What's new

Why is Salman Ali Agha considered a modern T20 hero compared to Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?

Barring that supermoon innings at SR300 , though in a losing cause what exactly has Agha the captain achieved, India blanked us 3-0 in fortnight , leaving minnows aside his record will be in dire straits
:sami
 
Kianig89 said:
Barring that supermoon innings at SR300 , though in a losing cause what exactly has Agha the captain achieved, India blanked us 3-0 in fortnight , leaving minnows aside his record will be in dire straits
:sami
Click to expand...

Your horror takes like “Babar could handle McGrath, Lee and Gillespie” that no one here is buying. Go brainwash someone else.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Kianig89 said:
Barring that supermoon innings at SR300 , though in a losing cause what exactly has Agha the captain achieved, India blanked us 3-0 in fortnight , leaving minnows aside his record will be in dire straits
:sami
Click to expand...
In case of others, win or lose does not matter... LOL

Babar has 3 centuries all in winning cause but they won't matter because you know, it is BABAR.
 
Agha's numbers in T20I at different positions. Smaller sample size at No. 3 but seems patently obvious that you play him at No. 3 and keep Babar on the bench, who has a SR of 125 at 3 - even lower than his SR as opener (130).

1769535327497.png
 
@topspin

It’s funny how Agha haters like @BouncerGuy target Agha to make Babar look appropriate in T20s…

But then it’s Agha telling the Media to leave Babar alone and not criticise him :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Kaise kaise din aa gaye hain? Ab Agha bhi Babar ko T20 main defend karega @BouncerGuy
 
Rana said:
@topspin

It’s funny how Agha haters like @BouncerGuy target Agha to make Babar look appropriate in T20s…

But then it’s Agha telling the Media to leave Babar alone and not criticise him :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Kaise kaise din aa gaye hain? Ab Agha bhi Babar ko T20 main defend karega @BouncerGuy[/U
[/QUOTE]
Click to expand...

Rana said:
@topspin

It’s funny how Agha haters like @BouncerGuy target Agha to make Babar look appropriate in T20s…

But then it’s Agha telling the Media to leave Babar alone and not criticise him :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Kaise kaise din aa gaye hain? Ab Agha bhi Babar ko T20 main defend karega @BouncerGuy
Click to expand...

It’s no coincidence that all these Misbah fans are toxic and are obsessed about their hate campaigns. Major being a prime example of that. BouncerGuy, being another Misbah fan, clearly has no shame.
 
Rana said:
@topspin

It’s funny how Agha haters like @BouncerGuy target Agha to make Babar look appropriate in T20s…

But then it’s Agha telling the Media to leave Babar alone and not criticise him :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Kaise kaise din aa gaye hain? Ab Agha bhi Babar ko T20 main defend karega @BouncerGuy[/U
[/QUOTE]
Click to expand...

It’s no coincidence that all these Misbah fans are toxic and are obsessed about their hate campaigns. Major being a prime example of that. BouncerGuy, being another Misbah fan,
 
Well played Salman, more of the same going forward please. Only room for one of either him or Babar in my XI and I'm siding towards Salman.
 
Scorecard says everything about modern T20 intent.


Saim Ayub – 40 (22) – SR 181
Salman Agha – 39 (27) – SR 144
Babar Azam – 24 (20) – SR 120

Look at the difference in tempo.

Saim comes in and strikes at 180+. That immediately puts pressure back on the bowlers. Even if he doesn’t score a fifty, he changes the momentum of the innings.

Salman goes at 144 not explosive, but still above the 140 mark which is now considered the bare minimum for top-order impact in modern T20 cricket.

Then you have Babar at 120 strike rate. In today’s game, that’s below par for a top-order batter unless the pitch is extremely difficult. Twenty off twenty doesn’t hurt the opposition it actually allows them to settle.

but you will still get idiots backing babar.
 
If I were Babar, I would have just realised my time is up when Agha of all people had to reason with the media to get off my case in T20.

It made sense until guys like AB, KP etc were trying to get people off Babar’s back out of kindness but Agha doing it is a serious low point.

