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Why has Imran Khan failed to revive the fortunes of Pakistan cricket?

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Title says it all. I am a big fan of the legend Imran Khan for his innovative, fearless approach and never give up attitude. We saw all these qualities in 1992 World Cup. So I had high hope to revive our cricket from what it was but seems like its going worse since Misbah and Waqar took the job off from Mickey and Azhar. I thought both Micky and Azhar was poor to lift our cricket but now it look worse than ever. So far most of the appointment made by Imran Khan failed miserably. The appointment of lack of personality and timid character Mani, good for nothing and boastful Wasim Khan, clueless and unskilled who doesn't even meet the job criteria Misbah, serial failure Waqar, some unknown unskilled fielding coach....

If Imran Khan really wants to improve our cricket he needs to sack all these blood sucking leeches (May be give final chance to Wasim Khan to prove himself) and replace them with skilled and professional people and coaches.

Your opinion please!!!
 
Title says it all. I am a big fan of the legend Imran Khan for his innovative, fearless approach and never give up attitude. We saw all these qualities in 1992 World Cup. So I had high hope to revive our cricket from what it was but seems like its going worse since Misbah and Waqar took the job off from Mickey and Azhar. I thought both Micky and Azhar was poor to lift our cricket but now it look worse than ever. So far most of the appointment made by Imran Khan failed miserably. The appointment of lack of personality and timid character Mani, good for nothing and boastful Wasim Khan, clueless and unskilled who doesn't even meet the job criteria Misbah, serial failure Waqar, some unknown unskilled fielding coach....

If Imran Khan really wants to improve our cricket he needs to sack all these blood sucking leeches (May be give final chance to Wasim Khan to prove himself) and replace them with skilled and professional people and coaches.

Your opinion please!!!

Imran khan is not the cricket team captain anymore, hes the prime minister of the country now :))
 
No point in blaming Imran Khan. Blame the players and the team management.
 
IK is to blame because he was adamant about Misbah’s appointment.

Misbah and Waqar are inseparable.
 
I don't understand why some fans love to put the blame of every misery on Imran Khan's lap. He is neither in the team nor is he in the team management.
 
IK is to blame because he was adamant about Misbah’s appointment.

Misbah and Waqar are inseparable.

How come he was given 5-6 roles at the same time? Yes, the backing was there, but 5-6 roles at the same time was very strange.
 
Well he did talk like he had a magic wand or something :rabada2

you have to be an idiot to believe someone can dramatically change things with deep structural problems overnight. The issue is the supporters of Imran Khan not Imran Khan himself.
 
Imran khan is not the cricket team captain anymore, hes the prime minister of the country now :))

Also the PM is the Patron of the PCB. And he selects the chairman. Moving just a decade and a half back, Khan used to consistently bash the leader of the country for the state the cricket is in. Starting from blaming Musharraf for everything wrong with cricket, and then moving to taunting the politicians to justifying Amir and Asif's spot fixing. And then most recently calling the PSL a disgrace because the PMLN was responsible for bringing it back. There is no doubt Khan is partly to blame for the state of the cricket like he always critcized others
 
I have said this before and will say it again Imran Khan is not the problem, his supporters are the problem
 
you have to be an idiot to believe someone can dramatically change things with deep structural problems overnight. The issue is the supporters of Imran Khan not Imran Khan himself.

Who you calling idiotic? :rabada2

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Wasim was also given his blessing.

Wasim Khan or Wasim Akram? I don't recall Akram playing role in PCB. You must be talking about Wasim Khan. I don't know much about PCB to judge people, but Misbah getting so many roles without any experience looked odd. Especially after reading that he sat in the group which fired the previous coach. That's very unethical.
 
Imran as PM can only give words and false promises to the nation. He cannot deliver.

Anyone who was fooled by his “I will fix PCB and make Pakistan the best team in the world” has no one else to blame.
 
Wasim Khan or Wasim Akram? I don't recall Akram playing role in PCB. You must be talking about Wasim Khan. I don't know much about PCB to judge people, but Misbah getting so many roles without any experience looked odd. Especially after reading that he sat in the group which fired the previous coach. That's very unethical.

