Yasir Shah becomes first spinner in 140 years to take a 5-wicket haul in five consecutive matches

[sachin100]

after him ashwin is second worse with bowling avg of 54

u said it wont be worse than ashwin .i said it is the worse period .

if u r so called great with worst record ever is the benchmark then ashwin will never acheive such feats

 

[saeed5646]

So Ashwin is better than Yasir.

no yasir have out perform in england so even steven

 

[saeed5646]

u said it wont be worse than ashwin .i said it is the worse period .

if u r so called great with worst record ever is the benchmark then ashwin will never acheive such feats

both have bad overseas record and no one is better both were terrible in eng ,aus

 

[sachin100]

no yasir have out perform in england so even steven

thats what we r saying both has nothing to be proud of records in main overseas countries .

 

[saeed5646]

thats what we r saying both has nothing to be proud of records in main overseas countries .

now i agree with you

 

[shaz619]

Ashwin would average close to 600 during days 1-3/4 [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] you got to be an absolute idiot to think the wicket would aid him on any level during those days in the UAE, he's just not on Yasir's level which is why he has never won you a Test outside WI/SL/India and also why he does not have five 5fers in a row even on pitches that help him

 

[mummad]

There multiple threads..one thread calls him a GOAT. Any way he is overrated by Pakistani supporters but its understandable he is the only good bowler you h

 

[Napa]

Ashwin would average close to 600 during days 1-3/4 [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] you got to be an absolute idiot to think the wicket would aid him on any level during those days in the UAE, he's just not on Yasir's level which is why he has never won you a Test outside WI/SL/India and also why he does not have five 5fers in a row even on pitches that help him

Let me assure you that Yasir would not have got any of those 5-fers if he had Jadeja as a teammate.

Also, drop this nonsense about Yasir being better than Ashwin outside the SC. Yasir averaged 84 in Aus and infinity in NZ last series.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Let me assure you that Yasir would not have got any of those 5-fers if he had Jadeja as a teammate.

Also, drop this nonsense about Yasir being better than Ashwin outside the SC. Yasir averaged 84 in Aus and infinity in NZ last series.

Yasir does deserve high praise for this record.

Ashwin narrowly missed this record due to rain.

5fer in Mohali 2015, 4fer in Bangalore (rain washed out - Jaddu took 4), double 5fer in Nagpur, 5fer in Delhi, 5fer in Antigua, 5fer in Sabina Park.

In the game preceding Mohali, took a 4fer in Lanka.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Yasir does deserve high praise for this record.

Ashwin narrowly missed this record due to rain.

5fer in Mohali 2015, 4fer in Bangalore (rain washed out - Jaddu took 4), double 5fer in Nagpur, 5fer in Delhi, 5fer in Antigua, 5fer in Sabina Park.

In the game preceding Mohali, took a 4fer in Lanka.

Before that, 5fers in 3 consecutive games and before that 4fer in Australia.

 

[Napa]

Yasir does deserve high praise for this record.

Ashwin narrowly missed this record due to rain.

5fer in Mohali 2015, 4fer in Bangalore (rain washed out - Jaddu took 4), double 5fer in Nagpur, 5fer in Delhi, 5fer in Antigua, 5fer in Sabina Park.

In the game preceding Mohali, took a 4fer in Lanka.

Ashwin's averages in the games you mention:
Mohali 10.2
Bangalore 17.5
Nagpur 6.4 and 9.4
Delhi 12.2
Antigua 13.9
Sabina Park 10.4

These are numbers you would expect from someone taking 5-fers. Yasir's average of 30.7 shows a lack of his fellow bowlers ability to get wkts.

 

[shaz619]

Let me assure you that Yasir would not have got any of those 5-fers if he had Jadeja as a teammate.

Also, drop this nonsense about Yasir being better than Ashwin outside the SC. Yasir averaged 84 in Aus and infinity in NZ last series.