What a sad day for Babar and his fans.
 
7 years lol

The funny thing is, Aussies have always had a gun T20 side from the time of inception in 2007 and have remained at that top 2-3 team spot throughout. Never have they fallen off like Pakistan has.

We used to beat them in World Cup T20s and in Bilaterals too.

Last 7 years they have basically just annihilated us at any stage and with any team.

This win is very good! On Paper they are still far superior to Pakistan even with the XI they fielded today
 
Rana said:
7 years lol

The funny thing is, Aussies have always had a gun T20 side from the time of inception in 2007 and have remained at that top 2-3 team spot throughout. Never have they fallen off like Pakistan has.

We used to beat them in World Cup T20s and in Bilaterals too.

Last 7 years they have basically just annihilated us at any stage and with any team.

This win is very good! On Paper they are still far superior to Pakistan even with the XI they fielded today
Click to expand...
If babar had scored some runs then you would have been the first guy to make an excuse that there were 3 debutants in the team, he smashed babies...BLA BLA
 
heddie19 said:
They can only show their low IQ when they have nothing proving their baseless agenda based stupid argument.
Click to expand...
Look man, pick your battles. You just sound like a little fanboy.

You want to say babar is great or the best at everything.

If you say babar in 2017-2019 showed the potential of being the greatest Pakistan batsman ever, then ok, I can respect that opinion.

But honestly even praising his batting on current form - stop embarassing yourself.

And captaincy? Lol are you even serious. his captaincy record was rubbish, his presence rubbish, leadership rubbish. Add some dimension to your opinions and maybe people will take you seriously.
 
TheSultan said:
Look man, pick your battles. You just sound like a little fanboy.

You want to say babar is great or the best at everything.

If you say babar in 2017-2019 showed the potential of being the greatest Pakistan batsman ever, then ok, I can respect that opinion.

But honestly even praising his batting on current form - stop embarassing yourself.

And captaincy? Lol are you even serious. his captaincy record was rubbish, his presence rubbish, leadership rubbish. Add some dimension to your opinions and maybe people will take you seriously.
Click to expand...
These idiots are just paid shills, ignore them.

Babar is a joke and disrupting the balance of this team, it’s pretty obvious.
 
Salman Ali Agha speaking during the presentation ceremony after the 1st T20I game against Australia:

"Yes, I'll be batting at No.3 (in the future)."

"We expect to face a lot of spin, and I believe I can dominate spin during the Powerplay. That's why I moved up, and that is where I'll stay."

"We started well with the bat but couldn't finish the way we wanted. It became challenging after the first 10 overs as the ball stopped coming onto the bat, but I think we were outstanding with the ball.”

"To be honest, I felt 170 was enough. Given how we were placed after 10 overs, we probably could have scored 15 more, but I knew 170 would be plenty on this pitch because our spin bowling is outstanding."
 
BouncerGuy said:
Salman Ali Agha speaking during the presentation ceremony after the 1st T20I game against Australia:

"Yes, I'll be batting at No.3 (in the future)."

"We expect to face a lot of spin, and I believe I can dominate spin during the Powerplay. That's why I moved up, and that is where I'll stay."

"We started well with the bat but couldn't finish the way we wanted. It became challenging after the first 10 overs as the ball stopped coming onto the bat, but I think we were outstanding with the ball.”

"To be honest, I felt 170 was enough. Given how we were placed after 10 overs, we probably could have scored 15 more, but I knew 170 would be plenty on this pitch because our spin bowling is outstanding."
Click to expand...
This must come across as a dagger to your heart?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Me???? post the link please
Click to expand...

I did post a response to your post on that tennis thread and just so you know @Rana saw it as well.

We’ve seen how your comments on Salman and Babar have backfired on you, so I honestly don’t want to embarrass you any further.

We know you’re a Misbah fan.
 
topspin said:
I did post a response to your post on that tennis thread and just so you know @Rana saw it as well.

We’ve seen how your comments on Salman and Babar have backfired on you, so I honestly don’t want to embarrass you any further.

