pressure. Those who keep failing likes of Hafeez need to be shown door.

 

[Bilal7]

People forget that it is a game and unfortunately, put too much stock into sports these days. Defeats happen, if it wasn't Pakistan it would have been New Zealand.

I expect us to bounce back and win the next two games though. Sometimes a defeat like this acts as motivation.

 

[shariqnoor]

People forget that it is a game and unfortunately, put too much stock into sports these days. Defeats happen, if it wasn't Pakistan it would have been New Zealand.

I expect us to bounce back and win the next two games though. Sometimes a defeat like this acts as motivation.

To be honest, a defeat like this that too at home only adds to the misery and demotivates you. I wouldn't bet against Pakistan losing the next match too.

 

[the Great Khan]

This was literally the smallest defeat in test cricket for us in terms runs, as close as it gets. Yes, our players lack in mental strength and thats why pressure gets to them more often than not, but I think our team reflects the same mental strength as our fans. We become so emotional and start thinking the worst and lowest thing possible, its time to support our team rather than demand big changes. Two tests to go and Pakistan can still win the series Inshallah. Meanwhile, credits to newzealand for holding their nerves...

there is a small cadre of fans who follow a certain pied piper combined with gloating Indians..thats what has messed up the atmosphere on this forum. By all means criticise, but rememebr it is a sport..we will be good in an era and rubbish in another..i mean look at australia and the windies..I enjoyed the match. it had ups downs sideways and I was gutted but its not the end of the world..

when i was young I used to take it to heart but you grow up..relax..we have a paksitan team that will always be dangerous..criticise but do it civily and keep supporting your team..as for collapses, england and India have a ginourmous amount..

 

[AAli98]

Not being negative but when half of ur team don’t warrant a place in the team then 50 runs required with 7 wckts in hand & still lose the match will become a regular thing!!

 

[Zakaz]

Infact, world should thank us for keeping test cricket alive by nail-biting matches like this which only Pakistan can produce. The reason for why test cricket was dying was because teams like India keep inviting minnows into their home and thrashing them to maintain the number 1 ranking. One side dominating in test match is what makes test cricket dull.

 

[Zakaz]

Not being negative but when half of ur team don’t warrant a place in the team then 50 runs required with 7 wckts in hand & still lose the match will become a regular thing!!

would you be saying the same thing if we had scored 4 more runs and won the match?

 

[AAli98]

Don’t care what happened today

Azhar asad bad investments
Hafeez imam what are they doing in the team
Bilal Asif???
Sarfaraz useless as they come.

 

[ads101]

I'm not annoyed at us failing or players being bad that happens, nor the fact we lost a close match.

What I'm irritated with is certain players went out there today and went for glory hitting out when it wasn't needed. Not playing for the team at all. That irritates me. Was Afridi-esque when we needed him to just stay in, he just went for hits instead.

So yeah I blame Hasan, Yasir and Bilal for this defeat. Wasn't a lack of skill, or incapability. They made a selfish/poor choice to go out swinging rather than doing the responsible thing and supporting their senior batsman. Hasan and Yasir did all that hard work bowling well, only to undo it with their actions with the bat. Maybe you could add Sarfraz to that list too.

Azhar I don't blame. He was just incapable and closing the match like a middle order bat. It's not his fault, he tried.

One thing good from this experience as surely the above will be shocked by this match and won't ever attempt the same thing again. Everyone takes responsibility with the bat even the bowlers. It's a team game. More so if your batting line up is weak, and it comes down that the bowlers actually have to be relied on in circumstances such as the one today.

I think we'll win the next two, and hopefully Saad Ali comes in for Hafeez. But defeats like this make me sad tbh, more so than if we were simply thrashed.

 

[Bilal7]

The bowlers lost the match with their ducks but I completely understand their train of thought. A couple or boundaries would have finished the game off without suspense and given the psychological edge back to Pakistan for the rest of the series. It did not come off and the edge is with New Zealand but we should still bounce back and win the series.

 

[aloo paratha]

Chill people. Yes it was a bad loss, obviously. But the series is still alive. We lost the first ODI convincingly, but we came back. Have faith in the team.

 

[Chokli]

Chill people. Yes it was a bad loss, obviously. But the series is still alive. We lost the first ODI convincingly, but we came back. Have faith in the team.

