Why is Pakistan's victorious tour of India in 2005 so underrated?

[Ahmad Shah]

i wonder no one mention this tour

Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan

but no one really gives credit of Pakistan successful tour to India

in my opinion it is the most cheerful cricketing memory we have

we have drawn the test series successfully when we were with 1-0 it was the most remarkable comeback ever by Pakistan team

in my opinion it was the biggest ODI SERIES victory ever against any country


yes i agree Pakistan defeated the strongest Australian team of all time in Their own back yard at odi series in 2002 by 2-1........defeated south africa in south africa by 2-1 in 2013
defeated India in India by 2-1 in 2013


but still this is much bigger achievement because of three reasons

1) it was a six match odi series not a 3 matches odi series

2) Pakistan was initially down by 0-2 and eventually won next four matches consecutively to finish series as winner by 4-2


3) all that happen with a quite mediocre bowling attack comprises of rana naveed, rao iftikhar , sami , razzaq , arshad khan and kaneria



4) pakistan was in a rebuilding phase . in this team there was no saeed anwar ejaz ahmad, wasim ,waqar ,shoaib akhtar and saqlain

5) Indian team was much superior on paper and had great batting line up which includes SACHIN , SEHWAAG , GANGULY , DHONI , DRAVID , GHAMBIR , YUVRAJ

6)Pakistan batting was quite inexperience salman butt, M hafeez , kamran akmal, yasir hameed and shoaib malik all had not much experience



IS THERE ANY ACHIEVEMENT BIGGER THAN THIS IS TERMS OF ODI SERIES???

 

[Ahmad Shah]

this series was memorable due to number of reasons
1) despite in experience batting our batting unit played beautifully under pressure and almost every one contributed

2) despite having mediocre bowling attack pakistan destroyed indian batting lineup again and again

3) Rana naveed bowled like Dennis Lille and was highest wicket taker he ripped apart indian batting line up he emerged as a hero . he owned sehwaag full time in this series got him cheaply five times consecutively

our no other bowling superstar won us a 5 or more matches odi series in india except rana
not eve akram akhtar or waqar so TAKE THAT

4) Indian team was far more superior than Pakistan team on paper

5) this series ended Saurav ganguly five years old captaincy and almost ended his career . though he made a comeback because he was a strong character but it took alot of time for him to regain his form and make a comeback

6)after this series Indian coach John Wright was removed and Greg Chappel was introduced . Chappel use Ganguly poor form in this series as an excuse to remove ganguly and we had seen some ugly nasty controversy between chappel and ganguly

this controversy effected whole indian cricket team and we see lack of unity in them for next two years till 2007 where they were out in very first round


LAST BUT NOT LEAST U HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT FOR BRILLIANT CAPTAINCY BY INZAMAM UL HAQ THOUGH I KNOW HE IS NOT RATED MUCH FOR HIS CAPTAINCY

 

[DRsohail]

YEs it was one of memorable series...reallyt like the phainty given to may.

 

[Ahmad Shah]

this tour was memorable for kanpur massacre
second fastest odi century of that time

when afridi gets in his aggressive beast mode in batting (though once in blue moon)
that day becomes nightmare for opposition


afridi also bowled a memorable spell in final test at banglore
in last session he took three jey wickets of sachin laxman and ganguly to win that test match

daring decision by inzamam to delcare the inning and go for the kill

younus khan conquest of banglore with his inning of 267 was his best inning or may be as good as double century at oval 2016

inzi made hundred at bangalore which was 100th test of his career

the odi series also brought balaji career to an end
and a looooong pause to ashish nehra career
nehra made a come back in team after many years in 2009

 

[pakistani pride]

Rana was on fire. He really had the pace and swing!

 

[Napa]

i wonder no one mention this tour

Look up the meaning of the acronym JAMODI.

Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan

Wrong. You may have come across a random Indian fan who does, but as an Indian I can tell you that it doesn't register for most Indian fans. Who cares about JAMODIs anyway when there is a 11-0 WC record to think about.

 

[pakistani pride]

Look up the meaning of the acronym JAMODI.



