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HinderTheJinder

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The worst country I ever visited is a draw between India and Sri Lanka.Don't get me wrong Northern India and Central India like Delhi,Mumbai are really good places to visit but the problem is in Southern India in places like Bangalore,Kochi,Goa,Chennai etc and SL is strikingly similar to it.These places were so similar and so unhygenic that there was a really bad experience for us in the hotel where there was ant attack in our room in SL in Kandy and it was one of the best hotels in Kandy and there was a lake behind the city and the water of that lake was so green that you could see how polluted that river was.South India was pretty much same as well and the funny thing is that our guide said that he doesn't like India because its polluted which was quite ironic tbh.Kerala is for some reason is known Gods own country which prompted me to have unrealistic hope from the place it was so bad that I don't know why but there was a smell in these city which made me feel nauseated.Phase 5 in Lahore is much better than both of these countries to be honest.If we had a sea here in Lahore it would have been much better than these cities which I mentioned.


Though there were some positives in India as well in cities like Delhi and Mumbai which I liked to be honest.They were really good cities but I wish I had never gone down the north.A sheer waste of money and time.
 
I haven't traveled to many cities outside North America and Pakistan, none of the cities in America are anywhere as bad as the ones in Pakistan, of the cities i've visited in Pakistan I'd say Karachi is the dirtiest and least pleasant but it could be so much better. I'm sure it's better than any city in india.
 
The UAE or Kenya. Madagascar is probably the least developed but I loved my time there. Wales was really boring too
 
Right. We believe you.

Well if you dont believe me then I can't help but can tell you some info about myself.My family business in Pak is one of the largest film distributors in Pakistan of both Hollywood and Bollywood movies and my grandfather was good friends with the late Yash Chopra and even went to his funeral.He has gone to houses of some popular Bollywood actors like Shah Rukh Khan.I would have posted some pics but can't share here due to privacy
 
Well if you dont believe me then I can't help but can tell you some info about myself.My family business in Pak is one of the largest film distributors in Pakistan of both Hollywood and Bollywood movies and my grandfather was good friends with the late Yash Chopra and even went to his funeral.He has gone to houses of some popular Bollywood actors like Shah Rukh Khan.I would have posted some pics but can't share here due to privacy

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...akistani-getting-a-visa&highlight=indian+visa
 
Kerala is the worst country I have visited. Very dirty and unhygienic food..and people ready to cheat you when they know you are a tourist. Never going to visit that cesspit again.
 
Kerala is the worst country I have visited. Very dirty and unhygienic food..and people ready to cheat you when they know you are a tourist. Never going to visit that cesspit again.

Funny thing is that for some reason its called Gods own country and I don't know why
 
Funny thing is that for some reason its called Gods own country and I don't know why

It is a marketing gimmick by cunning people who want to entrap unsuspecting tourists so that they can be fleeced of their hard earned money. Should be blacklisted by all countries.
 
I don't travel much outside the U.S. but went to visit my cousins in Delhi, India few times. Out of the two countries, India is worse. There is so much air pollution there. Walk outside for few hours and it will feel like you can't even breathe anymore. Also metro stations are really crowded. I decided to take Green park metro to somewhere and oh hu hu it was so crowded. On return the rikshay wala charged me more then he was supposed to. Also don't visit lodhi gardens. There are wild dogs all over and you can't even walk in peace because all the people stare at you out of jealousy.
 
Seems like its become fashionable to say India but honestly speaking, visiting Bombay was one of the most unpleasant experiences of my life. Very smelly and humid. However, much like every other city in the Sub Continent, there are also posh areas where there is nothing but beauty, extravagance and urbanity.
 
North India more hygienic than South India and Kerala, what a joke !!!! Sri Lanka is undoubtedly the cleanest SAARC nation. Kerala, Goa and TN(minus Chennai) are much much better than every single North Indian state in terms of cleanliness and pollution. Bengaluru used to be a top notch city in the 80s but the influx of North Indians in the last 2 decades has done irreversible damage to the garden city, but still way way better than dump yards like Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata.
 
