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“Azhar Ali has got no runs in England and he’s just lost a game they should’ve won” : Nasser Hussain

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“Azhar Ali has got no runs in England and he’s just lost a game they should’ve won” : Nasser Hussain

Nasser Hussain on Azhar Ali

“He has got no runs in England and he’s just lost a game they should have won, You don’t survive too long as a captain of Pakistan if you arent doing one or the other right, so he needs a big score”
 
He is only captain because he lifts Misbah's............ ego
 
He is more of a clown than a batsmen. Our standards are so low that a guy averaging 11 in last 9 matches away is the captain of Pakistan team. PCB is a joke
 
Azhar is just terrible. Not only is he incredibly slow but i always feel he's incredibly vulnerable to LBW every ball. It is just terrible watching him play, to make it worse he's the captain too.
 
Nah I have a feeling he will continue as captain for a while now and can hear a long string of excuses for why that's justified.

Azhar for a while now is the worst batsman in the team yet he survives because he is captain, only in Pakistan honestly.
 
Bear with it. He will be there till at the least next year.

Tests are going to be terrible to watch till 2021 at the least.

Asad and Azhar are a curse which won't be soon lifted.
 
When Misbah is made CS and HC, this is what you're gonna get. We fully deserve Azhar and this pathetic team.
 
Pakistan have this special ability of finding one of the worst players in the side and then handing him over the captaincy.
 
If Inzi, Yousaf and Younis were to return they'd still be much better then Asad and Azhar. Says it all.
 
This should be his final series in the world championship but I highly doubt it
 
The captain should be Babar Azam.

Not because of his captaincy skills but because he is the only guaranteed starter in the team for the next five years.

If Azhar Ali wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.
 
Look how long Sarfraz was captain despite not performing. Azhar and Misbah were ODI captain despite question marks about their batting.
 
The captain should be Babar Azam.

Not because of his captaincy skills but because he is the only guaranteed starter in the team for the next five years.

If Azhar Ali wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.

Shan Masood
 
He is only captain because he lifts Misbah's............ ego

And Misbah is coach and selector because lifts Mani's------------ego,

Mani is chairman because he lifts IK's -------------ego.
 
eagerly waiting for the Shan Masood era.

It will be Babar, next. May not be a natural at the moment, but if he adapts quickly then we may be looking at a rare era of stability coming up for Pakistan. The faster this happens, the better for us.

If Shan is handed captaincy for the next 3-5 years and Babar reaches his 30s then that stability is gone for good. This is what happened for Azhar, handed captaincy in the 30s after Misbah's retirement in his 40s set precedent that old is gold, lol. Only in Pakistan.
 
Make Shaan Masood, the test captain, he is not a great test player but better than many others in current team.
 
The captain should be Babar Azam.

Not because of his captaincy skills but because he is the only guaranteed starter in the team for the next five years.

If Azhar Ali wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.

Putting way to much pressure on Babar. Don’t know if he’s up for the task.
 
PCB must be asked why a batsman averaging 11 in away Tests in the last three years, and 28 overall, was appointed Test captain. Why replace one nonperforming captain with another ?

Look Azhar was a decent investment between 2010-2017. When Younis and Misbah faded, Azhar was the most consistent batsman on those away tours. However since 2017, Azhar has been a walking wicket whose slowing reflexes cannot compensate for technical weaknesses anymore.

The amount of favouritism and golden boy treatment Azhar and Shafiq have gotten has lost Pakistan so many Tests now.
 
Nasser Hussain on Azhar Ali

“He has got no runs in England and he’s just lost a game they should have won, You don’t survive too long as a captain of Pakistan if you arent doing one or the other right, so he needs a big score”

Ok the facts and stats say he is but and I do enjoy Nassers commentary, but it's a messege he wants the audience to hear to add pressure on the team.
 
The only player currently worthy of Test captaincy is Babar Azam because he is guaranteed a place in the Test team.
 
Naser wants Pakistan to win more than PCT management.

Nah, he really wanted Eng to win. Whenever Eng was on the front foot his expressions in commentary were manifesting the happiness (Pretty natural as well).

I like Nasir as a commie but, obviously if its Eng vs Pak he is naturally all for Eng.
 
Nasser Hussain on Azhar Ali

“He has got no runs in England and he’s just lost a game they should have won, You don’t survive too long as a captain of Pakistan if you arent doing one or the other right, so he needs a big score”

Thank God someone said it bluntly. Needed to be said. Hoping Vaughan does not hold back either. Holding too.
 
PCB must be asked why a batsman averaging 11 in away Tests in the last three years, and 28 overall, was appointed Test captain. Why replace one nonperforming captain with another ?

Look Azhar was a decent investment between 2010-2017. When Younis and Misbah faded, Azhar was the most consistent batsman on those away tours. However since 2017, Azhar has been a walking wicket whose slowing reflexes cannot compensate for technical weaknesses anymore.

The amount of favouritism and golden boy treatment Azhar and Shafiq have gotten has lost Pakistan so many Tests now.

Valid points.
 
Hopefully azhar pulls off something in this series now.

He was under pressure, his facial expression showed it.
Hopefully he can take that pressure and perform in the next match.

No point in bashing him cause he is still going to captain us in the next two games.
 
I have no love lost for Hussain, when he’s always insulted his heritage!