Both since Akram is pretty much IK’s protege (IK is his guru), he has said so for years himself.

All major decisions are made with the blessing of the PM, since he is the Chief Patron of the PCB.
 
Imran as PM can only give words and false promises to the nation. He cannot deliver.

Anyone who was fooled by his “I will fix PCB and make Pakistan the best team in the world” has no one else to blame.

I must say, Imran Khan has mastered the art of fooling an emotional population. No matter how much the condition of country deteriorates under him, the blame will always go to the previous rulers and he will easily win the next election too because he's "honest"
 
Both since Akram is pretty much IK’s protege (IK is his guru), he has said so for years himself.

All major decisions are made with the blessing of the PM, since he is the Chief Patron of the PCB.

Probably that style worked in the 80s, but without developing institutions it will be hard to produce long-term results.
 
I must say, Imran Khan has mastered the art of fooling an emotional population. No matter how much the condition of country deteriorates under him, the blame will always go to the previous rulers and he will easily win the next election too because he's "honest"

His supporters have created a very convenient situation. Anything good happens is because of Imran, but anything bad happens is because of the previous regimes.

This way, Imran and his government will not face any accountability and will always be protected from criticism.

As long as Pakistan is losing, it is because the mess is too big to fix. However, if Pakistan wins by fluke, it is because of Imran Khan’s leadership.

Luckily Pakistan fluked the Champions Trophy under Nawaz Sharif and Najam Sethi. Imagine if they had done that under Imran Khan and Wasim Khan.

Our fans won’t shut up about the cornered tigers effect and how Imran inspired the team and gave us another gift like 1992. :klopp
 
His supporters have created a very convenient situation. Anything good happens is because of Imran, but anything bad happens is because of the previous regimes.

Apart from the difference in personal attitudes to minorities, there appear to be lots of similarities between the IK regime and the Modi regime.

Still believe Imran is a decent person at heart though, unlike.... :rabada2
 
IK has this foolish idea that 6 teams will magically transform us into Australian team lool. Not knowing that there are so many other reasons why makes them an elite team. He doesn’t know a thing about reforming cricket despite being one of the greatest cricketer ever. He should look at the quality of domestic cricketers in this season to have an idea.
 
IK has this foolish idea that 6 teams will magically transform us into Australian team lool. Not knowing that there are so many other reasons why makes them an elite team. He doesn’t know a thing about reforming cricket despite being one of the greatest cricketer ever. He should look at the quality of domestic cricketers in this season to have an idea.

I keep saying this but Australia just opened Joe Burns and Matthew Wade in a test match. How are they ELITE?
 
Unfortunately the country has taken a reverse gear in every field once IK has assumed office. Why sports in general and cricket in specific should be an exception.
 
Haha well someone is delusional...you guys are as bad as Trump supporters

30 years of corrupt mediocrity can be fixed in 2 years? Only idiots can believe that. Fixing cricket at the grassroots level will take years and years, then we will start seeing the results.

The misbah decision was wrong and hopefully will be corrected.
 
I mean the government should have no say on the cricket, it should be it's own organization..Even if the prime minister is one of the greatest ever
 
30 years of corrupt mediocrity can be fixed in 2 years? Only idiots can believe that. Fixing cricket at the grassroots level will take years and years, then we will start seeing the results.

The misbah decision was wrong and hopefully will be corrected.

Can you give us a rough estimate of when we should expect to see results? Or is it down to the convenience of Imran and his government?

By what year will we be allowed to criticize this regime for Pakistan’s performance? 2030, 2050?
 
Yes IK was supposed to stop running our country and come save our Cricket. Smh
 
If the state of Pakistan cricket improved under his regime.

Imran fans would be like:

“Credit goes to him and his great vision. He turned things around for Pakistan cricket as PM just like did when he was captain. The great Kaptaan”.

If Pakistan cricket doesn’t improve under his regime.