He would have 10 5fers in 5 consecutive games with jadeja easing the workload on these lifeless wickets

Nah Ashwin was trash every where including AUS away from his comfort and also failed to win two tests in England

 

[sachin100]

He would have 10 5fers in 5 consecutive games with jadeja easing the workload on these lifeless wickets

Nah Ashwin was trash every where including AUS away from his comfort and also failed to win two tests in England

just because u dont have good spinners and other good bowlers it doesnt mean india should play ashwin alone for u r sake of comparison with ashwin

if there is a good support bowler to yasir he would not be getting so many wickets like now

 

[AlizeeFan]

Ashwin would average close to 600 during days 1-3/4 [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] you got to be an absolute idiot to think the wicket would aid him on any level during those days in the UAE, he's just not on Yasir's level which is why he has never won you a Test outside WI/SL/India and also why he does not have five 5fers in a row even on pitches that help him

In matches when Ashwin and Herath both played
Ashwin's average 22
Herath's average 40

In matches where Yasir and Herath played
Herath's average 26
Yasir's average 21

If anything Ashwin would have been averaging in teens on such pitches.

 

[big_gamer007]

Thread was supposed to celebrate Yasir's achievement however as usual it turned into Pakistan vs India..

Kudos to Yasir whatever anyone may say he's the first spinner in 140 years to achieve this stat so all credit to him..

 

[Big Mac]

Herath would have done it if this was a 5 test series

 

[Syed1]

In matches when Ashwin and Herath both played
Ashwin's average 22
Herath's average 40

In matches where Yasir and Herath played
Herath's average 26
Yasir's average 21

If anything Ashwin would have been averaging in teens on such pitches.

India puts Ash on the bench in away matches...so I'm not sure if he would even be playing

 

[cricketjoshila]

India puts Ash on the bench in away matches...so I'm not sure if he would even be playing

May be because India has a Jadeja to fall back on and competition is tough?Who do you have exactly?

 

[Syed1]

May be because India has a Jadeja to fall back on and competition is tough?Who do you have exactly?

So Ash isn't even the preferred away spinner for India and he is ATG

 

[cricketjoshila]

So Ash isn't even the preferred away spinner for India and he is ATG

You can have more than 1 world class spinner.

Do you know what is ATG? All Time Great. Ashwin isnt a ATG, he on his way though.But he is certainly a very good and a world class spinner.

 

[Abdullah719]

In matches when Ashwin and Herath both played
Ashwin's average 22
Herath's average 40

In matches where Yasir and Herath played
Herath's average 26
Yasir's average 21

If anything Ashwin would have been averaging in teens on such pitches.

All this shows me is that Yasir edges Ashwin while Indian play Herath a lot better.

 

[shaz619]

You can have more than 1 world class spinner.

Do you know what is ATG? All Time Great. Ashwin isnt a ATG, he on his way though.But he is certainly a very good and a world class spinner.

ATG of rank turners. Yes Rank Ashwin is already ATG in that regard

 

[Napa]

In matches when Ashwin and Herath both played
Ashwin's average 22
Herath's average 40

In matches where Yasir and Herath played
Herath's average 26
Yasir's average 21

If anything Ashwin would have been averaging in teens on such pitches.

All this shows me is that Yasir edges Ashwin while Indian play Herath a lot better.

Difficult to interpret this data. Note that there are 8 factors here: Herath, SL batting, Ashwin, Yasir, Indian batting, Pakistani batting, wkts India and SL played on, and wkts Pakistan and SL played on.

2 factors are common, Herath and SL batting.

Ashwin beats Herath's average by 18, while Yasir beats Herath by 5. Removing the common factors from the picture, it could mean that Ashwin is better than Yasir, hence the difference.

However, it could also mean that Indian batting is stronger than Pakistani batting.

The difference in averages between Ashwin and Yasir (22 vs. 21) could be due to Yasir being a better bowler, or it could simply mean the wkts Ashwin played on it is harder to get batsmen out (which would be supported by Herath's avg of 40 against Indian batsmen).

Basically, there are too many confounding factors here to draw any conclusions without more data.