Why has Sufiyan Muqeem been dropped from both white-ball teams?

[Aqib_mustafa]

I mean seriously i only can cry on this injustice where talent like sufiyan keep getting dropped and parchi like noseem shah babar are selected in t20 team then we wonder why pakistan is not winning when you going to make selection blunder then there will be no shock pakistan is loosing they deserve this when they are doing injustice like this.

 

[mominsaigol]

I mean seriously i only can cry on this injustice where talent like sufiyan keep getting dropped and parchi like noseem shah babar are selected in t20 team then we wonder why pakistan is not winning when you going to make selection blunder then there will be no shock pakistan is loosing they deserve this when they are doing injustice like this.

Pcb doing pcb things.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

Pcb doing pcb things.

Bro this guy would have been in playing 11 for australia or england teams here he is being ignored no wonder pakistan is loosing

 

[Devadwal]

Because his Asia cup performance was bad.

And wannabe said he is better than Abrar which is not the case.

 

[mominsaigol]

Bro this guy would have been in playing 11 for australia or england teams here he is being ignored no wonder pakistan is loosing

The whole system is a joke.

Pakistan was at its best in 2016-2017. I believe my brother @Major pointed this out as well. At that time I disagreed with him, but over time ive matured as well.

A) Many of their upcoming talents were playing County cricket and the demand for Test was at all time high thanks to Misbah turning UAE into an unbeatable fortress.

The upcoming talent were all proper batsmen. Even failures like Ahmed Shehzad look world class in comparison to the rubbish that is Abdullah, Shan etc etc.

Lots of players that were up and coming were proper batters.

B) PSL use to be played in UAE. UAE pitches are tough. I remember when QG chased 200+ vs LQ. Back then it was a legendary chase compared to now where psl pitches in Pakistan are a joke.

The likes of babar, Azhar Ali, Fakhar Zaman, Sarfaraz, Hafeez and many others went into CT straight from PSL.

Yes 2017 was lucky to an extent, but the team of 2017 would mollywop our current team 9 ways till Sunday.

The likes of haris sohail, Babar(prime era), Azhar Ali, Fakhar Zaman(Prime) etc etc were all proper batters who had garnered lots and lots of experience from UAE pitches in general.

C) Lastly the selections were made mostly on merit, At the very least pcb didnt listen to social media wannabees. For example everyone including myself demanded Copper connely and Mitchell Owens to be kicked out fo aus for failing.

Today they kicked India to the curb. CA isnt stupid enough to listen to normal social media noobs.

Now adays FC cricket is dead, PSL is a joke, and I'm convinced PCB is making their selection decisons from twitter.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Because his Asia cup performance was bad.

And wannabe said he is better than Abrar which is not the case.

Modern day T20 team is disintegrating. Miraculously Salman Ali Agha has escaped from all this despite monumentally mediocre outing in Asia cup.

7 innings 72 runs 12.00 average 80.89 strike rate

 

[tiger_khan]

I mean seriously i only can cry on this injustice where talent like sufiyan keep getting dropped and parchi like noseem shah babar are selected in t20 team then we wonder why pakistan is not winning when you going to make selection blunder then there will be no shock pakistan is loosing they deserve this when they are doing injustice like this.

I don't know who Noseem Shah Babar is but Muqeem had plenty of opportunities during the Asia Cup and the series preceding it. Must utilize the opportunities. IF he couldn't get wickets in the Middle East, he still has a lot to learn


Same thing with Hassan Nawaz. he also did not utilize the opportunities against the Associate teams.

These are all talented players and we all want them to play. But it has to be said, the missed few vey good opportunities.

Pakistani cricket is less of a sports more of a polity. When you get chances, utilize them or someone will replace you unfairly.

 

[Devadwal]

Modern day T20 team is disintegrating. Miraculously Salman Ali Agha has escaped from all this despite monumentally mediocre outing in Asia cup.

7 innings 72 runs 12.00 average 80.89 strike rate

Yes Agha selection as T20 captain made mockery of team selection. He didn't deserve a Place in any international team .

 

[mominsaigol]

Because his Asia cup performance was bad.

And wannabe said he is better than Abrar which is not the case.

With all due respect you don't know much or anything about cricket in general.

You argued with me for an entire year claiming that Rizzu is > Agha only to make a comment about Agha being better which I pinged you on and you never answered.

Then in asia cup you did a spin a roonie even though our og convo was about odi lol.

Idkw I live in your head rent free, even though I am not trying to.