Imran fans would be like:

“The blame goes to the previous regimes. Their corruption and incompetence made it impossible to turn things around. Imran tried his best but the mess was too big to clear. You cannot fault a man for trying. Well done Kaptaan”

The problem is that not everyone is a fool with a double digit IQ. Something that Imran and his supporters fail to understand.
 
Yes IK was supposed to stop running our country and come save our Cricket. Smh

News from 2016 :

Pakistan‘s former captain and top opposition leader Imran Khan has strongly criticised Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and a top official of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) for damaging the sport in the country. In a series of tweets, Imran who led Pakistan to their only World Cup title in 1992 accused Sharif of appointing an “election fixer” to “fix” Pakistani cricket. Although, Khan didn’t take any name but the reference was seen as hinting at Najam Sethi, a former PCB chairman who now heads the board’s executive committee.

“The reason cricket has, unlike elsewhere, failed to become an institution in Pak is because here PM appoints PCB Chief,” Khan tweeted. “Correct analysis of current cricket crisis can lead to reforms & take Pak to top of world cricket. Incorrect analysis will compound failure,” he said in another tweet. Sethi served as a caretaker Chief Minister in Punjab province when the general elections were held and when the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) came into power.

Khan has in the past accused Sethi of fixing the election. He said Sharif has “perfected the art of cronyism” and had appointed an “election fixer” to “fix” Pakistani cricket. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) leader also blamed “political pressure” and “cronyism” for the international team’s “consistent poor performances.” Khan’s solution to Pakistan’s woes is to “insulate” cricket from “political pressure.” He also maintained that domestic cricket structure needed to be overhauled so that it can produce players with the right “temperament” and “technique.”

Imran called for increasing the number of cricket grounds and said the PCB should stop unnecessary expenditures. He proposed a domestic cricket circuit on the lines of Australia, where all talent is “concentrated in six regional teams” and all departments instead of fielding their own teams should support the regional teams.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...all-in-international-cricket-due-to-pm-423818
 
I don't understand why some fans love to put the blame of every misery on Imran Khan's lap. He is neither in the team nor is he in the team management.

IK is responsible for everything that happens in Pakistan. May not be directly but buck stops with him.
 
His supporters have created a very convenient situation. Anything good happens is because of Imran, but anything bad happens is because of the previous regimes.

This way, Imran and his government will not face any accountability and will always be protected from criticism.

As long as Pakistan is losing, it is because the mess is too big to fix. However, if Pakistan wins by fluke, it is because of Imran Khan’s leadership.

Luckily Pakistan fluked the Champions Trophy under Nawaz Sharif and Najam Sethi. Imagine if they had done that under Imran Khan and Wasim Khan.

Our fans won’t shut up about the cornered tigers effect and how Imran inspired the team and gave us another gift like 1992. :klopp

This looks so similar to India. Everything good happens bcoz of Modi. Everything bad is fault of nehru & Congress & opposition :P

ps : Dont know much about Pakistan politics
 
He already destroyed cricket by pulling out departments because nobody would take cricket as career now why would anyone waste his life and gamble his chance
 
IK is responsible for everything that happens in Pakistan. May not be directly but buck stops with him.

I think People of Pakistan are also responsible for the things that happen in Pakistan.


IMO, Imran made a bad call to put Mani on the helm.

Mani who is way pass his retirement had little to no idea AND no energy to fix it all so he hired Wasim Khan, who also had no idea how to fix it, so to cover his own rear end, he hired Misbah to fix it all.

And Misbah had no idea either so he teamed up with Waqar (another 4 times failure) and made sure to truly create a disaster - and then he sends two kids to the presser to face the media.


Imran Khan can’t do anything if the people of the country are not honest with their work and with their responsibilities!
 
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Well he's still the Patron in Chief so he can take important decisions. This excuse is getting old that he has many other important things to take care of or he doesn't have time for cricket. Pakistan's cricket is at it's lowest and we are quickly becoming a laughing stock.

The one thing which we expected to flourish under IK is in shambles so I can only imagine about the rest of the country.
 
Same will be said in a few years if you remove cricket from the title :shezzy2
 
Takes time to build a competitive side, with the overhaul of the domestic system patience is clearly required, also congrats to the kiwis for their continued dominance at home ..
 
