Why so much hate for Hashim Amla?

[TM Riddle]

Granted he isn't charismatic or a pressure player like Virat Kohli and time and again has failed to raise his game up when it mattered but the guy is still bloody good when it comes to batting.Has an extremely good test record and is a decent LOI batsman as well as his record indicates.
Why so much dislike then? After every failure of his you would see countless threads bumped by some posters to score some cheap points and settle personal rivalries.It was funny before but honestly comes off quite annoying now.
And add to that guy is an extremely likable person on and off field and never heard him getting into any kind of controversy before.
I understand a few posters like to overrate him a lot but they are mainly in minority and aren't to be taken seriously.
Also what I find really disappointing is the attitude of many Indian posters here.The guy has an Indian heritage yet barring a few you will rarely see anyone of those praising him.And mind you this is the same community who gets excited every time Bobby Jindal is mentioned in media (who probably don't give a toss about India or subcontinent in general) and takes pride over the fact that American Indians are so wealthy and successful.
Shameful stuff really.

 

[captain crook]

I've been here for some time and I see the hate comes from a certain country. And it has nothing to do with his cricket. Sad but true. However, it also needs to be said that some people also love him for non-cricketing reasons. Works both ways.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Actually Amla has more love here than hate. It is quiet natural to pick a player who fail in crunch matches. No player is spared. Tendulkar or Kohli or anybody for that matter.

 

[ExpressPacer]

He goes missing whenever it matters and scores heavily against weak attacks in meaningless bilaterals.

 

[TM Riddle]

He goes missing whenever it matters and scores heavily against weak attacks in meaningless bilaterals.

He isn't the first one to do so.Yet you will never see such threads created for other cricketers.

 

[vandokkum]

Why would anyone hate Amla? He is a nice guy. But his fans go OTT with praise for him when he scores 1000 runs in meaningless bilaterals and flops miserably when it really matters.

 

[Dead Ball]

Excellent test batsman.

Its the same reason why Tendulkar gets so much hate, his fan base.

 

[cricketfanfirst]

Great player and very humble and likeable person.
I just hope he has one impactful innings in a ICC tournament and has SA cross the finishing line.
He looked very nervous today and found fielders which put additional pressure.
Good guys should not come last, hope he does win ICC cup before he retires.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

He is the most complete test batsman after Sanga. 10K runs and he will be an ATG in tests.

Odis he goes missing in big matches.

Personally wise he is very humble and a role model for players and some players and pundits have endorsed this. But if you like style, show then Amla is opposite.

Hated because of his shortcomings in odis and comparison with kohli.. Sometimes get unnecessary hate tbh!

 

[Hasan123]

He's not hated. He's critizced for not scoring in big icc games. Don't confuse criticism with hate.

 

[ManFan]

He is not well liked because he dominates oppositions for three years and seems unstoppable yet when the time to shine comes, he fails. It's like Messi who despite winning everything for three years somehow cannot get over the line during the fourth.

 

[Abdullah719]

Keep the discussion limited to cricketing matters.

 

[JaDed]

He is a very good player and his hatred is only coz his fans its similar to what Sachin and Kohli get.Part of sport.

 

[Dead Ball]

I think this is the second time i have read someone comparing Amla with Messi and i can't even begin to explain how bad the comparison is.

Well, Messi's greatest ever match was in a high profile El Clasico in the 2010/11 Champions League Semi Final.

Amla plays for a great South African side, Messi plays for an Argentinian team that can't even win against Venezuela without him.

No comparison.

 

[TahirFan]

Initially he was hated so much by white South Africans because they considered him a quota player who was chosen simply because of the colour of his skin.

Amla has silenced them with his performance

 

[Last Monetarist]

It's pretty weird and can get a bit annoying. Personally all our bile should be reserved for the true gutless fraud in that team who ran away from test cricket.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Initially he was hated so much by white South Africans because they considered him a quota player who was chosen simply because of the colour of his skin.

Amla has silenced them with his performance

Because initially he was very average player , later transformed into Atg with hard work. You have to see his debut against India to understand why he was called quota player.

