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The guy has won 2 consecutive Champions League titles as manager in one and a half seasons.He's won La Liga too,for the first time in 5 seasons for Madrid.He's won other titles such as the Club World Cup and the UEFA Super Cup.

Do you think his success has primarily been because of the depth and quality of the RM squad and he is simply lucky to have this team?Or is he actually a good manager who can succeed at other clubs with lesser talented or lesser known players?
 
His years long experience with RM players is the reason for his success.
 
A manager is usually judged by success. Zindane has won enough in his short time at Madrid to be seen as a very good manager but is a great manager, it's very difficult to say.

Could he kept up a team like Middlesborough or Sunderland last season in the PL? Maybe promoting Huddersfield to the PL or doing what Nigel Clough managed to do?

Antonio Conte is a great manager because he changed Chelsea with his tactics into Champions. Also having won 3 league titles, 2 in Italy and 1 in England consecutively in club football.
 
In my view,Zidane has had this much success because he has been with the club for a long time,knows the players and the politics of the RM board.He knows the pressure involved.But the main reason for his success is the relationship he has with the players.He has their complete respect,unlike Rafa Benitez.Also,unlike Benitez,he knows what he's doing.
 
I see a lot of people call him lucky, but just look at how other great managers did before him. Mourinho was nowhere as succesful, Neither was Pellegrini or Ancelloti. Also he has great eye for spotting talent. He was behind signing of Varane and found Asensio this season. Also Ancelotti pretty much burned the team as he was only using 12-13 players throughout the season, but Zidane changed that. A player like Nacho is totally transformed under Zidane and become an important member. So many players contributed this season. Which meant that key players were 100% fit and had lots of energy left. Reason we won against Juve was they burned all their energy in first half while Real were still fresh.

Zidane has so far been the best RM manager since Del Bosque. I don't know how he will do in future, but so far he has been exceptional.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In his 19 months as Real Madrid manager, Zinedine Zidane has won as many titles as he has lost games (7).</p>— Phil Kitromilides (@PhilKitro) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhilKitro/status/897953347470274561">August 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Muhammad10 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In his 19 months as Real Madrid manager, Zinedine Zidane has won as many titles as he has lost games (7).</p>— Phil Kitromilides (@PhilKitro) <a href="https://twitter.com/PhilKitro/status/897953347470274561">August 16, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Don't follow soccer at all but that sounds impressive.
 
Muhammad10 said:
Indeed, those are some stunning numbers. :don
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Doesn't hold a candle in front of the genuis known as Mark Hughes. Hope his team doesn't come across Stoke City else there would be a general sense of Matam on the streets of Madrid next morning.
 
thelandofthebravepeople said:
I see a lot of people call him lucky, but just look at how other great managers did before him. Mourinho was nowhere as succesful, Neither was Pellegrini or Ancelloti. Also he has great eye for spotting talent..
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I think one thing you and many others are failing to acknowledge is that the competition isnt as strong anymore.

The Barca side is nowhere as good as earlier

Mourinho built a very strong RM team. But ran into a Barcelona which was an ATG side (perhaps best ever assembled). Otherwise he would have won more
 
Hands down, the best coach on the planet right now I didn't think he could be a great Manager esp coming in during mid-season but he's a legend as a manager as well. Doesn't matter about the tactics, doesn't matter about the man management, doesn't matter about the rotation, doesn't matter about the energy and fire that he brings to this team.He has turned this team into an engine of destruction, that leaves all other teams gasping for air in their wake. It's not playing like it's scared. It's not playing to simply get a draw or squeak by by the skin of it's teeth. What a roller coaster of emotions from Benitez and the 0-4 clasico humiliation to achieving the old dream of winning the champions league back to back.All hail king zizou
 
Slog said:
I think one thing you and many others are failing to acknowledge is that the competition isnt as strong anymore.