The difference is that we're supposed to be a really good Test team.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Its an embarrassing loss, but not the end of the world as far as Pakistan cricket is concerned. I'm shocked at the fragile mental strength of this team, which has been exposed too many times now. The Asia Cup was a debacle because of this and now this four run defeat, which flatters Pakistan's pathetic effort in the last innings.

 

[Shandarchowka]

It is beyond me! 4th innings chases are never easy and we almost clinched it. I know it is a difficult pill to swallow but appreciate this young team's fight!

 

[Chokli]

this young team's fight!

We've been hearing this excuse since 2009

 

[aloo paratha]

The difference is that we're supposed to be a really good Test team.

Only idiots say that. Being and having potential to be is very different. I think we have the potential to be a top 5 test team. Our bowling is good but our team selection is completely wrong. Playing with Bilal and Hafeez is like playing with 9 players. Fakhar and Gohar should come in to this team. But team management is hell bent on playing rubbish players.

Also, we need to get better at playing under pressure. Especially Babar and imam.

 

[CricVet]

Some negative people here just crave to get attention. Expect the unexpected from Pakistan cricket. This loss may not effect our ratting much but what rating does not show that this team has capability to beat and get beaten the same day. Some may call it mediocre but even the top teams know that you have to be on your toes to beat Pakistan. Let's suffer the heartach together and wish for better luck next time Pakistan.

 

[Chokli]

Only idiots say that. Being and having potential to be is very different. I think we have the potential to be a top 5 test team. Our bowling is good but our team selection is completely wrong. Playing with Bilal and Hafeez is like playing with 9 players. Fakhar and Gohar should come in to this team. But team management is hell bent on playing sh!t players.

Also, we need to get better at playing under pressure. Especially Babar and imam.

Lol, your team has been playing here for 10 years now.

These are your home conditions and you lost to a side that is also somewhat new.

There's literally no excuse applicable today, how do you lose by 4 runs? I understand if they were bowled out for 110-120, like they did versus SL.

But this is embarrassing.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

No bad then sri lanka whitewash,
If you don't put player's on merit and destroy there careers on like and dislike i know this is not first defeat many more to come until it sport run by morons....

Imam,hafeez,bilal, and satfraz are they on merit ? also asad and azhar are bad in domestic

 

[Buffet]

In 4th inning chase funny things happen. 2 more tests are left.

 

[aloo paratha]

Lol, your team has been playing here for 10 years now.

These are your home conditions and you lost to a side that is also somewhat new.

There's literally no excuse applicable today, how do you lose by 4 runs? I understand if they were bowled out for 110-120, like they did versus SL.

But this is embarrassing.

It is embarrassing, I never denied that. I'm just saying that it's not the end of the world. Series is still alive. If we just get our selection right, we can perform much better in the coming years. We have a lot to work on, but we're not minnows either.

 

[Hawkeye]

Because it has become the norm now.

Not an exception.

Down to #7 under Sarf.

 

[Chokli]

It is embarrassing, I never denied that. I'm just saying that it's not the end of the world. Series is still alive. If we just get our selection right, we can perform much better in the coming years. We have a lot to work on, but we're not minnows either.

Yeah I agree, it's not the end of the world but it just doesn't sit well.

 

[yasir]

Its not just one off test match, fans have short memories...In last 3 years we have lost 7/8 test matches with those collapses and brain farts...As I pointed out earlier, even we would have lost 2 test in England, if we there were no Shadab and Fahim.

First off, all these seniors are mostly gutless, Shafiq still keep getting out by poking at harmless deliveries after 50+ test and 8 years, how much more training he needs to take the ownership?? - He could not hold #4 spot and have to yield it to Harris.

Azhar Ali is gutless batsman, who is a partnership killer, He is Misbah 2.0 with one less shot (slog over cow corner, that took Misbah's SR of 25 to 35). What saved Misbah all these years was YK, who was the true main stray of Pakistani batting lineup. Shafiq and Azhar was suppose to man up and take that role, both of them are still trying to hide behind others, as they have been doing for last decade...Azhar has no shots what so ever, if he has to play, opening is the only position, he is not no 3, he is not suited at all for that role. You have to take game forward at that position, Azhar has never done that, at best he can stall the game...

Hafeez, what can I say, he is like Pakistan Army, if he does something, we have to be thankful. Otherwise their main purpose is the threat they possesses. Like our Army, threat goes significantly down as we travel west or when we are in crisis. He is the first one to look for cover after 15 years of investment

Sarfraz, we have a habit of making non-playing Captain. Pakistan is so obsessed with Captaincy and seniority, I don't know how things can be worse with young Captain?? - Pakistan manage to loose 6 tests in a row in west with team loaded with seniors, with similar collapses. This season we could not beat AUS in first test and now loss like that, so far we have only played 3 test at home. How worse things can go??

