Why is the world embracing right-wing politics?

[Bigboii]

My apologies if there is already a thread that talks about this issue I was not able to find any

Just came across an article that talks about right wing politics and how it's popularity is increasing through out the world so what could be reason for it

https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/93205/why-is-the-world-embracing-right-wing-politics/

Discuss!

 

[Pakistanian]

Where? It's only America and Britain and maybe some European countries but we don't follow their politics so have no idea who's running their countries rn. Canada has a liberal govt and they ousted a racist conservative party that reigned for almost a decade.

 

[Sidilicious]

Where? It's only America and Britain and maybe some European countries but we don't follow their politics so have no idea who's running their countries rn. Canada has a liberal govt and they ousted a racist conservative party that reigned for almost a decade.

Well not just USA and some European countries. Even Asia and South America is seeing this trend.

Following are a few countries that have had a right wing government in the last 5 years, or have had an increase of representation of right wing parties in their parliament/senate
Hungary, Austria, Italy, India, Australia, Brazil, UK, USA and Poland have all had right wing governments. Additionally countries like Germany, France, Sweden (yes, even Sweden), Netherlands have had an increase of right wing representation. Didn't Canada have more hard core right wing representation in its parliament (or whatever its called) than ever before?

Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi have always been conservative and the democratic institutions are not as well developed - even in Pakistan as democracy has always been interrupted with dictatorship. Its only been 10-12 years since Pakistan has had a continuous democracy. It takes decades to properly build democratic institutions with educated masses. So they can't really lurch any more right. Same with Communism - lack of democratic insitiutions.

People are definitely moving to the right.

 

[Sidilicious]

My theory is
1. Economic inequality - There is growing economic inequality. In Germany and UK, a school only educated blue collar worker could afford a decent life as compared to a white collared worker a few decades back. Now, this is not the case. In places like Munich, London Hamburg etc, blue collar workers are being driven away from the cities as they can't afford to live there.

Even in growing economies like India, a well to do person may have chauffeur and working help, and the kids of these helps would not be able to afford the right education and be stuck in the same job as their parents. In fact there is a growing disparity between the upper classes and middle classes. The upper classes have more power than ever before and they seem to be getting away with a lot of things. Since the upper classes are seen as more socially open (secular etc), middle and lower classes oppose that.

2. Social Media - Lies can easily be spread by social media. On WhatsApp I have seen nonsense and made up stories that can be debunked with a bit of logic. But because social media does not face up to scrutiny, its easy to pass off these lies.

3. Opening of traditional media - Due to de regulation and commercialisation of media, news can now be targeted towards a particular audience. There are so many channels to choose that people can listen to what they want to hear, and not the facts. Leads to further lies and peoples information is not questioned.

4. The other (or racism) - this is actually the smallest factor IMHO. When they see the others doing well who are of different colour, and see themselves struggling, its obvious they they start hating the other person. This is especially true for the caucasian nations. They don't see the multitude of others of colour who are also struggling.

In other nations, its based on religious values - Brazil etc.

So, yeah we are moving to the right. But, its a phase and will pass away in the next decade.

Whats the next phase? The world will move to a extremely left leaning model.

 

[Pakistanian]

Well not just USA and some European countries. Even Asia and South America is seeing this trend.

Following are a few countries that have had a right wing government in the last 5 years, or have had an increase of representation of right wing parties in their parliament/senate
Hungary, Austria, Italy, India, Australia, Brazil, UK, USA and Poland have all had right wing governments. Additionally countries like Germany, France, Sweden (yes, even Sweden), Netherlands have had an increase of right wing representation. Didn't Canada have more hard core right wing representation in its parliament (or whatever its called) than ever before?

Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi have always been conservative and the democratic institutions are not as well developed - even in Pakistan as democracy has always been interrupted with dictatorship. Its only been 10-12 years since Pakistan has had a continuous democracy. It takes decades to properly build democratic institutions with educated masses. So they can't really lurch any more right. Same with Communism - lack of democratic insitiutions.

People are definitely moving to the right.