Wrong. You may have come across a random Indian fan who does, but as an Indian I can tell you that it doesn't register for most Indian fans. Who cares about JAMODIs anyway when there is a 11-0 WC record to think about.

LOL

there are no JAMODIS.when it comes to IND vs PAK.
Be real....

 

[msb314]

this series was memorable due to number of reasons
1) despite in experience batting our batting unit played beautifully under pressure and almost every one contributed

2) despite having mediocre bowling attack pakistan destroyed indian batting lineup again and again

3) Rana naveed bowled like Dennis Lille and was highest wicket taker he ripped apart indian batting line up he emerged as a hero . he owned sehwaag full time in this series got him cheaply five times consecutively

our no other bowling superstar won us a 5 or more matches odi series in india except rana
not eve akram akhtar or waqar so TAKE THAT

4) Indian team was far more superior than Pakistan team on paper

5) this series ended Saurav ganguly five years old captaincy and almost ended his career . though he made a comeback because he was a strong character but it took alot of time for him to regain his form and make a comeback

6)after this series Indian coach John Wright was removed and Greg Chappel was introduced . Chappel use Ganguly poor form in this series as an excuse to remove ganguly and we had seen some ugly nasty controversy between chappel and ganguly

this controversy effected whole indian cricket team and we see lack of unity in them for next two years till 2007 where they were out in very first round


LAST BUT NOT LEAST U HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT FOR BRILLIANT CAPTAINCY BY INZAMAM UL HAQ THOUGH I KNOW HE IS NOT RATED MUCH FOR HIS CAPTAINCY

Great list but don’t forget the rise of Younis Khan due to that series.

 

[msb314]

i wonder no one mention this tour

Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan

but no one really gives credit of Pakistan successful tour to India

in my opinion it is the most cheerful cricketing memory we have

we have drawn the test series successfully when we were with 1-0 it was the most remarkable comeback ever by Pakistan team

in my opinion it was the biggest ODI SERIES victory ever against any country


yes i agree Pakistan defeated the strongest Australian team of all time in Their own back yard at odi series in 2002 by 2-1........defeated south africa in south africa by 2-1 in 2013
defeated India in India by 2-1 in 2013


but still this is much bigger achievement because of three reasons

1) it was a six match odi series not a 3 matches odi series

2) Pakistan was initially down by 0-2 and eventually won next four matches consecutively to finish series as winner by 4-2


3) all that happen with a quite mediocre bowling attack comprises of rana naveed, rao iftikhar , sami , razzaq , arshad khan and kaneria



4) pakistan was in a rebuilding phase . in this team there was no saeed anwar ejaz ahmad, wasim ,waqar ,shoaib akhtar and saqlain

5) Indian team was much superior on paper and had great batting line up which includes SACHIN , SEHWAAG , GANGULY , DHONI , DRAVID , GHAMBIR , YUVRAJ

6)Pakistan batting was quite inexperience salman butt, M hafeez , kamran akmal, yasir hameed and shoaib malik all had not much experience



IS THERE ANY ACHIEVEMENT BIGGER THAN THIS IS TERMS OF ODI SERIES???

Part of the reason is that although we did tremendously well to win in Bangalore - the Test series was still drawn 1-1.

The ODI series win however was amazing

India’s tour of 2004 resulted I. Them winning both the Test and ODI series so that obviously was more historic. On top of that - it was their first ever Test series win in Pakistan.

 

[Napa]

LOL

there are no JAMODIS.when it comes to IND vs PAK.
Be real....