In this generation all our batting investments have gone wasted. Hafeez, Azhar, Shafiq, Malik, Sarfraz all of them turned out to be disappointing. In last generation we had MoYo, YK, Misbah, Inzi, now that is regression in many ways...Problem is you just cannot through away all those investments, you have to suffer through them for another 5 years or so

 

[Chokli]

In this generation all our batting investments have gone wasted. Hafeez, Azhar, Shafiq, Malik, Sarfraz all of them turned out to be disappointing. In last generation we had MoYo, YK, Misbah, Inzi, now that is regression in many ways...Problem is you just cannot through away all those investments, you have to suffer through them for another 5 years or so

This!

 

[Hasan123]

Our mediocrity in tests has been an on going issue. There is no negativey. People are calling out the issues. Not being able to chase 175 after the position we were in is embarrassing. What is there to be positive about this test team ? Senior batsmen who can't play pace and are mental midgets. A captain who doesn't make the team on merit. Our bowling attack is good but can't save us every time.

Changes are needed . You can't always be positive. A supporter will say when his team is struggling . They won't be positive for the sake of it.

 

[the Great Khan]

Lol, your team has been playing here for 10 years now.

These are your home conditions and you lost to a side that is also somewhat new.

There's literally no excuse applicable today, how do you lose by 4 runs? I understand if they were bowled out for 110-120, like they did versus SL.

But this is embarrassing.

so every player in the team has been playing in the UAE for ten years? Id see how your shooperishtaars would fair if they couldnt play in your doctored cricket environment..we saw what happened to these pretenders in england and then SA..dont get on your high horse about your fake team and fake cricketing nation..

 

[the Great Khan]

No changes are not needed..this is a result of changes. Have any of you any idea about processes and managing teams in pressure environments? or are you all still at college regurgitating your theory text books??

 

[hadi123]

I agree it's annoying after a game where we are simply just outplayed by the opposition but I think it's right to be frustrated after this loss because we really should have won it...It's so frustrating to lose a game you dominated for so long

 

[happydavy]

Tbh most times Pakistani fans are too restless and criticize a few players a bit too much. I have no doubt that Pakistani players follow this forum and it could be disheartening for them to see things written about them. But today is a day when the team actually deserves the criticism coming their way. It's unacceptable to loose on home grounds in such a bizarre manner.

 

[aloo paratha]

Yeah I agree, it's not the end of the world but it just doesn't sit well.

The problem is, we lose a game, and all of a sudden the whole team, plus coaching staff needs to be replaced, we are minnows, worse than Zimbabwe. Next game, we win, all of a sudden we're favorites to win our next 10 series and India is afraid to play us. There's no in between.

 

[Chokli]

so every player in the team has been playing in the UAE for ten years? Id see how your shooperishtaars would fair if they couldnt play in your doctored cricket environment..we saw what happened to these pretenders in england and then SA..dont get on your high horse about your fake team and fake cricketing nation..

At least they wouldn't make themselves look like fools at home.

 

[Chokli]

The problem is, we lose a game, and all of a sudden the whole team, plus coaching staff needs to be replaced, we are minnows, worse than Zimbabwe. Next game, we win, all of a sudden we're favorites to win our next 10 series and India is afraid to play us. There's no in between.

I would understand if it was overseas.

But we need to play better cricket, we can't have alien teams beat us at our home.

 

[Kaka4pope]

Chastising loss, as there is a decent batting line up there. Some horrendous shots in both innings and given how often, it’s something the management need to account for.

Our bowling and fielding levels/intensity have improved - batting remains stagnant despite there being potential.

 

[MMHS]

I don't think, fans become negative after every loss. Everyone including myself praised lot after the Brisbane loss or even after 2nd Test against SRL last year.

But, is this a way to lose a Test? What does one should expect fans to react if you lose a Test after losing 7 for 23 with 29 to win? Some of the losses in recent times are

- losing a Test after losing 8-9 wickets in a session to NZ, ENG & AUS
- bundled out for 81 chasing 170 ish target
- losing to one bowler chasing 135
- losing inside 7 sessions, very next match after winning a Test

least said about ODI is better - Asia Cup was just one example.