I criticized Imran Khan mainly for his dumb appointments like of Misbah, Waqar and Mani. Had he appointed professional and skilled people in those position our team would be improve at least a bit where Micky left off instead of this big slide. Nothing political. Imran Khan can still mend his appointments.
 
The reality is that Imran Khan has to be held responsible because he made the key appointments.

The PCB isnt independent of the government in Pakistan like the ECB is in England.

Let me give you an example Wasim Khan the current chairman was brought up and lived in the UK, and he was imported on the behest of the PM.

And those people saying that change doesn't take place overnight would not have said this for previous administrations, the fact is that by all observable standards cricket in Pakistan has gotten worse than what it was before Imran Khan. Given that change takes time, but we haven't seen a single area of improvement.
 
Imran Khan is a good talker but is clueless when it comes to action as shown by the poor economic condition the country currently is in due to the incompetence of his team.

I guess that is also reflecting on the cricket as well.
 
Imran Khan is very distant from the game. He still thinks of cricket like it was in the 80's. Coupled with it are the guys like Misbah & Waqar who are stuck in the 90's. Infact the whole Pakistani mindset is stuck in the 90's. A recipe for disaster.
 
He already destroyed cricket by pulling out departments because nobody would take cricket as career now why would anyone waste his life and gamble his chance

There is no grassroot cricket right now for last two years and no wonder cricketers are leaving Pakistan because of such low packages being offered to play domestic cricket. Likes of Zeeshan Ashraf and Shoaib Maqsood left FC to play US open :)).

Only poor people would want to play cricket who have no options in life.
 
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Some deluded fans were under the impression that IK possesses a magic wand & will transform Pak cricket. The reality is, IK is out of touch when it comes to cricket - I doubt he knows the names of the current Xl!
 
A ridiculous proposition!

Imran Khan is the Prime Minister, and not the Minister of Sports. Cricket is and should be way down in his priority list.
 
A ridiculous proposition!

Imran Khan is the Prime Minister, and not the Minister of Sports. Cricket is and should be way down in his priority list.

Tbf, he did state he will fix FC cricket & more if he is appointed PM
 
Imran Khan doesn't have a magic wand to fix things. He has not watched cricket regularly for years. Does he even understand the modern game?
 
A ridiculous proposition!

Imran Khan is the Prime Minister, and not the Minister of Sports. Cricket is and should be way down in his priority list.

That's a silly statement, Imran Khan is the patron and responsible for appointing the Chair and CEO. In fact Imran imported Wasim Khan.

Going by your logic, if food prices go up and the countries GDP falls do you say it's not Imran Khan its the finance minister.

By your logic then is the sports minister responsible? who appointed the sports minister?
 
wht we all forget is how stupid it sounds when u say "hasnt done it just yet" ...

took us years to destroy our hockey and squash teams...but just for the sake of understanding

1) domestic setup has started cleaning the Tried and Tested bullies out... we have seen in past years how it was the Khurram Manzoorz and Kamran Akmals and Saddaf Hussains and Tabish Khanz and Rahat Aliz coming and making runs and runs and runs and wickets on wickets.. they have been thrown out and exposed with all new deserving guys making the light

2) showing live games on domestic structure... means that now no1 can hide.. people are able to see how good or bad you are.... previously no1 could watch the games and just went on scores which meant it was sooo easy to pay & display (long story dont ask lol)

3)we have sponsors coming in for domestic games which means the domestic sides will have money to invest in foreign coaches and technical staff...

4) the myth of T20s is being exposed and more empesis is going on domestic which is making sense...


its all a process ... and it takes time.. took india a good part of 15 years to fix it when they had all the money in the world... give these guys some time atleast
 
A provocative heading.

All leaders need time. There will be some tests that will fail and some that will succeed. There is no magic wand.

There is plenty good that's happening in Pakistan cricket but plenty that needs fixing. I do think Misbah experiment was a big folly but a good leader knows when to discard something not working, very decisively and quickly. Hope that happens.