I had to go to espncric to get the results of the 2004 ODI series. A 3-2 series victory does not stick in the mind. An 11-0 record does

 

[Ahmad Shah]

never seen never remember

indian team got so much humiliated in their own back yard with such margin

winning ODI series in india against india was very rare those days
in the decade of 2000 india lost only odi series only to pakistan and australia

at the end of series

indian coach resigned
indian captain resigned

ganguly career ended despite many come backs never remain same finally got retired in 2008
after kanpur massacre nehra and balaji career ended though nehra manage to make a comeback after four years but sadly it was all over for balaji

 

[Ahmad Shah]

after this series

inzamam got extenstion in captaincy for another two years

salman butt earned permanent spot as opener

Rana earned permanent spot as main bowler till 2009

kamran akmal place was also cemented and moin khan announced retirement

Pakistan team got a welcome like heroes when they return home

 

[Napa]

never seen never remember

indian team got so much humiliated in their own back yard with such margin

While it is true that "humiliations" are remembered depending upon a person's nationality, I would say that in absolute terms a 0-11 "humiliation" is much more of a humiliation than a 2-4 "humiliation". You can't really blame Indian fans for not remembering a 2-4.

 

[Abdullah719]

While it is true that "humiliations" are remembered depending upon a person's nationality, I would say that in absolute terms a 0-11 "humiliation" is much more of a humiliation than a 2-4 "humiliation". You can't really blame Indian fans for not remembering a 2-4.

Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan

but no one really gives credit of Pakistan successful tour to India

in my opinion it is the most cheerful cricketing memory we have

we have drawn the test series successfully when we were with 1-0 it was the most remarkable comeback ever by Pakistan team

I do believe this thread is directed at Pakistani fans.

 

[Varun]

Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan

We celebrate both the Tests and ODIs as a successful package, not just the 3-2 ODI result.

at the end of series

indian coach resigned
indian captain resigned

Nope and nope. John Wright was always going to step down after that series, so he didn't quit as a result of it.

Ganguly only resigned more than a year later in Zimbabwe when he had his first tiff with Chappell.

 

[Ahmad Shah]

We celebrate both the Tests and ODIs as a successful package, not just the 3-2 ODI result.



Nope and nope. John Wright was always going to step down after that series, so he didn't quit as a result of it.

Ganguly only resigned more than a year later in Zimbabwe when he had his first tiff with Chappell.

wrong

dravid was nominated captain during that series
and dravid continued as captain till 2007 worldcup

u talked about more than a year???
just after six months in jan 2006 india toured pakistan for test series and dravid was the captain in that whole long series and ganguly was benched as a water boy

 

[Napa]

I do believe this thread is directed at Pakistani fans.

I was responding to the OP's statement "Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan". After 13 years, not many remember a bilateral ODI series.

If Indian fans really think about Ind-Pak ODIs, they are obviously going to be thinking about the living 11-0 streak on cricket's biggest stage, rather than some 3-2 series victory more than a decade ago.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I was responding to the OP's statement "Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan". After 13 years, not many remember a bilateral ODI series.

If Indian fans really think about Ind-Pak ODIs, they are obviously going to be thinking about the living 11-0 streak on cricket's biggest stage, rather than some 3-2 series victory more than a decade ago.

They will also remember the phainty they got recently in the FINAL of an ICC tournament, when they really think about Ind-Pak ODIs. The 11-0 record is embarrassing for Pakistan fans, but a defeat by 180 runs in an important final by the arch-rivals hits home hard too I bet.

 

[Abdullah719]

I was responding to the OP's statement "Indian fans always celebrate their successful tour of 2004 in Pakistan". After 13 years, not many remember a bilateral ODI series.

If Indian fans really think about Ind-Pak ODIs, they are obviously going to be thinking about the living 11-0 streak on cricket's biggest stage, rather than some 3-2 series victory more than a decade ago.

I'm not sure if the OP is referring to the 2004 ODI series, but the Test series probably is memorable for Indian fans. I recall posts about Sehwag 'ending' Saqlain's career.

ODI series are generally not very memorable; I certainly don't recall much of the 2005 series but specific parts of it, such as Afridi's Kanpur assault are certainly memorable.

Similarly, the first ODI from the 2004 series is quite memorable too.

 

[junaidji]

Look up the meaning of the acronym JAMODI.



Wrong. You may have come across a random Indian fan who does, but as an Indian I can tell you that it doesn't register for most Indian fans. Who cares about JAMODIs anyway when there is a 11-0 WC record to think about.