North India more hygienic than South India and Kerala, what a joke !!!! Sri Lanka is undoubtedly the cleanest SAARC nation. Kerala, Goa and TN(minus Chennai) are much much better than every single North Indian state in terms of cleanliness and pollution. Bengaluru used to be a top notch city in the 80s but the influx of North Indians in the last 2 decades has done irreversible damage to the garden city, but still way way better than dump yards like Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata.

please check the list of cleanest cities according to ministry of urban development. Come back and tell me what is the highest rank by any city/town in Kerala?
 
please check the list of cleanest cities according to ministry of urban development. Come back and tell me what is the highest rank by any city/town in Kerala?

Two Major cities were among top 8 in 2015 don't what happened in 2016 not even a single city/town featured in top 50
 
[MENTION=143530]Swashbuckler[/MENTION] Ever heard of Swachh Survekshan -2016 by min of urban development? I suggest you read up a bit on that before spewing drivel against north Indian states.Weren't you guys supposed to be intelligent and all that compared to jahils from north?
 
You are such a liar .

Forget my country , SL is one of the most beautiful places I have visited . its so clean even the most remote places , infact thats one of the things which surprised me .
 
My wife wants me to take her to Ko Samui in Thailand in the next couple of months? Anyone been there?
 
please check the list of cleanest cities according to ministry of urban development. Come back and tell me what is the highest rank by any city/town in Kerala?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/colum...ity-ranking/story-Krh2RmbFJ0OEd59zaPNaSM.html

The survey assigned 45% weight to self-declaration by municipalities, 25% to independent assessment by surveyors and 30% to citizen feedback.

This survey by feku government has 0 credibility. Having been to many North and South Indian cities I feel I have the freedom to come to my own conclusion. And FYI Sri Lanka is the cleanest country in our region, so OP is obviously wrong there.
 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/colum...ity-ranking/story-Krh2RmbFJ0OEd59zaPNaSM.html

The survey assigned 45% weight to self-declaration by municipalities, 25% to independent assessment by surveyors and 30% to citizen feedback.

This survey by feku government has 0 credibility. Having been to many North and South Indian cities I feel I have the freedom to come to my own conclusion. And FYI Sri Lanka is the cleanest country in our region, so OP is obviously wrong there.

Ok, you are right and the survey is wrong. Are you a commie by any chance?
 
[MENTION=143530]Swashbuckler[/MENTION] Ever heard of Swachh Survekshan -2016 by min of urban development? I suggest you read up a bit on that before spewing drivel against north Indian states.Weren't you guys supposed to be intelligent and all that compared to jahils from north?

I don't hate North or North Indians, I just don't believe that North Indian cities are cleaner than South Indian ones and Lanka. Why do you take an honest feedback as an upfront attack on North India? Can't a person give his opinion. And no I don't believe in Swachh Surevekshan or whatever the hell feku government calls it, the methodology is deeply flawed. GOI is lying on many issues like demonetization, GDP, national security, and now this.
 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/colum...ity-ranking/story-Krh2RmbFJ0OEd59zaPNaSM.html

The survey assigned 45% weight to self-declaration by municipalities, 25% to independent assessment by surveyors and 30% to citizen feedback.

This survey by feku government has 0 credibility. Having been to many North and South Indian cities I feel I have the freedom to come to my own conclusion. And FYI Sri Lanka is the cleanest country in our region, so OP is obviously wrong there.
:))) Sure.
 
Ok, you are right and the survey is wrong. Are you a commie by any chance?

How does it matter what I am? I suggest you go through the article and point out flaws in it. No need to divert and speculate about my ideology.
 
I don't hate North or North Indians, I just don't believe that North Indian cities are cleaner than South Indian ones and Lanka. Why do you take an honest feedback as an upfront attack on North India? Can't a person give his opinion. And no I don't believe in Swachh Surevekshan or whatever the hell feku government calls it, the methodology is deeply flawed. GOI is lying on many issues like demonetization, GDP, national security, and now this.

Erm I'm gonna believe my Govt which despite of its many faults has still more credibility than some guy from some state generalizing a whole region based on few trips.
 
Erm I'm gonna believe my Govt which despite of its many faults has still more credibility than some guy from some state generalizing a whole region based on few trips.

OK, sure I don't mind at all. :))
 
Dont know about country but Kohat in Pakistan must be what hell is like.
 