I am willing to give Imran experiment a very long rope.
 
wht we all forget is how stupid it sounds when u say "hasnt done it just yet" ...

took us years to destroy our hockey and squash teams...but just for the sake of understanding

1) domestic setup has started cleaning the Tried and Tested bullies out... we have seen in past years how it was the Khurram Manzoorz and Kamran Akmals and Saddaf Hussains and Tabish Khanz and Rahat Aliz coming and making runs and runs and runs and wickets on wickets.. they have been thrown out and exposed with all new deserving guys making the light

2) showing live games on domestic structure... means that now no1 can hide.. people are able to see how good or bad you are.... previously no1 could watch the games and just went on scores which meant it was sooo easy to pay & display (long story dont ask lol)

3)we have sponsors coming in for domestic games which means the domestic sides will have money to invest in foreign coaches and technical staff...

4) the myth of T20s is being exposed and more empesis is going on domestic which is making sense...


its all a process ... and it takes time.. took india a good part of 15 years to fix it when they had all the money in the world... give these guys some time atleast

Do you mind if I ask? Would love to hear the story
 
So how long will it take approximately to show results?

I agree it will take time, but “it will take time” is vague. It could mean 2 years, 5 years, 20 years, 50 years or a million years.

By what date can we blame the current PCB regime and the patron PM for the embarrassing performances?

I want to mark my calendar.
 
That's a silly statement, Imran Khan is the patron and responsible for appointing the Chair and CEO. In fact Imran imported Wasim Khan.

Going by your logic, if food prices go up and the countries GDP falls do you say it's not Imran Khan its the finance minister.

By your logic then is the sports minister responsible? who appointed the sports minister?

Prime ministers appoint others for a reason - they can't possibly handle everything themselves. Imran Khan has appointed Wasim Khan to run PCB only because as a PM, he has a million other more important things to look after.

Of course, Imran Khan is responsible if Wasim Khan fails in his mission, but the primary blame has to lie on Wasim. The least Imran can do is to sack Wasim and find another person to run the show.

No point blaming the PM for this.
 
So how long will it take approximately to show results?

I agree it will take time, but “it will take time” is vague. It could mean 2 years, 5 years, 20 years, 50 years or a million years.

By what date can we blame the current PCB regime and the patron PM for the embarrassing performances?

I want to mark my calendar.

It is all **

There is actual zero grass root cricket for last 2 years, no investment is being done apart domestic season. No infrastructure enhancement, no plan to increase cricket participation among youth, just give fancy titles to Saqlain and Nadeem to fools fan like him to show they are doing something :)). At the end change the name from NCA to HPC but everything in the academy remains the same lol
 
It is all **

There is actual zero grass root cricket for last 2 years, no investment is being done apart domestic season. No infrastructure enhancement, no plan to increase cricket participation among youth, just give fancy titles to Saqlain and Nadeem to fools fan like him to show they are doing something :)). At the end change the name from NCA to HPC but everything in the academy remains the same lol

Yeah, he appointed a director to director to director to director to high performance international player development bla bla and the fans started distributing mithai, even though they couldn’t even comprehend the job descriptions.

This drama of reforming FC structure will also end in tears. Those who are fantasizing the rise of Pakistan cricket over the next 4-5 years are in for a bitter disappointment. Absolutely nothing will change.
 
He already destroyed cricket by pulling out departments because nobody would take cricket as career now why would anyone waste his life and gamble his chance

How many international cricketers did these departments produce in last 20 years ? Cricket is not an employment bureau, if they cannot make the grade then they cannot expect any charity. Old system was rightly discarded, standard of domestic cricket was awful with too many over the hill uncles and youngsters being lost in the system.

Recent 20/21 QEA Trophy was the most competitive ever so new system will bear fruit but we need better coaches at grassroots level to nurture the talent.

However PCB must set up the 6 regional associations ASAP so club and city cricket is revived. That'll create plenty of playing, coaching and umpiring opportunities. Then there'll be a proper pathway for first time from school, club, city, U19, 2nd XI and FC cricket.
 