The Barca side is nowhere as good as earlier

Mourinho built a very strong RM team. But ran into a Barcelona which was an ATG side (perhaps best ever assembled). Otherwise he would have won more
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True every now and then mou didn't got the recognition he deserves.He lead madrid to a 100 points La Liga trophy after a 3 years drought, broke the dream of Barca's trebleX3. Brought Di Maria, Ozil, Modric.Varane, Benzema and Marcelo,all these players had have been vital for madrid sucess in these years.The club had a 7-8 year period winning only the Round of 16 trophy every year. Compared to that, Mourinho's 3 semi-finals are a major improvement.He made some mistake in the last years,but still brought some good wins against Barca,madrid went even better after he left but his achievement is not be forgotten or disregarded
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] is right about the competition not being as tough as during Mou's time.
But Zidane has done what Ancelloti,Benitez and Mancini didn't do.He rotated the squad a lot and was not at all afraid to test his bench strength.
He has a better rep with the squad than Mou did and doesn't throw as many tantrums.The players believe in him and so does Perez which has given him a lot of confidence.He is an underrated tactician too.
 
Won the ‘Best Manager’ award by FIFA yesterday.Deserved that because of his successes and the way he turned the team around when he was appointed.
 
Zizou to me was the best player of his time...I think even Ronaldo the elfenomeno said during his RM days that out of everyone on the team Zidane is unmatched..Not surprised that he's been this successful as manager. Expect nothing less from the legend.
 
3rd Consecutive Champions League.

3 UCL titles in his 3 years as the manager.Surely no coincidence?
 
Zinedine Zidane has sensationally resigned as Real Madrid head coach less than a week after leading the club to their third successive European Cup triumph.

The 45-year-old announced his departure in a surprise press conference at Real Madrid's training ground on Thursday morning.

Zidane leaves Real Madrid as one of the club's most successful managers having won three Champions Leagues, two Fifa Club World Cups and one La Liga title.

"I've taken the decision to not continue next year as Real Madrid coach," Zidane told reporters.

"This is the right moment for everyone, it might seem a bit strange, but it had to be done for the good of everyone, the players, the club, and myself. This team must keep winning, and it needs a change after three years, another voice, another method of working."

"I love this club a lot, the president, who gave me everything – to play first at this great club. I’ll always be thankful. Today I need to change, for me, for everyone, for this I’ve taken the decision," Zidane added.

"I wanted him to stay forever and I wanted to convince him to stay. But I know it was his final decision," said Real Madrid president Florentino Perez, who was present alongside Zidane.

"The only thing I want to say is 'hasta pronto' because I know he will return, maybe after a rest," he added.

On Saturday he became the only manager in the Champions League era to win the trophy for three straight years with the same club.

However Real Madrid endured a disastrous league campaign last season, finishing 17 points adrift of eventual winners Barcelona.


Zidane said he would be taking a break from football after leaving Real Madrid and would not be interested in taking a new role: "I'm not going to coach next season. I'm not looking for another team.”

In February the Frenchman admitted he would consider quitting the club if he felt "there is nothing more to give".

However after masterminding Real Madrid's victory over Liverpool in Kiev, Zidane gave no indication that he was considering his future at the Bernabeu.

"This is a legendary club. This is a club that has won 13 European Cups so I'm happy to be part of this history," he said.


He added: "We are going to think about what we achieved, enjoy the moment first. This is the most important thing now."

The Frenchman has in the past been linked with the manager's job at Chelsea, although Antonio Conte remains in charge for now with Maurizio Sarri tipped to replace him.

Former Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has been installed as the early favourite to succeed Zidane.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...e-resigns-real-madrid-manager-days-champions/
 
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Zidane resigns as Real Madrid manager ; Arsene Wenger favourite to replace

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Arsene Wenger emerges as favourite for Real Madrid job after Zinedine Zidane's shock resignation<a href="https://t.co/gQQ5KrO2VT">https://t.co/gQQ5KrO2VT</a> <a href="https://t.co/JYYam5KMGD">pic.twitter.com/JYYam5KMGD</a></p>— Mirror Football (@MirrorFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1002147735619952640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31 May 2018</a></blockquote>
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More power to his elbow. Will be so funny if he comes back for Ozil :-p
 
Conte should get the RM role. Hes world class and a serial winner (whose only complaint has been clubs with lack of budget) unlike Wenger..
 
Terrible decision, doesn’t make sense at all.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain player gave a 'it's either me or him' ultimatum.
 
Dios said:
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain player gave a 'it's either me or him' ultimatum.
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Are you saying it's bale?

I don't think Bale has that much of an influence that he can get Zidane sacked. Ronaldo has a problem with its pay rise, not manger.

