What's new

Why Indian right-wing elements are so obsessed with Aurangzeb Alamghir who died 300 years ago?

The Bald Eagle

The Bald Eagle

Super Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 25, 2023
Runs
16,242
Why BJP and Hindu right wing is so obsessed with the grave of Mughal rulers?
===

"Aurangzeb's Grave Should Be Demolished': BJP's Navneet Rana Says Amid Row Over Abu Azmi's Remark

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader Navneet Rana on Tuesday launched a scathing attack on Samajwadi Party leader Abu Azmi over his remarks on Mughal ruler Aurangzeb.

The SP Maharashtra chief sparked a major political controversy by defending Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, stating that he was "not a cruel ruler." His remarks have drawn sharp criticism from leaders across party lines.

Rana hit out at the SP leader saying that the state which elected him to sit in the assembly for five years was ruled by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.

"The state in which you are elected to sit in the Assembly for five years was ruled by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj. People like you should watch 'Chhava' movie to see what Aurangzeb did with our king," Navneet Rana said.

"I want to request Maharashtra government that the way Aurangabad's name was changed and kept after our God Sambhaji Maharaj, Aurangzeb's grave should also be demolished. People who love Aurangzeb should decorate his grave in their homes," she added.

Azmi, while speaking to reporters during the commencement of the Maharashtra Assembly session in Mumbai, said Aurangzeb had been misrepresented in history.

"Aurangzeb got several temples built. In Varanasi, he saved a Hindu girl child from a priest who had an evil eye on her. He had the priest trampled by elephants," Azmi said.

"I don’t consider Aurangzeb a cruel ruler. During that era, power struggles were about politics, not about Hindus versus Muslims. Aurangzeb’s army had many Hindus, and similarly, Chhatrapati Shivaji's army had several Muslims," he added.

Shiv Sena has announced a statewide protest against statements disrespecting Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj. The party has demanded that a sedition case be filed against Samajwadi Party leader Abu Azmi and that he be suspended from the Assembly for glorifying Aurangzeb.

Abu Azmi Clarifies Amid Political Row​


Abu Azmi has issue a clarification over his remark that led to a political uproar, saying his words have been twisted and he has not made any derogatory comment about Shivaji.

"My words have been twisted. I have said what historians and writers have said about Aurangzeb Rahmatullah Alaih. I have not made any derogatory comment about Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, Sambhaji Maharaj or any other great men - but still if anyone has been hurt by my statement, then I take back my words, my statement," Azmi said.

"This issue is being made a political issue, and I think that closing the budget session of the Maharashtra Legislative Assembly because of this is causing harm to the people of Maharashtra," he added.
 
BJP MLA Raja Singh demands bulldozer action on Aurangzeb’s grave

BJP MLA from Goshamahal, Raja Singh, has demanded bulldozer action against the grave of Mughal emperor Aurangzeb. Addressing a public gathering in Parbhani, Maharashtra, he urged Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis to take immediate action, claiming that Hindus across the country want Aurangzeb’s name erased from Maharashtra. He insisted that the legacy of the Mughal ruler should not be preserved in the state.

Apart from calling for the demolition of Aurangzeb’s grave, Singh also expressed his dissatisfaction with the name of Aurangabad Airport. He criticized the continued association of the city and its institutions with Aurangzeb, arguing that such historical references should be removed.

His remarks align with his longstanding position against Mughal-era figures, whom he considers oppressive towards Hindus.

Singh did not limit his speech to historical grievances. He also targeted underworld gangster Dawood Ibrahim, urging the Maharashtra government to take strict action against his properties in the state.

According to him, assets linked to the fugitive criminal should be dismantled immediately. Singh has often advocated for stringent measures against figures associated with crime and terrorism, making similar demands in the past.

The MLA also addressed social media restrictions imposed on him. Singh accused Meta, the parent company of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp, of deliberately trying to silence his voice.

He claimed that the removal of social media accounts supporting him was a politically motivated move. Meta had taken action against his accounts under its “dangerous individuals and organizations” policy.

