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Will Hanif Mohammad's 337 ever be surpassed by any Pakistani batsman?

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Who will be the player to break his Test record of the highest score by a Pakistani batsman - if it ever even happens?

YK and Inzy got close (313 and 329) but 337 still remains the elusive mark for our batsman.

YK is too old to do it now - maybe against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe in the UAE he may have a chance but I doubt it. Highly commendable though he got close in 2009 when he scored his triple hundred.

Azhar is simply not good enough.

Hafeez remains a good strokeplayer in the subcontinent but I doubt he has the temperament to score a big triple hundred.

Misbah is also too old and never had the temperament to score big hundreds - even in his prime.

I would bet my money on Asad Shafiq - he has the technique, temperament and a solid all-round game to make big scores for Pakistan. He just needs to move up the order once Misbah/YK retire.
 
Who will be the player to break his Test record of the highest score by a Pakistani batsman - if it ever even happens?

YK and Inzy got close (313 and 329) but 337 still remains the elusive mark for our batsman.

YK is too old to do it now - maybe against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe in the UAE he may have a chance but I doubt it. Highly commendable though he got close in 2009 when he scored his triple hundred.

Azhar is simply not good enough.

Hafeez remains a good strokeplayer in the subcontinent but I doubt he has the temperament to score a big triple hundred.

Misbah is also too old and never had the temperament to score big hundreds - even in his prime.

I would bet my money on Asad Shafiq - he has the technique, temperament and a solid all-round game to make big scores for Pakistan. He just needs to move up the order once Misbah/YK retire.

Shafiq has definitely not shown the temperament to score a triple hundred. He often throws it away after getting 70-80
 
With the shocking West Indies bowling lineup even Shan Masood has a chance in Sepetember
 
No one. I will be happy to see the team score 337+ on a consistent basis though.
 
"Ever" is a long time.

In our current squad only YK has temperament to play epic innings but he is too old now.

So hopefully in near future, but right now no.
 
Even more amazing is the duration of his innings (970 minutes). It remains the world record for longest Test innings in terms of time, with Gary Kirsten's 878 minute effort having come the closest. A record rather unlikely to be broken, due to Test cricket getting more and more fast-paced with time.
 
Hard to say when we rarely produce a batsman who has the ability to bat for long periods and our greats of the past were unable to despite how good they were. Just puts into perspective the concentration power of the little master!!! who also held the record for the highest ever score in FC cricket with 499 before being run out!
 
It will be an insult to our first batting great if Younis Khan or any of these regular tier batsmen break it.

Need an ATG for the torch to be passed to, otherwise I hope no random batsman breaks it.
 
It will be an insult to our first batting great if Younis Khan or any of these regular tier batsmen break it.

Need an ATG for the torch to be passed to, otherwise I hope no random batsman breaks it.

I would rather ANY lulloo batsman break it if it means winning/drawing a match or even a series from an incredible comeback position.

The batsman may continue to be a lulloo and be forgotten but we will remember the match/series for a long time!
 
Even more amazing is the duration of his innings (970 minutes). It remains the world record for longest Test innings in terms of time, with Gary Kirsten's 878 minute effort having come the closest. A record rather unlikely to be broken, due to Test cricket getting more and more fast-paced with time.

It is possible - for example we concede 600+ in the first innings and someone has to produce an epic rearguard to save the Test match where winning it was already out of the equation.

Same if we concede a huge 1st innings deficit and someone plays a slow but effective reardguard in the 3rd innings to force a draw.

More likely to happen in the UAE than abroad.
 
Azhar and Shafiq have the temperament to do it.

If they aren't able to do it, I don't think anyone else can.
 
Fawad Alam is really the only person I can even think can play for that long and not have a brain fade
 
Azhar and Shafiq have the temperament to do it.

If they aren't able to do it, I don't think anyone else can.

They don't

No one from the current active cricketers pool has the technique, temperament or patience for that
 
They don't

No one from the current active cricketers pool has the technique, temperament or patience for that

Shafiq can once he moved up the order.

He has the mentality to play a long rearguard innings. Is technically sound too and has a good composure at the crease too.
 
Definitely no one from the current squad.

Shafiq doesn't play long inns, he won't get there.

No one. I will be happy to see the team score 337+ on a consistent basis though.

Hard to say when we rarely produce a batsman who has the ability to bat for long periods and our greats of the past were unable to despite how good they were. Just puts into perspective the concentration power of the little master!!! who also held the record for the highest ever score in FC cricket with 499 before being run out!

On 16th February 2014 - NZ were facing a 240 run deficit in the 3rd innings against India at Wellington when they came out to bat and were further reduced to 94/5 as McCullum was still playing.

If you told me that day McCullum would play an epic rearguard and become the first NZ player to score a triple hundred - someone who was still considered a ODI/T20 tullaybaaz I would have laughed and called it a joke! :138:

The rest, as they say, is history!

Moral of the story is don't discount anyone just because you think they don't have the temperament. Heck - it could be Masood for all we know to break the record one day lol

I would still think Shafiq is the likeliest candidate however.
 
On 16th February 2014 - NZ were facing a 240 run deficit in the 3rd innings against India at Wellington when they came out to bat and were further reduced to 94/5 as McCullum was still playing.

