Why hasn't Pakistan taken in any Syrian refugees and should it?

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan is one of the largest Muslim countries in the world and always takes an interest in the affairs of other parts of the Muslim world, Pakistan was also until last year home to the largest refugee population in the world but why hasn't Pakistan stepped up and welcomed Syrian and Iraqi refugees but at the same time many Pakistanis aren't happy with anti-refugee policies in Europe and America or any other western country. I think Pakistan should take in Syrian refugees, after screening them of course, and helping them settle there. I think it'd hypocritical and selfish of Pakistan not do so, they'd also contribute to the cultural tapestry of Pakistan. If Pakistanis can criticize Trump for proposing a ban on refugees and praise Trudeau for opening doors to them in Canada, why can't Pakistanis accept them?

By taking in Syrian refugees, Pakistan would also dispel the notion that the only reason Pakistan had to take Afghans in was cause we supposedly "wrecked" their country, this would reinforce Pakistan as a hospitable country. What do you guys think?

 

[Pakistanian]

With Pakistan's landmass, I think we could take in as many or even twice as many refugees as Lebanon.

 

[JaDed]

Jordan seems to be the most nicest Arab countries of all,they take refugees without creating so much fuss whether Palestine or Syria.

 

[MSaad1237]

Pakistan already hosts over 5 million refugees from Afghanistan (another million or 2 unregistered), we can't take anymore ty..

 

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan already hosts over 5 million refugees from Afghanistan (another million or 2 unregistered), we can't take anymore ty..

Yes, they can. It's not like Pakistan has some welfare system, the refugees will hustle on their own.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Pakistan has already been home to many, many refugees. Around 7 million Afghan refugees. Hosting this many refugees from Afghanistan has led the already struggling Pakistan economy to crumble and on top of that, caused a lot of security problems for Pakistan. Much to Pakistan's dismay, the Afghan govt. or the refugees have not been grateful either, so Pakistan does not really have a great relationship with refugees and neither can they be blamed for not taking in Syrians or be called cold hearted given their previous attempts to house refugees.

Another important factor in this is the geographical location of Syria. Pakistan is at least 1785 miles away from Syria by land and 3156 Nautical miles by sea. It is virtually impossible for Syrian refugees to migrate to Pakistan by road. Both scenarios in a refugee situation are impossible considering the fact that life boats can't hold that much fuel or food. Nor can the refugees carry enough ration to travel for 50 days on foot.

However, even if they were able to magically transmit themselves to Pakistan I doubt they would because Refugees always try to choose a land which will give them opportunity to earn and in turn survive, Pakistan is a poor country and the labor is already very cheap with staggering unemployment numbers, so that adds another negative for the refugees not to choose Pakistan.

 

[msb314]

Thanks but no thanks!

We are already overpopulated and have enough problems to deal with...

 

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan has already been home to many, many refugees. Around 7 million Afghan refugees. Hosting this many refugees from Afghanistan has led the already struggling Pakistan economy to crumble and on top of that, caused a lot of security problems for Pakistan. Much to Pakistan's dismay, the Afghan govt. or the refugees have not been grateful either, so Pakistan does not really have a great relationship with refugees and neither can they be blamed for not taking in Syrians or be called cold hearted given their previous attempts to house refugees.

Another important factor in this is the geographical location of Syria. Pakistan is at least 1785 miles away from Syria by land and 3156 Nautical miles by sea. It is virtually impossible for Syrian refugees to migrate to Pakistan by road. Both scenarios in a refugee situation are impossible considering the fact that life boats can't hold that much fuel or food. Nor can the refugees carry enough ration to travel for 50 days on foot.

However, even if they were able to magically transmit themselves to Pakistan I doubt they would because Refugees always try to choose a land which will give them opportunity to earn and in turn survive, Pakistan is a poor country and the labor is already very cheap with staggering unemployment numbers, so that adds another negative for the refugees not to choose Pakistan.

Transporting them isn't an issue, the only barrier is the government of Pakistan allowing them to settle. Adding a couple hundred thousand refugees isn't going to destroy the "economy", labor can always be found in a developing country with construction going on constantly. Also many of refugees are educated people, Pakistan has a shortage of educated people and they could fill in the job market. It's like how America and Canada despite having big populations and that too of educated people, bring in people with skillsets that are in shortage. I see that as a positive, and then there's the long term investment. This would be a great cultural exchange between Pakistan and Syria, we get to show our way of life and also get to see their way of life. That would enrich a young country like Pakistan and add to it's melting pot.

