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Your XI to show for "Cricket is a Gentleman's Sport"

ChinMusic

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its always said that "Cricket is a gentleman sport" but what is your XI to show for it

few i can think on top of my head are

Misbah
Younis
Dravid
Arvinda DeSilva
Imran
Martin Crowe
Gilchrist
Kallis
ABD
Walsh
Cook
Malinga

any more you want to add or any1 from here to take out?
 
Will remove Imran and add SRT, 2 Indians 2 Pakistanis.... Team is balanced now.
 
I will add Dhoni instead of Gilchrist. Don't see an extreme sledger like Gilchrist as Gentleman.
 
Imran was a great player, no doubt about that. But the man had an ego almost as big as the Atlantic ocean. Saeed Anwar would be my first pick from Pakistan.
 
Sharif XI -

Hashim
Saeed Anwar
Williamson
Hussey
Younis
Misbah (C)
Watling (K)
Murali
Pollock
Bond
Vaas
 
Alastair Cook
Adam Gilchrist
Rahul Dravid
Younis Khan
Misbah Ul Haq
MS Dhoni (c)

Muralitharan


Can't think of any gentlemanly fast bowlers
 
Gentlemen Test XI

A. Cook
A. Flower
R. Dravid
A. Border
Misbah
A. Gilchrist
J. Garner
S. Bond
S. Harmison
C. Walsh
M. Muralitharan
 
Imran was no gentleman during his playing days. He's sobered down a lot more after retirement.
 
Cook
Amla
Williamson
Sangakara
Dravid
Kallis
Msd
Murali
Pollock
Waqar
Bond

Was hard to think of fast bowlers who were gentlemen :misbah
 
Sangakkara was a proven cheat on the field, and Waqar owes more than half of his career to ball-tampering.
 
Sangakkara was a proven cheat on the field, and Waqar owes more than half of his career to ball-tampering.

Do you have any proof for the statement about Waqar or do facts, like stats, not matter?
 
Do you have any proof for the statement about Waqar or do facts, like stats, not matter?

Ball-tampering was rampant in the 80's. Look it up, you will find it everywhere on historical accounts of the players and the viewers of that time as well as the admittance of the ball-tamperers itself. It still happens at every level and all teams do it, but back then, it was easier to get away with it. The ball-tampering technique with bottle caps was invented by Sarfraz who passed it to Imran who passed it Wasim and Waqar. The difference was that the Pakistani bowlers were simply better than their counterparts at utilizing it. What separated Waqar from Imran and Wasim was the fact that he wasn't very skilled with the new ball. Imran had an outstanding conventional in-swinger, while Wasim is arguably the most skillful pacer of all time. Waqar though, was very reliant on reverse-swing but he was admittedly better at it than any pacer in history.

Considering the fact the ball-tampering is nothing but cheating, any cricketer whose succeed was largely down to this form of cheating cannot be considered a 'gentleman'. He wasn't a match-fixer like Wasim and didn't attempt to get under the skin of the opposition like Imran (probably because he wasn't good enough to do so, given the clueless captain that he was), but he was still a cheat.
 
If "all teams do it..." then it cannot be called cheating. These historical accounts you speak of also talk about the otherwordly quality of Sobers, Bradman, Miller, etc but apparently, they did not know any better when it came to judging the quality of those players.

Unless you have solid proof that Waqar was a ball tamperer and that he would have half the number of wickets that he does without it, I would suggest you refrain from making serious allegations like this. Calling a Pakistani legend a cheat without any proof is pretty pathetic.

Wonder why you never called James Anderson a cheat when you were championing him against Steyn for all those years.
 
If "all teams do it..." then it cannot be called cheating. These historical accounts you speak of also talk about the otherwordly quality of Sobers, Bradman, Miller, etc but apparently, they did not know any better when it came to judging the quality of those players.

Unless you have solid proof that Waqar was a ball tamperer and that he would have half the number of wickets that he does without it, I would suggest you refrain from making serious allegations like this. Calling a Pakistani legend a cheat without any proof is pretty pathetic.

Wonder why you never called James Anderson a cheat when you were championing him against Steyn for all those years.

Only those people who started watching cricket in 2000s need a proof for that.
 
Cook
Gavaskar
Amla
Tendulkar
Misbah*
Kallis
Dhoni+
Vettori
Pollock
Vaas
Walsh
 
If "all teams do it..." then it cannot be called cheating. These historical accounts you speak of also talk about the otherwordly quality of Sobers, Bradman, Miller, etc but apparently, they did not know any better when it came to judging the quality of those players.

Unless you have solid proof that Waqar was a ball tamperer and that he would have half the number of wickets that he does without it, I would suggest you refrain from making serious allegations like this. Calling a Pakistani legend a cheat without any proof is pretty pathetic.

Wonder why you never called James Anderson a cheat when you were championing him against Steyn for all those years.


Nah tampering happened it was part and parcel of the game.. I wouldn't call it cheating if anything it made cricket very exciting to watch.. I would rather have ball tampering (till a limit) become acceptable in cricket if that is what it takes to get great pace bowling back..
 
If "all teams do it..." then it cannot be called cheating. These historical accounts you speak of also talk about the otherwordly quality of Sobers, Bradman, Miller, etc but apparently, they did not know any better when it came to judging the quality of those players.

Unless you have solid proof that Waqar was a ball tamperer and that he would have half the number of wickets that he does without it, I would suggest you refrain from making serious allegations like this. Calling a Pakistani legend a cheat without any proof is pretty pathetic.

Wonder why you never called James Anderson a cheat when you were championing him against Steyn for all those years.

Every pacer who has tampered with the ball (almost everyone has) is not exactly a 'gentleman'. Neither is Anderson and neither is Steyn, who got caned by Manzoor of all people in Abu Dhabi before Faf put his zipper to work and SA leveled the series. And yes for your information, Waqar was suspended multiple times for tampering. Similarly, the likes of Imran and Wasim have admitted numerous times on record that they used to tamper with the ball like every other team, but they were simply better than them. There is no bigger proof than that.

Cheating at the end of the day, is cheating. It doesn't matter if how many teams do it. Ball-tampering has made cricket more exciting, but at the end of the day, it is still illegal, and proponents of an illegal practice cannot be considered as one of the 'gentlemen' of the game. Cricket has had far more 'gentlemen' batsmen than 'gentlemen' fast bowlers.
 
Fleming/Cook
Amla
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kallis
VVS/Misbah/ABD
Gilchrist
Vettori
Pollock
Bond
Walsh/Broad/ Hazlewood
 
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