Singh’s Facebook account was already banned over a year ago, and in recent months, his YouTube and Instagram pages were also removed. He alleged that this was part of a broader strategy to suppress nationalist voices that challenge dominant narratives.

His controversial remarks and demands have sparked fresh debate, adding to his history of making provocative statements. Singh’s calls for bulldozer action, both against historical figures and contemporary criminals, continue to generate strong reactions from different sections of society.

While his supporters endorse his nationalist stance, his critics argue that such rhetoric fuels communal tensions.

As the political discourse around historical legacies and law enforcement intensifies, Singh’s statements are likely to remain a focal point of controversy in Maharashtra’s political landscape. — With Agencies Inputs

Source: Muslim Mirror
 
As a right wing Hindu myself, this individual does not represent us or Modi Ji. Such demands have no constitutional recognition in Bharat.
 
Because of all the atrocities committed by Zalim Aurangzeb on Hindus and Sikhs during the Mughal reign.

Any Muslim who supports Aurangzeb means he also supports all the atrocities committed by him and has declared himself as an enemy to Hindus and Sikhs.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Because of all the atrocities committed by Zalim Aurangzeb on Hindus and Sikhs during the Mughal reign.

Any Muslim who supports Aurangzeb means he also supports all the atrocities committed by him and has declared himself as an enemy to Hindus and Sikhs.
Click to expand...
Ok got your point. what about this famous Indian YouTuber...?
 
Because this Orangzeb was a pathetic tyrant. When he gets glorified, it becomes the duty of all Indians to show his true colors. Not the Mughal-e-biryani-Azam that Bollywood feeds to the gullible folks.
 
Since, it's founding, Islamic rulers have bulldozed and decimated pre-existing civilizations to the best of their abilities. It's hypocrisy at it pathetic worst to cry foul about Muslim heritage being under threat.

Some of the very celebrated events of Islam are about destruction and wiping out of then existing civilization.

Muslims have been desecrating ancient civilizations wherever they take charge be it Syria or Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Since, it's founding, Islamic rulers have bulldozed and decimated pre-existing civilizations to the best of their abilities. It's hypocrisy at it pathetic worst to cry foul about Muslim heritage being under threat.

Some of the very celebrated events of Islam are about destruction and wiping out of then existing civilization.

Muslims have been desecrating ancient civilizations wherever they take charge be it Syria or Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran.
Click to expand...

Here is Aang_Bang_Mang_Mang from BJP WhatsApp University. :inti

I urge you to take knowledge from neutral and factual sources. Don't be braiwashed by BJP textbooks.
 
From a personal moral character

Aurangazeb- killed his brothers, imprisoned his father brutally not even giving him a courtesy of ex- king, tortured Hindu Kings to convert, tortured Sikh gurus.

if Aurangazeb was currently alive we would hear the same excuse like “ISIS” “Taliban” don’t stand for Islam type of arguments for him.

0 redeeming qualities.

However good news is Allah punished him for his actions, entire Mughal empire wiped out, the last Mughal emperor died like a nobody in Burma and most of his descendants live in slums of Delhi and Mumbai today and give us a bad name by doing their business on tracks. Feel bad for them and hope they put their heads down and work hard like the rest and get out of there poverty as India provides a lot of opportunities now for everyone without bias.

That’s the honest answer.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Since, it's founding, Islamic rulers have bulldozed and decimated pre-existing civilizations to the best of their abilities. It's hypocrisy at it pathetic worst to cry foul about Muslim heritage being under threat.

Some of the very celebrated events of Islam are about destruction and wiping out of then existing civilization.

Muslims have been desecrating ancient civilizations wherever they take charge be it Syria or Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran.
Click to expand...
Which one?
 
Local.Dada said:
From a personal moral character

Aurangazeb- killed his brothers, imprisoned his father brutally not even giving him a courtesy of ex- king, tortured Hindu Kings to convert, tortured Sikh gurus.

if Aurangazeb was currently alive we would hear the same excuse like “ISIS” “Taliban” don’t stand for Islam type of arguments for him.