Abrar is not better then sufiyan, that wouldn't even be the case if Hell was to freeze 3x in a row. Abrar slow pace will lead to sixes by Cameron Green left and right.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes Agha selection as T20 captain made mockery of team selection. He didn't deserve a Place in any international team .

Yes a mockery, which is why you ran away until the final over the final, so much so that the entire thread was laughing at you.

I had to pat you on the back and comfort you that you'll win . Major made a mockery out of you .

Not to mention that 2025 job nonsense vs England. I think that was a next level lie.

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

I don't know who Noseem Shah Babar is but Muqeem had plenty of opportunities during the Asia Cup and the series preceding it. Must utilize the opportunities. IF he couldn't get wickets in the Middle East, he still has a lot to learn


Same thing with Hassan Nawaz. he also did not utilize the opportunities against the Associate teams.

These are all talented players and we all want them to play. But it has to be said, the missed few vey good opportunities.

Pakistani cricket is less of a sports more of a polity. When you get chances, utilize them or someone will replace you unfairly.i was obviously talking about parchi like babar azam and naseem shah on what performance

I was obviously talking about babar azam and naseem shah on what basis they have been selected in both white ball teams and sufiyan despite performing getting dropped.

 

[tiger_khan]

I was obviously talking about babar azam and naseem shah on what basis they have been selected in both white ball teams and sufiyan despite performing getting dropped.

Sorry, I misinterpreted

I thought Noseem Shah Babar is a new player

Apologies

 

[Devadwal]

With all due respect you don't know much or anything about cricket in general.

You argued with me for an entire year claiming that Rizzu is > Agha only to make a comment about Agha being better which I pinged you on and you never answered.

Then in asia cup you did a spin a roonie even though our og convo was about odi lol.

Idkw I live in your head rent free, even though I am not trying to.

Abrar is not better then sufiyan, that wouldn't even be the case if Hell was to freeze 3x in a row. Abrar slow pace will lead to sixes by Cameron Green left and right.

Rizwan is way better than Agha in ll formats. What has Agha done so far ? Nothing

 

[Devadwal]

Yes a mockery, which is why you ran away until the final over the final, so much so that the entire thread was laughing at you.

I had to pat you on the back and comfort you that you'll win . Major made a mockery out of you .

Not to mention that 2025 job nonsense vs England. I think that was a next level lie.

WE smashed your tullebaaz team 3-0 . Tin Sunday lagatar humiliated kiya hai .

 

[Hyder]

If u select agha as captain you cant really argue further.

Shaheen was best t20 captain and we rewarded him odi captaincy. I dont think he has patience for odis atm.

Agha is a good test player and we made him t20 captain

As always we mix up the formats and end up getting nothing

 

[Cricket Warrior]

This thread is about Sufyan Muqeem so better stay on topic

 

[sweep_shot]

Sufiyan should be a regular in T20 team. Not sure why he has been dropped. His T20 stats are very good.

 

[ads101]

The whole system is a joke.

Pakistan was at its best in 2016-2017. I believe my brother @Major pointed this out as well. At that time I disagreed with him, but over time ive matured as well.

A) Many of their upcoming talents were playing County cricket and the demand for Test was at all time high thanks to Misbah turning UAE into an unbeatable fortress.

The upcoming talent were all proper batsmen. Even failures like Ahmed Shehzad look world class in comparison to the rubbish that is Abdullah, Shan etc etc.

Lots of players that were up and coming were proper batters.

B) PSL use to be played in UAE. UAE pitches are tough. I remember when QG chased 200+ vs LQ. Back then it was a legendary chase compared to now where psl pitches in Pakistan are a joke.

The likes of babar, Azhar Ali, Fakhar Zaman, Sarfaraz, Hafeez and many others went into CT straight from PSL.

Yes 2017 was lucky to an extent, but the team of 2017 would mollywop our current team 9 ways till Sunday.

The likes of haris sohail, Babar(prime era), Azhar Ali, Fakhar Zaman(Prime) etc etc were all proper batters who had garnered lots and lots of experience from UAE pitches in general.

C) Lastly the selections were made mostly on merit, At the very least pcb didnt listen to social media wannabees. For example everyone including myself demanded Copper connely and Mitchell Owens to be kicked out fo aus for failing.

Today they kicked India to the curb. CA isnt stupid enough to listen to normal social media noobs.

Now adays FC cricket is dead, PSL is a joke, and I'm convinced PCB is making their selection decisons from twitter.

