Will Azhar Ali and Umar Akmal be recalled to the ODI team for the Champions Trophy?

[Citizen4]

Rumors: Azhar Ali and Umar Akmal will be back in the team for CT.
(Game on hai show)

What is this?!

The management didn't even bother playing Fakhar, Asghar, Fahim and Zakir in the WI ODIs.

Now the TTF comeback galore awaits us.

Brace Yourselves!

 

[Syed1]

Wonderful stuff from Inzi.


The revolution has BEGUN

 

[Syed1]

So what is batting order going to be?

1. Azhar
2. Shehzad
3. Kami
4. Babar
5. Hafeez/Malik
6. Sarfaraz
7. Umar
8. Imad
9. Shadab
10. Amir
11. Hasan


Mashallah


Thank you Inzi

 

[Citizen4]

Wonderful stuff from Inzi.


The revolution has BEGUN

don't know whether to laugh or cry at this news

 

[srh]

Wonderful stuff from Inzi.


The revolution has BEGUN

Disgraceful from the captain Sarfraz to not give chance to juniors at all . Sarfraz is the bigger culprit than Inzi.

 

[phoenix363]

Azhar Ali is probably about three times better than Kamran Akmal and easily better than Ahmed Shehzad so would welcome it if he replaces either of them.

Umar Akmal with his current fitness and attitude is on par with Hafeez but more suited to number 6 and we need a slogger lower down so is required by the team.

 

[Citizen4]

Disgraceful from the captain Sarfraz to not give chance to juniors at all . Sarfraz is the bigger culprit than Inzi.

Mickey is the boss in the dressing room, he makes all the decisions, who will play who won't

He's stubborn as well

 

[Syed1]

Disgraceful from the captain Sarfraz to not give chance to juniors at all . Sarfraz is the bigger culprit than Inzi.

Yeah Sarfaraz is the one doing the selections while sitting in WI.

 

[Big Mac]

Man, Misbah really hates youngsters doesn't he?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Terrible news.

 

[WC-Passion]

If Umar is fit and was tried as an "dynamic opening option" it wouldn't be too bad, but most likely he'll have a pot belly and will be stuffed at no.7.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I can actually see this happening tbh.....

Inzi loves people who have 'experience' and therefore I wouldn't be surprised if he actually makes a lineup something along the lines of

Kami
Azhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfaraz
Umer

Would most certainly be worthy to say the least...However, what would be more entertaining would be PPers coming to the aid of the Revolutionary and throwing terms like Explosive lineup to defend this mediocre lot.

Mark my words boys our CS has successfully pulled off the biggest national con since last year !!

Having said all the above, I would take Nauman Niaz's (game on hai) discussion relating to politics with a pinch of salt. The man sometimes creates things from thin air in excitement.

 

[srh]

Mickey is the boss in the dressing room, he makes all the decisions, who will play who won't

He's stubborn as well

What proof you have that Mickey is selecting the team with no input from Sarfraz? The captain almost always select the team with input from coach and its not the other way around. The buck stops at the captain (Sarfraz). He is the one who selected tested and tried failures in the team over the newbies in the squad. If he did not then why he accepted captaincy?

Yeah Sarfaraz is the one doing the selections while sitting in WI.

Inzi selected some newbies in the current ODI squad but Sarfraz did not play them. Whose fault is that? How blind a person has to be to not give blame to Sarfraz on this

 

[Syed1]

What proof you have that Mickey is selecting the team with no input from Sarfraz? The captain almost always select the team with input from coach and its not the other way around. The buck stops at the captain (Sarfraz). He is the one who selected tested and tried failures in the team over the newbies in the squad. If he did not then why he accepted captaincy?



Inzi selected some newbies in the current ODI squad but Sarfraz did not play them. Whose fault is that? How blind a person has to be to not give blame to Sarfraz on this

Yeah man Sarfaraz is the reason we are languishing at the number 8th spot. Damn you Sarfaraz!

