Would centuries by Younis Khan and Misbah-ul-Haq at the SCG revive their fledgling careers?

[Dr_Bassim]

As drinks break approaches, Younis looks like a calm and composed batsmen.

Their isn't much in the pitch, spin doesn't bother him and the pacers are not troubling him either.

As I said in my last analysis Younis looks like one innings away from striking a rich vein of form and this could be the innings.

As for Misbah, even though he looks finished, perhaps this docile pitch will help rejuvenate his career.

So that leaves the discussion.

Would a century by both of them, and Pakistan drawing their match Down Under help them in further prolonging their careers?

It would be rightly so, because then they can tour West Indies with confidence and the backing that they have performed?

Or would you still throw them out after match saving centuries?

Discuss.

 

[Abdullah719]

Rather, they can end on a high - good for them.

 

[Ellipsism]

Misbah, no.

Younus was always going to the Caribbean regardless if he performed in Aus or not.

 

[Slog]

Would be a good end for Misbah

YK is here till 10k no matter what

 

[AliMurtaza]

I would keep Younis for WI and Bangladesh regardless of his performance in Syndey. If you see his England, NZ and Aus scores, he has been there and there about scoring 20s and 30s. With Babar struggling, you need Younis to guide Misbah and maybe Babar's replacement.

Misbah has to go. He has been abysmal.

 

[Big Mac]

Would be a good end for Misbah

YK is here till 10k no matter what

Yep. Misbah will retire after this test, he looked like he had checked out mentally in Melbourne and I'd be shocked if he chose to continue.

Younus will continue because he wants that 10k and the PCB will give the reasoning that both of them retiring together would leave too big a hole to fill. That's obviously nonsense but still, that's what will be said.

P.S. I think OP meant flagging, not fledgling.

 

[Xoib]

Misbah will retire even if scores a double here YK is not going anywhere till he gets 10K

 

[Varun]

It'll provide an honourable ending, if anything.

For Misbah. Younis I don't believe will leave without his fair share of kicking and screaming.

 

[Junaids]

Only in Pakistan can a sportsman have a fledgling career at 42 or 43!

Seriously, for four tough away series in a row each of Younis and Misbah have failed 85% of the time. Do you want to retain a dysfunctional middle order?

 

[Dr_Bassim]

People are anxiously waiting for the end of Sydney test so Misbah can announce his retirement and are hoping that Younis follows suit.

I think it would be a troll of epic proportions if Misbah comes out and says "In light of the team's development I have decided to continue for the West Indies tour"

OR

"On request of PCB chairman Shehryar Khan I have decided to continue for betterment of team".

Imagine the condition of the fans !

 

[MenInG]

Fledgling for YK?

 

[Mamoon]

The Flat Track Bully isn't going anywhere yet, but Misbah will retire after his tour regardless of his performance here.

 

[Pantani]

It'll be a nice opportunity to bow out with izzat, if they both score hundreds

 

[Rafay Shafiq]

Steve Waugh scored century in his last test. One cannot decide retirement or otherwise on test test basis. It's not reactive decision but well thought.

It's unfair if Misbah ponder retirement after Melbourne and otherwise after Sydney. It indicates selfishness

 

[itsme]

Hope younis score 10k in this match somehow

 

[darksher]

The Flat Track Bully isn't going anywhere yet, but Misbah will retire after his tour regardless of his performance here.

You, my friend, are in for a big surprise if Misbah somehow scratches his way to a 100. Do you really believe a PAKISTANI batsman let alone someone of Misbah/YK's self-serving stature will choose to end on a high? No way in hell! He'll continue to be a burden on team in the near future unless he is dismissed cheaply in the next two outings. If not and he somehow manages to score a respectable amount of runs let alone a century in either innings, it'll dispel any contemplative thoughts he has about retirement, not to mention the mercurial PCB coming to his rescue and asking him to postpone his retirement plans for the "betterment of team" which is enough reason in itself for Misbah to reconsider his decision.

 

[Mamoon]

You, my friend, are in for a big surprise if Misbah somehow scratches his way to a 100. Do you really believe a PAKISTANI batsman let alone someone of Misbah/YK's self-serving stature will choose to end on a high? No way in hell! He'll continue to be a burden on team in the near future unless he is dismissed cheaply in the next two outings. If not and he somehow manages to score a respectable amount of runs let alone a century in either innings, it'll dispel any contemplative thoughts he has about retirement, not to mention the mercurial PCB coming to his rescue and asking him to postpone his retirement plans for the "betterment of team" which is enough reason in itself for Misbah to reconsider his decision.

Misbah is a gentleman. He retired after the 2015 World Cup when he could have easily played for longer, he didn't pressurize PCB to get into the 2014 and 2016 WT20 squads even though he was better than most batsmen who played for us in those tournaments.