 

[Thivagar]

Maybe because they don't want to go to Pakistan ? Think about it, why would they cross all they way through Iraq, Afghanistan just to seek refugee in Pakistan ? Those that can migrate through air plane will fly to a much more developed country in Europe or North America.

 

[Pakistanian]

Thanks but no thanks!

We are already overpopulated and have enough problems to deal with...

200,000 to 1 million isn't even a 1% increase in the population. Besides, the Afghan refugee population is dwindling, and unlike Afghanistan, Syria isn't anti-Pakistan and it also has a much larger educated population and a relatively more open minded culture. They'd be an asset, not a liability.

 

[Pakistanian]

Maybe because they don't want to go to Pakistan ? Think about it, why would they cross all they way through Iraq, Afghanistan just to seek refugee in Pakistan ? Those that can migrate through air plane will fly to a much more developed country in Europe or North America.

I know of Arabs who told me that they're surprised Muslim countries like Pakistan don't take in refugees, while the refugees risk their lives to move to non Muslim countries. It's not that they don't want to move, it's that it's convienient and more beneficial for them if they move to the west. A lot of refugees travel by boat and ship, many have made their way to Australia which is even further away than Pakistan and the refugees get detained on a little island, many of them have also settled in Indonesia. So you're incorrect about the difficulty of travelling to Pakistan. People have been travelling on ships, to and from Pakistan to the Gulf states for many decades, people have traveled as Egypt from Pakistan via the red sea. There's already a small Somali community in Pakistan, there's no reason Syrians can't make and if the government helps out, it'd make things much easier.

 

[Pakistanian]

Also if traveling to Pakistan was difficult for mideasterners, then so many of them wouldn't have traveled to Pakistan and Afghanistan to fight in wars

 

[MenInG]

No one wants to come to Pakistan! Refugees want to go to a place to start their lives

 

[ExpressPacer]

Transporting them isn't an issue, the only barrier is the government of Pakistan allowing them to settle. Adding a couple hundred thousand refugees isn't going to destroy the "economy", labor can always be found in a developing country with construction going on constantly. Also many of refugees are educated people, Pakistan has a shortage of educated people and they could fill in the job market. It's like how America and Canada despite having big populations and that too of educated people, bring in people with skillsets that are in shortage. I see that as a positive, and then there's the long term investment. This would be a great cultural exchange between Pakistan and Syria, we get to show our way of life and also get to see their way of life. That would enrich a young country like Pakistan and add to it's melting pot.

Just like the great cultural exchange Pakistan and Afghanistan have despite hosting 7 million of its refugees..

Anyway, I'm not against them coming to Pakistan. I'm just stating that they themselves choose not to. They prefer going to Europe despite European countries being non-muslim. I presume its got to do with the first world nature.

 

[Pakistanian]

No one wants to come to Pakistan! Refugees want to go to a place to start their lives

That is incorrect. First of all, Afghan, Rohingya and Somali refugees have already gone to Pakistan! Refugees want to escape to war, and Pakistan is relatively safer for them. That's it. You'd seek shelter for the first place you get offered. Refugees have even gone to Iraq which itself is under civil war and Isis occupation, that shows what they prioritize.

Even Bosnian refugees went to Pakistan in the 90s, despite Pakistan being very poor and unstable. They may not have been happy but were glad to escape the war.

 

[Pakistanian]

Just like the great cultural exchange Pakistan and Afghanistan have despite hosting 7 million of its refugees..

Anyway, I'm not against them coming to Pakistan. I'm just stating that they themselves choose not to. They prefer going to Europe despite European countries being non-muslim. I presume its got to do with the first world nature.

You can't compare Syria to Afghanistan, look at Syrian contributions in history and other facets. Look at their diaspora in America and other countries. They're different from Afghans, I don't mean to disparage Afghans but you can't compare the two populations. Also it's not that they don't choose, if they were given the choice, a sizable minority would certainly choose given how desperate their situation is. If many them chose war-torn Iraq and if millions of Afghans who don't like Pakistan, still moved to Pakistan, that shows that your choice doesn't matter in desperate times.

 

[ExpressPacer]

You can't compare Syria to Afghanistan, look at Syrian contributions in history and other facets. Look at their diaspora in America and other countries. They're different from Afghans, I don't mean to disparage Afghans but you can't compare the two populations. Also it's not that they don't choose, if they were given the choice, a sizable minority would certainly choose given how desperate their situation is. If many them chose war-torn Iraq and if millions of Afghans who don't like Pakistan, still moved to Pakistan, that shows that your choice doesn't matter in desperate times.