Lol trust an Indian to push his narrative. Of the countries you named, Austria, Poland and Hungary were communist dictatorships for most of modern history until only the early 90s so putting them in the list of the UK and USA is hilarious and shows your ignorance, Pakistan has had longer periods of democracy than those three countries. Brazil itself has had many coups and even had a military dictatorship that lasted two decades. What a lot of Indians don't seem to realize is that for most of the 20th century coups and military regimes were norm for most Asian, African, East Euro and Latin American countries, in fact a democracy was an exception rather than the norm so trying to push the false narrative that Pakistan doesn't have developed "institutions" is simply not true and dishonest also it seems kinda stupid cause I don't ever hear "institution building" from political scientist in America, it's always some so called academic from the subcontinent (usually india).

I think you don't want to accept the fact Pakistan has moved more to the left than the right unlike a lot of countries especially India which is currently ruled by a Hindu nationalist tyrant that hates minorities especially Muslims as opposed to Pakistan a country that elected a well educated cosmopolitan man such as Imran Khan who has focused on nation building and doesn't use hate speech against religious minorities. I think even Saudi under MBS and other Gulf nations are more liberal than india especially if you take into the account the millions of indians begging to work there even for menial jobs. Also it's funny how you compared a democracy to Pakistan to a monarchy like Saudi Arabia when there are over 50 other Muslims with Islam as a state religion

 

[Bigboii]

Racism argument for right wing politics I feel like is just oversimplifying the situation people who voted for Obama also voted for Trump in the next election so most of these voters are definitely not racist

I feel like income inequality could be a big reason because unemployed factory workers voted for Trump hoping he could bring the jobs back but didn't know this situation was also happening in Europe because in States liberals portray Europe as heaven where everyone sings kum-ba-ya and state takes care of everything else (because of this whenever I say anything good about Europe my republican friends would say "only bums live in Europe who likes to be carried for the rest of thier lives")

I think nationalism is also big reason cause erdogan,modi and Imran are all big nationalists

 

[Bigboii]

Lol trust an Indian to push his narrative. Of the countries you named, Austria, Poland and Hungary were communist dictatorships for most of modern history until only the early 90s so putting them in the list of the UK and USA is hilarious and shows your ignorance, Pakistan has had longer periods of democracy than those three countries. Brazil itself has had many coups and even had a military dictatorship that lasted two decades. What a lot of Indians don't seem to realize is that for most of the 20th century coups and military regimes were norm for most Asian, African, East Euro and Latin American countries, in fact a democracy was an exception rather than the norm so trying to push the false narrative that Pakistan doesn't have developed "institutions" is simply not true and dishonest also it seems kinda stupid cause I don't ever hear "institution building" from political scientist in America, it's always some so called academic from the subcontinent (usually india).

I think you don't want to accept the fact Pakistan has moved more to the left than the right unlike a lot of countries especially India which is currently ruled by a Hindu nationalist tyrant that hates minorities especially Muslims as opposed to Pakistan a country that elected a well educated cosmopolitan man such as Imran Khan who has focused on nation building and doesn't use hate speech against religious minorities. I think even Saudi under MBS and other Gulf nations are more liberal than india especially if you take into the account the millions of indians begging to work there even for menial jobs. Also it's funny how you compared a democracy to Pakistan to a monarchy like Saudi Arabia when there are over 50 other Muslims with Islam as a state religion

Pak is not moving left both pmln and pti are right wing parties only party in Pak who is left wing is ppp
Even in the article he is listed with other right wing leaders and that's a Pakistani newspaper
Moving to right is not a bad thing many government on left have done crazy stuff (Soviet Union,venezvala) and many on right have done crazy stuff so there is no need to get offended it's a global shift that's happening it's not just in pak

 

[Pakistanian]

Pak is not moving left both pmln and pti are right wing parties only party in Pak who is left wing is ppp
Even in the article he is listed with other right wing leaders and that's a Pakistani newspaper
Moving to right is not a bad thing many government on left have done crazy stuff (Soviet Union,venezvala) and many on right have done crazy stuff so there is no need to get offended it's a global shift that's happening it's not just in pak

Right wing politics means being against the idea of a welfare state and immigration whereas Imran Khan is a proponent of both of those ideas. And no I don't believe a racist party or a party that is rooted in pronvicialism/ethnic nationalism can be considered Pakistan's only "left wing" party lol, most Pakistani "liberals" are barely liberals under the universally accepted definition of it.

 

[Bigboii]

Right wing politics means being against the idea of a welfare state and immigration whereas Imran Khan is a proponent of both of those ideas. And no I don't believe a racist party or a party that is rooted in pronvicialism/ethnic nationalism can be considered Pakistan's only "left wing" party lol, most Pakistani "liberals" are barely liberals under the universally accepted definition of it.