 

[Asim2Good]

no it should not be .
its time for them to say Good bye.
this should b last test matches of misbah and YK can play til lhe complete s his 10k.

but knowing PCB, they ll keep on pushing Misbah to continue but hopefully he ll reject it and announce his retirement.

 

[darksher]

People are anxiously waiting for the end of Sydney test so Misbah can announce his retirement and are hoping that Younis follows suit.

I think it would be a troll of epic proportions if Misbah comes out and says "In light of the team's development I have decided to continue for the West Indies tour"

OR

"On request of PCB chairman Shehryar Khan I have decided to continue for betterment of team".

Imagine the condition of the fans !

I'm afraid that's how it'll turn out if he manages to score a decent amount of runs, on the contrary if he is dismissed cheaply in both outings, the vehement calls for his retirement will only grow louder which will leave him no choice but to retire. Its very much predictable if you're a Pakistani fan, our senior cricketers don't retire on a high, its simply not embedded in their genes. They will continue to torment the fans and blemish their pride and honor by being part of something where they're no longer needed unless the circumstances force them to quit or they're kicked out.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I believed YK will score runs compared to MISBAH and he has done that in the past too.. YK's technique is different from MISBAH and also has more experience than MISBAH....I did hope YK to score runs and a same 200 like he did in ENGLAND, Once MISBAH retires PCB should honour YK with captaincy for tests until he retire.. It is very obvious neither PCB can force him to retire nor he will quit looking at his poor performances... I believe Azhar the future test captain can learn a lot from YK captaincy,,, YK and Butt was touted as a future captains by Woolmer and both were good.. Unfortunately both were captains under the stupid management of IJAZ BUTT which has ruined a decade long cricket for PAK and keeps going.....

SCG a chance for MISBAH to end his career on a high just like the ODI CWC 2015 losing to the eventual champions after giving a fight and threatening to defeat...

 

[Square Drive]

Let's say Younis somehow gets 10k in this game - do you guys still think he'll tour WI? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

 

[Syed1]

If we have to win this match we have to score 700+ so all the runs we would need whereever they come from.

Misbah cannot score a 50 let alone a 100

 

[Speedster777]

Neither Younis nor Misbah are going to score big here. They've been totally exposed in this tour.

 

[Hawkeye]

Misbah will play till WI series and RETIRE on a high there.

I'M guessing he's not going after Sydney. Fine with me. But I would've preferred a retirement at scg.

If he was to retire it would've been announced by now .

 

[coy0607]

Misbah has just 1 century in the past 14 months!!
so I highly doubt he is going to turn up a second one here

if he does, good for him. But still doesn't change the fact that there is no place in this team for him

 

[R0H1T]

Steve Waugh scored century in his last test. One cannot decide retirement or otherwise on test test basis. It's not reactive decision but well thought.

It's unfair if Misbah ponder retirement after Melbourne and otherwise after Sydney. It indicates selfishness

He never scored hundred in his last test, a 40 & an 80 but he did save the test albeit with some help from the neutral umpires & Parthiv IIRC.

Misbah has a great chance to go out on a high, Younis though would likely overstay his welcome.

 

[Blistering Barnacle]

One thing I dislike, and which YK himself has remarked on, is the lumping together of players by people on this forum. It's like Umar and Shehzad - as if they are one unit in terms of performance.

Similary, people do it with YK and Misbah.

Newsflash - in each case the two being lumped together is very very silly. YK is an all time great for Pak. Misbah is not. Akmal is way more talented with a much better array of stokes than Ahmed and there's no doubt about it.

So please peeps stop lumping them together.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

One thing I dislike, and which YK himself has remarked on, is the lumping together of players by people on this forum. It's like Umar and Shehzad - as if they are one unit in terms of performance.

Similary, people do it with YK and Misbah.

Newsflash - in each case the two being lumped together is very very silly. YK is an all time great for Pak. Misbah is not. Akmal is way more talented with a much better array of stokes than Ahmed and there's no doubt about it.

So please peeps stop lumping them together.

The two have not been lumped together because of their skills.

YK is rightfully a Pakistani ATG and borderline ATG as well while Misbah is nowhere close.

However, the two have been lumped on the basis of declining reflexes and slow age. If you aren't going to lump two 40 year olds at the twilight of their career , on the basis of the fear, that their performances might get lost out, then it's an injustice to one over the other.

They are both past their prime and deserve to be lumped together.

Shehzad and Umar Akmal being lumped together is more because of both having the same attitude rather than skill set (which admittedly the talented Umar has more).

People are not lumped together performance wise only.

 

[shaz619]

In the 12 away wins since Younis Khans debut, he played in 7 of those games and made notable contributions in 5 of those wins where he averaged 114 across Auckland, Old Trafford, Kingston, Port Elizabeth and the Oval.