0 redeeming qualities.

However good news is Allah punished him for his actions, entire Mughal empire wiped out, the last Mughal emperor died like a nobody in Burma and most of his descendants live in slums of Delhi and Mumbai today and give us a bad name by doing their business on tracks. Feel bad for them and hope they put their heads down and work hard like the rest and get out of there poverty as India provides a lot of opportunities now for everyone without bias.

That’s the honest answer.
Click to expand...
Does India really? A recent report showed that only 100 million people have sufficient buying power, meaning the country isn’t providing enough opportunities for the remaining billion. And if you exclude 200 million Muslims, that leaves only the nonMughal descendants.
 
HalBass9 said:
Does India really? A recent report showed that only 100 million people have sufficient buying power, meaning the country isn’t providing enough opportunities for the remaining billion. And if you exclude 200 million Muslims, that leaves only the nonMughal descendants.
Click to expand...
A recent report pulled from where? Kaam pe lag jao. Also you need to account for poor Muslims from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan too as they were part of Indian subcontinent . What are those numbers?
 
The cult are obsessed with him for the same reason they're obsessed with Pakistan - the cult aspire to their role models cos they have none of their own.

😎
 
Local.Dada said:
A recent report pulled from where? Kaam pe lag jao. Also you need to account for poor Muslims from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan too as they were part of Indian subcontinent . What are those numbers?
Click to expand...
Not your fault, you probably only receive glorify news in your WhatsApp group regarding India.

Try Goldman Sachs, I am pretty sure the editor was neither Muslim nor Pakistani. ;)

If we were to go by the recent report than that Muslim population is still do not add up to the Indian population excluding Muslims of India.
 
Whenever I hear or read the name Aurugnzeb Alamgir I make dua that God envelops him in mercy and forgives his shortcomings.
 
Local.Dada said:
From a personal moral character

Aurangazeb- killed his brothers, imprisoned his father brutally not even giving him a courtesy of ex- king, tortured Hindu Kings to convert, tortured Sikh gurus.

if Aurangazeb was currently alive we would hear the same excuse like “ISIS” “Taliban” don’t stand for Islam type of arguments for him.

0 redeeming qualities.

However good news is Allah punished him for his actions, entire Mughal empire wiped out, the last Mughal emperor died like a nobody in Burma and most of his descendants live in slums of Delhi and Mumbai today and give us a bad name by doing their business on tracks. Feel bad for them and hope they put their heads down and work hard like the rest and get out of there poverty as India provides a lot of opportunities now for everyone without bias.

That’s the honest answer.
Click to expand...
Local dada aren't you really an international dada and living in USA.

You are saying descendants of Aurugnzeb are toiling for their country while you have dumped your passport and run away.

Who is the true lover of India in this scenario. Them or you?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Local dada aren't you really an international dada and living in USA.

You are saying descendants of Aurugnzeb are toiling for their country while you have dumped your passport and run away.

Who is the true lover of India in this scenario. Them or you?
Click to expand...
I am assuming you are in college and still going to start a career but when you have a “job” or “career” the first thing is to get the best available opportunity for your growth. That’s what any legal migrant does. It is a mutually beneficial deal

Now before you get super excited and go to google to post about some illegal Indian immigrants issue, I have nothing to contribute there because in my case it was simple, either I go if I get the job I want or stay back. As simple as that: I am not unique in that regards.

Usually that kind of question is asked by people with 0 prospects from my experience (not aimed at you personally).

I am not a musician but if I was I would want to work in the best orchestra possible wherever it is. That’s how it works.

As far as me dumping my passport. I didn’t.I am an Indian citizen even though I have had eligibility to be a US citizen for many years now and India doesn’t allow dual citizenships so don’t want to give it up.

Anything else?