I think Pak politics is a different beast where the lines between right and left are very blurred you are kinda right about ppp and I think people may consider pti right wing because of IK pro Taliban stance and his party's relationship with hardline mullahs but his welfare stance is indeed very left so I think he could be in center but as I said Pak political ideological lines are very blurred

 

[James]

The US, Britain, India, Italy and Brazil all have right-wing governments and are 5 of the 10 richest countries in the world.

The US in particular holds massive influence in global affairs. The US, Britain and India all have top-rated militaries.

There are further examples of economically smaller but still significant countries that have right-wing governments: Austria, Hungary and Poland for example.

Right-wing, populist and conservative political parties have also been surging in popularity around the world. Even when not governing they are often the 2nd or 3rd largest party.

Interesting times ahead.

 

[Robert]

My theory is
1. Economic inequality - There is growing economic inequality. In Germany and UK, a school only educated blue collar worker could afford a decent life as compared to a white collared worker a few decades back. Now, this is not the case. In places like Munich, London Hamburg etc, blue collar workers are being driven away from the cities as they can't afford to live there.

Even in growing economies like India, a well to do person may have chauffeur and working help, and the kids of these helps would not be able to afford the right education and be stuck in the same job as their parents. In fact there is a growing disparity between the upper classes and middle classes. The upper classes have more power than ever before and they seem to be getting away with a lot of things. Since the upper classes are seen as more socially open (secular etc), middle and lower classes oppose that.

2. Social Media - Lies can easily be spread by social media. On WhatsApp I have seen nonsense and made up stories that can be debunked with a bit of logic. But because social media does not face up to scrutiny, its easy to pass off these lies.

3. Opening of traditional media - Due to de regulation and commercialisation of media, news can now be targeted towards a particular audience. There are so many channels to choose that people can listen to what they want to hear, and not the facts. Leads to further lies and peoples information is not questioned.

4. The other (or racism) - this is actually the smallest factor IMHO. When they see the others doing well who are of different colour, and see themselves struggling, its obvious they they start hating the other person. This is especially true for the caucasian nations. They don't see the multitude of others of colour who are also struggling.

In other nations, its based on religious values - Brazil etc.

So, yeah we are moving to the right. But, its a phase and will pass away in the next decade.

Whats the next phase? The world will move to a extremely left leaning model.

This.

Except the last line, I think it would take a world government for that, in the face of environmental catastrophe.

 

[CricketCartoons]

It is the evil of globalization which has caused the rise of right wing politics. Globalization has undermined nations sovereignty in the name of economy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well not just USA and some European countries. Even Asia and South America is seeing this trend.

Following are a few countries that have had a right wing government in the last 5 years, or have had an increase of representation of right wing parties in their parliament/senate
Hungary, Austria, Italy, India, Australia, Brazil, UK, USA and Poland have all had right wing governments. Additionally countries like Germany, France, Sweden (yes, even Sweden), Netherlands have had an increase of right wing representation. Didn't Canada have more hard core right wing representation in its parliament (or whatever its called) than ever before?

Islamic countries like Pakistan and Saudi have always been conservative and the democratic institutions are not as well developed - even in Pakistan as democracy has always been interrupted with dictatorship. Its only been 10-12 years since Pakistan has had a continuous democracy. It takes decades to properly build democratic institutions with educated masses. So they can't really lurch any more right. Same with Communism - lack of democratic insitiutions.

People are definitely moving to the right.

You are right, Islamic countries are by nature conservative, but not sure why you are mentioning those two countries - unless you feel that perhaps the rest of the world admires their Islamic priniciples so higly they are trying to emulate them.

 

[Sidilicious]

You are right, Islamic countries are by nature conservative, but not sure why you are mentioning those two countries - unless you feel that perhaps the rest of the world admires their Islamic priniciples so higly they are trying to emulate them.

Its because I feel that Islamic nations such as Saudi and somewhat conservative nations such as Pakistan are becoming more liberal and are bucking the trend of right wing.