 

[Shandarchowka]

We've been hearing this excuse since 2009

So you think Misbah's and Younis' retirements haven't had any impact on our team's fortunes? Babar, Haris are still finding feet in test cricket. The only good established batsmen we have are Azhar and Asad. Given how inconsistent Asad is these days, no wonder we're struggling. Hafeez and Sarfraz need to get their act right.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

No changes are not needed..this is a result of changes. Have any of you any idea about processes and managing teams in pressure environments? or are you all still at college regurgitating your theory text books??

this is a result of changes?

Well let's see


Imam- been around for a year or so

Hafeez - been around forever

Azhar - been around for 8 years

Harris - been around the scene for years but new

Shafiq - been around for 6/7 years

Babar - been around for 2 years or so

Sarfraz - been around for 4/5 years

Bilal - new

Yasir - been around 3 years or so

Hassan - newish to test

Abbas - around for year or so

The bowling is "new" but that's not the problem. 5 out of the 7 batsmen have been around for years. Logic would dictate that atleast 3 of those 5 have to make way for new people to have any hope of turning it around. One of those making way has to be Sarfraz.

But you carry on bury your head in sand and pretend all will be well.

 

[mystical man]

No changes are not needed..this is a result of changes. Have any of you any idea about processes and managing teams in pressure environments? or are you all still at college regurgitating your theory text books??

At 137-3 and then going on to loose the game by 4 runs is a shock against the likes of part timers like patel and you are dreaming of defeating India in their backyard?

 

[topspin]

Its not just one off test match, fans have short memories...In last 3 years we have lost 7/8 test matches with those collapses and brain farts...As I pointed out earlier, even we would have lost 2 test in England, if we there were no Shadab and Fahim.

First off, all these seniors are mostly gutless, Shafiq still keep getting out by poking at harmless deliveries after 50+ test and 8 years, how much more training he needs to take the ownership?? - He could not hold #4 spot and have to yield it to Harris.

Azhar Ali is gutless batsman, who is a partnership killer, He is Misbah 2.0 with one less shot (slog over cow corner, that took Misbah's SR of 25 to 35). What saved Misbah all these years was YK, who was the true main stray of Pakistani batting lineup. Shafiq and Azhar was suppose to man up and take that role, both of them are still trying to hide behind others, as they have been doing for last decade...Azhar has no shots what so ever, if he has to play, opening is the only position, he is not no 3, he is not suited at all for that role. You have to take game forward at that position, Azhar has never done that, at best he can stall the game...

Hafeez, what can I say, he is like Pakistan Army, if he does something, we have to be thankful. Otherwise their main purpose is the threat they possesses. Like our Army, threat goes significantly down as we travel west or when we are in crisis. He is the first one to look for cover after 15 years of investment

Sarfraz, we have a habit of making non-playing Captain. Pakistan is so obsessed with Captaincy and seniority, I don't know how things can be worse with young Captain?? - Pakistan manage to loose 6 tests in a row in west with team loaded with seniors, with similar collapses. This season we could not beat AUS in first test and now loss like that, so far we have only played 3 test at home. How worse things can go??

In this generation all our batting investments have gone wasted. Hafeez, Azhar, Shafiq, Malik, Sarfraz all of them turned out to be disappointing. In last generation we had MoYo, YK, Misbah, Inzi, now that is regression in many ways...Problem is you just cannot through away all those investments, you have to suffer through them for another 5 years or so

Couldn't agree more - Misbah's success in UAE as batsman and ultimately as skipper was all because of Younis Khan's immense ability to carry the battling line up. He single handedly dismantled the opposition spinners - which would allow other batsmen to feed off the pressure he was exerting on to the bowling side.

As for Azhar Ali, yes he was gutless today and today's match just proved his inability to lead from the front. Since the retirement of YK his batting has got even slower and is perhaps regressing. I think the biggest mistake was not retaining him (to make way for the atrocious Hafeez) as an opener where he has averaged the highest at that batting spot - after 35 innings at an average of 47.

As he bats down the order his averages and SR actually get worse. His role in the side should solely be getting past the new ball and thus provide a platform to the middle order. Needs to be told that playing Pujara-esque innings of 22 runs off 95 balls is just unacceptable at international level.

Overall this deserves POTW.

 

[Executioner]

Pakistan fans are one of the most wrist slitting ones I have seen.

India, Pak, BD fans all indulge in it but Pakistan are the worst of the lot.

Chill bros, this was a close contest. NZ had advantage of batting first too.