I always thought India-Pak or Hindu-Muslim the basic sensibilities of middle class and above are the same: maybe I was wrong. That’s why this weird question.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Whenever I hear or read the name Aurugnzeb Alamgir I make dua that God envelops him in mercy and forgives his shortcomings.
Click to expand...

Aurangzeb, born to the legendary Mughal family, the biggest money making juggernaut empire ever in the history of mankind. Whenever i think of him, i feel a huge opportunity missed by him and for this region. He had everything in the palm of his hands, just needed to be diplomatic in his political approach. But that’s me saying as a Hindu. How do you genuinely look back at someone like him as a muslim? I thought Muslims admired him for his expansionist philosophy, it’s my understanding that Muslims really keep it at the top of their agenda to proliferate the Islamic empire at whatever cost so whichever figures in the history did that are looked at as heroes of Islam regardless of how their expansionist agenda hurt other religious communities. I am open minded to hear muslim brothers views about that.

Out of curiosity, do muslims not take into account risk-reward ratio and in hindsight the cost paid by Muslims of the subcontinent due to Aurangzeb spending all that wealth and resources on Mughal/Islam expansion? Muslims have suffered quite a bit from the fall of the Mughal empire. Had Aurangzeb made alliances and kept within his boundaries maybe things could have been much better for them and probably for even the Hindus restricted to Nob Mughal states.

All hindsight of course, i also understand its this mentality only that lead to the formation of the empire in the first place. It’s the nature of the beast. Aurangzeb awakened that beast and paid the price.
 
Yogi Adityanath said it best multiple times that the descendants of those Mughals are currently pulling rickshaws in West Bengal for a living. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:​
 
I'm pretty sure if Hitler and the Nazis were Muslims, Pakistanis would be defending them as well.
 
They got nothing of their own, most prominent landmarks in India were created during Moghul era. Subcontinent was called "sunae ke chirya" during their era, built massive infrastructure brought global trade in the region while Hindu Lords historically were busy spilling bloodbath of each other hence it was never a united region, you wouldn't hear about all that from the extremist radicals Hindudvas.

The nobodies Hindudva are just boiling under hatred as they will do with any excuse to hate Muslim and Islam, such stupidity that if Moghuls really were such barbarians the way they portray, you wouldn't have 1.4 billion Hindus in India today. And so what if some weren't fair, that comes with any leadership role, using that to spread ill and hatred in society is foolish.
 
Local.Dada said:
I am assuming you are in college and still going to start a career but when you have a “job” or “career” the first thing is to get the best available opportunity for your growth. That’s what any legal migrant does. It is a mutually beneficial deal

Now before you get super excited and go to google to post about some illegal Indian immigrants issue, I have nothing to contribute there because in my case it was simple, either I go if I get the job I want or stay back. As simple as that: I am not unique in that regards.

Usually that kind of question is asked by people with 0 prospects from my experience (not aimed at you personally).

I am not a musician but if I was I would want to work in the best orchestra possible wherever it is. That’s how it works.

As far as me dumping my passport. I didn’t.I am an Indian citizen even though I have had eligibility to be a US citizen for many years now and India doesn’t allow dual citizenships so don’t want to give it up.

Anything else?

I always thought India-Pak or Hindu-Muslim the basic sensibilities of middle class and above are the same: maybe I was wrong. That’s why this weird question.
Click to expand...
I seem to have touched a nerve my international brother - the sons of "occupier" Mughals are in their country while the sons of the patriot dada Bhai will be called Steven and working in gas station in America. This is just a fact.

You want them to avail opportunities that you ran away from.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Aurangzeb, born to the legendary Mughal family, the biggest money making juggernaut empire ever in the history of mankind. Whenever i think of him, i feel a huge opportunity missed by him and for this region. He had everything in the palm of his hands, just needed to be diplomatic in his political approach. But that’s me saying as a Hindu. How do you genuinely look back at someone like him as a muslim? I thought Muslims admired him for his expansionist philosophy, it’s my understanding that Muslims really keep it at the top of their agenda to proliferate the Islamic empire at whatever cost so whichever figures in the history did that are looked at as heroes of Islam regardless of how their expansionist agenda hurt other religious communities. I am open minded to hear muslim brothers views about that.