 

[Sidilicious]

Lol trust an Indian to push his narrative. Of the countries you named, Austria, Poland and Hungary were communist dictatorships for most of modern history until only the early 90s so putting them in the list of the UK and USA is hilarious and shows your ignorance, Pakistan has had longer periods of democracy than those three countries. Brazil itself has had many coups and even had a military dictatorship that lasted two decades. What a lot of Indians don't seem to realize is that for most of the 20th century coups and military regimes were norm for most Asian, African, East Euro and Latin American countries, in fact a democracy was an exception rather than the norm so trying to push the false narrative that Pakistan doesn't have developed "institutions" is simply not true and dishonest also it seems kinda stupid cause I don't ever hear "institution building" from political scientist in America, it's always some so called academic from the subcontinent (usually india).

I think you don't want to accept the fact Pakistan has moved more to the left than the right unlike a lot of countries especially India which is currently ruled by a Hindu nationalist tyrant that hates minorities especially Muslims as opposed to Pakistan a country that elected a well educated cosmopolitan man such as Imran Khan who has focused on nation building and doesn't use hate speech against religious minorities. I think even Saudi under MBS and other Gulf nations are more liberal than india especially if you take into the account the millions of indians begging to work there even for menial jobs. Also it's funny how you compared a democracy to Pakistan to a monarchy like Saudi Arabia when there are over 50 other Muslims with Islam as a state religion.

Firstly, Austria was never communist. Trust an American to know nothing about the world.

Secondly, Hungary and Poland had significant advances in economy, especially after joining the EU. They have been free of communism for 3 decades, which is sufficient to build a lot of democratic institutions. However, as you will see from my other post it is difference the growing city rich and the rural poor of Hungary and Poland that is leading this these issues.

Thirdly, Pakistan does not have a strong democratic institution, otherwise the army chief would not be the strongest person in the nation. If you dont agree, you are obviously in denial. It wasn't very long back that people were killing each other in the name of religion. So, no Pakistan is still conservative, and more right than India. Just because it is going in the right direction and off late India isn't, does not mean it is more liberal than India.

 

[troodon]

Far Left liberals lead to Far Right nutters.

Politics has its own way of balancing out things just like nature.

 

[dildilpak]

Far Left liberals lead to Far Right nutters.

Politics has its own way of balancing out things just like nature.

Exactly, i blame the far left especially the leftist dominated media in pushing things so far along that the middle class in rural/ semi-urban areas started feeling isolated, unheard & unappreciated. The socially conservative were openly branded & derided as racists when they tried to express their views on immigration, civil rights, religion etc - guess what? - the ‘deplorables’ had the majority numbers to strike right back, all they needed was one central figure to rally around like Trump, Johnson, Modi, Erdogan or Orban.

Balancing the minority rights with the majority interests is a difficult proposition, but the leftist governments who were previously in position of power failed to take people along in their quest for ideological purity & thats why more & more are turning right.

 

[ManFan]

Because insanity in groups is common, “the mob mentality”.

Human beings have always had the “us versus them” mindset and the master politicians play on this psychology.

All you have to do to convince a group of people to play into your hands is...

1) There are a group of outsiders threatening and attempting to destroy your homogeny.

2) You must act upon this impulse and those who refuse to do so are not part of your group.

 

[Stewie]

It’s the damn Russians..

Right wingers across the world have taken the queue from their interference of IS politics and weaponized social media. Blue collared workers of the civilized world, rather than realizing that higher education is now becoming essential to have a decent life style, blame all their economic problems on immigrants from poorer countries. Hence Brexit, Trump in the WH, etc.

In India, the right wingers used the same philosophy to come into power..

This trend isn’t going anywhere.. Modi won re-election and so will trump

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Its because I feel that Islamic nations such as Saudi and somewhat conservative nations such as Pakistan are becoming more liberal and are bucking the trend of right wing.

Conservative, liberal, right wing, left wing are all terms we have probably developed in the UK. If you are using them as a UK citizen fair enough, othwerwise perhaps you should tell us your own Indian interpretation of it.

 

[Bigboii]

It’s the damn Russians..

Right wingers across the world have taken the queue from their interference of IS politics and weaponized social media. Blue collared workers of the civilized world, rather than realizing that higher education is now becoming essential to have a decent life style, blame all their economic problems on immigrants from poorer countries. Hence Brexit, Trump in the WH, etc.

In India, the right wingers used the same philosophy to come into power..