In all honesty, most of the world cup victories India has registered against Pakistan are JAMODI's. The only games of major consequence were the 1996 Quarterfinal, 2007 WT20 final, and 2011 Semifinal, where India managed to knock Pakistan out of the tournaments. Pakistan won the 1992 world cup and made the finals in 1999 even though we lost to India in both tournaments. Even if Pakistan managed win at least 3-4 world cup games, these ICC records wouldn't be such a big deal. But then again there is World Cup 2019 !

 

[giri26]

I think the 2004 series was memorable because India played in Pakistan after 15 years. Also that was India's first series win in Pakistan. That was also India's first series win overseas against a major test playing nation in about 11 years (They had won a one off test against Bangladesh though). So obviously that series was memorable for India. If Pakistan had won the test series and the proceeding ODI series, even that series would have been memorable. Bilateral ODI series slip peoples mind as there are so many of them played. Few games of the series might be remembered due to some individual brilliance of players, like the Kanpur ODI, Inzamam's lone effort in the 2004 ODI series in the first game etc..But overall no one remembers these series.

 

[bujhee kom]

Was a good win. Was also almost 13 years ago. ) )

 

[austerlitz]

It would have been memorable if you had won the test series.ODI bilaterals have little long term value.For ODIs only ICC tournaments matter.

 

[Madplayer]

It would have been memorable if you had won the test series.ODI bilaterals have little long term value.For ODIs only ICC tournaments matter.

Lol certainly all the ODIs matter when a series against your tough rival is on the line.

I see this as a defence mechanism developed by Indians to console themselves and overcome the fact that India have a much inferior record in HTH games against Pakistan in both tests and ODIs. In ODIs the gap is massive. So whats the best bet for Indians, hey we won the few encounters in world cups and only world cup matches matter.

The fact is that it was only one time that India managed to make some meaningful progress after beating Pakistan in a world cup match and that was in 2011 WC. While Pakistan even after losing to India in 1992 went on to lift the cup. And also made finals the other time.

 

[msb314]

I'm not sure if the OP is referring to the 2004 ODI series, but the Test series probably is memorable for Indian fans. I recall posts about Sehwag 'ending' Saqlain's career.

ODI series are generally not very memorable; I certainly don't recall much of the 2005 series but specific parts of it, such as Afridi's Kanpur assault are certainly memorable.

Similarly, the first ODI from the 2004 series is quite memorable too.

Memorable moments from the 2005 ODI series including Dhoni’s arrival on the international scene with a blistering 148 at the Vizag and Pakistan.chasing their first ever 300+ score at Ahmedabad in addition to Afridi’s Kanpur assault.

 

[big_gamer007]

I remember the series vividly but such series would not be remembered long term because of following reasons:

1. Ex-players need to talk about the series every now and then to keep it fresh in memory of fans. E.g. a lot of ex players speaking about India winning against Australia in 2001 every now and then..
2. TV channels should show highlights from the series every now and then e.g. how they show Natwest final which is still fresh in minds of most fans..

2005 series I don’t think they show here in India nor any Indian ex player talks about it so being a bilateral fans forget about it after 12 years..

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol certainly all the ODIs matter when a series against your tough rival is on the line.

I see this as a defence mechanism developed by Indians to console themselves and overcome the fact that India have a much inferior record in HTH games against Pakistan in both tests and ODIs. In ODIs the gap is massive. So whats the best bet for Indians, hey we won the few encounters in world cups and only world cup matches matter.

The fact is that it was only one time that India managed to make some meaningful progress after beating Pakistan in a world cup match and that was in 2011 WC. While Pakistan even after losing to India in 1992 went on to lift the cup. And also made finals the other time.

1996 was toughest beat for Pakistan read old interviews where players had to go home via Dubai at night or wear burkha to cover faces and stuff..

Your first line says ODI against your rivals matter then you dismiss WC matches as nothing.. A loss against India in WC whether it be 92,99,2003 was bad.. In 92 since Pakistan won it was forgotten but till Pakistan was on brink of going out the loss stung..