 

[ExpressPacer]

Man, Misbah really hates youngsters doesn't he?

Please tell me you're being sarcastic..

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Umar can be tried as opener as we dont have Sharjeel.

 

[phoenix363]

I can actually see this happening tbh.....

Inzi loves people who have 'experience' and therefore I wouldn't be surprised if he actually makes a lineup something along the lines of

Kami
Azhar
Babar
Hafeez
Malik
Sarfaraz
Umer

Would most certainly be worthy to say the least...However, what would be more entertaining would be PPers coming to the aid of the Revolutionary and throwing terms like Explosive lineup to defend this mediocre lot.

Mark my words boys our CS has successfully pulled off the biggest national con since last year !!

Having said all the above, I would take Nauman Niaz's (game on hai) discussion relating to politics with a pinch of salt. The man sometimes creates things from thin air in excitement.

This lineup is not possible as Imad is confirmed at 7 with Shadab at 8 following by the fast bowlers. So if Hafeez was removed from the lineup it would actually make a far better team than the one currently playing, however Kamran Akmal would still need to be dropped.

 

[in_cutter]

Yeah Sarfaraz is the one doing the selections while sitting in WI.

According to you guys, Misbah/captain used to make all the decisions.

The hypocrisy of Misbah haters is here for all to see.

 

[Markhor]

Don't think any selections for Champions Trophy are concrete are this stage so would take these rumours (seemingly aired by Nauman Niaz) with pinch of salt.

If it does happen, would be a huge backwards step.

The Pakistan Cup will be vital in determining CT selection. I hope to god the TTFs fail and Hussain Talat/Saad Ali or any half-decent youngsters grabs the opportunity.

 

[Hamza_]

I won't mind Azhar Ali in the squad.

But need to select another opener who can play strongly, Azhar is a better option than Shehzad right now who is struggling.

 

[srh]

Yeah man Sarfaraz is the reason we are languishing at the number 8th spot. Damn you Sarfaraz!

By not trying youngsters and continue to rely on tested and tried failures, Sarfraz is definitely not trying to take Pakistan forward.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Disgraceful from the captain Sarfraz to not give chance to juniors at all . Sarfraz is the bigger culprit than Inzi.

Though Sarfraz has a special kind of respect/liking for seniors which I am not liking but its only his 1st series and he was given Hafeez, Kami, Shehzad (Kami and Shehzad scored 50s in last 2 t20s and Hafeez has utility with spin). He dropped his best buddy Wahab after 1st match.

But yes if Sarfraz continues like this for few years then it will be awful without any vision for future.

 

[srh]

Though Sarfraz has a special kind of respect/liking for seniors which I am not liking but its only his 1st series and he was given Hafeez, Kami, Shehzad (Kami and Shehzad scored 50s in last 2 t20s and Hafeez has utility with spin). He dropped his best buddy Wahab after 1st match.

But yes if Sarfraz continues like this for few years then it will be awful without any vision for future.

We were all told that Sarfraz will be different captain and I do like his aggressive captaincy approach but regarding team selection and batting order, he is an extreme disappointment he has revived the careers of tested and tried failures and history will not forgive him for this action

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

We were all told that Sarfraz will be different captain and I do like his aggressive captaincy approach but regarding team selection and batting order, he is an extreme disappointment he has revived the careers of tested and tried failures and history will not forgive him for this action

yeah I am also not happy with his team selection especially batting order.

 

[srh]

yeah I am also not happy with his team selection especially batting order.

good point. [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] take note please

 

[Big Mac]

Please tell me you're being sarcastic..

???????

For years and years we had ranting and raving about how Misbah hates youngsters and is responsible for the same names being selected time after time and how the moment he was gone our ODI team would be full of young, dynamic batsmen.