 

[Savak]

This is not restricted to Pakistan, the likes of England and Australia make sweeping changes as well whenever they lose a series really badly.

 

[Swashbuckler]

You are no worse than Indians and Bangladeshis in this regard. This was a close loss, a match you had no right to lose so it will hurt more.

 

[Saj]

Pakistan and its players deserve all the criticism they are receiving today.

It was an abysmal and amateur run chase. The NZ attack had no Shane Warne or Murali in it, but the way Pakistan folded was just pathetic.

 

[James]

I didn’t watch any of the match, but the scorecard seems to show that Pakistan were cruising in the chase at 130/3 and then suddenly they lost 7 wickets for barely 40 runs, contriving to lose the game? Sounds pretty bad to me.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan and its players deserve all the criticism they are receiving today.

It was an abysmal and amateur run chase. The NZ attack had no Shane Warne or Murali in it, but the way Pakistan folded was just pathetic.

I would go easy on criticizing. When players who have played for 60 plus test matches show a shocking lack of temperament under the face of the slightest of pressures, you can't blame the juniors then.

 

[Sirris]

These fans are annoying. All they do is cry and make noise.

I couldn't watch, so idk what happened...

You didn't watch so you don't have the right to judge.

It is very frustrating to seeing your hopes shattered like that. A sure win turnaround into a comedy session. So many good moments in the match and in the end it was all gifted to NZ. After Babar's dismal it was just a fight for who can get to the pavilion faster.

 

[sjahmed23]

sarfraz can’t handle captaincy someone please relieve him.

 

[PakHammer]

They deserve criticism with pathetic defeats like this. After all, dont they dine out with the praise when they win such as Champions Trophy? The social media adulation and appearances on talk shows was cringe worthy.

Be classy in victory and be classy in defeat. This current set believes it's own hype and cant deliver chasing small targets in fourth innings to win test matches at home? Twice in 12 months at our 'home' have we failed to chase small fourth innings targets. Heads needs to roll for our test team and this begins with the captain. Let him be ODI captain only and yes it pains me to say it but Mohsin Khan is right about Safaraz. Not many teams can carry a non performing captain and Pakistan is certainly not one of them.

 

[CadPakFan]

My XI for the next game would be

Azhar
Imam
Asad
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Shadab
Yasir
Hasan
Abbas

 

[mystical man]

Indeed i think the legacy left behind by the greats of 90's is too much for the current lot to fill and digest as well.Reality is dawning upon the supporters of Pakistan.

 

[Saj]

I would go easy on criticizing. When players who have played for 60 plus test matches show a shocking lack of temperament under the face of the slightest of pressures, you can't blame the juniors then.

Collectively the batsmen deserve criticism - experienced or inexperienced, they were awful.

 

[Hasan123]

Infact, world should thank us for keeping test cricket alive by nail-biting matches like this which only Pakistan can produce. The reason for why test cricket was dying was because teams like India keep inviting minnows into their home and thrashing them to maintain the number 1 ranking. One side dominating in test match is what makes test cricket dull.

So you would rather entertain and lose than win games? )

The end of the game was entertaining but the whole match wasn't. What is entertaining about watching Azhar Ali and co dead bat for 90 odd overs ?

Also India beat NZ,Sri Lanka,and West Indies without even losing a game in there last test series at home. We lost a test to all of them. So we can't even beat lesser teams at home and your calling India "minnow bashers"

Our fans truly have no shame.

 

[JaDed]

Infact, world should thank us for keeping test cricket alive by nail-biting matches like this which only Pakistan can produce. The reason for why test cricket was dying was because teams like India keep inviting minnows into their home and thrashing them to maintain the number 1 ranking. One side dominating in test match is what makes test cricket dull.

Which minnows India invited?

 

[rhony]

Yes it's a bad defeat but don't forget the two most important events in the game. Babar's run out and Haris getting caught on full tosses. Both of these are brain fades. Both are decent batsmen and should value their wickets more. As far as Azhar is concerned, this was his best innings in a while. It's brutal to criticize him here. He was the last Man standing and just got out to a marginal decision off a great ball. Pakistan will need to iron out there carless dismissals by the next game. Winning the toss is crucial and they should win the next game.

 

[rhony]

Which minnows India invited?

SA, Eng, AUS, NZ, WI, afg(1 test), BD (1 test).

Pak and Zim didn't play in recent times and are the only non minnows.