We had a lot of talent at the time 2017-18. It was probably the first time I felt like that for a long time since Pakistan stopped playing games at home. I was excited for the future.

You had Shaheen, imam, Shadab, Imad Wasim, Hasan Ali all emerging around that time. Guys coming back in Haris and Amir. Even junaid wasn’t bad. Umar akmal was still young enough to turn it around. Then you also had guys like Hafeez who was becoming more consistent as a batsman and Sarfraz who was doing really well. And of course fakhar. These were not just talents they were guys who instantly took to international cricket. And Babar too doing well. Maybe you could even add Sami Aslam in there who did well on test debut. Maybe there’s some others I missed out.

It’s sad because pretty much all those players got worse since 2017/18. Or didn’t improve and stagnated. Not sure I can even think of a single guy who improved. Even guys like Shaheen, fakhar, Babar their best form came early in their career.

It’s why I don’t really rate Mickey. Maybe I’m overly harsh on him. The ct 2017 win at the start was great. But beyond that all I saw was talented players get worse, not improve and get unfit. Not saying the other coaches after were great. But that ct 2017 win should have been the springboard for better things.

Situation is different now. So hard to find talent or players that can do anything in internationals. And the same crop since 2017 are still dominating in domestic even if they’re not delivering to their potential in internationals. Shadab is evidence of that, guys regressed so much and still dominating PSL for fun. It’s irritating.

That’s why I say our main problem is how we develop our talent. Even when we had talent we wasted it back then in 2017/18. Fitness, strength training, fielding and of course not fixing should be prioritised. Otherwise we’ll continue to see talented cricketers go to waste.

 

[G0rmintAunty]

It’s why I don’t really rate Mickey. Maybe I’m overly harsh on him. The ct 2017 win at the start was great. But beyond that all I saw was talented players get worse, not improve and get unfit. Not saying the other coaches after were great. But that ct 2017 win should have been the springboard for better things.

Why blame Mickey? A coach at international level can only do so much. If the players don't care about bettering themselves then no coach in the world can do anything. The template of every player is the same, give their all at the start to make a name for themselves, once they get into the team have made it, they just regress from there because they know they will be back due to their old performances once another player does badly (which he will cuz he foows the same template) and the musical chair will continue ad nauseum.

 

[ads101]

Why blame Mickey? A coach at international level can only do so much. If the players don't care about bettering themselves then no coach in the world can do anything. The template of every player is the same, give their all at the start to make a name for themselves, once they get into the team have made it, they just regress from there because they know they will be back due to their old performances once another player does badly (which he will cuz he foows the same template) and the musical chair will continue ad nauseum.

I don’t blame him entirely. But the job of a coach is to build and develop players as well and inset the right tactics. Players didn’t develop, got unfit under his watch. He was given more time than anyone else. I don’t really attribute the performances of guys coming in new to the team due to a coach. That happens before they have time to work with a coach. If we don’t attribute some blame to the coach, then not sure what the point of him. Results after that ct 2017 win were not good under Mickey. And he had a lot more to work with compared to latter years.

There is a difference between the new crop and then. These guys didn’t just have one good performance or two at the start. They made a name for themselves and cemented their spot. A lot of the new guys aren’t cementing their spot and either don’t perform early or drop off so quick that they’re out of the team in a few months. Most of the players we are trying out these days it’s not the case that they are cementing their spots and becoming lazy. They just have literally not figured out a way to consistently perform yet.

 

[JibranAnsari]

When your t20 captain is the one who can't even make it the weakest international t20 in the world, you should stop talking about merit.

Last 11 t20is, salman has an average of 12.8 and sr of 88, 6 fours and 4 sixes.

Everything in the country is being run like pakistan government, incompetency/ illegitimacy are the qualifications needed.

 

[BouncerGuy]

When your t20 captain is the one who can't even make it the weakest international t20 in the world, you should stop talking about merit.

Last 11 t20is, salman has an average of 12.8 and sr of 88, 6 fours and 4 sixes.

Everything in the country is being run like pakistan government, incompetency/ illegitimacy are the qualifications needed.

Agreed... If salman can be t20 captain, then anything can happen... Sufiyan was sidelined to make way for Shadab who just completed his rehabilitation... I think So

 

[JibranAnsari]

Agreed... If salman can be t20 captain, then anything can happen... Sufiyan was sidelined to make way for Shadab who just completed his rehabilitation... I think So

Yes, he needs to get a good run. Shadab is living of his reputation from 5 years ago. Mohammad nawaz is their new go to guy now probably because he is 30 plus now.