Zidane just wanted to retire on high rather being sacked later on. He will coach France after this
 
Benzema will be distraught listening to this news :))

He scored only 5 goals in La Liga this season, and I know he gave a world class performance in UCL final. It looks like his time is up as well, no more Zidane to back him up again and again.
 
Dios said:
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain player gave a 'it's either me or him' ultimatum.
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If any player has that problem it could be Bale.

Apart from him and Isco,every other player's relationship with Zidane seems to be excellent.
 
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shah_1 said:
Benzema will be distraught listening to this news :))

He scored only 5 goals in La Liga this season, and I know he gave a world class performance in UCL final. It looks like his time is up as well, no more Zidane to back him up again and again.
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Any new coach should look to bring back Mariano from Lyon and Icardi.
 
Surprising indeed, because there is not many high profile openings (as Manager). He won't join Bayern for sure, Tuchel has just joined at PSG, Juve has extended Allegri while Arsenal has just appointed Unai. His other former club (Girondins de Bordeaux) also has a new appointment and now it's too low profile club for him. They say, Zizu isn't the greatest tactician (though I must say, Klopp had a pun on this - "If the experts think me or Zizu are not tactically that good - two managers in CL Final, then we must have to rethink about what we mean by Tactics...."), but he was a wonderful leader and a great personality, who could inspire his team.

Being a French fan from kid days (actually, we were in UK then and my first memory of soccer is 1984 Euro; then Liverpool lost to Juve next year in EC Final - I was a big fan of Platini from baby days; then came Zizu, Henry ...), I have watched as many French & Juve/Real game as possible (this was another disgusting, bitter experience for me - always expected CR to score a hat-trick & Zizu to win the MoM .... but MU & Real looses ....) - one thing I can't recall is in my life time, I had NEVER seen Zidane loosing ball at midfield.

Today, the picture we get about a Box to Box midfielder is 6'4" hunk who'll hit & run and terrorize midfield; but this guy is the best ever B2B midfielder game has ever seen (and probably won't see another ever), with a silky touch like an Arges forward, passing vision like a Spanish, ball skills like a Brazilian, shooting/heading skills like a German, tackling skills like an Italian, game reading skills like a French and tough like an African. He was mean, yet gracious on ball - I have hardly seen anyone with such ball skills for a 6'1" guy in a narrow space, his first touch was as good as Messi or CR and he is among very few genuine ambidextrous shooter (that CL Final scissors' kick was by his weaker foot - left one!!!), and that man scored 2 WC Final Goals with his bald head!!!!!! Could have scored a 3rd one, but only for the best I have seen denying him - Gigi Buffon.

I can see only, only place for him - this fool Deschamps is going to get sacked after Russia; Les Blues need Zizu as Manager. This is probably the most gifted French generation of their history and they need a boss who would inspire them for greater heights.

Bring it on France - Qatar is waiting for the King.
 
MMHS said:
Surprising indeed, because there is not many high profile openings (as Manager). He won't join Bayern for sure, Tuchel has just joined at PSG, Juve has extended Allegri while Arsenal has just appointed Unai. His other former club (Girondins de Bordeaux) also has a new appointment and now it's too low profile club for him. They say, Zizu isn't the greatest tactician (though I must say, Klopp had a pun on this - "If the experts think me or Zizu are not tactically that good - two managers in CL Final, then we must have to rethink about what we mean by Tactics...."), but he was a wonderful leader and a great personality, who could inspire his team.

Being a French fan from kid days (actually, we were in UK then and my first memory of soccer is 1984 Euro; then Liverpool lost to Juve next year in EC Final - I was a big fan of Platini from baby days; then came Zizu, Henry ...), I have watched as many French & Juve/Real game as possible (this was another disgusting, bitter experience for me - always expected CR to score a hat-trick & Zizu to win the MoM .... but MU & Real looses ....) - one thing I can't recall is in my life time, I had NEVER seen Zidane loosing ball at midfield.