If you told me that day McCullum would play an epic rearguard and become the first NZ player to score a triple hundred - someone who was still considered a ODI/T20 tullaybaaz I would have laughed and called it a joke! :138:

The rest, as they say, is history!

Moral of the story is don't discount anyone just because you think they don't have the temperament. Heck - it could be Masood for all we know to break the record one day lol

I would still think Shafiq is the likeliest candidate however.

It's not only about temperament, speed of scoring is also key as is support from the other end and the captain not declaring. Shafiq will take 600 balls at least which will take about 2 days.
 
On 16th February 2014 - NZ were facing a 240 run deficit in the 3rd innings against India at Wellington when they came out to bat and were further reduced to 94/5 as McCullum was still playing.

If you told me that day McCullum would play an epic rearguard and become the first NZ player to score a triple hundred - someone who was still considered a ODI/T20 tullaybaaz I would have laughed and called it a joke! :138:

The rest, as they say, is history!

Moral of the story is don't discount anyone just because you think they don't have the temperament. Heck - it could be Masood for all we know to break the record one day lol

I would still think Shafiq is the likeliest candidate however.

Brendon's temperament was pretty decent, he had the ability to concentrate for long periods but then all of a sudden decided to smash every ball out the park and he decided to play in the same in the Test arena. However as we've seen from someone like sehwag you could potentially break records playing in that very manner! he had an S/R of 100+ when he got to the triple v SA in 2008 for example. I get your point though, could be anyone half decent at home or away whether they are natural stroke makers or technically sound; heck even hafeez may have a chance in the UAE on a flat deck. I do think Lara's 400* is immortal though :))
 
It is possible - for example we concede 600+ in the first innings and someone has to produce an epic rearguard to save the Test match where winning it was already out of the equation.

Same if we concede a huge 1st innings deficit and someone plays a slow but effective reardguard in the 3rd innings to force a draw.

More likely to happen in the UAE than abroad.

As a matter of fact, the third longest innings ever (longest of the the 21st century) was in the UAE. It was in the match where Pakistan made 523, courtesy of Malik's 240 odd. In response, Cook batted for 836 minutes for his 263.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1958. Hanif Mohammad was out for 337 after batting for 970 minutes to save Pakistan's first Test against West Indies in Barbados. His 337 was at the time the second-highest score in Test history <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/RGI3R8j3At">pic.twitter.com/RGI3R8j3At</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1352918979216605184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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From hoping someone from fawad, azhar,haris,younis khan,misbah or asad shafiq to do it, the only one left is babar and even he dosent have the temparement to score a double it seems so far.
 
From hoping someone from fawad, azhar,haris,younis khan,misbah or asad shafiq to do it, the only one left is babar and even he dosent have the temparement to score a double it seems so far.
Azhar did score a triple century against the West Indies in Dubai in 2016 though, but Pakistan declared, so he couldn't break Hanif Muhammad's record.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1958. Hanif Mohammad was out for 337 after batting for 970 minutes to save Pakistan's first Test against West Indies in Barbados. His 337 was at the time the second-highest score in Test history <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/RGI3R8j3At">pic.twitter.com/RGI3R8j3At</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1352918979216605184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2021</a></blockquote>
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This be theee man. Listening Gavaskar talk about this man many moons ago shed so much light on his legacy.

Hanif was before I started watching cricket so never had a chance to listen to the radio when he was on. Should have tried to meet him when he was still amongst us.

Somehow I managed to get into my head that this was the temperament everyone needed to have. Hence, many years ago while debuting for my local club, I went to open and batted 35 overs for 35 runs.

Thankfully there wasn't a meme culture at that point.
 
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Who will be the player to break his Test record of the highest score by a Pakistani batsman - if it ever even happens?

YK and Inzy got close (313 and 329) but 337 still remains the elusive mark for our batsman.

YK is too old to do it now - maybe against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe in the UAE he may have a chance but I doubt it. Highly commendable though he got close in 2009 when he scored his triple hundred.

Azhar is simply not good enough.

Hafeez remains a good strokeplayer in the subcontinent but I doubt he has the temperament to score a big triple hundred.

Misbah is also too old and never had the temperament to score big hundreds - even in his prime.

I would bet my money on Asad Shafiq - he has the technique, temperament and a solid all-round game to make big scores for Pakistan. He just needs to move up the order once Misbah/YK retire.

But why does it matter? Unless the runs are scored in a match saving or match winning context, it is almost purely academic who gets the record.

I almost do not mind if Hanif keeps it. Most children in this day and age only know him through this. A very unassuming individual with few media interviews.

And I want PAK’s next generations to remain abreast of our batting history too, no matter the limited spoils of the last few decades.
 
Will it be passed bh ang batsman anywhere in the world?

I don't think so.

A true legend of the game.

A warrior.
 
Test cricket is better without triple centuries.

Nobody wants to see obscenely flat pitches less than I do, but this 337 was in the context of saving a Test match for a totally outgunned Pakistan side whose batting entirely rested on this little man's shoulders.

I don't think any Pakistani batsman today has the temperament to bat for such a long time. Azhar did score a triple ton a few years ago but now is way past his peak.
 
the likelihood is higher now that pakistan are playing back in pakistan, can imagine someone scoring a triple against zim, bang, ireland or even wi, and from there 38 runs isnt too much more.
 
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