Tbf whenever India has been a better team than Pakistan we have had phases of no cricket between two countries and Pakistan built their HTH when their team was better in 80’s and 90’s.. But yes everyone cricket fan from India would want India to get a better HTH against Pakistan but I don’t think it will be possible for next 20-30 years because of the amount of games we play..

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

1996 was toughest beat for Pakistan read old interviews where players had to go home via Dubai at night or wear burkha to cover faces and stuff..

Your first line says ODI against your rivals matter then you dismiss WC matches as nothing.. A loss against India in WC whether it be 92,99,2003 was bad.. In 92 since Pakistan won it was forgotten but till Pakistan was on brink of going out the loss stung..

Tbf whenever India has been a better team than Pakistan we have had phases of no cricket between two countries and Pakistan built their HTH when their team was better in 80’s and 90’s.. But yes everyone cricket fan from India would want India to get a better HTH against Pakistan but I don’t think it will be possible for next 20-30 years because of the amount of games we play..

No lolz. In 2012 Team Misbah pwned you with a bunch of nobodies. Team India was owning rest of world at home without even trying.

When it's PakvInd nothing matters. Any team can win.

It's a pity tho, that Ashwin and Jadeja didn't visit UAE against Misbah/YK...

 

[big_gamer007]

No lolz. In 2012 Team Misbah pwned you with a bunch of nobodies. Team India was owning rest of world at home without even trying.

When it's PakvInd nothing matters. Any team can win.

It's a pity tho, that Ashwin and Jadeja didn't visit UAE against Misbah/YK...

2012 we were also in rebuilding phase and had over the hill or loss of form players.. But yes in India vs Pakistan anything is possible..

 

[Sidilicious]

Lol certainly all the ODIs matter when a series against your tough rival is on the line.

I see this as a defence mechanism developed by Indians to console themselves and overcome the fact that India have a much inferior record in HTH games against Pakistan in both tests and ODIs. In ODIs the gap is massive. So whats the best bet for Indians, hey we won the few encounters in world cups and only world cup matches matter.

The fact is that it was only one time that India managed to make some meaningful progress after beating Pakistan in a world cup match and that was in 2011 WC. While Pakistan even after losing to India in 1992 went on to lift the cup. And also made finals the other time.

You are getting it wrong. The ODI series was just a 4-2 win. Your real success story was in tests, drawing Mohali and winning in B'lore. Even though the series was drawn 1-1, it felt like a loss for us, and a win for you.

 

[Madplayer]

1996 was toughest beat for Pakistan read old interviews where players had to go home via Dubai at night or wear burkha to cover faces and stuff..

Your first line says ODI against your rivals matter then you dismiss WC matches as nothing.. A loss against India in WC whether it be 92,99,2003 was bad.. In 92 since Pakistan won it was forgotten but till Pakistan was on brink of going out the loss stung..

Tbf whenever India has been a better team than Pakistan we have had phases of no cricket between two countries and Pakistan built their HTH when their team was better in 80’s and 90’s.. But yes everyone cricket fan from India would want India to get a better HTH against Pakistan but I don’t think it will be possible for next 20-30 years because of the amount of games we play..

No ,i was not saying India's wins in world cup maches are not important. I was merely using Indian logic that only world cup matches matter because there you are playing for the cup. Going By this logic, if among all encounters in the world cup, India went the whole way and lifted the cup only once, then the rest of world cup wins against Pakistan were also no big achievements.

Long story short, to dismiss Pakistan's superior record in tests and ODIs (minus world cup) is an excuse and sort of a cathartic treatment used by Indians to feel better.

 

[Madplayer]

You are getting it wrong. The ODI series was just a 4-2 win. Your real success story was in tests, drawing Mohali and winning in B'lore. Even though the series was drawn 1-1, it felt like a loss for us, and a win for you.

Pakistan were 2-0 down in that series and won it 2-4. How is that not the comeback of Indo-Pak Odi series history?

 

[Markhor]

Remember the series well.

The team was derided as having the worst bowling attack to have ever toured India. But the new found resilience of the team under Woolmer was evident when we managed to grind out a draw in Mohali.