Out of curiosity, do muslims not take into account risk-reward ratio and in hindsight the cost paid by Muslims of the subcontinent due to Aurangzeb spending all that wealth and resources on Mughal/Islam expansion? Muslims have suffered quite a bit from the fall of the Mughal empire. Had Aurangzeb made alliances and kept within his boundaries maybe things could have been much better for them and probably for even the Hindus restricted to Nob Mughal states.

All hindsight of course, i also understand its this mentality only that lead to the formation of the empire in the first place. It’s the nature of the beast. Aurangzeb awakened that beast and paid the price.
Click to expand...
I don't view the empires of that time solely through Hindu Muslim lens. As is well known much of the Mughals administration and think tank was Hindus. For every temple destroyed you can find one that was built.

Similarly for the alleged Hindu empires of the time you can find multiple wrongs alongside their good points.

Expansion was the aim of the game. Mughals first entry into historic India was through battles with other Muslims.

Years later you guys seem to have rewritten elements of the history.
 
Kriketer said:
They got nothing of their own, most prominent landmarks in India were created during Moghul era. Subcontinent was called "sunae ke chirya" during their era, built massive infrastructure brought global trade in the region while Hindu Lords historically were busy spilling bloodbath of each other hence it was never a united region, you wouldn't hear about all that from the extremist radicals Hindudvas.

The nobodies Hindudva are just boiling under hatred as they will do with any excuse to hate Muslim and Islam, such stupidity that if Moghuls really were such barbarians the way they portray, you wouldn't have 1.4 billion Hindus in India today. And so what if some weren't fair, that comes with any leadership role, using that to spread ill and hatred in society is foolish.
Click to expand...
It's reasons like these why Hindus hate those subhumans -

After over four months of seesaw action during which the Mughal forces suffered heavy casualties, the battle eventually broke the deadlock when Jaimal succumbed to a musket shot of Akbar on 22 February 1568. The fort was captured the next morning on the day of Holi after a gallant resistance by the Rajputs. The conquest of Chittor was proclaimed by Akbar as the victory of Islam over infidels.

After the subjugation of the fort, Akbar ordered a general massacre of Chittor's population in the course of which 30,000 Hindu civilians were slaughtered and a large number of women and children were enslaved. Akbar placed the fort under his general Asaf Khan and returned to Agra.

On the night of 22 February 1568, several Rajput women at various places inside the fort committed Jauhar (self-immolation by fire) to protect their honour from the Mughals. Thus, on 23 February 1568 on the day of Hindu festival of Holi, the Rajputs dressed in saffron garments opened the gates for the last stand (Sakha) under the leadership of Patta Chundawat and eventually by night, the fort was captured by the Mughals after a gallant resistance.

After capturing the fort on 23 February 1568, Akbar ordered a general massacre of Chittor's population in which 30,000 Hindu civilians inside the fort who were largely non-combatants were slaughtered. After the mass slaughter, many women and children were enslaved followed by desecration of many Hindu and Jain temples on Akbar's order. Akbar who earlier gave a religious colour to the conflict by declaring it as a Jihād, subsequently proclaimed the conquest of the fort as the victory of Islam over infidels. The Mughal soldiers who died in the combat were hailed as Ghazis by Akbar.​
Click to expand...

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Chittorgarh_(1567–1568)

And before you try to pain everything I've posted as Hindutva propaganda, Akbar's own courtyard Abul Fazal documented everything in Akbar's own biography called Akbarnama.
 
Thank God my ancestors weren't a bunch of spineless, bangle wearing sissies who bowed down in front of the swords of those invaders
 
Last edited by a moderator:
DeadlyVenom said:
I don't view the empires of that time solely through Hindu Muslim lens. As is well known much of the Mughals administration and think tank was Hindus. For every temple destroyed you can find one that was built.