Yeah, maybe if the Pakistani govt. facilitates them by flying them over to Pakistan then they wouldn't be as naive as Afghans. And as much you and I would want this to happen, its simply not possible. The current PMLN govt is heavily influenced by Arabs, Saudi Arabia in particular and our leaders almost worship the Saudi Kings and Ameers. So, because of the anti-Shia sentiments of Arabs, I don't see this happening. Especially because even rich Arab countries are unwilling to host Syrians.

 

[Pakistanian]

Yeah, maybe if the Pakistani govt. facilitates them by flying them over to Pakistan then they wouldn't be as naive as Afghans. And as much you and I would want this to happen, its simply not possible. The current PMLN govt is heavily influenced by Arabs, Saudi Arabia in particular and our leaders almost worship the Saudi Kings and Ameers. So, because of the anti-Shia sentiments of Arabs, I don't see this happening. Especially because even rich Arab countries are unwilling to host Syrians.

There are things called ships and boats, the same means they used to travel all the way to Indonesia and Australia, only to be locked up in detention centers. The same boats were used to bring Rohingyas from Burma to Pakistan. Also it ain't about being naive, Syrian refugees have even escaped to war-torn Iraq which is among the most dangerous countries in the world, much worse than the situation in Pakistan. Refugees just want to escape war and that's it. I don't know why y'all rant against Trump but make up a million excuses to take in a few Syrian refugees who won't even change more than a fraction of the population. Hypocrites.

 

[ExpressPacer]

There are things called ships and boats, the same means they used to travel all the way to Indonesia and Australia, only to be locked up in detention centers. The same boats were used to bring Rohingyas from Burma to Pakistan. Also it ain't about being naive, Syrian refugees have even escaped to war-torn Iraq which is among the most dangerous countries in the world, much worse than the situation in Pakistan. Refugees just want to escape war and that's it. I don't know why y'all rant against Trump but make up a million excuses to take in a few Syrian refugees who won't even change more than a fraction of the population. Hypocrites.

Like I said earlier, I'm not against them coming into Pakistan. I couldn't care less. What I am saying is the pro-Saudi Govt. wont let it happen no matter how much you and I want it to happen.

 

[Mamoon]

No thank you, and I personally don't rant against any country that doesn't take in refugees. Simply put, you have to cater to your people first. If you feel that taking in refugees from other countries will be counterproductive, there is no reason for you to act as a deontologist.

 

[Pakistanian]

No thank you, and I personally don't rant against any country that doesn't take in refugees. Simply put, you have to cater to your people first. If you feel that taking in refugees from other countries will be counterproductive, there is no reason for you to act as a deontologist.

Fair enough, but I don't exactly see how a couple hundred thousand or a million would have a bad impact on Pakistan.

 

[hussain123]

It would be great if pakistan takes few lakh syrian refugees,would make pakistan more cosmopolitan.but i am pretty sceptic about it.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Please no God No !!

Just leave us alone man

 

[Varun]

I know of Arabs who told me that they're surprised Muslim countries like Pakistan don't take in refugees, while the refugees risk their lives to move to non Muslim countries.

Which Arabs are these? Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE and Oman have taken in a grand total of zero refugees in spite of being flush with prosperity and sharing a common culture and ethnicity. Zero.

No sir, that burden has been left to France and Germany, among others. And they are paying a costly price for it, having trucks drive through crowds and whatnot.

The fewer the merrier in this game.

 

[enkidu_]

Which Arabs are these? Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE and Oman have taken in a grand total of zero refugees in spite of being flush with prosperity and sharing a common culture and ethnicity. Zero.

No sir, that burden has been left to France and Germany, among others. And they are paying a costly price for it, having trucks drive through crowds and whatnot.

The fewer the merrier in this game.

Arabs are found outside the Gulf too, for instance in Lebanon nearly a third of its population is now made up of Syrians, and you have to keep in mind that many Lebanese have an anti Syrian feeling because of Syria's perennial desire to absorb a country it considers its own, and which has unleashed violence in the past.

Jordan too has many Syrian, as well as Iraqi, refugees.

Also, what "burden" for France ? It nurtured wars in Syria (and Libya), and for all they won by selling weapons the few 1000s of "Syrian refugees" (they're generally economic migrants from Sub Saharan Africa) is tangential (also their bombs are as lethal as trucks).

Germany on the other hand has been generous.