Prime ministers appoint others for a reason - they can't possibly handle everything themselves. Imran Khan has appointed Wasim Khan to run PCB only because as a PM, he has a million other more important things to look after.

Of course, Imran Khan is responsible if Wasim Khan fails in his mission, but the primary blame has to lie on Wasim. The least Imran can do is to sack Wasim and find another person to run the show.

No point blaming the PM for this.

So is he the PM to blame for appointing the wrong person in the first place?

And will he the PM be responsible if he doesn't sack Wasim Khan soon?
 
Yeah, he appointed a director to director to director to director to high performance international player development bla bla and the fans started distributing mithai, even though they couldn’t even comprehend the job descriptions.

This drama of reforming FC structure will also end in tears. Those who are fantasizing the rise of Pakistan cricket over the next 4-5 years are in for a bitter disappointment. Absolutely nothing will change.

The tone of your posts change in 3 year periods. Not sure why Pakistan cricket cannot change in the next 4-5 years if the right based is laid out now rather than never.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] - bro, Imran might be a failure as PM, I don’t know, BUT trust me (& you know me) - this state of PAK cricket is “not because of the revised model, rather despite of the restructuring”. You have no idea where it could have gone.

You see, for about 5 years (I wrote it sometimes around 2014), trolls here have tried to get under my skin to write :”.... if PAK’s domestic cricket structure doesn’t change, PAK might play WC qualifier for 2023 - that’s Kenya, Afghanistan or Holland”.... it went to Nepal & Uganda courtesy to the trolls ....... but for last few months I don’t see that “josh” even among those.... this time courtesy to PCT. For a record, I want to put it here - PAK team had to hide from WIN in 2016, so that they don’t drop out of top 8 and miss CT 2017, wasn’t a pleasant scenario - PAK domestic cricket was that bad.....

One another improvement I have noticed in PP in recent times is that, now I see people writing about money, infrastructure, system, facilities, development,.....etc. as a reason for the free fall of PAK cricket - which is an irony to be honest - if you have that much natural talunt, why do you need money or system....? Isn’t that for talunt less, beta gin?

What Imran is trying is the basic fundamentals - without that cricket even won’t exist in PAK in future as a major sports. But, if it doesn’t bring success, it’s not the fault of the system (or revamp) only - lots of other factors are there. Still there is professional soccer played, still there are several top quality academies functional, still there is enough money - but still Hungary is free falling in soccer from the glory of Puskas/Kokcis/Zibor era...... one reason is that, system is not everything but the main reason is that if you fall behind, you have to run at faster than the average speed of world, because rest are not sitting idle.

Anyway, probably not the best day to write this, but trust me - you have no idea where it could have ended had that corporate model with mercenary system going on for another decade.
 
The tone of your posts change in 3 year periods. Not sure why Pakistan cricket cannot change in the next 4-5 years if the right based is laid out now rather than never.

You can write my name on a piece of paper like you did over the summer when I said Naseem will fail in England.

Unfortunately, you will have to throw this piece of paper away as well. I am telling you now. I know the reality of Pakistan cricket like the back of my hand.

No matter what gymnastics we perform, nothing will change in 4-5 years for one reason or the other.

You can call me out in 2025-26 if Pakistan becomes an elite said by then, but don’t worry, I will not rub it in when Pakistan will still be languishing in the mid-table thanks to mediocre cricketers hyped out of desperation by delusional fans.
 
You can write my name on a piece of paper like you did over the summer when I said Naseem will fail in England.

Unfortunately, you will have to throw this piece of paper away as well. I am telling you now. I know the reality of Pakistan cricket like the back of my hand.

No matter what gymnastics we perform, nothing will change in 4-5 years for one reason or the other.

You can call me out in 2025-26 if Pakistan becomes an elite said by then, but don’t worry, I will not rub it in when Pakistan will still be languishing in the mid-table thanks to mediocre cricketers hyped out of desperation by delusional fans.

So then what should we do? Write your name on a piece of paper...frame it and place it on our walls with the demise of Pakistan cricket’s date underneath your name? Would that satisfy your sadistic lust or seeing the team lose?