Seeing as Hafeez, Malik, Kamran Akmal, Shezhad are all in the ODI team I can only assume that Misbah is still captain right?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Neither should be recalled

Just because Shezhad is crap doesn't mean a slightly better version of him should be selected. Don't get me wrong I don't want Shezhad, but his best day as rare as it is gives us a free flowing innings. Azhar's best day gives strike rate 80.

Umar should be left alone for at least a year , if we bring him back now it sends the message pak cricket needs him rather than the other way around

The selectors won't do it but I'd rather give a hack like Naved Malik or Awais Zia a go.

Or I'd make sarfraz open and get a guy like Talat in.

Sadly we are stuck with professor , last thing we need is Azhar

 

[srh]

Neither should be recalled

Just because Shezhad is crap doesn't mean a slightly better version of him should be selected. Don't get me wrong I don't want Shezhad, but his best day as rare as it is gives us a free flowing innings. Azhar's best day gives strike rate 80.

Umar should be left alone for at least a year , if we bring him back now it sends the message pak cricket needs him rather than the other way around

The selectors won't do it but I'd rather give a hack like Naved Malik or Awais Zia a go.

Or I'd make sarfraz open and get a guy like Talat in.

Sadly we are stuck with professor , last thing we need is Azhar

Not sure what is this fascination with Talat. He is 21 years old left-hand batsman whose record is:
FC: 43 innings, 1004 runs, 28 average, 44 strike rate.
List A: 26 innings, 872 runs, 48 average, 88 strike rate.
that 28 average is downright embarrassing

Now compare him with Saad Ali who is 23 years old left-hand batsman and whose record is:
FC: 67 innings, 2516 runs, 41 average, 46 strike rate.
List A: 28 innings, 1184 runs, 62 average, 85 strike rate.

Now tell me who is the better batsman? Who averages more in FC? Who averages more in List A?

And yet you have repeatedly ask for Talat's inclusion and not Saad's inclusion. You are also a sheep like lot of other fans here. Just because Talat played 1 good inning in PSL, you will just repeat his name like others instead of digging the stats to find out the truth. A Copy and Paste poster

 

[Abdullah719]

Not sure what is this fascination with Talat. He is 21 years old left-hand batsman whose record is:
FC: 43 innings, 1004 runs, 28 average, 44 strike rate.
List A: 26 innings, 872 runs, 48 average, 88 strike rate.
that 28 average is downright embarrassing

Now compare him with Saad Ali who is 23 years old left-hand batsman and whose record is:
FC: 67 innings, 2516 runs, 41 average, 46 strike rate.
List A: 28 innings, 1184 runs, 62 average, 85 strike rate.

Now tell me who is the better batsman? Who averages more in FC? Who averages more in List A?

And yet you have repeatedly ask for Talat's inclusion and not Saad's inclusion. You are also a sheep like lot of other fans here. Just because Talat played 1 good inning in PSL, you will just repeat his name like others instead of digging the stats to find out the truth. A Copy and Paste poster

Maybe he's asking for Talat because we've actually seen him bat...? And most people haven't seen Saad bat?

Not such an alien concept, is it?

 

[Citizen4]

Not sure what is this fascination with Talat. He is 21 years old left-hand batsman whose record is:
FC: 43 innings, 1004 runs, 28 average, 44 strike rate.
List A: 26 innings, 872 runs, 48 average, 88 strike rate.
that 28 average is downright embarrassing

Now compare him with Saad Ali who is 23 years old left-hand batsman and whose record is:
FC: 67 innings, 2516 runs, 41 average, 46 strike rate.
List A: 28 innings, 1184 runs, 62 average, 85 strike rate.

Now tell me who is the better batsman? Who averages more in FC? Who averages more in List A?