 

[ManFan]

The comparison can be evident in the fact that both win against opposition yet do not win a tournament.

 

[ManFan]

I'll go a step further in sport comparisons. It's like when the GSW went 73-9 and had the best regular season record in NBA history yet lost the Finals. Or when the NE Patriots went 17-0 only to lost the Super Bowl to the NY Giants. Sports are based on trophies.

 

[TahirFan]

Because initially he was very average player , later transformed into Atg with hard work. You have to see his debut against India to understand why he was called quota player.

He was selected after he was the top performer in our domestic competition.

Kallis also struggled at the start of his international career. White South African racists did not hate Kallis

 

[vandokkum]

I think this is the second time i have read someone comparing Amla with Messi and i can't even begin to explain how bad the comparison is.

Well, Messi's greatest ever match was in a high profile El Clasico in the 2010/11 Champions League Semi Final.

Amla plays for a great South African side, Messi plays for an Argentinian team that can't even win against Venezuela without him.

No comparison.

Whoever compared Messi with Amla has genuinely no clue what they are talking about.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

Whoever compared Messi with Amla has genuinely no clue what they are talking about.

That's [MENTION=142991]TahirFan[/MENTION]

 

[Mamoon]

The comparison can be evident in the fact that both win against opposition yet do not win a tournament.

A comparison between football and cricket cannot be established because cricket does not have an equivalent of the Champions League, which is the highest standard of football played in the world today. Winning for your country is special, but the World Cup in football today is not what it was before.

One can say that the Champions League is to international football what Kerry Packer's WSC was to international cricket. The bilateral ODI series equivalent of football would be the international friendlies in football. Even league football is of much higher status than bilateral ODI cricket.

In cricket, you cannot become a legend in Limited Overs unless you perform in ICC tourneys.

 

[ManFan]

So how can you become a football legend? By performing in Champions League? Also, you can make comparisons across sports on the highest standard in each. Cricket does not have clubs rather nations competing against each other therefore the World Cup is the highest standard because it is where most is at stake.

 

[Buffet]

I don't think that PPer hate him. You are going to get criticized if you don't bring your game in ICC tournaments.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

He is a great batsman in tests (orderline ATG material and much better than AB), but truly the epitome of the choker tag that SA have.

 

[Mamoon]

So how can you become a football legend? By performing in Champions League? Also, you can make comparisons across sports on the highest standard in each. Cricket does not have clubs rather nations competing against each other therefore the World Cup is the highest standard because it is where most is at stake.

In modern football, performing at a high level in the Champions League + league football + international football tournaments is enough for a player to achieve legendary status. However, if you win some of those trophies your status is obviously going to elevate. Nonetheless, the most important factor is your individual performance. Mediocre players have won World Cups and Champions League, but some ATGs have failed to do so. The problem with Amla is that he has never performed in tournaments for SA. He is the one of the main reasons why SA have not won an ICC tournament during his career. He has failed to make his mark every single time.

Regarding the hate for the players you mentioned, I think hate is a very strong word - my problem with Amla is his persistent choking and the fact that he is living proof of the fact that great numbers alone do not make you a great. Regarding de Villiers, I actually feel frustrated when I look at his career. He has been blessed with talent very, very few players in history have possessed, but he did not have the character to do justice to it. He chickens out when the going gets tough and doesn't take responsibility.

As far as Tahir is concerned, I really admire him as a bowler, but he is the most annoying individual I have seen in international cricket. His antics get on my nerves. When it comes to Amir, I have no issues with him at all but with his rabid fans, who are start foaming in their mouths even when he is legitimately criticized.

If you are going to praise him for performing well, you should also be prepared to criticize him when he is letting the team down. For example, the fact that he has taken 0 wickets in 2 matches in this tournament is obviously concerning, but his fans act as if he has been the bowler of the tournament, and the likes of Hasan etc. are taking wickets because of him. Extremely poor attitude.

 

[ManFan]

Thanks for the insight on football. I don't watch it much except for the World Cup.