Similarly for the alleged Hindu empires of the time you can find multiple wrongs alongside their good points.

Expansion was the aim of the game. Mughals first entry into historic India was through battles with other Muslims.

Years later you guys seem to have rewritten elements of the history.
Click to expand...

If you could go back in time as an advisor to Aurangzeb when he ascended to the throne, what would you advise him to do with the knowledge of the history that you have.
 
Bhaijaan said:
If you could go back in time as an advisor to Aurangzeb when he ascended to the throne, what would you advise him to do with the knowledge of the history that you have.
Click to expand...
There are many things one could advise but if I had to pick one I would advise him to spare the Sikh guru.
 
Hitman said:
Thank God my ancestors weren't a bunch of spineless, bangle wearing sissies who bowed down in front of the swords of those invaders
Click to expand...

It's shalwar with an H, and for your clan it would be dhootis and loonies. And again circling around the same hate filled islamophobic rubbish, Moghuls ruled most of subcontinent for centuries and if they wanted to then it would have been done by ease, they didn't that's why you are over a billion and Muslims merely make 1/3rd of subcontinent population
 
Last edited by a moderator:
DeadlyVenom said:
There are many things one could advise but if I had to pick one I would advise him to spare the Sikh guru.
Click to expand...

I think that’s a great advice. Guru Tegh Bahadur intervened when Mughals were forcefully converting Kashmiri Hindus. Executing him was a massive event in the history of this land. That event led to the birth of Khalsa and earned Mughals endless hatred from the Hindu, Sikh belt in the north.
 
Kriketer said:
It's shalwar with an H, and for your clan it would be dhootis and loonies. And again circling around the same hate filled islamophobic rubbish, Moghuls ruled most of subcontinent for centuries and if they wanted to drop your dhootis and loongies then it would have been done by ease, they didn't that's why you are over a billion and Muslims merely make 1/3rd of subcontinent population
Click to expand...
You won't reply to post #30?

Regardless,

God Bless, Israel
Long Live, Israel!


May they march on, and on .....
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hitman said:
You won't reply to post #30? 🤡

Regardless,

God Bless, Israel
Long Live, Israel!


May they march on, and on .....
Click to expand...

They were homeless for 3000 years and came begging for refuge to Palestinians from Europe, there was more running around for them than marching :).

Simple facts remains Moghuls ruled you for generations and you even after centuries are having a tough time accepting facts. Forever bounded by inferiority complex is a norm for Hindudvas. Ruled by Moghuls for generation and then ruled by Britishers for generations so your frustration is understandable, but you have no problem with Europeans brutal
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hitman said:
Thank God my ancestors weren't a bunch of spineless, bangle wearing sissies who bowed down in front of the swords of those invaders and opened their salwars.

Like the saying in Hindi goes, 'Unn jaanwaro ke talwaar ke saamne apni salwaar khol di'.
Click to expand...

But they were your ancestors...
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I seem to have touched a nerve my international brother - the sons of "occupier" Mughals are in their country while the sons of the patriot dada Bhai will be called Steven and working in gas station in America. This is just a fact.

You want them to avail opportunities that you ran away from.
Click to expand...
What are you even trying to say lol. Is that an attempt at humor?

“Sons of Mughals” ? Do you see yourself as one since you are a subcontinent Muslim too?

Also there are professions beyond working in a gas station. Nothing wrong with that though but hilarious that’s the first thing that popped in your head while 2nd gen Hindu Indians are running for presidents, being heads of FBi and CEOs. Maybe your time has passed but thing big for next gen would be my advice 👍
 

'Aurangzeb Made Akhand Bharat': AIMIM MLA Hails Mughal Emperor Amid Row Over Abu Azmi's Remarks​


AIMIM Bihar unit chief and MLA Akhtarul Iman on Wednesday called Mughal emperor Aurangzeb a “noble emperor,” and said that he unified India and made it ‘Akhand Bharat.’. Speaking to the news agency ANI, Iman further said that Aurangzeb did not loot India like the Britishers; instead, he served the country. The remarks from the AIMIM MLA came amid a raging controversy over Samajwadi Party MLA Abu Azmi's comments praising the Mughal Emperor.