Why don’t we just fold up our cricket board/side/ domestics+ grassroots if there is nothing that can be done to improve?

Let’s hear it
 
India has spent decades on nurturing fast bowlers and are only now seeing some spare results.


I mean, you'll must be really dim if you think Imran (or anyone) can make changes in a few years.
 
So then what should we do? Write your name on a piece of paper...frame it and place it on our walls with the demise of Pakistan cricket’s date underneath your name? Would that satisfy your sadistic lust or seeing the team lose?

Why don’t we just fold up our cricket board/side/ domestics+ grassroots if there is nothing that can be done to improve?

Let’s hear it

Pakistani fans have to lower their expectations. The real problem in Pakistan cricket is not the board, the coaches and the players. The real problem is fan expectations.

Pakistan has no divine right to be an elite cricket nation. No team does, but some teams reach that level while others don’t. Just like some players become legends while others don’t. It is just how life works.

Millions of fans across the globe in multiple sports support teams that are weak. They don’t moan about how weak they are because they are not delusional. They have simply made peace with their standing and their status and they find joy in it.

Support weak teams is also a pleasurable experience as long as you don’t raise your expectations to an unrealistic level, and that is what Pakistani fans do.

For example, Norwich City is one of the most passionately supported clubs in the UK. Their fans know that they will never win the Premier League but that has not deterred them from supporting the club.

They do not have realistic aspirations and do not demand the removal of managers and players if they do not finish in the top 4 in the Premier League. Instead, they find joy in achievements that are at their level, such as surviving relegation or getting promoted, getting wins against the big 6 etc.

The problem with Pakistani fans is that they demand achievements and the type of success that is not within our capacity. That capacity cannot be created because other teams are not going to sit idle waiting for us to catch up.

International cricket has moved ahead of Pakistan. A lot of it has to do with external factors as well such as economic health, reputation of the country, standard of living, security etc. etc., but they go beyond the scope of the cricket forum.

We cannot catch up now and we do not have any divine right to catch up either. We are a now a small cricket nation that is just about hovering above minnow level, and thus we should expect similar level of results as well and learn to find joy in small achievements.

For example, Pakistani fans should be happy if they are ranked 5th or 6th and can beat a top side at home. That would be a great achievement for a weak cricket nation.

But if they keep making castles in the air and keep playing fantasy cricket in their heads to envision a day where they will become an elite side with elite cricketers, then they are only setting themselves up for disappointment.

You can support and celebrate mediocrity. There is nothing wrong with that. Sports fans do it all over the world.

Unfortunately, Pakistani fans are unwilling to accept the status of Pakistan cricket and they keep looking for coping mechanisms. The gap between fan expectations and the actual capability and capacity of Pakistan cricket is enormous.

That is why our fans are the most deluded in the world. However, we should not be deluded. We should simply accept our standing in the game and be happy.
 
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My target is not Imran Khan and his revamped structure; my target is our delusional fan base.

Instead of having lofty, unrealistic expectations and expecting PCB to reach their level, they need to lower their expectations to reach PCB’s level.

A rooster will never fly like a falcon, but it can take pride in what it is.

That is what our fans need to do. Make peace with the standing of Pakistan cricket. Great expectations bring great disappointment.

Our fans will hype up average cricketers, run their mouths against far, far more talented and skilled sides, and then these average cricketers get exposed and they are surprised.

As a coping mechanism, they open firing on anyone in the firing line.

For the past 10 years it was Misbah, in the future it will be Mohammad Wasim, 20 years later it will be someone else.

People say I am critical of Pakistani players and Wasim Khan and Imran Khan etc., but my real target is always the delusional fanbase.

Someone has to step up to keep balance and keep expectations in check. I have taken up this role for years and hope to continue, but you know it as well as I do where the level of delusion will reach if there is no one to keep check on it.
 
Its nothing to do with Imran yes as a politician is asked he would always say he will sort it out but in reality every day hos got more important thing to do than worry about some sport.
 
Pakistani fans have to lower their expectations. The real problem in Pakistan cricket is not the board, the coaches and the players. The real problem is fan expectations.