As for the Gulf countries themselves, here an interesting data for Saudi Arabia :

Qattan also revealed that the Kingdom received nearly 2.5 million Syrian citizens, who were allowed freedom of movement and provided free access to education and healthcare.

Saudi Arabia does not consider Syrians as refugees and they were free to take up jobs in the Kingdom. market. He added that More than 141,000 Syrian students are currently enrolled at Saudi schools and universities, he said.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...-globally-in-humanitarian-aid-says-envoy.html

 

[Pakpak]

OP, we are not a welfare state. We're poor as they come, we can hardly take care of our country let alone new refugees who have nothing in common with us except our religion.

 

[TSA321]

I doubt they'd want to go there in the first place.

 

[Yossarian]

With Pakistan's landmass, I think we could take in as many or even twice as many refugees as Lebanon.

Ever considered that they may not wish to go to Pakistan?

Furthermore, regarding many ignorant comments on here as to why the Gulf countries aren't taking in more Syrian refugee's, ever considered the fact that the Gulf countries to a large extent are a major cause of the refugee crisis in the first place?

The Gulf countries (some on behalf of the USA, France, the UK, Russia etc, whilst others due to their own interests) are supporting, financing and supplying arms to the multitude of factions fighting each other in Syria. You think the Syrian refugee's would wish to go there?

It would be like trying to escape from a bunch of marauding lions by taking refuge in the lions den containing the whole of their pride of lions and lionesses.

Too many armchair posters on here giving their 2 cents worth without having a clue as to the causes of the refugee crisis in the first place.

 

[Black Zero]

Worst case scenario is that they live in refugee camps in Turkey/Jordan.
Best case #1 is that they become german citizen (in this case, they would have to risk their lives, while crossing sea)

Best case #2 sponsored immigrant to Canada.
I am very inclined to sponsor one Yezdi family.

 

[PakLFC]

We don't have the finances to take in anymore refugee's. When we are trying to get rid of the Afghani refugee's it would make no sense replacing them with Syrians. Another factor would be the linguistic and cultural gap where they'd be more comfortable with their Arab brethren. Why Pakistan? Why don't the likes of Indonesia and Malaysia take more in if they have done so any at all?

 

[Black Zero]

We don't have the finances to take in anymore refugee's. When we are trying to get rid of the Afghani refugee's it would make no sense replacing them with Syrians. Another factor would be the linguistic and cultural gap where they'd be more comfortable with their Arab brethren. Why Pakistan? Why don't the likes of Indonesia and Malaysia take more in if they have done so any at all?

First, Syrian refugees are not interested in coming to Pakistan.
Second lebanon is not a country with resources, but hosting 1.5 million syrian refugees (lebanon current population is less than 5 millions and they are also hosting refugees from other countries) which is 30% of their population.

However world is getting smaller for refugees.

 

[PakLFC]

First, Syrian refugees are not interested in coming to Pakistan.
Second lebanon is not a country with resources, but hosting 1.5 million syrian refugees (lebanon current population is less than 5 millions and they are also hosting refugees from other countries) which is 30% of their population.

However world is getting smaller for refugees.

Have you spoken to them that you know they are not interested in coming to Pakistan? They would go anywhere to escape the warzone that is Syria. Lebanon or anyone else has not taken in 5 million refugee's over the past 40 years or something like Pakistan has, have they?

 

[PakLFC]

If they don't want to come then let me tell you that we're not opening our arms to them either. After all the violence the Afghani refugee's have bought us we don't need anymore of them from anywhere. Having escaped great violence most of them are ticking time bombs who need psychological help. We don't want anymore nutcases or angry ones set free in Pakistan.

 

[Syed1]

We are barely able to feed, educate and clothe our own population plus the refugees we already have who refuse to go back and now you want some more refugees to be brought in?

Besides Syrian refugees are generally those that speak Arabic, French (since it was a French colony) and a little bit of English. (I know this because I have lived and worked alongside Syrians/Lebanese). How will they gel in a country whose language they don't speak?

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Pakistan has already been home to many, many refugees. Around 7 million Afghan refugees. Hosting this many refugees from Afghanistan has led the already struggling Pakistan economy to crumble and on top of that, caused a lot of security problems for Pakistan. Much to Pakistan's dismay, the Afghan govt. or the refugees have not been grateful either, so Pakistan does not really have a great relationship with refugees and neither can they be blamed for not taking in Syrians or be called cold hearted given their previous attempts to house refugees.