 

[godzilla]

i hope they'll both stay on - not that it means anything, but im not convinced they are the worst two in the top six.

either way its not their decision, or mickeys - its the pcb in conjunction with the media. the lack of any foresight, professionalism or planning from the utterly inept pcb has left too large a gaping hole to fill. there isnt even back up for the middle order that has been blooded, or sent on regular a tours.

whoever it is will be catapulted into the deep end along with an inevitable long adjustment period, and concurrently will have to undergo a trial by intellect-poor media, brainless bandwaggoning fans, and will more than likely not even be the best talent in the country anyway.

when these two pakistani heroes do go, it will just usher on another ten year rebuilding phase of utter disappointment. like the past fifteen year rebuilding phase of disappointment.

unfortunately there is no rebuilding or any kind going on at the board level where all the responsibility lies. apart from their burgeoning bank vaults of course.

 

[MMHS]

YK can definitely continue - will he? I don't think that he'll leave before 10K. However, he is definitely not the worst in that top 6. Besides, he is not going to take AUS, ENG & SAF pacers in 2 years time after this Test; while I am sure even at 44, pacers won't find it easy against him in UAE. Personally, I think, he should retire after WI tour. PAK's next few assignments are WI, BD, SRL, SAF & away to ENG - may be there'll be some soft series with ZIM as well. Which means, if he retires after WI, couple of players can be groomed for a year before 2018 ENG tour, later NZ at UAE & SAF away.

Can Misbah continue? I think he can. Should he? - I don't think so. He can score some runs definitely before the ENG tour in 2018, but I found him mentally absent in the field, may be he is not enjoying the game any more. Ideally, he should retire after SCG, so that next Captain can take a new team to a mid level series in WI - it won't be easy tour, but it'll be easier than AUS, ENG, SAF, NZ, IND for sure; which means, softest away tours barring ZIM, and easier than few home series as well. Will he? I don't know - hope he does, for such a dignified career, it doesn't look good to drag that like this.

 

[MRSN]

for those that make YK look like Misbah. YK as a batsman is miles ahead of Misbah. YK will certainly finish as one of Pak's greats while Misbah we all know will finish his career as an average batsman.

 

[MRSN]

One thing I dislike, and which YK himself has remarked on, is the lumping together of players by people on this forum. It's like Umar and Shehzad - as if they are one unit in terms of performance.

Similary, people do it with YK and Misbah.

Newsflash - in each case the two being lumped together is very very silly. YK is an all time great for Pak. Misbah is not. Akmal is way more talented with a much better array of stokes than Ahmed and there's no doubt about it.

So please peeps stop lumping them together.

I agree YK is miles ahead and bigger batsman than Misbah but I wish he could retire too after achieving his 10k feat. may be YK is playing for his 10k feat but what exactly is Misbah playing for? The guy is just waiting for YK to make a call. If YK says he will retire tomorrow I'm sure Misbah will say same without any delay.

 

[MRSN]

YK can definitely continue - will he? I don't think that he'll leave before 10K. However, he is definitely not the worst in that top 6. Besides, he is not going to take AUS, ENG & SAF pacers in 2 years time after this Test; while I am sure even at 44, pacers won't find it easy against him in UAE. Personally, I think, he should retire after WI tour. PAK's next few assignments are WI, BD, SRL, SAF & away to ENG - may be there'll be some soft series with ZIM as well. Which means, if he retires after WI, couple of players can be groomed for a year before 2018 ENG tour, later NZ at UAE & SAF away.

Can Misbah continue? I think he can. Should he? - I don't think so. He can score some runs definitely before the ENG tour in 2018, but I found him mentally absent in the field, may be he is not enjoying the game any more. Ideally, he should retire after SCG, so that next Captain can take a new team to a mid level series in WI - it won't be easy tour, but it'll be easier than AUS, ENG, SAF, NZ, IND for sure; which means, softest away tours barring ZIM, and easier than few home series as well. Will he? I don't know - hope he does, for such a dignified career, it doesn't look good to drag that like this.

to be honest, in a real world both should have been sidelined from ODIs after 2011 world cup debacle and from tests after embarrassing white wash against SA.

 

[tanveer din]

YK can definitely continue - will he? I don't think that he'll leave before 10K. However, he is definitely not the worst in that top 6. Besides, he is not going to take AUS, ENG & SAF pacers in 2 years time after this Test; while I am sure even at 44, pacers won't find it easy against him in UAE. Personally, I think, he should retire after WI tour. PAK's next few assignments are WI, BD, SRL, SAF & away to ENG - may be there'll be some soft series with ZIM as well. Which means, if he retires after WI, couple of players can be groomed for a year before 2018 ENG tour, later NZ at UAE & SAF away.