How does it matter what I am? I suggest you go through the article and point out flaws in it. No need to divert and speculate about my ideology.

Your ideology is important, for then you will have high credibility and obviously you will be right, while anything you don't agree with will obviously be wrong.
 
Don't think the question is phrased that well. All countries have good and bad points, and of course some are not like for like. You cannot compare visiting Pakistan with travelling to the States or Western Europe for example.

In any case, of all the countries I have travelled to so far, I least enjoyed my time in Bangladesh. I only went for a week. Sunderbans was ok, but really did not like Dhaka and didn't get the hype about Cox's Bazaar. Probably the big thing for me was that food was terrible. I have travelled a fair bit around the Sub-Continent (Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan), so thought that the food could not be that bad....its desi food after all. Was crap.

Also, addressing some of the topics of the thread - from my experience, Northern India (Hindi belt) is much less 'clean' compared to the South of the country. Sri Lanka is beautiful. Karachi is probably slightly cleaner than Bombay....and has slightly better weather, but its less developed. Bombay has got more things going for itself as a city....but needs to clean itself up.

Food is also a lot more 'modern' in India than Pakistan. They have started to try and evolve desi food. Fine dining, etc. From what I saw in Pakistan, there is less of this. But - funnily enough Dhabbas in Pakistan are more evolved. Indian dhabbas serve standard North Indian fare. In Pakistan, you can get cool things, like chilled soup, 'desi burgers', etc.
 
In any case, of all the countries I have travelled to so far, I least enjoyed my time in Bangladesh. I only went for a week. Sunderbans was ok, but really did not like Dhaka and didn't get the hype about Cox's Bazaar. Probably the big thing for me was that food was terrible. I have travelled a fair bit around the Sub-Continent (Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan), so thought that the food could not be that bad....its desi food after all. Was crap.

I think you have said this many times. If you didn't like Bengali food, then you are free to try something else, instead of harping over it in every other thread.
 
You found Goa dirty? Panji? In what basis did you find Panji dirty?
 
Hmm... the usual suspects letting loose with their personal biases as always.... Atleast there are some patriots like [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] who sees this as "India" centric instead of regional.

Anyways, [MENTION=143471]HinderTheJinder[/MENTION], what DID you expect going into tropical, perpetually rain affected places like SL, Goa or Kerala ? You'd get to see all the greenery and beaches without any of the smells ? I bet the Brazillians/Thais would be mopping up the water and spraying air fresheners everywhere all the time ?

And "God's own country" is purely a marketing gimmick, just like "Incredible India" .
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The triggering was done by OP who claims to have travelled to many parts of Northern India, (which would resemble his own home nation) but seems to be very oblivious to the slums, poor waste disposal, stray animals and open defecation issues that these parts suffer greatly from .. (Not saying Bangalore is any better ).
[MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] And grouping all of Goa, Kerala Bangalore , TN and SL as one unit for a broad generalization means that the "South" narrative is already well established before the people responded here.

And personally I feel people from the southern states, should stop bringing up "Rape" as some sort of North specific phenomenon, all Indians are mostly sex starved creatures, with poor sex-ed from childhood.

The relative lack of freedom of movement for women in the southern states, is also a reason why fewer women get attacked. The lower level of goonda-giri and better financial/educational levels are just supplementary factors. You will find it hard to prove that objectively the south as a bloc is better for women compared to north.


Overall , I realized that all this so called Progress in the past 20-30 years has only widened the cultural/regional fault lines of this country, instead of bridging them. The best thing to do is to keep working on the areas that need attention in your states and push back at the cultural invasion (which is in full swing now) whenever possible, instead of just whining.
 
I think you have said this many times. If you didn't like Bengali food, then you are free to try something else, instead of harping over it in every other thread.

Ever tried heeding your own advise ?:facepalm: Look at what you posted earlier and read this again .!
 
I think you have said this many times. If you didn't like Bengali food, then you are free to try something else, instead of harping over it in every other thread.

I mean no offence.

The thread was about countries visited. I stated my opinion. A large part of why I did not enjoy Bangladesh was the food. Regarding the other threads where I have commented on Bengali food.....well the topic of the thread was food related.

I would not get so defensive over it. It's ok....its just food.
 