This trend isn’t going anywhere.. Modi won re-election and so will trump

Pursuing higher education is easier said than done especially for people in rural areas here in States most of tham have never went to college in 100s of years , colledge cost a lot of money even if you ignore tuition I have personally met quite a few people who work 30-40 hours and with that much working hours it's hard to get a good degree, there is also no legacy of people that they know who have been to college and they feel out of place and I will be brutally honest almost all of the blue collar or rural farming type people or students I have met are not racist and I didn't get that vibe but I almost always felt racism from rich wall street type guys so I feel they just get lots of flack for no reason but income inequality I feel like is the biggest reason for right wing politics on the high right know and if people don't see the results they may move far left.

 

[Bigboii]

Conservative, liberal, right wing, left wing are all terms we have probably developed in the UK. If you are using them as a UK citizen fair enough, othwerwise perhaps you should tell us your own Indian interpretation of it.

Nah terms every where in the world stays the same imo it's just that interpretation could be different because some places are more conservative than others so thier liberals may not be liberals in western society but in thier society thier views are liberal so that's why every social scientist will call tham liberals even though they wouldn't be called liberals in Europe, we can't look everywhere in the world with the western glasses

 

[Danyaalr01]

Mainly Europe. USA has a right wing government at the moment, but Bernie is gaining popularity very fast, I predict he'll win. Asia and Middle East have always been very conservative. Africa is just in a state of anarchy. South American countries are also generally conservative due to religion.

NZ currently has a liberal leftwing government. Australia is currently on the right, but these 2 countries are always shifting and have never have far right governments like Trump's America.

 

[Bigboii]

Mainly Europe. USA has a right wing government at the moment, but Bernie is gaining popularity very fast, I predict he'll win. Asia and Middle East have always been very conservative. Africa is just in a state of anarchy. South American countries are also generally conservative due to religion.

NZ currently has a liberal leftwing government. Australia is currently on the right, but these 2 countries are always shifting and have never have far right governments like Trump's America.

I feel like there is widening political devide after far right Trump a far left candidate like Bernie shouldn't even have a chance but the crazy thing is he actually has a chance Its pretty crazy whatever is going on

 

[Danyaalr01]

I feel like there is widening political devide after far right Trump a far left candidate like Bernie shouldn't even have a chance but the crazy thing is he actually has a chance �� Its pretty crazy whatever is going on

If Bernie had won the nomination in 2016 he would have won the election. The Democrat party admitted that Bernie won the nomination in 2016, but was robbed off of it and they awarded it to Clinton. Many people were put off by Clinton and either didn't vote, or voted for Trump. Democrats have only themselves to blaim for 2016.

 

[Pakistanian]

Mainly Europe. USA has a right wing government at the moment, but Bernie is gaining popularity very fast, I predict he'll win. Asia and Middle East have always been very conservative. Africa is just in a state of anarchy. South American countries are also generally conservative due to religion.

NZ currently has a liberal leftwing government. Australia is currently on the right, but these 2 countries are always shifting and have never have far right governments like Trump's America.

Yes, and people forget that the Democrats have control of the house. In the 2018 midterm elections the left won not the right let alone far right. AOC, Tlaib, Omar, were all products of that election and Beto came close to winning in an extremely conservative/reliably republican state. People act like 2018 didn't happen, that's why you can't compare the UK to the US because the UK has had a conservative plurality since 2010 and more recently a majority.

 

[sweep_shot]

Definition of right wing varies from country to country.

In a Muslim country, right wing is generally centered around Islamic laws and values (for example - Saudi Arabia, Iraq etc.). In a secular/western country, right wing means completely different.

Europe is embracing right wing primarily because of the refugee crisis. Also, it is the new fad among many white people.

 

[JaDed]

Definition of right wing varies from country to country.

In a Muslim country, right wing is generally centered around Islamic laws and values (for example - Saudi Arabia, Iraq etc.). In a secular/western country, right wing means completely different.

Europe is embracing right wing primarily because of the refugee crisis. Also, it is the new fad among many white people.

So in a Muslim country its a righteous right wing whereas in a secular country its a wrong and hateful one?

 

[sweep_shot]

So in a Muslim country its a righteous right wing whereas in a secular country its a wrong and hateful one?

You can say that.

It is because western conservatism is based on man-made secular laws. Man-made laws are always faulty.

Religious conservatism is superior and benevolent.

 

[JaDed]

You can say that.

It is because western conservatism is based on man-made secular laws. Man-made laws are always faulty.

Religious conservatism is superior and benevolent.

Yeah that’s why people migrate from those superior laws to man made laws.
Guess they are unable to take pure laws and prefer faulty ones.

