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"You can change the coaches and players but deep down the problems will remain the same" : Misbah
Speaking on a TV show:
Some very interesting Discussion is taking place, Wahab Riaz has gone all guns blazing. Wahab asked that why has the selection committee been selecting players without any experience and why were the experienced players especially bowlers were ignored. He particularly asked about Musa and Azam Khan
Misbah's said that back in the Australia tour, the wickets that domestic cricket had were bad pitches that were only producing 120-130 bowlers and in Australia 120-130ish bowlers cant survive as grounds are big and you need fitness. We took Imran Khan and Sohail Khan with us but they didnt have the fitness for those pitches. Plus, at the time domestic cricket did not produce bowlers that could had been taken.
Musa, Hasnain and Naseem had the pace.
Waqar Younis got abit defensive
Waqar Younis said that if we look the past history, me and and Waseem akram got selected after barely playing any first-class matches. We have traditionally produced bowlers like this
Wahab in reply said that you cant keep on using yourself and Waseem as an example and ignore first-class experience all together.
Waqar in reply said that all other bowlers like Umar Gul, Wahab himself and many others came in like this
Wahab Riaz again replied that no that is not true, him, Shabir Ahmad, Umar Gul, Sami and many others came into the team after serving in 30-50 matches before making there debut. Amir was maybe an anomaly who came straight in. And as we came in with experience we also performed well internationally because of that domestic experience.
Waqar became very defensively and couldn't accept that logic, this exposed Waqar Younis's thinking. He even went on to say that we gave Tabish Khan a match after his experience.
Waseem Akram replied that Tabish Khan should had debuted 10 years back and we bought him 10 years late, to which Waqar said yes if we could had dropped Wahab Riaz (as a joke)
Waseem Akram also added an interesting point that this team also took Kashif Bhatti with them and than dropped him after not playing him, so what was the point of taking him if you not gonna play him. This way you destroy there confidence.
On Why they left before the World Cup?
Waseem Akram said that if PCB wanted to remove both of them, than you could have done after the world cup. Rameez should had waited and judged the performance before making any such decision.
He also said Misbah and Waqar did work hard on the players as i saw in England. Media went personal against them only because their favorites were not selected.
Misbah said that after the end of every series, we like to do cosmetic surgeries and keep changing coaches, but the problems would stay the same. The PCB always needs a scapegoat, they dont see how there had been issues like being quarantined for 15 days and not getting any match practice. Coaches would keep on changing, but that is not gonna solve our problems as the problems would still exist.
Misbah also said that the squad that was changed after taking U-turn wasn't even needed had they announced this new team back than and not take a U-turn. Better decisions that were taken later could had been taken before.
Waqar said that I have talked about this many times, Misbah is speaking out first time.
Ad hocs when are place they do such things. You could see how Waseem Khan and Bradburn also left, because they like to make a scapegoat.
Lets hope and pray the mindset that Rameez bhai has come out is successful.
==
Former head coach and captain Misbahul Haq has opened up about the workings of Pakistan cricket, while citing scapegoats and U-turns.
Misbah resigned as the head coach of the Men in Green, on September 6, despite a year left in his three-year contract due to “considerable time away from family in a bio-secure environment”.
Speaking publicly for the first time about his resignation, Misbah said that looking for scapegoats is a norm in Pakistan cricket.
“In Pakistan, we only focus on one thing and that is the result. We don’t go beyond that and focus on things like our players and their skill development,” said Misbah on A Sports.
“After losing a match or series we look for someone as a scapegoat to save face. Nothing will change if we continue with this cosmetic surgery. You can change the coaches and players but deep down the problems will remain the same,” he added.
He also took a dig at the changes made by the PCB selection committee for the T20 World Cup, which saw the return of veteran all-rounder Shoaib Malik and wicketkeeper-batter Sarfaraz Ahmed, among others.
“First you made changes to the team but 10 days later you took a U-turn and brought the excluded players back in the fold,” he concluded.
==
Quotes from program:
Waqar on Hassan Ali
"The good thing about Hassan Ali is that he is very strong minded. He made a promise to himself to make a comeback and he fulfilled that"
"All our young cricketers should play 4 day cricket because when you do that, you improve in one-day cricket and in T20 cricket as well"
"Hassan has proved this - he played 8-9 4-day games and his fitness improved and he is now a different bowler because of that"
Misbah responding to Wahab making a sly dig at Misbah saying why are we not bringing experienced 4-day players into teams (Asking Wasim but aimed at Misbah)
"In those days (Wasim Akram gave example of Musa Khan's selection for Australia tour), we had this problem that such experienced bowlers werent there and we did take some with us too; The problem is that they did not have the fitness for bowling the requisite amount of overs in Tests, especially in Australia"
"As Wahab knows, if you have an ideal scenario where you have bowlers who have performed well in 4-days and have fitness and pace then we can take such bowlers on the team but when you don't have that available, then what?"