Another important factor in this is the geographical location of Syria. Pakistan is at least 1785 miles away from Syria by land and 3156 Nautical miles by sea. It is virtually impossible for Syrian refugees to migrate to Pakistan by road. Both scenarios in a refugee situation are impossible considering the fact that life boats can't hold that much fuel or food. Nor can the refugees carry enough ration to travel for 50 days on foot.

However, even if they were able to magically transmit themselves to Pakistan I doubt they would because Refugees always try to choose a land which will give them opportunity to earn and in turn survive, Pakistan is a poor country and the labor is already very cheap with staggering unemployment numbers, so that adds another negative for the refugees not to choose Pakistan.

Pakistan had 7 million Afghan refugees at it's peak. I think the number is around 2 million now and decreasing.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Not against taking refugees from any country,but the problem is Pakistan cannot even cater for the majority of it's citizens.How can it take in a large amount of people?That would cause more issues.

 

[ExpressPacer]

Pakistan had 7 million Afghan refugees at it's peak. I think the number is around 2 million now and decreasing.

Yes bro, isn't that what I said?

And yeah, they are being forced to leave. I don't know if that's ethically correct or not but Afghanistan is able enough to hold its people so I guess its the right decision.

 

[The_KING]

No thank you. We already have a lot of problems. We don't need more. There is already so much population in Pakistan because Pakistani don't know what contraception is... We don't need more people. We already have more than enough.

 

[Cosmic]

Very Funny, ? why would Syrian would like to come pakistan ? I gess Pakistan are more then welcome to come over in Pakistan? Language barriers, Cultural barriers, Arab has an ego Problem...

They will like to go to Arab, Europe, North America and then least India Bangladesh or Pakistan ? And it's not even logical..

What work they will do ? their schools ? Can Pakistan give them jobs ? Security ? Our Political System, people would accept them ?

why aren't Pakistani stranded in Bangladesh; still did not get place in karachi.. ?

Sorry No Offence OP but that' not an good idea ?

 

[Cosmic]

No thank you. We already have a lot of problems. We don't need more. There is already so much population in Pakistan because Pakistani don't know what contraception is... We don't need more people. We already have more than enough.

Well why are you getting personal with people lives ? why wouldn't the people don't know contraception.. they want more, They love so much ?.. .to be honest this personal problem..

 

[sjahmed23]

I think Syrian refugees would be very productive members of society as they are well educated. However, I don't think many Syrians would consider Pakistan when they can enjoy the comforts the western nations likes Germany and France offer plus, neither Pakistani government would make extra efforts to facilitate the refugees nor would the refugees risk their lives and travel all the way to Pakistan.

 

[The_KING]

Well why are you getting personal with people lives ? why wouldn't the people don't know contraception.. they want more, They love so much ?.. .to be honest this personal problem..

I was just saying that there is already a lot of population in Pakistan due to people having many kids. We don't need more refugees coming in and increasing the population that's already more than enough...

 

[LordJames]

Why would Syrians cross multiple borders to settle in a country with which they are culturally different, have no common language and not much financial prospects; it makes no sense.


Why would Pakistan accept them when they are so different in everyway.

Proposal makes no sense!

 

[Pakistanian]

OP, we are not a welfare state. We're poor as they come, we can hardly take care of our country let alone new refugees who have nothing in common with us except our religion.

Exactly, we're not a welfare state, we don't have a system so there's no system to break and that means they can't be a burden!

 

[Pakistanian]

We are barely able to feed, educate and clothe our own population plus the refugees we already have who refuse to go back and now you want some more refugees to be brought in?

Besides Syrian refugees are generally those that speak Arabic, French (since it was a French colony) and a little bit of English. (I know this because I have lived and worked alongside Syrians/Lebanese). How will they gel in a country whose language they don't speak?

That's just excuses, Pakistan's been taking in Rohingyas and Somalis and they don't speak our language, refugees don't care about the language barrier and it shouldn't matter in 2017. In America, we get immigrants who don't know a word of English or even know any English even if they've lived here for decades, y'all are just making excuses. Language shouldn't be used to measure somebody's Pakistaniat, otherwise Pakistan would have gelled as a country in the first place cause we have many languages. Also Urdu is a pretty easy language to learn according to a Saudi man I met recently, they know more Urdu then we know (spoken) Arabic. After a generation or two, they'll seamlessly mesh with the nation, in fact since most of them are Muslims and Pakistan would obviously take in the Muslim ones, they're would be more socialization between the refugees and regular Pakistanis.

Y'all shouldn't make language a bone of contention, otherwise Pakistanis wouldn't be risking their lives to live in Greece or Russia, or Korean refugees wouldn't go to China even if their language is not even related.