Today, the picture we get about a Box to Box midfielder is 6'4" hunk who'll hit & run and terrorize midfield; but this guy is the best ever B2B midfielder game has ever seen (and probably won't see another ever), with a silky touch like an Arges forward, passing vision like a Spanish, ball skills like a Brazilian, shooting/heading skills like a German, tackling skills like an Italian, game reading skills like a French and tough like an African. He was mean, yet gracious on ball - I have hardly seen anyone with such ball skills for a 6'1" guy in a narrow space, his first touch was as good as Messi or CR and he is among very few genuine ambidextrous shooter (that CL Final scissors' kick was by his weaker foot - left one!!!), and that man scored 2 WC Final Goals with his bald head!!!!!! Could have scored a 3rd one, but only for the best I have seen denying him - Gigi Buffon.

I can see only, only place for him - this fool Deschamps is going to get sacked after Russia; Les Blues need Zizu as Manager. This is probably the most gifted French generation of their history and they need a boss who would inspire them for greater heights.

Bring it on France - Qatar is waiting for the King.
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He will manage France eventually no doubt.

You said Klopp would be wanted by Real Madrid if Zidane left, not a single mention of Klopp going their.
 
Surprised at the decision. Thought he would stay at Real for a while. He knew how to get the best out of the players and they all respected him.
 
Hasan123 said:
He will manage France eventually no doubt.

You said Klopp would be wanted by Real Madrid if Zidane left, not a single mention of Klopp going their.
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Klopp is a bit different type Manager - he loves to work his own way and get everything under his control. He wasn't interested for Bayern or MU job and I am sure he won't go to MCity, PSG or Chelsea either. A bit like Simione or Wenger. Under the circumstances ZZ left Real, it's really difficult to believe that Klopp will go there. Also, Real's transfer business is entirely managed by the Board, while Klopp is extremely sensitive about his squad - he is comfortable working in a tight budget or wage structure, but once a budget is given, he won't allow anyone to interfere. I don't think Klopp is going to Real, might not be Wenger either - could be Pochetino.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
The person I quoted said that it was a 'him or me' situation.I don't agree but if it would be any player,it's Bale.
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I think, it's CR & Perez.

Real has too many players, therefore probably many are unhappy with their position/game time including Bale; but I don't think anyone has the personality to tackle ZZ. They might show dissatisfaction, but won't challenge status co. Recently I read CR is pushing for the highest wage, which ZZ might have opposed (As a Manager, he has to be fair). Also, Real's manager has little say in transfer business.

Bale is too insignificant really to oust Zidane from Real - either it's CR or board of Director (s). If it's "Him or Me" with Bale, Real would have sold Bale by now.
 
MMHS said:
Klopp is a bit different type Manager - he loves to work his own way and get everything under his control. He wasn't interested for Bayern or MU job and I am sure he won't go to MCity, PSG or Chelsea either. A bit like Simione or Wenger. Under the circumstances ZZ left Real, it's really difficult to believe that Klopp will go there. Also, Real's transfer business is entirely managed by the Board, while Klopp is extremely sensitive about his squad - he is comfortable working in a tight budget or wage structure, but once a budget is given, he won't allow anyone to interfere. I don't think Klopp is going to Real, might not be Wenger either - could be Pochetino.
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Why was you always saying Klopp will be targeted by Real Madrid then?

Poch will stay at spurs I think. He will want to see them in their new stadium.
 
Arham_PakFan said:
The person I quoted said that it was a 'him or me' situation.I don't agree but if it would be any player,it's Bale.
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Bale is not on same planet as Zidane as far as having influence on Real Madrid matters is concerned
 
Hasan123 said:
Why was you always saying Klopp will be targeted by Real Madrid then?

Poch will stay at spurs I think. He will want to see them in their new stadium.
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He will be targeted, actually he is targeted - but, I don't think he'll join them.
 
MMHS said:
I think, it's CR & Perez.

Real has too many players, therefore probably many are unhappy with their position/game time including Bale; but I don't think anyone has the personality to tackle ZZ. They might show dissatisfaction, but won't challenge status co. Recently I read CR is pushing for the highest wage, which ZZ might have opposed (As a Manager, he has to be fair). Also, Real's manager has little say in transfer business.

Bale is too insignificant really to oust Zidane from Real - either it's CR or board of Director (s). If it's "Him or Me" with Bale, Real would have sold Bale by now.
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Watch Perez during the press conference he looked in total shock.

The 90% of the time injured Bale is absolute no power to go against Zidane.

It was his own decision.
 
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