"As those who have followed Pakistan cricket over the past few years know that even bowlers bowling at 120-130kph performed very well but the sorts of pitches we had in Australia, those bowlers would struggle"
"So only option for us to bring in youngsters like Naseem Shah, Musa Khan, Hasnain who played well in T20s also; We also thought that these bowlers were a good investment for the future, so we wanted to groom them and they would perform better"
Wahab Riaz:
"This is not just about bowlers but also batsmen too; Take example of Azam Khan, yes he is talented but he was seletced first but then suddenly he is out of the squad, same with Danish Aziz. We seem to bring people in, and if they dont perform once they are out of the system"
Waqar Younis responding to Wahab:
"Looking at history of Pakistan cricket, Wasim Akram played his first FC game against New Zealand; I played 4-5 FC games before I got picked, and also Mohammad Amir and Umar Gul and many others were picked like that"
Wahab Riaz:
"Only 2 legends like Wasim and Waqar whose records speak for themselves have performed well for Pakista but others like Shoaib Akhtar, M Asif, M Sami and myself - all played atleast 30-40 FC games behind them"
Misbah-ul-Haq:
"In Pakistan we don't look beyond results, we dont deep dive into it to see how the players are being developed, where you are now in terms of player skills and where you are going with it; Nothing of that sort is considered such that after end of every series they look for one or more guys to sacrifice (Muh makes sign of throat being slit); If you keep on doing cosmetic surgery, then nothing good will come out of it. You can keep on replacing players and coaches but deep down, the problems will remain the same"
"So we go to New Zealand to play international cricket whilst being locked in rooms for 14 days then when we lose, the coach has to answer for that; Then you go to England, after being put in rooms in Karachi for 10 days and then you are stuck in rooms for PSL and you dont have much competitive cricket to play also, then you expect Misbah and Waqar to cast some magic spell and then we will win - such things need to be looked at and work needs to be done or this will keep on happening to us"
Waqar Younis
"This seems to the same team that we left - you took out some people but then brought back the same guys again; Lets hope and pray that the mindset and zeal with which Ramiz Raja has come into power will see success for Pakistan"
Speaking on a TV show:
Some very interesting Discussion is taking place, Wahab Riaz has gone all guns blazing. Wahab asked that why has the selection committee been selecting players without any experience and why were the experienced players especially bowlers were ignored. He particularly asked about Musa and Azam Khan
Misbah's said that back in the Australia tour, the wickets that domestic cricket had were bad pitches that were only producing 120-130 bowlers and in Australia 120-130ish bowlers cant survive as grounds are big and you need fitness. We took Imran Khan and Sohail Khan with us but they didnt have the fitness for those pitches. Plus, at the time domestic cricket did not produce bowlers that could had been taken.
Musa, Hasnain and Naseem had the pace.
Waqar Younis got abit defensive
Waqar Younis said that if we look the past history, me and and Waseem akram got selected after barely playing any first-class matches. We have traditionally produced bowlers like this
Wahab in reply said that you cant keep on using yourself and Waseem as an example and ignore first-class experience all together.
Waqar in reply said that all other bowlers like Umar Gul, Wahab himself and many others came in like this
Wahab Riaz again replied that no that is not true, him, Shabir Ahmad, Umar Gul, Sami and many others came into the team after serving in 30-50 matches before making there debut. Amir was maybe an anomaly who came straight in. And as we came in with experience we also performed well internationally because of that domestic experience.
Waqar became very defensively and couldn't accept that logic, this exposed Waqar Younis's thinking. He even went on to say that we gave Tabish Khan a match after his experience.
Waseem Akram replied that Tabish Khan should had debuted 10 years back and we bought him 10 years late, to which Waqar said yes if we could had dropped Wahab Riaz (as a joke)
Waseem Akram also added an interesting point that this team also took Kashif Bhatti with them and than dropped him after not playing him, so what was the point of taking him if you not gonna play him. This way you destroy there confidence.
On Why they left before the World Cup?
Waseem Akram said that if PCB wanted to remove both of them, than you could have done after the world cup. Rameez should had waited and judged the performance before making any such decision.
He also said Misbah and Waqar did work hard on the players as i saw in England. Media went personal against them only because their favorites were not selected.
Misbah said that after the end of every series, we like to do cosmetic surgeries and keep changing coaches, but the problems would stay the same. The PCB always needs a scapegoat, they dont see how there had been issues like being quarantined for 15 days and not getting any match practice. Coaches would keep on changing, but that is not gonna solve our problems as the problems would still exist.