I’m starting to doubt if you are trolling now, all this time i assumed these are your real views :/

 

[sweep_shot]

Yeah that’s why people migrate from those superior laws to man made laws.
Guess they are unable to take pure laws and prefer faulty ones.

I’m starting to doubt if you are trolling now, all this time i assumed these are your real views :/

These are my real views.

Desi countries and other poor countries (African nations, South American nations etc.) don't have superior laws as they try to copy west. If they implement religious laws correctly, they can do much better.

 

[JaDed]

These are my real views.

Desi countries and other poor countries (African nations, South American nations etc.) don't have superior laws as they try to copy west. If they implement religious laws correctly, they can do much better.

What religious laws? Are you saying Islamic laws? Christian laws , Jewish ones, Hindu ones, Buddhist ones? Or maybe everywhere wrt population they should decide coz every religion has its own laws.

 

[sweep_shot]

What religious laws? Are you saying Islamic laws? Christian laws , Jewish ones, Hindu ones, Buddhist ones? Or maybe everywhere wrt population they should decide coz every religion has its own laws.

As a Muslim, I obviously support Islamic laws. But, I also think that Christian laws and Jewish laws aren't worse than secular laws. I can't comment on Hinduism as I don't know much about it.

Biggest problem with secularism is the fact it removes God completely. Secularism promotes atheism and agnosticism which in turn lowers moral values and encourages degeneracy.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Biggest problem with secularism is the fact it removes God completely. Secularism promotes atheism and agnosticism which in turn lowers moral values and encourages degeneracy.

True. Secularism is the last refuge of the morally corrupt and degenerates.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

US: Trump
UK: Boris
Brazil: Bolsonaro
India: Modi
Myanmar: Aung San Suu Kyi
Italy: Conte
Philippines: Duterte
Turkey: Erdogan
Israel: Netanyahu
Hungary: Orban
Nicaragua: Ortega
Russia: Putin
Sri Lanka: Rajapaksa
Serbia: Vučić
Poland: Widodo


The list of right-wing populist, authoritarians keeps getting bigger and bigger.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

US: Trump
UK: Boris
Brazil: Bolsonaro
India: Modi
Myanmar: Aung San Suu Kyi
Italy: Conte
Philippines: Duterte
Turkey: Erdogan
Israel: Netanyahu
Hungary: Orban
Nicaragua: Ortega
Russia: Putin
Sri Lanka: Rajapaksa
Serbia: Vučić
Poland: Widodo


The list of right-wing populist, authoritarians keeps getting bigger and bigger.

*Indonesia: Widodo
Poland: Duda

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

I never expected India will turn right. Each passing day i see more unity among hindus which i never saw from childhood.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I never expected India will turn right. Each passing day i see more unity among hindus which i never saw from childhood.

In what way are you seeing these changes? What does more unity among Hindus look like, and why is it happening now when previously it wasn't there?

 

[Ronaldo7]

In what way are you seeing these changes? What does more unity among Hindus look like, and why is it happening now when previously it wasn't there?

Unity of Hindus = Hatred towards Muslims

 

[chacha kashmiri]

The world's always been right wing
Socialism itself is right wing if you look at Havana and the castros

Liberalism and secularism are only for places that haven't been conquered by the west
As soon as they become mandates they become right wing

The current hindu rule of India is just a continuation of the maratha empire
Asia as a whole has missed the right wing anti imperialist anti Western self taught rhetoric of Japanese governments of old
This has been placed by a meek Chinese rule of Asia which has been heavily focused on factories and subjugation of its citizens under rule of confucius

The Tokyo Olympics will be interesting to see

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The world's always been right wing
Socialism itself is right wing if you look at Havana and the castros

Liberalism and secularism are only for places that haven't been conquered by the west
As soon as they become mandates they become right wing

The current hindu rule of India is just a continuation of the maratha empire
Asia as a whole has missed the right wing anti imperialist anti Western self taught rhetoric of Japanese governments of old
This has been placed by a meek Chinese rule of Asia which has been heavily focused on factories and subjugation of its citizens under rule of confucius

The Tokyo Olympics will be interesting to see

I doubt the Tokyo Olympics will be any different to the rest.

 

[sjahmed23]

Rise of automation + China. Low skill jobs are slowly fading and that is causing anxiety in alot of places where middle class is struggling and losing faith in the system.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

These things are phasic. Right now the majority of the world is going through a right wing populist phase, which may last for a generation or even longer, depending on economic conditions.