Eulogizing Aurangzeb, Azmi, president of the Samajwadi Party's state unit, had said that during his reign, India's border reached Afghanistan and Burma (Myanmar). Azmi had reportedly also stated that Aurangzeb was not a "cruel administrator" and "built many temples," as reported by ANI. He added that the battle between the Mughal emperor and Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj was for state administration and not about Hindu and Muslim.

Azmi’s remarks drew flak and led to his suspension from the Maharashtra legislative assembly till the ongoing budget session ends on March 26. Reacting to the action taken against the SP leader, Akhtarul Iman criticized the BJP, saying that the saffron party has no other work, and they only see political gains through the politics of hatred.

"BJP has no other work but to have political gains through politics of hatred...Aurangzeb was a noble emperor. He earned a livelihood by stitching caps. He didn't use taxpayers' money on himself,” the AIMIM MLA said.

“He was buried here. He didn't loot and leave like the British, but he served this country. He unified India, stretching from Afghanistan to Burma (Myanmar), and made it 'Akhand Bharat.' He treated both temples and mosques equally. So, why is such a controversy being stoked? ...The Supreme Court should take suo motu cognizance of such governments. The action (against Abu Azmi) is unconstitutional," he further stated.

Crying injustice, Azmi said the action against him was taken despite him retracting his remark. Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath asked the Samajwadi Party to take a stand on Azmi’s remarks, demanding that it must expel him for glorifying the Mughal ruler. Maharashtra minister Chandrakant Patil moved the motion of suspension of Azmi from the House for the remainder of the session’s term.

Members of the treasury benches said Aurangzeb's praise amounted to an insult to Maratha king Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj and his son Chhatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj. The motion was passed by a voice vote.

zeenews.india.com

Aurangzeb Made Akhand Bharat: AIMIM MLA Hails Mughal Emperor Amid Row Over Abu Azmis Remarks

SP leader Azmi had reportedly stated that Aurangzeb was not a cruel administrator and he built many temples.
zeenews.india.com zeenews.india.com
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I seem to have touched a nerve my international brother - the sons of "occupier" Mughals are in their country while the sons of the patriot dada Bhai will be called Steven and working in gas station in America. This is just a fact.

You want them to avail opportunities that you ran away from.
Click to expand...
You really did. He is a hypocrite enjoying his lavish life outside India while attacking those who criticize the country in an effort to make it better. He can't handle the fact that criticism can come from a place of wanting improvement. :inti
 
HalBass9 said:
Does India really? A recent report showed that only 100 million people have sufficient buying power, meaning the country isn’t providing enough opportunities for the remaining billion. And if you exclude 200 million Muslims, that leaves only the nonMughal descendants.
Click to expand...

Local.Dada said:
A recent report pulled from where? Kaam pe lag jao. Also you need to account for poor Muslims from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan too as they were part of Indian subcontinent . What are those numbers?
Click to expand...
Were you talking about this report? @HalBass9 :inti

90% Indians have no discretionary spending power: Blume Ventures Report​


The top 10 percent of India’s population remains the primary driver of consumption and economic growth, Indus Valley Annual Report 2025 by Blume Ventures states.​


Nearly 100 crore Indians, 90 percent of the country’s population, lack discretionary spending power to purchase goods or services, according to media reports citing a study by venture capital firm Blume Ventures.

The top 10 percent of India’s population—equivalent to Mexico’s entire population of around 13-14 crore—remains the primary driver of consumption and economic growth, as highlighted in the Indus Valley Annual Report 2025 by Blume Ventures.


The report notes that this “consuming class” in Asia’s third-largest economy is not expanding in size but rather becoming wealthier, meaning the rich are getting richer while the overall number of wealthy individuals remains stagnant, according to a BBC analysis of the report.