 

[Pakistanian]

I was just saying that there is already a lot of population in Pakistan due to people having many kids. We don't need more refugees coming in and increasing the population that's already more than enough...

200,000 to 2 million refugees isn't a big number, it's hardly a 1% increase. That's a drop in the ocean.

 

[Pakistanian]

Why would Syrians cross multiple borders to settle in a country with which they are culturally different, have no common language and not much financial prospects; it makes no sense.


Why would Pakistan accept them when they are so different in everyway.

Proposal makes no sense!

Refugees don't care about cultural differences, otherwise they wouldn't be moving to Europe and Australia that are radically different, Pakistan's been taking Rohingyas and Somalis in and in the past Bosnians and Uzbeks and they're all culturally different. The language barrier isn't an issue, they can learn Urdu and according to Arabs I know from the gulf, they find it relatively easy. Also Pakistanis have an interest in Arabic for religious reasons so it'd be easier to teach them the language then teaching Urdu to a bunch of nationalists from Afghanistan. I got Arab friends and we get along just fine in America, I see no reason why Pakistan can't take in their refugees in times of need.

 

[The_KING]

200,000 to 2 million refugees isn't a big number, it's hardly a 1% increase. That's a drop in the ocean.

Why are you so desperate to take in Syrian refugees?

 

[Pakistanian]

First, Syrian refugees are not interested in coming to Pakistan.
Second lebanon is not a country with resources, but hosting 1.5 million syrian refugees (lebanon current population is less than 5 millions and they are also hosting refugees from other countries) which is 30% of their population.

However world is getting smaller for refugees.

Don't go around speaking for the refugees. They would go anywhere to escape the war, that's why they've even gone to wartorn Iraq and Lebanon and have even gone to politically unstable countries like Egypt and Turkey.

 

[Pakistanian]

Why are you so desperate to take in Syrian refugees?

Because I find hypocritical when Pakistanis criticize Trump and right wing politicians for opposing the refugees, especially on twitter but y'all don't even want them in your country.

It's also strange that most of us here are children of immigrants born outside Pakistan, so why should we say other people aren't welcome to move to our country of origin? It's just hypocritical. I feel Pakistan should take them in because Pakistan's an important nation in the muslim world, if they can take in rohingyas they can take in Syrians too.

 

[Thivagar]

I know of Arabs who told me that they're surprised Muslim countries like Pakistan don't take in refugees, while the refugees risk their lives to move to non Muslim countries. It's not that they don't want to move, it's that it's convienient and more beneficial for them if they move to the west. A lot of refugees travel by boat and ship, many have made their way to Australia which is even further away than Pakistan and the refugees get detained on a little island, many of them have also settled in Indonesia. So you're incorrect about the difficulty of travelling to Pakistan. People have been travelling on ships, to and from Pakistan to the Gulf states for many decades, people have traveled as Egypt from Pakistan via the red sea. There's already a small Somali community in Pakistan, there's no reason Syrians can't make and if the government helps out, it'd make things much easier.

Those refugees were the ones that could afford to get to Australia. It costs tons of money to sail across a large body of water. We are talking $35,000 to $50,000 per head(at least to Australia). So obviously they are wealthy and see the greater opportunity in these developed countries. People that move to nearby countries are generally the poorer refugees and can't afford to go elsewhere. It doesn't make sense for the poorer refugees to spend time, energy and more money to travel to Pakistan in a less familiar culture when they can just move to a closer area that is not to far away from their home ?

 

[Pakistanian]

Those refugees were the ones that could afford to get to Australia. It costs tons of money to sail across a large body of water. We are talking $35,000 to $50,000 per head(at least to Australia). So obviously they are wealthy and see the greater opportunity in these developed countries. People that move to nearby countries are generally the poorer refugees and can't afford to go elsewhere. It doesn't make sense for the poorer refugees to spend time, energy and more money to travel to Pakistan in a less familiar culture when they can just move to a closer area that is not to far away from their home ?

Australia and Canada are much further away than Pakistan is, and the Rohingyas and Somalis are also from faraway countries and different cultures and even poorer. Anyways, if the govt of Pakistan starts a program to take in Syrian refugees, a pretty decent number of them would come. What's important is the intent to keep the spirit of Pakistani hospitiality. It doesn't matter if only 1 refugee comes or a million. Pakistan should open its doors. Period.