Pakistan has no divine right to be an elite cricket nation. No team does, but some teams reach that level while others don’t. Just like some players become legends while others don’t. It is just how life works.

Millions of fans across the globe in multiple sports support teams that are weak. They don’t moan about how weak they are because they are not delusional. They have simply made peace with their standing and their status and they find joy in it.

Support weak teams is also a pleasurable experience as long as you don’t raise your expectations to an unrealistic level, and that is what Pakistani fans do.

For example, Norwich City is one of the most passionately supported clubs in the UK. Their fans know that they will never win the Premier League but that has not deterred them from supporting the club.

They do not have realistic aspirations and do not demand the removal of managers and players if they do not finish in the top 4 in the Premier League. Instead, they find joy in achievements that are at their level, such as surviving relegation or getting promoted, getting wins against the big 6 etc.

The problem with Pakistani fans is that they demand achievements and the type of success that is not within our capacity. That capacity cannot be created because other teams are not going to sit idle waiting for us to catch up.

International cricket has moved ahead of Pakistan. A lot of it has to do with external factors as well such as economic health, reputation of the country, standard of living, security etc. etc., but they go beyond the scope of the cricket forum.

We cannot catch up now and we do not have any divine right to catch up either. We are a now a small cricket nation that is just about hovering above minnow level, and thus we should expect similar level of results as well and learn to find joy in small achievements.

For example, Pakistani fans should be happy if they are ranked 5th or 6th and can beat a top side at home. That would be a great achievement for a weak cricket nation.

But if they keep making castles in the air and keep playing fantasy cricket in their heads to envision a day where they will become an elite side with elite cricketers, then they are only setting themselves up for disappointment.

You can support and celebrate mediocrity. There is nothing wrong with that. Sports fans do it all over the world.

Unfortunately, Pakistani fans are unwilling to accept the status of Pakistan cricket and they keep looking for coping mechanisms. The gap between fan expectations and the actual capability and capacity of Pakistan cricket is enormous.

That is why our fans are the most deluded in the world. However, we should not be deluded. We should simply accept our standing in the game and be happy.

I see. So why dont you lead the way but 'lowering your expectations' and simply accept that whatever the management are doing in the name of improvement is most likely the right thing? Lowering of expectations means we should simply trust whats going on, accept what we are fed and look forward to what we might see in the future. Can you demonstrate this lowering of expectations for us instead of consistently looking for maybe 1-2-3-4.....1 million reasons to whinge about?

Why dont you read the match prediction threads before such a series. Quite a few of us already had low expectations. We predicted a 2-0 whitewash, we made peace with it. Not sure what else you want these fans to do now? Ive been here for long enough to tell you, I dont think there is as much delusion as you and others are making out to be. Plenty of realism and plenty of practical people who want to make things right speak with the correct attitude. A lot of these people, unlike you dont run away from their problems in life by simply accepting something that hurts them to become a permanent source of pain. Real people who are successful in their modes of life who will look to think for solutions rather than consistently denying that there cannot be a solution.

We know we suck, we know our weaknesses. We know our shortcomings. Im sure Wasim Khan does also.So did the people before him. What else would you like everyone to do?
 
Fair enough.

Even despite the trolling & racism by few sick people here, I am really feeling sorry for PAK cricket today

- NZ was one place where we used to believe that at least there PAK can win on the others’ day as well.
Well Pakistan never faced this strong a Kiwi side in the past except maybe in the 1978-79 series.
 
Well Pakistan never faced this strong a Kiwi side in the past except maybe in the 1978-79 series.

Wrong - NZ between 1999 to 2005 was damn, damn good as well. Sometimes in 2003, Shoaib blew Kiwis for 100 or so for PAK to chase 280+ on day four after conceding 170+ 1st innings lead. Couple of years back Sami on debut took a 5 for and won a Test in one spell.... Not only this Kiwi side, in 2014 they drew 1-1 in UAE and then won 2-1 there in 2018 .... it’s not only that Kiwis are very good now, reality is PAK is rubbish.
 
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