I have twice been to Panji and imo it's the best city by far in India .Certainly better than the overrated Chandigarh.

It defn is at least for me,esp at night it's lovely to drive In the main city ,been there thrice now.
 
Hmm... the usual suspects letting loose with their personal biases as always.... Atleast there are some patriots like [MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] who sees this as "India" centric instead of regional.

Anyways, [MENTION=143471]HinderTheJinder[/MENTION], what DID you expect going into tropical, perpetually rain affected places like SL, Goa or Kerala ? You'd get to see all the greenery and beaches without any of the smells ? I bet the Brazillians/Thais would be mopping up the water and spraying air fresheners everywhere all the time ?

And "God's own country" is purely a marketing gimmick, just like "Incredible India" .
[MENTION=139678]Zak_Fan[/MENTION]
The triggering was done by OP who claims to have travelled to many parts of Northern India, (which would resemble his own home nation) but seems to be very oblivious to the slums, poor waste disposal, stray animals and open defecation issues that these parts suffer greatly from .. (Not saying Bangalore is any better ).
[MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION] And grouping all of Goa, Kerala Bangalore , TN and SL as one unit for a broad generalization means that the "South" narrative is already well established before the people responded here.

And personally I feel people from the southern states, should stop bringing up "Rape" as some sort of North specific phenomenon, all Indians are mostly sex starved creatures, with poor sex-ed from childhood.

The relative lack of freedom of movement for women in the southern states, is also a reason why fewer women get attacked. The lower level of goonda-giri and better financial/educational levels are just supplementary factors. You will find it hard to prove that objectively the south as a bloc is better for women compared to north.


Overall , I realized that all this so called Progress in the past 20-30 years has only widened the cultural/regional fault lines of this country, instead of bridging them. The best thing to do is to keep working on the areas that need attention in your states and push back at the cultural invasion (which is in full swing now) whenever possible, instead of just whining.

Sandeep I don't understand why would you sarcastically mock me when I didn't even start this stupid north vs south debate.It was clear to me from the first post only that this was a bait thread(SL unclean lol). But it is completely unacceptable to me when guys like @swashbucker come out of nowhere and start bashing North based on their anecdotal experiences and when confronted with facts start blabbering about untrustworthy Govt etc.
Not to mention the rape comment which was completely unwarranted :facepalm:
 
Parts of the UK are just terrible. Hard to pick a country overall as all countries have their attractions and drawbacks and it would be unfair to pick one without travelling extensively through that country.
 
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Sandeep I don't understand why would you sarcastically mock me when I didn't even start this stupid north vs south debate.It was clear to me from the first post only that this was a bait thread(SL unclean lol). But it is completely unacceptable to me when guys like @swashbucker come out of nowhere and start bashing North based on their anecdotal experiences and when confronted with facts start blabbering about untrustworthy Govt etc.
Not to mention the rape comment which was completely unwarranted :facepalm:

That was not sarcasm . I've not blamed you for any "anti-state" agenda. You were the only guy who took it as a slight on the whole country , unlike others .

The rest of It was not at you, you know who it's for.

And I've given my opinion about bringing up the "R" word.
 
Sandeep I don't understand why would you sarcastically mock me when I didn't even start this stupid north vs south debate.It was clear to me from the first post only that this was a bait thread(SL unclean lol). But it is completely unacceptable to me when guys like @swashbucker come out of nowhere and start bashing North based on their anecdotal experiences and when confronted with facts start blabbering about untrustworthy Govt etc.
Not to mention the rape comment which was completely unwarranted :facepalm:

*** ! How do you know my name ? :20: Am I being stalked on Social Media ? :herath
 
Other than Pakistan which I wont mention due to it being a 3rd World Country the worst place I have been to is Szczecin Poland felt like i was stuck in the Early 90s thought it would be much nicer due to being next door to Berlin.

In England was at Canary Wharf and got one of those DLR Trains and went past Whitechapel them flats made the flats in which junkies and prostitutes live in up here look posh at least from the outside. Worst of all according to a local I was with they were the nicer ones.
 
Wales - Snowdonia aside boring as hell.