Bangalore will never be forgotten, be it for Younis and Inzamam's mammoth partnership, or sealing the win by knocking over Balaji's cap.

We made a terrific comeback in the ODI series after going 2-0 down. I remember seeing Dhoni for the first time in Vizag thinking who the hell is this kid and the sheer audacity of his strokeplay at No.3 in an India-Pakistan series.

I don't remember the Jamshedpur game well other than Rana Naved's brilliant bowling performance, taking 6-27. He wasn't the most naturally talented of bowlers but he had heart and bowled well to Sehwag (who was terrifying against us during that era) in that series.

The chase in Ahmedabad was incredibly tense but Inzamam had nerves of steel to finish the game. There was a lot of trepidation about staging the match there after the Gujarat riots of 2002 but IIRC the match passed without incident.

The Kanpur massacre doesn't need description. My favourite game was at Delhi though. It was a proper beatdown and the icing on the cake. All this happened without Shoaib Akhtar too. Looking back, it was Woolmer and Inzamam's finest hour.

 

[big_gamer007]

No ,i was not saying India's wins in world cup maches are not important. I was merely using Indian logic that only world cup matches matter because there you are playing for the cup. Going By this logic, if among all encounters in the world cup, India went the whole way and lifted the cup only once, then the rest of world cup wins against Pakistan were also no big achievements.

Long story short, to dismiss Pakistan's superior record in tests and ODIs (minus world cup) is an excuse and sort of a cathartic treatment used by Indians to feel better.

It’s the banter between both set of fans Indian fans like to bring up world cups Pakistani fans bring up HTH and now CT..

Eventually only series or matches which is remembered for a long time are the ones which are continually talked by ex-players and shown repeats on TV.. Indian TV won’t show bilaterals which India lost badly they will show matches India won similarly I would assume same is the case in Pakistan..

Hence the 2005 series would be forgotten eventually and would become just one of the many bilaterals.. However WC wins, Javed miandad mocking Kiran more, Venky knocking sohails stump, Sachin hitting Shoaib over 3rd man for six, Dhoni hitting six to win WC etc are moments you see every once in a while on TV hence Indian fans would not forget them and they stay fresh in their mind..

It’s simole sports channel show what viewers want to watch and not many Indians would want to watch matches India lost against their arch rivals hence they don’t show them in repeats hence ultimately people forget about them..

But when the losses happened at that moment obviously it hurt the fans no one would deny that..

 

[shariqnoor]

I've always wondered what was so special about that third man six by Tendulkar off Shoaib. The pace of the delivery did everything. All Tendulkar did was put bat to ball basically but the media has made it into something iconic. Now had Tendulkar hit a six off Shoaib like he hit one off Caddick, that would've been an iconic moment. Anyways, that Tendulkar innings against us in the 2003 world cup was a sight to behold. He was incredible in that innings.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Remember the series well.

The team was derided as having the worst bowling attack to have ever toured India. But the new found resilience of the team under Woolmer was evident when we managed to grind out a draw in Mohali.

Bangalore will never be forgotten, be it for Younis and Inzamam's mammoth partnership, or sealing the win by knocking over Balaji's cap.

We made a terrific comeback in the ODI series after going 2-0 down. I remember seeing Dhoni for the first time in Vizag thinking who the hell is this kid and the sheer audacity of his strokeplay at No.3 in an India-Pakistan series.

I don't remember the Jamshedpur game well other than Rana Naved's brilliant bowling performance, taking 6-27. He wasn't the most naturally talented of bowlers but he had heart and bowled well to Sehwag (who was terrifying against us during that era) in that series.

The chase in Ahmedabad was incredibly tense but Inzamam had nerves of steel to finish the game. There was a lot of trepidation about staging the match there after the Gujarat riots of 2002 but IIRC the match passed without incident.

The Kanpur massacre doesn't need description. My favourite game was at Delhi though. It was a proper beatdown and the icing on the cake. All this happened without Shoaib Akhtar too. Looking back, it was Woolmer and Inzamam's finest hour.