Right wing parties will ultimately bring negative impacts to the countries they lead and the world because by its nature conservatism does not build, it divides, its looks for scapegoats. Thats not to say that unfettered liberalism has all the answers, but Through a combination of sowing disccord, reliance on conspiracy theories, jingoiism, intellectual bankruptcy, and messianic psychosis they will not only burn their countries down, but the world along with it.

The next 25-50 years may very well be the beginning of the end of the human race as we know it, and certainly of civilization. Climate change will render vast swaths of our planet unlivable, and with the ensuing migration of people, there will be conflict, possibly nuclear war.

Humanity is in for some tough times, and as always, it will be the evil deeds of our own hands.

 

[Realromeo]

Because the "Left" has gone so far towards the left that it is ridiculous.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Because the "Left" has gone so far towards the left that it is ridiculous.

How So?

 

[CricketCartoons]

These things are phasic. Right now the majority of the world is going through a right wing populist phase, which may last for a generation or even longer, depending on economic conditions.

Right wing parties will ultimately bring negative impacts to the countries they lead and the world because by its nature conservatism does not build, it divides, its looks for scapegoats. Thats not to say that unfettered liberalism has all the answers, but Through a combination of sowing disccord, reliance on conspiracy theories, jingoiism, intellectual bankruptcy, and messianic psychosis they will not only burn their countries down, but the world along with it.

The next 25-50 years may very well be the beginning of the end of the human race as we know it, and certainly of civilization. Climate change will render vast swaths of our planet unlivable, and with the ensuing migration of people, there will be conflict, possibly nuclear war.

Humanity is in for some tough times, and as always, it will be the evil deeds of our own hands.

This is not a phase anymore. Humans are moving back to their default behaviour. The liberal experiment has failed.

 

[andy0204]

This is not a phase anymore. Humans are moving back to their default behaviour. The liberal experiment has failed.

That is what you believe,Iam not saying that leftist and rightist are not good but going at extreme level which is dangerous.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That is what you believe,Iam not saying that leftist and rightist are not good but going at extreme level which is dangerous.

I think order in a society is more important that freedom of expression or human rights. Freedom of expression should be allowed, and human rights be respected only and as long as you follow the order of the society.

 

[AdamM97]

Because liberalism is in a crisis. Liberal leaders around the world are either fools or opportunists. Their entire politics revolve around identity politics and people are getting sick of it.
Liberalism will make a comeback though like they did post-WWII and post-Cold war. Liberalism have gone through such crisis before, they’ll be alright.

 

[AdamM97]

I think order in a society is more important that freedom of expression or human rights. Freedom of expression should be allowed, and human rights be respected only and as long as you follow the order of the society.

Order vs free will. It’s giving me Assassins Creed flashbacks lol.

Too much order leads to tyranny and too much free will leads to chaos and disorder.

 

[The Viper]

Austrian police seize weapons intended for German far right

The Austrian police have seized a huge cache of automatic weapons, explosives and hand grenades intended to arm far-right “extremist” groups in Germany.

Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said on Saturday five men aged 21 to 53 with links to neo-Nazi groups were arrested following a series of house searches.

“We have struck a massive blow against the right-wing extremist scene in Austria and organised crime, and how they are connected,” Nehammer told a news conference in the capital, Vienna.

The weapons were to be used to “establish a far-right network” in Germany with the goal of attacking society, democracy and basic freedoms, Nehammer said.

The raids were carried out as part of an investigation initially into a drug-related crime, but officers also uncovered links between far-right groups and organised crime, the minister said.

The raids led to the seizure of 25 semiautomatic and fully automatic weapons, believed to have been bought with the proceeds of drug trafficking, said Michael Mimra from the state criminal police office in Vienna.

The haul included Uzi sub-machine guns, AK-47 assault rifles, Scorpion machineguns and ammunition, Mimra said.

More weapons and ammunition were seized on Thursday, while more than 100,000 rounds of ammunition were found in a warehouse in Lower Austria.

Overall, 76 automatic and semiautomatic weapons were recovered, along with 14 handguns and ammunition and six hand grenades, as well as detonators and explosives. Some had been packed for transport.

Investigations in Germany meanwhile had led to two arrests and the seizure of a large quantity of drugs, Mimra said.