 

[Thivagar]

Australia and Canada are much further away than Pakistan is, and the Rohingyas and Somalis are also from faraway countries and different cultures and even poorer. Anyways, if the govt of Pakistan starts a program to take in Syrian refugees, a pretty decent number of them would come. What's important is the intent to keep the spirit of Pakistani hospitiality. It doesn't matter if only 1 refugee comes or a million. Pakistan should open its doors. Period.

Did Pakstan open door for Somalian refugees or did they just show up ? Like I said, if they want to come, they will come.

 

[Pakistanian]

Did Pakstan open door for Somalian refugees or did they just show up ? Like I said, if they want to come, they will come.

Pakistan offered them to come through the UN, it's the same thing with Rohingyas. The Pakistani govt took them in cause of social activists demanding them to do so. Y'all are just so ignorant, Pakistan should offer them the option and offer other countries like Lebanon and Turkey who are struggling with the overflow of refugees, to help relocate them. So far Pakistan has avoided anything related to the Syrian civil war, but it should step in and take some of the refugees, afterall Pakistan is a major country in the great game.

 

[Pakpak]

How's it stupid? Y'all acting like they're going to be a burden on the non-existent welfare system

We can't even take care of people we have. And you want to burden us with MORE people with no money, nothing?

Why am I even wasting my time.

 

[Slog]

By taking in Syrian refugees, Pakistan would also dispel the notion that the only reason Pakistan had to take Afghans in was cause we supposedly "wrecked" their country, this would reinforce Pakistan as a hospitable country. What do you guys think?

This is the first time I am hearing about this notion and honestly I know more about this topic than most I can confidently say

It is because our experience with the disaster that were the Afghan refugees that we shoul stay as far away from Syrian refugees as possible. Maybe its a bit harsh on Syrians but we cant take the risk since we opened our heats and doors to Afghans and they turned out to be thankless backstabbers who brought carnage on our nation

 

[The_KING]

Because I find hypocritical when Pakistanis criticize Trump and right wing politicians for opposing the refugees, especially on twitter but y'all don't even want them in your country.

It's also strange that most of us here are children of immigrants born outside Pakistan, so why should we say other people aren't welcome to move to our country of origin? It's just hypocritical. I feel Pakistan should take them in because Pakistan's an important nation in the muslim world, if they can take in rohingyas they can take in Syrians too.

You are one of those people who love to take a moral high ground. In life you have to be a selfish and think about yourself first and that's something Pakistan should do. Your suggestion is terrible.

P.S. We are hypocrites in some way. Again nothing really wrong with that.

 

[Thivagar]

This is the first time I am hearing about this notion and honestly I know more about this topic than most I can confidently say

It is because our experience with the disaster that were the Afghan refugees that we shoul stay as far away from Syrian refugees as possible. Maybe its a bit harsh on Syrians but we cant take the risk since we opened our heats and doors to Afghans and they turned out to be thankless backstabbers who brought carnage on our nation

This is exactly what anti-muslims feel about Muslims coming to their countries. What are you saying that is different from what they are saying ?

 

[saeedhk]

They are not interested in living in Pakistan; they want to live in welfare countries such as Sweden, Denmark et al.

 

[Slog]

This is exactly what anti-muslims feel about Muslims coming to their countries. What are you saying that is different from what they are saying ?

dont follow.

anti immigrants say the same for most regardless of whether they are muslim, hindu or even christians different from their own race

 

[Black Zero]

Don't go around speaking for the refugees. They would go anywhere to escape the war, that's why they've even gone to wartorn Iraq and Lebanon and have even gone to politically unstable countries like Egypt and Turkey.

It is well reported that once refugees reach Europe, then prefer to go to Germany, Norway etc.

Their lives are not in danger in Turkey, Greece etc.

So I do not believe you that they would go anywhere.

 

[Thivagar]

dont follow.

anti immigrants say the same for most regardless of whether they are muslim, hindu or even christians different from their own race

So you are admitting you are not any different from them ? Thanks.

 

[Pakistanian]

So will Imran Khan do something for the Syrian refugees? Will he open the gates to them?

 

[Syed1]

So will Imran Khan do something for the Syrian refugees? Will he open the gates to them?

Pakistan is poor third world country that struggles to feed its own people, why don't the richer countries of the world do something about the Syrian refugees specially the garbage dump of a country that you are a resident of.



Also the Syrian refugee crisis wouldn't even have happened if it wasn't for USA the source of all evil in the world.

 

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan is poor third world country that struggles to feed its own people, why don't the richer countries of the world do something about the Syrian refugees specially the garbage dump of a country that you are a resident of.