We know you’re a Misbah fan.
Click to expand...
Lol ...i don't care neither about your posts nor about misbah tuk tuk...
 
TheSultan said:
Look man, pick your battles. You just sound like a little fanboy.

You want to say babar is great or the best at everything.

If you say babar in 2017-2019 showed the potential of being the greatest Pakistan batsman ever, then ok, I can respect that opinion.

But honestly even praising his batting on current form - stop embarassing yourself.

And captaincy? Lol are you even serious. his captaincy record was rubbish, his presence rubbish, leadership rubbish. Add some dimension to your opinions and maybe people will take you seriously.
Click to expand...
Well said. This is my gripe with Babar fans too. They have an opinion about him and they are unwilling to change that opinion regardless of reality has changed over the years.

I mean, this guy was defending Babar's innings against USA by saying he had the highest score :facepalm:

I do not think there's anything you can say to such folks - they are in a different realm of delusion.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Salman Ali Agha speaking during the presentation ceremony after the 1st T20I game against Australia:

"Yes, I'll be batting at No.3 (in the future)."

"We expect to face a lot of spin, and I believe I can dominate spin during the Powerplay. That's why I moved up, and that is where I'll stay."

"We started well with the bat but couldn't finish the way we wanted. It became challenging after the first 10 overs as the ball stopped coming onto the bat, but I think we were outstanding with the ball.”

"To be honest, I felt 170 was enough. Given how we were placed after 10 overs, we probably could have scored 15 more, but I knew 170 would be plenty on this pitch because our spin bowling is outstanding."
Click to expand...
Good to see this. Agha knows that Babar at 1 down will suck all the momentum out of the innings if the openers give us a good start. With himself at 1 down, he can at least try to force Babar to get going from the first ball as will be less overs to play - however, given how dheet Babar is, I do not see him changing his style of play.

He was 4 off 9 in the last game too.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Salman Ali Agha speaking during the presentation ceremony after the 1st T20I game against Australia:

"Yes, I'll be batting at No.3 (in the future)."

"We expect to face a lot of spin, and I believe I can dominate spin during the Powerplay. That's why I moved up, and that is where I'll stay."

"We started well with the bat but couldn't finish the way we wanted. It became challenging after the first 10 overs as the ball stopped coming onto the bat, but I think we were outstanding with the ball.”

"To be honest, I felt 170 was enough. Given how we were placed after 10 overs, we probably could have scored 15 more, but I knew 170 would be plenty on this pitch because our spin bowling is outstanding."
Click to expand...
This is the attitude of a captain.

He can finally arrest the slide in the poor stats he had, miserable Sr etc.

He either sinks or swims, i like it!
 
GOSH11 said:
This is the attitude of a captain.

He can finally arrest the slide in the poor stats he had, miserable Sr etc.

He either sinks or swims, i like it!
Click to expand...
Salman has a great attitude towards the sport. His reading of the conditions and match situations is top notch, seldom you have had scenarios where he has made howlers and been called out for bad captaincy.

Credit to his captaincy is the fact that there is a common consensus now that our team is failing due to lack of skill mostly, when before the likes of Babar and Rizwan made bone-headed decisions and got criticized for that too.

He understands his limitations as a T20 player and doesn’t make stupid comments aswell.

Overall quite likeable, and happy that a competent captain is leading us in a world tournament finally.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Salman has a great attitude towards the sport. His reading of the conditions and match situations is top notch, seldom you have had scenarios where he has made howlers and been called out for bad captaincy.

Credit to his captaincy is the fact that there is a common consensus now that our team is failing due to lack of skill mostly, when before the likes of Babar and Rizwan made bone-headed decisions and got criticized for that too.

He understands his limitations as a T20 player and doesn’t make stupid comments aswell.

Overall quite likeable, and happy that a competent captain is leading us in a world tournament finally.
Click to expand...
I was alluding to the deference he gave to Babar and almost worked around him- you do what is best for the team, he is doing that now by taking charge of batting at 3- results so far are good- high SR and decent average, maxing the PP.