Additionally, another 300 million people are categorised as “emerging” or “aspirant” consumers. These individuals have recently begun spending more but remain cautious with their expenditures.


‘Consuming class not widening, but deepening’​


The report also stated that the latest consumption downturn has intensified, driven not only by a decline in purchasing power but also by a sharp drop in financial savings and a surge in mass indebtedness.

These consumption patterns have shaped India’s market strategy, with brands increasingly focusing on “premiumisation” rather than mass-market products. The report also highlights a shift in the real estate sector, where affordable housing now accounts for just 18 percent of the market, down from 40 percent five years ago.

 
Hitman said:
Thank God my ancestors weren't a bunch of spineless, bangle wearing sissies who bowed down in front of the swords of those invaders
Click to expand...
Chances are the invaders never asked them to convert. Shows the benevolent nature of the Moghuls
 
Kriketer said:
They got nothing of their own, most prominent landmarks in India were created during Moghul era. Subcontinent was called "sunae ke chirya" during their era, built massive infrastructure brought global trade in the region while Hindu Lords historically were busy spilling bloodbath of each other hence it was never a united region, you wouldn't hear about all that from the extremist radicals Hindudvas.

The nobodies Hindudva are just boiling under hatred as they will do with any excuse to hate Muslim and Islam, such stupidity that if Moghuls really were such barbarians the way they portray, you wouldn't have 1.4 billion Hindus in India today. And so what if some weren't fair, that comes with any leadership role, using that to spread ill and hatred in society is foolish.
Click to expand...

India was a rich region long before Mughals came. Muslim invaders came to loot that wealth.

Greeks and Chinese travellers have written extensively about architecture of India long before Mughals or any Muslims came.

Mughals came from Central Asia. Ferghana was where Babur was born. Can you name a few massive infrastructure they built at their home base?

There are massive architectural structures that exist in India long before any Mughal came. Kailasa temple and Brihadeshwar temple to name a few.

Ofcourse invading hordes destroyed most of these structures in northern and eastern India to loot and for religious persecution. As temples where the biggest structures in mediaeval India and also possesed huge wealth.

India was trading with Greeks Romans and Arabs. Long before any Mughal came here.

If it was so easy to kill Hindus, Mughals had done it. Hindus and later Sikhs kept fighting. The Rajputs The Marathas, The Ahoms, The Southern kingdoms, The Gajapatis, The small kingdoms in Bengal they all kept fighting to keep their religion.

Not everyone falls because of the fear of the sword.
 
cricketjoshila said:
India was a rich region long before Mughals came. Muslim invaders came to loot that wealth.

Greeks and Chinese travellers have written extensively about architecture of India long before Mughals or any Muslims came.

Mughals came from Central Asia. Ferghana was where Babur was born. Can you name a few massive infrastructure they built at their home base?

There are massive architectural structures that exist in India long before any Mughal came. Kailasa temple and Brihadeshwar temple to name a few.

Ofcourse invading hordes destroyed most of these structures in northern and eastern India to loot and for religious persecution. As temples where the biggest structures in mediaeval India and also possesed huge wealth.

India was trading with Greeks Romans and Arabs. Long before any Mughal came here.

If it was so easy to kill Hindus, Mughals had done it. Hindus and later Sikhs kept fighting. The Rajputs The Marathas, The Ahoms, The Southern kingdoms, The Gajapatis, The small kingdoms in Bengal they all kept fighting to keep their religion.

Not everyone falls because of the fear of the sword.
Click to expand...
I wish I lived in Kolkata. I would have made you my guru. Not kidding. You have infinite knowledge on so many subjects.
 
Hitman said:
Except that those Mughals are dead, and their descendants are currently rickshaw pullers. Israel is alive and doing what they do best.

Care to reply to post # 30?
Click to expand...
I don't need to but the Bollywood should answer it

"Azeem us Shan shahensa" lol
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top