Can Misbah continue? I think he can. Should he? - I don't think so. He can score some runs definitely before the ENG tour in 2018, but I found him mentally absent in the field, may be he is not enjoying the game any more. Ideally, he should retire after SCG, so that next Captain can take a new team to a mid level series in WI - it won't be easy tour, but it'll be easier than AUS, ENG, SAF, NZ, IND for sure; which means, softest away tours barring ZIM, and easier than few home series as well. Will he? I don't know - hope he does, for such a dignified career, it doesn't look good to drag that like this.

You forget Australia series in UAE 2018

 

[AlphaFighter]

for those that make YK look like Misbah. YK as a batsman is miles ahead of Misbah. YK will certainly finish as one of Pak's greats while Misbah we all know will finish his career as an average batsman.

No honor in being ahead of Misbah, he is just that pathetic a batsman.

 

[MMHS]

You forget Australia series in UAE 2018

that's after ENG 2018, in sep/oct.

 

[Slog]

One thing I dislike, and which YK himself has remarked on, is the lumping together of players by people on this forum. It's like Umar and Shehzad - as if they are one unit in terms of performance.

Similary, people do it with YK and Misbah.

Newsflash - in each case the two being lumped together is very very silly. YK is an all time great for Pak. Misbah is not. Akmal is way more talented with a much better array of stokes than Ahmed and there's no doubt about it.

So please peeps stop lumping them together.

Yes, I remember him commenting on that and it was in very poor taste. And what really was poor that he said even as a person I am different (read, better) which is arguable.

But its not exclusively a Pakistani issue.

Sangakarra and Jayawardane were often lumped together by many experts and ex cricketers eventhough on pure batsmanship and impact, Sangakarra was miles ahead of Mahela.

The two have not been lumped together because of their skills.

YK is rightfully a Pakistani ATG and borderline ATG as well while Misbah is nowhere close.

However, the two have been lumped on the basis of declining reflexes and slow age. If you aren't going to lump two 40 year olds at the twilight of their career , on the basis of the fear, that their performances might get lost out, then it's an injustice to one over the other.

They are both past their prime and deserve to be lumped together.

Shehzad and Umar Akmal being lumped together is more because of both having the same attitude rather than skill set (which admittedly the talented Umar has more).

People are not lumped together performance wise only.

Tbh YK and Misbah are being lumped together since 2011 since both were doing well in UAE

 

[Mamoon]

Not interested in dead rubber performances. Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler: Pakistan's greatest FTB was not going to miss out.

Now he can go on and fail in testing conditions for the next 10 innings before making hay when the sun shines.

 

[Mamoon]

When the series was live, he failed in all but one innings. What revival are we talking about.

 

[AliMurtaza]

I will still maintain the Misbah should retire but Pak still needs Younis for the next 2 series at least. He has never looked completely out of depth like Misbah even with his patchy 20/30s.

This series has shown that Babar and Sami will need time and so will Misbah's replacement. Pak needs Younis to guide them even if he is scoring patchy runs.

People may not realize right now but Pak can be rolled over by Bangladesh spinners if they make pitches like they did for England. Babar is not the best against spinners and neither is Asad. Pak will need Younis guiding the middle order.

 

[Mamoon]

Let's say Younis somehow gets 10k in this game - do you guys still think he'll tour WI? [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

He said earlier this year that he wants to play for two more years. I hope he changes his mind and retires after this match.

 

[Xoib]

Not interested in dead rubber performances. Flat pitch, sunshine, two spinners and a trundler: Pakistan's greatest FTB was not going to miss out.

Now he can go on and fail in testing conditions for the next 10 innings before making hay when the sun shines.

say what you will but his performance on these away tours is on par with Ponting, Sachin,Kallis in their final hour maybe even better that does not make him superior to these blokes but one just wonders how his pedigree would have looked had he not missed those 12 away tests when he was still under 35.

 

[Zaz]

Yk isnt going anywhere for another year or so and nor he should Hes proven theres still some fight in the old dog yet Even tho hes on the decline hes still probably the 2nd best test bat in the team

Misbah tho is finished He just doesnt seem to have any fight or performance left in him anymore He should make way after this series

 

[Convict]

Wasim was interviewed during the Big Bash by Gilchrist and Fleming and was asked about Misbah's future and basically refused to say anything either way

 

[Square Drive]

He said earlier this year that he wants to play for two more years. I hope he changes his mind and retires after this match.

Looking at our easy schedule next year, he might just want to push for 11k.

Either way I think he'll stay to fix his record in WI, at the very least.

 

[Mamoon]

Looking at our easy schedule next year, he might just want to push for 11k.

Either way I think he'll stay to fix his record in WI, at the very least.

Yes, he should also stay till 2018 so that he can fix his record in South Africa..

 

[Square Drive]

Yes, he should also stay till 2018 so that he can fix his record in South Africa..

Lol he knows he'll fail there.

But fixing his record in WI shouldn't be too hard and thus he'll stay to do it.