And yet you have repeatedly ask for Talat's inclusion and not Saad's inclusion. You are also a sheep like lot of other fans here. Just because Talat played 1 good inning in PSL, you will just repeat his name like others instead of digging the stats to find out the truth. A Copy and Paste poster

Talat would be an ideal option for limited ovrs team, he can bowl too, he's a medium pacer

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Not sure what is this fascination with Talat. He is 21 years old left-hand batsman whose record is:
FC: 43 innings, 1004 runs, 28 average, 44 strike rate.
List A: 26 innings, 872 runs, 48 average, 88 strike rate.
that 28 average is downright embarrassing

Now compare him with Saad Ali who is 23 years old left-hand batsman and whose record is:
FC: 67 innings, 2516 runs, 41 average, 46 strike rate.
List A: 28 innings, 1184 runs, 62 average, 85 strike rate.

Now tell me who is the better batsman? Who averages more in FC? Who averages more in List A?

And yet you have repeatedly ask for Talat's inclusion and not Saad's inclusion. You are also a sheep like lot of other fans here. Just because Talat played 1 good inning in PSL, you will just repeat his name like others instead of digging the stats to find out the truth. A Copy and Paste poster

Talat was arguably the best batsman in the last list A tournament plus he can strike a ball. His 6 to 4 ratio is among the best in Pakistan. If we went purely on stats we would have a team of 7 batsman all of whom would struggle to hit boundaries . By your method sharjeel should never have played for Pakistan .

Plus we can have both Talat and Saad Ali in this team, I reckon saad ali can open for us, however if I had to choose one it would be Talat

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Maybe he's asking for Talat because we've actually seen him bat...? And most people haven't seen Saad bat?

Not such an alien concept, is it?

Talat can hit big , one of the few in Pakistan, hence why I would have him first. Look at his 6 to 4 ratio compared to other players

 

[Syed1]

Not sure what is this fascination with Talat. He is 21 years old left-hand batsman whose record is:
FC: 43 innings, 1004 runs, 28 average, 44 strike rate.
List A: 26 innings, 872 runs, 48 average, 88 strike rate.
that 28 average is downright embarrassing

Now compare him with Saad Ali who is 23 years old left-hand batsman and whose record is:
FC: 67 innings, 2516 runs, 41 average, 46 strike rate.
List A: 28 innings, 1184 runs, 62 average, 85 strike rate.

Now tell me who is the better batsman? Who averages more in FC? Who averages more in List A?

And yet you have repeatedly ask for Talat's inclusion and not Saad's inclusion. You are also a sheep like lot of other fans here. Just because Talat played 1 good inning in PSL, you will just repeat his name like others instead of digging the stats to find out the truth. A Copy and Paste poster

Yes the stats are definitely in Saad's favour and he may even be a better batsman but Talat is closer to selection because of these reasons:

1. Got picked in the PSL
2. Hit a beautiful fifty in his debut innings of PSL
3. Inzi selected him in U23 Emerging Cup
4. Played as an opener and in the lower order (both position we desperately need ppl in)
5. Scored a quick fire fifty in the death overs
6. Scored a nice 30 odd as opener


Saad has been unlucky that he didn't get picked for the PSL and hence lacked the exposure that Talat got, but we should hope that he does well in the Pakistan Cup and gets on the selector's radar.

 

[in_cutter]

Talat can hit big , one of the few in Pakistan, hence why I would have him first. Look at his 6 to 4 ratio compared to other players

Heard it & seen it all before. Hard to believe.

 

[Jabo]

LOL

Wouldn't be surprised, an Akmal with good fitness is still decent.
Azhar shouldn't be on the ODI side at all

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Heard it & seen it all before. Hard to believe.

So what should we do, give up ? Or keep trying till we fix a problem . I'm not saying Talat will be a legend, hardly anyone is, but merely suggesting a new player gets people to cut their wrists

 

[Hamza_]

So what should we do, give up ? Or keep trying till we fix a problem . I'm not saying Talat will be a legend, hardly anyone is, but merely suggesting a new player gets people to cut their wrists

Tallat did hit plenty of sizes in his 140odd.

He has partnered Sharjeel on many times I think in domestic

 

[Shafi]

I would rather have Azhar Ali and Umar Akmal (with brain) then Shehzad tuk tuk and Zakir oldies