Misbah also said that the squad that was changed after taking U-turn wasn't even needed had they announced this new team back than and not take a U-turn. Better decisions that were taken later could had been taken before.
Waqar said that I have talked about this many times, Misbah is speaking out first time.
Ad hocs when are place they do such things. You could see how Waseem Khan and Bradburn also left, because they like to make a scapegoat.
Lets hope and pray the mindset that Rameez bhai has come out is successful.
==
Former head coach and captain Misbahul Haq has opened up about the workings of Pakistan cricket, while citing scapegoats and U-turns.
Misbah resigned as the head coach of the Men in Green, on September 6, despite a year left in his three-year contract due to “considerable time away from family in a bio-secure environment”.
Speaking publicly for the first time about his resignation, Misbah said that looking for scapegoats is a norm in Pakistan cricket.
“In Pakistan, we only focus on one thing and that is the result. We don’t go beyond that and focus on things like our players and their skill development,” said Misbah on A Sports.
“After losing a match or series we look for someone as a scapegoat to save face. Nothing will change if we continue with this cosmetic surgery. You can change the coaches and players but deep down the problems will remain the same,” he added.
He also took a dig at the changes made by the PCB selection committee for the T20 World Cup, which saw the return of veteran all-rounder Shoaib Malik and wicketkeeper-batter Sarfaraz Ahmed, among others.
“First you made changes to the team but 10 days later you took a U-turn and brought the excluded players back in the fold,” he concluded.
==
Quotes from program:
Waqar on Hassan Ali
"The good thing about Hassan Ali is that he is very strong minded. He made a promise to himself to make a comeback and he fulfilled that"
"All our young cricketers should play 4 day cricket because when you do that, you improve in one-day cricket and in T20 cricket as well"
"Hassan has proved this - he played 8-9 4-day games and his fitness improved and he is now a different bowler because of that"
Misbah responding to Wahab making a sly dig at Misbah saying why are we not bringing experienced 4-day players into teams (Asking Wasim but aimed at Misbah)
"In those days (Wasim Akram gave example of Musa Khan's selection for Australia tour), we had this problem that such experienced bowlers werent there and we did take some with us too; The problem is that they did not have the fitness for bowling the requisite amount of overs in Tests, especially in Australia"
"As Wahab knows, if you have an ideal scenario where you have bowlers who have performed well in 4-days and have fitness and pace then we can take such bowlers on the team but when you don't have that available, then what?"
"As those who have followed Pakistan cricket over the past few years know that even bowlers bowling at 120-130kph performed very well but the sorts of pitches we had in Australia, those bowlers would struggle"
"So only option for us to bring in youngsters like Naseem Shah, Musa Khan, Hasnain who played well in T20s also; We also thought that these bowlers were a good investment for the future, so we wanted to groom them and they would perform better"
Wahab Riaz:
"This is not just about bowlers but also batsmen too; Take example of Azam Khan, yes he is talented but he was seletced first but then suddenly he is out of the squad, same with Danish Aziz. We seem to bring people in, and if they dont perform once they are out of the system"
Waqar Younis responding to Wahab:
"Looking at history of Pakistan cricket, Wasim Akram played his first FC game against New Zealand; I played 4-5 FC games before I got picked, and also Mohammad Amir and Umar Gul and many others were picked like that"
Wahab Riaz:
"Only 2 legends like Wasim and Waqar whose records speak for themselves have performed well for Pakista but others like Shoaib Akhtar, M Asif, M Sami and myself - all played atleast 30-40 FC games behind them"
Misbah-ul-Haq:
"In Pakistan we don't look beyond results, we dont deep dive into it to see how the players are being developed, where you are now in terms of player skills and where you are going with it; Nothing of that sort is considered such that after end of every series they look for one or more guys to sacrifice (Muh makes sign of throat being slit); If you keep on doing cosmetic surgery, then nothing good will come out of it. You can keep on replacing players and coaches but deep down, the problems will remain the same"
"So we go to New Zealand to play international cricket whilst being locked in rooms for 14 days then when we lose, the coach has to answer for that; Then you go to England, after being put in rooms in Karachi for 10 days and then you are stuck in rooms for PSL and you dont have much competitive cricket to play also, then you expect Misbah and Waqar to cast some magic spell and then we will win - such things need to be looked at and work needs to be done or this will keep on happening to us"
Waqar Younis
"This seems to the same team that we left - you took out some people but then brought back the same guys again; Lets hope and pray that the mindset and zeal with which Ramiz Raja has come into power will see success for Pakistan"
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