 

[Savak]

Pakistan Cricket has been extremely poor for a long time now. Even experts become brutal after a few defeats so you can't expect fans to be level headed

 

[the_game]

Its not just one off test match, fans have short memories...In last 3 years we have lost 7/8 test matches with those collapses and brain farts...As I pointed out earlier, even we would have lost 2 test in England, if we there were no Shadab and Fahim.

First off, all these seniors are mostly gutless, Shafiq still keep getting out by poking at harmless deliveries after 50+ test and 8 years, how much more training he needs to take the ownership?? - He could not hold #4 spot and have to yield it to Harris.

Azhar Ali is gutless batsman, who is a partnership killer, He is Misbah 2.0 with one less shot (slog over cow corner, that took Misbah's SR of 25 to 35). What saved Misbah all these years was YK, who was the true main stray of Pakistani batting lineup. Shafiq and Azhar was suppose to man up and take that role, both of them are still trying to hide behind others, as they have been doing for last decade...Azhar has no shots what so ever, if he has to play, opening is the only position, he is not no 3, he is not suited at all for that role. You have to take game forward at that position, Azhar has never done that, at best he can stall the game...

Hafeez, what can I say, he is like Pakistan Army, if he does something, we have to be thankful. Otherwise their main purpose is the threat they possesses. Like our Army, threat goes significantly down as we travel west or when we are in crisis. He is the first one to look for cover after 15 years of investment

Sarfraz, we have a habit of making non-playing Captain. Pakistan is so obsessed with Captaincy and seniority, I don't know how things can be worse with young Captain?? - Pakistan manage to loose 6 tests in a row in west with team loaded with seniors, with similar collapses. This season we could not beat AUS in first test and now loss like that, so far we have only played 3 test at home. How worse things can go??

In this generation all our batting investments have gone wasted. Hafeez, Azhar, Shafiq, Malik, Sarfraz all of them turned out to be disappointing. In last generation we had MoYo, YK, Misbah, Inzi, now that is regression in many ways...Problem is you just cannot through away all those investments, you have to suffer through them for another 5 years or so

Could not have put it any better. The saaya of Misbah lives on unfortunately, if only we can find one gutsy batsman in the mould of Younis the future would look a lot brighter.

 

[the Great Khan]

At 137-3 and then going on to loose the game by 4 runs is a shock against the likes of part timers like patel and you are dreaming of defeating ���� India in their backyard?

dreaming where? All i'm saying is when playing against India the rules go out of the window..plz dont hype up India more than they deserve too..they arent gods..

 

[Zakaz]

dreaming where? All i'm saying is when playing against India the rules go out of the window..plz dont hype up India more than they deserve too..they arent gods..

Were you alive during the asia cup? lol, have to admit, India is light years ahead of us

 

[the Great Khan]

Were you alive during the asia cup? lol, have to admit, India is light years ahead of us

thats ODI cricket. I'm talking test match cricket. Were you alive in the CT?

 

[CricVet]

Were you alive during the asia cup? lol, have to admit, India is light years ahead of us

LOL light years were seen in England. Pak cricket is full of shocks. Our cavalier attitude in every part of life shows up in cricket and no wonder why our brand is the most mercurial out there. That is why we are loved by the cricket world. We build the best roller coasters of cricket. Today you can label it as awful but by the end of next 5 tests, you may differ in your opinion.

 

[Zakaz]

thats ODI cricket. I'm talking test match cricket. Were you alive in the CT?

So CT was in test cricket? lol

 

[Zakaz]

LOL light years were seen in England. Pak cricket is full of shocks. Our cavalier attitude in every part of life shows up in cricket and no wonder why our brand is the most mercurial out there. That is why we are loved by the cricket world. We build the best roller coasters of cricket. Today you can label it as awful but by the end of next 5 tests, you may differ in your opinion.

Say what you want but we are ranked 7th in tests

 

[RyanRyan10]

so every player in the team has been playing in the UAE for ten years? Id see how your shooperishtaars would fair if they couldnt play in your doctored cricket environment..we saw what happened to these pretenders in england and then SA..dont get on your high horse about your fake team and fake cricketing nation..

Love your frustration
Dragging India into discussion when the poster who made criticism on Pakistan team isn't even an Indian

 

[the Great Khan]

Love your frustration
Dragging India into discussion when the poster who made criticism on Pakistan team isn't even an Indian

yes enjoy it. says more about you and your ilk than me. You are merely confirming my conclusions of people like you so thanks.