You my friend have no appreciation of natural beauty, Snowdoinia is one of the most breath taking places in the UK, specially the coastal and northern region, I've been up there 4 times in the last 2 years and can never get enough.
 
Sandy is a very popular short name for Sandeep.Thought it was a common knowledge?

But not in Kerala. There are a lot of "gaalis" that end with "-ndy" in Malayalam, so having such a name would've made me prime target . :))) I adopted it myself in college, had no nicknames till then .. :D
 
They copied that from Yorkshire :boycott

TIL ? Was Yorkshire called so ? Since when ?

Kerala adopting that name was a play on Kashmir being called Heaven on Earth . That was supposed to be a name given by the brits. As the Kashmir issue caused the decline of tourism there since the late 60's, our government thought that having a fancy catchphrase will sell our state as India's next tourist hotspot.

The natural beauty did help sell it too.
 
But not in Kerala. There are a lot of "gaalis" that end with "-ndy" in Malayalam, so having such a name would've made me prime target . :))) I adopted it myself in college, had no nicknames till then .. :D

Its pretty common in North.
Sandy for Sandeep
Lucky for Lakshman
Rocky for Rakesh
Deepu for Deependra
Yashu for Yashwardhan
 
Lol there is more garbage in this thread than in our cities..

First of all how can anyone say Mumbai/Delhi are better than Goa is beyond me.. From a tourist perspective Delhi/Mumbai is prettty crappy cities with too much pollution, population, pathetic weather for most parts and cleanliness issues.. If someone says Delhi/Mumbai are better than Goa for a tourist then they clearly haven't been to all these cities and are lying..

Best places in India are the mountains of north.. If you like a quiet scenic beauty kind of life with no one around you but your friends or family you should visit places like Ladak, spiti valley etc.. The air is so clean and you can see millions of stars at night compared to one or two stars you see in metro cities..
 
None's been to Saudi ? I mean keep aside the holy sites, it's a stuck up place isn't it ?

I've lived in Kuwait for some time, but being 4 year old at that time, makes me unqualified to comment on anything apart from my apartment . :)
 
All south asian countries have their issues with hygiene, chaos, disorder, etc. But that chaos is also what's charming in a way about life in those countries. Having been to all of India, BD, SL and of course lived in Pakistan, I would say BD by far is most challenged with some of the issues a developing nation faces. In other counties I found extremes of lavish life and poverty, in BD it was mostly the latter. Just my experience.

Sri Lanka is small but beautiful. India is great too, but SO many people in the big cities. Pakistan to some people's surprise may have some of the best infrastructure in south asia in terms of roads, bridges, etc. Maybe it feels this way because it is least densely populated (aside from SL).
 
A few years back I was touring Southern Africa.

The worst country I have been to is Angola. Policemen and soldiers at every corner.

Communists and capitalists were killing each other. There are so many tribes and all are fighting amongst themselves.

Poverty and corruption are the order in this lawless country

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Buildings everywhere are crumbling

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Landmine indicators. Angola has more landmines than any other country. Not a proud statistic to boast by any means. There is an estimated 8-10 million landmines in the country- aprox. one for every Angolan.
 
Have not been to many countries only Pakistan, Canada, USA, Saudi Arabia and Sri Lanka. All of them have their positive points so would not term any of them as worst country. Have not visited India yet but saw a show about Calcutta and it looks like one of the worst place ever to visit.
 
Lasalgaon, Maharashtra used to be one of the worst place that i have visited/stayed back in my childhood. Don't know how it looks like now......
 
Sri Lanka is a beautiful country.

From the cities I have visited I would say Manila tops the list by quite a margin followed by Delhi, Karachi, Pindi, Mumbai in no particular order.
 
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You my friend have no appreciation of natural beauty, Snowdoinia is one of the most breath taking places in the UK, specially the coastal and northern region, I've been up there 4 times in the last 2 years and can never get enough.

My friend I think you need to read again exactly what I said. I said "snowdonia aside".

I appreciated that side of wales but the rest of it I found boring - not much to do. But that was some 15 years ago. Who knows I might like it better if I go now.
 
Jhang, Pakistan which is where my mother is from.

I wasnt even allowed outside in black clothes as a kid.
 
Curious to know why.

I just found the people not as friendly and open as some of the other places I've visited and there have been a few.