Also the Syrian refugee crisis wouldn't even have happened if it wasn't for USA the source of all evil in the world.

Chill out.

Pakistan should do it's part and take in a few thousand.

 

[shaaik]

How many of Europeans migrated from Europe during first and 2nd World War and even after that when the entire europe was almost desroyed to the ground. What would remain of a country if it's inhabitants forsake it altogether. I personally am not a fan of migration when there is a war in your country. It's counterproductive for a country in the long run. All the countries where people hv migrated from on security grounds hv not seen peace returning to them. You fight it out in your country, strive to make things better in your country.

 

[TM Riddle]

Chill out.

Pakistan should do it's part and take in a few thousand.

Why isn't America taking any refugees?

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Not against taking refugees from any country,but the problem is Pakistan cannot even cater for the majority of it's citizens.How can it take in a large amount of people?That would cause more issues.

I still have the same opinion.

Pakistan is a third world country which is already experiencing a water shortage.How can we handle even a hundred thousand more mouths to feed?

 

[FreakCricket]

Arabs have totally different culture and language, no economic opportunities for refugees in future and Pakistan is literally poor.

 

[Pakistanian]

Arabs have totally different culture and language, no economic opportunities for refugees in future and Pakistan is literally poor.

Your culture is also foreign to America. That shouldn't be a reason to not help out people in their time of need.

 

[Loralai]

bhai pehle apne logon ki halat dekh lo, phir doosron ki fikar kerna

 

[Pakistanian]

Why isn't America taking any refugees?

We should, we currently have a racist as President bur hopefully in 2020 we'll get Bernie and he'll open our gates.

 

[Pakistanian]

I still have the same opinion.

Pakistan is a third world country which is already experiencing a water shortage.How can we handle even a hundred thousand more mouths to feed?

Bruh you actin like Pakistan is a welfare state with a systemized safety net looooool. This refugees won't get a penny a part from some UN funds however they will work, open businesses contributing to the economy, adding to the tapestry of Pakistani culture along with that.

Kasmay if they open up REAL shwarma joints that should have them made.

 

[Pakistanian]

bhai pehle apne logon ki halat dekh lo, phir doosron ki fikar kerna

Something a fake liberal would say. Y'all love creating false dichotomies.

 

[TM Riddle]

We should, we currently have a racist as President bur hopefully in 2020 we'll get Bernie and he'll open our gates.

Bernie will probably be dead by then.
Anyway refugee crisis has been going on for sometime now, before Trump became president. Why didn't america take any of them then?

 

[troodon]

What can Pakistan offer these refugees?

Most will prefer affluent countries or immediate neighboring countries.

 

[Pakistanian]

What can Pakistan offer these refugees?

Most will prefer affluent countries or immediate neighboring countries.

Relative peace. Same thing that Pakistan has offered Afghans, Rohingyas, Somalis and Kurds in the past.
I've even had Arabs at my mosque ask me why hasn't Pakistan as a large Muslim nation not been taking in any refugees, so Pakistan is def seen as an option.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Bruh you actin like Pakistan is a welfare state with a systemized safety net looooool. This refugees won't get a penny a part from some UN funds however they will work, open businesses contributing to the economy, adding to the tapestry of Pakistani culture along with that.

Kasmay if they open up REAL shwarma joints that should have them made.

Pakistan has no water loool.More people more resources required looool.Ethnic violence is probable loool.Pakistan does not have jobs for it’s own populationPopulation is higher than the available jobs.Already too many local people here are employed in cheap labour after getting a decentish education.People travel to Saudi Arabia,UAE in search of work.

Joking about Shawarma’s won’t change the reality that Pakistan is overpopulated.Easy to pass on opinions while living in a developed country,visiting Pakistan for a month every 2 years.You seem to be detached from reality.

 

[Saeed]

Yeah one percent of total refugees from every conflict zone wouldn’t be a bad idea. Other countries will admire us and say we are so good.

 

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan has no water loool.More people more resources required looool.Ethnic violence is probable loool.Pakistan does not have jobs for it’s own populationPopulation is higher than the available jobs.Already too many local people here are employed in cheap labour after getting a decentish education.People travel to Saudi Arabia,UAE in search of work.

Joking about Shawarma’s won’t change the reality that Pakistan is overpopulated.Easy to pass on opinions while living in a developed country,visiting Pakistan for a month every 2 years.You seem to be detached from reality.

Shwarma joints are no joke, if afghans can make a living by selling naan then no reason Syrians can't do the same with their cultural food. The food business is always the easiest way for immigrants to make a living.