Should have been done sooner- If babar plays, it is at 4 or 5 and if he cannot adapt i.e. 135ish SR in middle order, we move on
 
BouncerGuy said:
Lol ...i don't care neither about your posts nor about misbah tuk tuk...
Click to expand...

As a mod, you should be more focused on building harmonious relationships with all the contributors on here. But sadly, you’re more concerned about your pro-Babar bias and Salman Agha hate filled campaigns.
 
They must keep him at No.3.

Bring in Khawaja Nafay at No.4 & move M.Nawaz to No.5.

Use Nawaz's stellar form by bringing him up the order.
 
He basically bullied Connolly and Short (both are non regular bowlers) 26 runs came against them. Faced zampa 2 balls. got out 2nd ball. Not sure he will be getting some spin freebies upfront in the world cup.
 
Babar's khoon has boiled with the hate comments, especially after BBL. he will take a badla aur opposition ko destroy kar deyga. USA and Netherlands need to stay chokas chokanna
 
TheSultan said:
Look man, pick your battles. You just sound like a little fanboy.

You want to say babar is great or the best at everything.

If you say babar in 2017-2019 showed the potential of being the greatest Pakistan batsman ever, then ok, I can respect that opinion.

But honestly even praising his batting on current form - stop embarassing yourself.

And captaincy? Lol are you even serious. his captaincy record was rubbish, his presence rubbish, leadership rubbish. Add some dimension to your opinions and maybe people will take you seriously.
Click to expand...
Which world do you live in? Tell me first.

Babar scored most runs across formats in 2019-2022. So if you want to pick a period I'd pick 2017-2023. He is not scoring mammoth runs anymore I agree his for hasn't been the same but still not as bad to not play any format.

Regarding captaincy, his win percentage across formats and 2 finals and a SF speak about his Captaincy Credentials. He is better than 80% of the captains that ever led Pakistan. Period.

Lastly, I am cricket fanboy. Love the great Younis Khan more than I love Babar.
 
Both are poor against quality spin from decent teams.

vs Kuldeep/Varun/Zampa/Santner/hasaranga/Adil Rashid/Michael bracewll

SalmAn ali Agha - 30 balls 18 runs SR 60
Babar 247 balls 270 runs. SR 109
 
heddie19 said:
Living in dictatorship means Sahibzada with same SR and worse avg will open and a parchi captain will bat at 3. *
Click to expand...
Hahah...Maybe people are not getting fed up watching the video of those 2 sixes against Bumrah.. That is literally the whole CV of farhan for these guys.
 
In just the last three innings Agha has played knocks that Babar and Rizwan couldn't dream of playing in their wildest dreams, yet their delusional fans still feel the need to act like these two belong in T20 cricket
 
Entry of Shadab and Babar has kicked new life into Agha. Unlike many Pakistan skippers of the past he has responded to pressure by going up the order and grabbing the bull by the horns.
 
topspin said:
I agree. A quick half centuries against Zimbabwe in Rawalpindi would have caused heartburn for some.
Click to expand...
And the one against SA in SA....

As much as I appreciate Agha smashing Conolly and Short and whichever other no name on our highways, I am afraid that is his ceiling and come a big tournament against an A side, he will regress to his career SR of 122 and average of 25...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Rana
Why is Fakhar Zaman so happy to job to Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan?
Replies
43
Views
774
gazza619
gazza619
BouncerGuy
  • Poll Poll
Will Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan look back at their BBL 15 participation as a huge mistake?
2 3
Replies
224
Views
4K
G0rmintAunty
G0rmintAunty
M
Why is Babar Azam not playing the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy?
Replies
41
Views
2K
Farabi
F
Cricket Warrior
Pakistan’s middle-overs collapse: From stability under Babar Azam to struggles under Salman Ali Agha
Replies
38
Views
948
BouncerGuy
BouncerGuy
M
Mohammad Rizwan prepared for South Africa series, Babar Azam didn’t – A Tale of Two Mindsets?
Replies
25
Views
962
shah9425
shah9425
Back
Top