For me a country may have natural beauty whether it's rural or urban but most country have beauty even those in the third world but the people really make the country. My favourite country is Thailand, not only is is stunning with nature but the people are really friendly (apart those who want to make a quick buck). I went to find a mosque one Friday and ended up walking through a very poor neighbourhood. I saw a man bathing his young baby boy outside a very poor house. I went over and he was happy to talk with a huge smile on his face. In France I found the people don't smile much, they seem miserable. Sure not everyone is bad but I hate going to France now.
 
I just found the people not as friendly and open as some of the other places I've visited and there have been a few.

For me a country may have natural beauty whether it's rural or urban but most country have beauty even those in the third world but the people really make the country. My favourite country is Thailand, not only is is stunning with nature but the people are really friendly (apart those who want to make a quick buck). I went to find a mosque one Friday and ended up walking through a very poor neighbourhood. I saw a man bathing his young baby boy outside a very poor house. I went over and he was happy to talk with a huge smile on his face. In France I found the people don't smile much, they seem miserable. Sure not everyone is bad but I hate going to France now.

Agreed on Thailand, probably my favourite people.
 
I live in USA, have spent over 10 years in Pakistan, and visited UAE, Saudi Arabia, Italy, Argentina and Canada.

I have a soft spot for Pakistan inspite of all its problems.
Least favorite will have to be Saudi Arabia. It doesnt have any of the security problems Pakistan does and it has an amazing infrastructure. But besides Mecca and Medina, I found it lifeless, dull and without any soul.
UAE is similar but to a lesser extent. I wasn't convinced by the tall buildings and the glamour.
Argentina is what I would like Pakistan to be. A country with a lot of problems (to a lesser degree than Pakistan) but a genuine spirit, liveliness and can see myself living there for 1-2 years.
Italy was nice to visit but wouldn't live there.
USA is by far the best place to live but it has some major flaws. The Healthcare system is absolute shambles with no signs of being fixed and the people are just way too nationalistic which blinds them to the actual problems of the country and allow themselves to be allured by bravado talkers like Trump who distracts them from the actual problem and leads them on to what they want to hear. Shame really. Still the best of the lot in my opinion.
 
Without doubt it's India. Extreme poverty like in no other country I have ever seen. You open a chocolate bar in Delhi and the entire city runs after you pulling your shirt, it's scary!. It is also incredibly over populated so much that you don't know where your next footstep will be. There are slums everywhere and kid's begging on the streets willing to do anything for money. I am not mocking poor Indian people but just telling the truth. "Sab ka saath sab ka vikas" as told by Mr 56 inch chest was no where to be seen. They seem to be excited to see that a Pakistani is in town:yk

Most interesting country I have visited is Morocco. Nice people and peaceful atmosphere. It further helped that they are Muslim so could relate to my political views.
 
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Once you get used to Pakistan, I don't think anything is worse for you :yk Just joking

I have been to many countries. I loved my three years in London, but I hated the weather. So out of all countries I visited, the country with the worst negative is the UK.
 
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My cousin told me that Cuba was one of the worst he's been to, literally said it was "Bakwaas"
 
is it worst than Calcutta?

Haven't visited Calcutta ever to comment about it.

Stayed in Lasalgaon for 3-4yrs when i was a kid. Started my school from there. It was those typical dry places with water scarcity. No toilets in houses back then but we were lucky to get a house with toilet attached and a well for us. Not to mention the pigs out there.......eeeeeww

It would be much better now i think.
 
Italy and USA.

Heard a couple of negative views on Italy, any reason why? My wife is quite keen on going there while we are still part of Europe and travel is simpler, but something about it puts me off for some reason. It looks beautiful, but as KKWC has said, it's the people that make a country and I'm unsure what the Italians are like in their own country.
 
Heard a couple of negative views on Italy, any reason why? My wife is quite keen on going there while we are still part of Europe and travel is simpler, but something about it puts me off for some reason. It looks beautiful, but as KKWC has said, it's the people that make a country and I'm unsure what the Italians are like in their own country.

Far dirtier than other European countries and the food is surprisingly bad. Didn't get to interact with the locals much so can't comment on that. If you are not into art, you are not missing out on much by not going there.
 
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