Investigators are now trying to establish the origin of the weapons, with forensic examinations under way to see if they have been used in crimes.

“The investigation has only just begun,” Mimra said. “It will last a while.”

In October, Austrian investigators began to track drug deliveries from Germany and discovered that the profits were being used to buy arms.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...or-german-far-right?__twitter_impression=true

 

[Stewie]

Order vs free will. It’s giving me Assassins Creed flashbacks lol.

Too much order leads to tyranny and too much free will leads to chaos and disorder.

Because liberalism is in a crisis. Liberal leaders around the world are either fools or opportunists. Their entire politics revolve around identity politics and people are getting sick of it.
Liberalism will make a comeback though like they did post-WWII and post-Cold war. Liberalism have gone through such crisis before, they’ll be alright.

If you guys somehow think one is immensely different from the other in terms of overall consequences, you are fools.

Left and right are both part of the same coin. No matter who wins, the results have a very small difference in its impact on average Joe.

They work hand in hand to dupe people. They take turns. I mean look at pakistan.. and US.

In the 90s it was like both PPP and PML were tag teaming each other to wrestle the Pakistanis to the ground. They both looted the country Willy nilly.

Let’s look at US Presidents

CaRter (left)
Reagan (right)
Bush - lasted four years (right)
Clinton- (left)
Bush Jr - (right)
Obama - (left)
Trump (right)

Open your eyes. Think!
Do things change a lot? Have they changed a lot?
Where have they changed? Look hard. Which is the upcoming power? China..is there a right or a left there? NO.. but they are the ones who are leaving everyone behind and catching up with the US.
I don’t mean to say that the world should be like China. This was just to demonstrate that left or right really are not much different. They don’t do anything different. At best they help maintain the status quo.

 

[AdamM97]

If you guys somehow think one is immensely different from the other in terms of overall consequences, you are fools.

Left and right are both part of the same coin. No matter who wins, the results have a very small difference in its impact on average Joe.

They work hand in hand to dupe people. They take turns. I mean look at pakistan.. and US.

In the 90s it was like both PPP and PML were tag teaming each other to wrestle the Pakistanis to the ground. They both looted the country Willy nilly.

Let’s look at US Presidents

CaRter (left)
Reagan (right)
Bush - lasted four years (right)
Clinton- (left)
Bush Jr - (right)
Obama - (left)
Trump (right)

Open your eyes. Think!
Do things change a lot? Have they changed a lot?
Where have they changed? Look hard. Which is the upcoming power? China..is there a right or a left there? NO.. but they are the ones who are leaving everyone behind and catching up with the US.
I don’t mean to say that the world should be like China. This was just to demonstrate that left or right really are not much different. They don’t do anything different. At best they help maintain the status quo.

Clintons and Biden are not leftists though. They're centrists. The Democrats shifted to the center during the Clinton era in the US while the "New" Labour in the UK also shifted to the center during the Blair era.

I think liberals and conservatives in western countries are pretty similar in terms of how they rule once they come to power though but I'm not sure you could make the same argument for the left v right.

 

[James]

<b>The Express Tribune — Dictatorship only solution to Pakistan’s woes, says Hassan Nisar</b>

<I>Firebrand analyst says ‘firing squad’ should execute those who demand democracy in the country</I>

Firebrand political commentator and columnist Hassan Nisar on Monday came under fire after he called for imposing an authoritarian rule in the country for at least 15 years, which he said was the only solution to the country’s chronic issues.

“Those who demand democracy [should be executed] by firing squad and their families should be made to pay for the bullets,” he said while speaking to a local TV channel.

The renowned columnist went on to say that only a “tyrant ruler” can fix the system of the country “from primary education to population management”.

Apparently referring to scions of Bhutto and Sharif families, Nisar angrily said, “Are these children going to take over the country and run it?”

When asked if he was proposing to impose dictatorship in the country, Nissar responded that, “there is no other option other than [dictatorship] or the destruction will cross all limits”.

The show host then asked the firebrand analyst whether Prime Minister Imran Khan be given another five years to rule as he opposes dictatorship and advocates democracy. “I believe that he [PM Imran] too should be given another five years which is our moral duty,” he responded.

However, his controversial views triggered a backlash, with many calling to ban him from appearing in TV shows “for spreading fascism”.

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[Bhaijaan]

Let’s go Germany!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893741884201111698