I think that Indian tour and Test win vs England showed how underrated 'Inzi the Captain' is. He won key tactical battles vs his Indian/English counterparts and led from front with the bat.

Regarding Rana Naved: That's the beauty of PakvInd games: every player brings his A game. Even likes of Nasir Jamshed can bat like elite batsmen.

 

[Oligochaetes]

I've always wondered what was so special about that third man six by Tendulkar off Shoaib. The pace of the delivery did everything. All Tendulkar did was put bat to ball basically but the media has made it into something iconic. Now had Tendulkar hit a six off Shoaib like he hit one off Caddick, that would've been an iconic moment. Anyways, that Tendulkar innings against us in the 2003 world cup was a sight to behold. He was incredible in that innings.

I remember Razzaq dropping Sachin off Akram.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

I remember Razzaq dropping Sachin off Akram.

And they say we (the Pakistanis) hate SRT We've consistently gifted him lives in WC games

Heck we got such a big heart that we gifted one to Kohli as well

 

[jnaveen1980]

Gambhir's horrendous run out of Sehwag completely changed the game at Bangalore. But from an Indian perspective It was all about fans baying for the blood of Ganguly. They even started a website ihateganguly.com .

 

[Bilal7]

I think that Indian tour and Test win vs England showed how underrated 'Inzi the Captain' is. He won key tactical battles vs his Indian/English counterparts and led from front with the bat.

Regarding Rana Naved: That's the beauty of PakvInd games: every player brings his A game. Even likes of Nasir Jamshed can bat like elite batsmen.

Inzamam was a very fine leader. It was not easy being captain of Pakistan in that decade (when is it ever?) but Inzamam commanded respect from the entire dressing room and the team was never more united during the noughties than under his captaincy.

 

[austerlitz]

Lol certainly all the ODIs matter when a series against your tough rival is on the line.

I see this as a defence mechanism developed by Indians to console themselves and overcome the fact that India have a much inferior record in HTH games against Pakistan in both tests and ODIs. In ODIs the gap is massive. So whats the best bet for Indians, hey we won the few encounters in world cups and only world cup matches matter.

The fact is that it was only one time that India managed to make some meaningful progress after beating Pakistan in a world cup match and that was in 2011 WC. While Pakistan even after losing to India in 1992 went on to lift the cup. And also made finals the other time.

This is not an indian thing,you can ask any neutral fan. They will hardly remember result of bilateral odi series - hence the term,JAMODI.Hence ICC trying to get 'context' into ODI bilaterals.But most remember test series wins and losses.Despite its low mass popularity,among true cricket fans test series wins are always gold standard.Only thing better is cricket world cup win.Glorification of JAMODIs is infact a pakistani defence mechanism of late,sorry to say.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan lost three ODI series to India during the 2000s - twice in Pakistan and once in India.

Also, the 2005 series was nowhere near as hyped as the 2004 series, where we were outclassed in Tests and choked in ODIs.

It is pretty understandable why the 2005 series doesn't much fanfare, but the Bangalore Test ranks as one of our most famous triumphs.

 

[msb314]

Pakistan lost three ODI series to India during the 2000s - twice in Pakistan and once in India.

Also, the 2005 series was nowhere near as hyped as the 2004 series, where we were outclassed in Tests and choked in ODIs.

It is pretty understandable why the 2005 series doesn't much fanfare, but the Bangalore Test ranks as one of our most famous triumphs.

Again the 2005 series is not as well remembered since the Test series was drawn 1-1 and we did not win it outright.

 

[Hasan123]

Inzamam was a very fine leader. It was not easy being captain of Pakistan in that decade (when is it ever?) but Inzamam commanded respect from the entire dressing room and the team was never more united during the noughties than under his captaincy.

For once I agree with you. Inzi is an underrated captain.

 

[Hasan123]

OP makes a good point. Winning in India isn't something to be sniffed at. It deserves more hype. Credit to all team for winning that series.

 

[Justcrazy]

Bob Woolmer made some very innovative batting changes , that also helped Pakistan .