But he’s spot on when it comes to this
 
I have no love lost for Hussain, when he’s always insulted his heritage!

But he’s spot on when it comes to this

Hopefully this spurs azhar Ali to take his top off and point his bat at nasser hussain once he conjures up his next hundred
 
Hopefully azhar pulls off something in this series now.

He was under pressure, his facial expression showed it.
Hopefully he can take that pressure and perform in the next match.

No point in bashing him cause he is still going to captain us in the next two games.

There is every point in making constructive criticism for the betterment of the team

If there isnt discussion how will positive changes be enforced? At least this way there is pressure to act and perform otherwise there is none on azhar and misbah
 
And once again Nasir Hussain saying the right thing.

What garbage captaincy was that compared to the first two days.

I thought we found a good captain but boy I was wrong.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens regarding Azhar at the end of this series.

Also there is the usual problem of no ready-made replacement as Test captain.
 
Acha Bacha showed a reply of the 1st ODI in NZ in 2016.

He let them go from 99-6 to 280-8.

And now 117-5 to 256-6.

Disgusting and shameless nepotism by Misbah.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens regarding Azhar at the end of this series.

Also there is the usual problem of no ready-made replacement as Test captain.
Who is current vice captain?
Normally vice captains will promote.

Ganguly to David/ Kumble to Dhoni to Kohli.
Rahane is doing captaincy when Kohli rested.

Pakistan also should come with future plans and groom 2 players, make them ready to available.
 
Hopefully azhar pulls off something in this series now.

He was under pressure, his facial expression showed it.
Hopefully he can take that pressure and perform in the next match.

No point in bashing him cause he is still going to captain us in the next two games.

The only thing he's likely to pull is his hamstring. The stats don't lie, he's lost his ability. His chronic knee issues isn't helping either so can't see any way back for him I'm afraid, especially on the Ageas pitches.
 
Who is current vice captain?
Normally vice captains will promote.

Ganguly to David/ Kumble to Dhoni to Kohli.
Rahane is doing captaincy when Kohli rested.

Pakistan also should come with future plans and groom 2 players, make them ready to available.

Vice Captain is Babar.
 
Who is current vice captain?
Normally vice captains will promote.

Ganguly to David/ Kumble to Dhoni to Kohli.
Rahane is doing captaincy when Kohli rested.

Pakistan also should come with future plans and groom 2 players, make them ready to available.

they have babar as vice. If baber knows how to apply strategies in test, might aswell make him the captain
 
It will be interesting to see what happens regarding Azhar at the end of this series.

Also there is the usual problem of no ready-made replacement as Test captain.

Has there ever been a ready made progressively thought out appointment of a captain in Pakistan's cricket history?
I agree that we had no leaders in the past who were also performers. However, now we do have a guy and he is an anomaly when it comes to Pakistani cricketers as he is intelligenct educated, mature, is cultured and has the calibre of producing the kinds of performances you wont expect from a traditional Pakistani cricketer.

This guy can change the entire outlook and culture of our team.
 
Shan or Babar would not do any worse mark my words.

Babar is like a quiet craftsman/artist and not a leader of men. He seems shy, doesnt like a lot of attention and is not a great communicator, whereas Shan ticks all these things.
 
Shan is a walking outside edge - old habits die hard,
Azhar Ali is walking LBW and should not be in team anyway.

Babar deserves to be captain or Shadab.
 
If Shan can string together a few consistent performances and guarantee his name on the playing sheet, I see no reason for him not getting it.

I just have a sneaky feeling Babar actually wants it - not in the traditional PAK way of leading mutinies etc but more because he wants to be the complete player. The league he aspires to join (Root, Smith, Williamson, Kohli) is made up of best batsmen being captains.

Having said that, given his personality, would be good of him to work on LOI first, groom himself (and yes I am of the school of thought that the ability to speak also English matters - not because of how cool or otherwise you can be, but more because of how coherently you can express yourself and in a world where we judge people on how confidently they speak - diction and language - this can help boost his own confidence). Overall, Shan for now if he can get himself selected over and over again.
 
Has there ever been a ready made progressively thought out appointment of a captain in Pakistan's cricket history?
I agree that we had no leaders in the past who were also performers. However, now we do have a guy and he is an anomaly when it comes to Pakistani cricketers as he is intelligenct educated, mature, is cultured and has the calibre of producing the kinds of performances you wont expect from a traditional Pakistani cricketer.

This guy can change the entire outlook and culture of our team.

Outlook and culture, yes. Given his work ethic, I don’t think some lazy bums will enjoy that. But let’s see. Needs to have a breakout series and year.
 
Didn’t India swap captaincy mid way through their tour of Australia in 2014? If I am not mistaken MS announced his retirement and they were down 2-0 in the series? Getting hopeful lol
 
Didn’t India swap captaincy mid way through their tour of Australia in 2014? If I am not mistaken MS announced his retirement and they were down 2-0 in the series? Getting hopeful lol

Ms had a future in limited overs internationals snd the IPL.
Azhar doesnt, so he will cling on.
 
when a player cries to the umpire over sledging... you know he a mentally weak fragile ...
 
I was a big supporter of Azhar (and deservedly so) but he is past his sell date. PCB is so incompetent that they never no when to shelf a player hence we have Azhar Ali as Captian and Misbah as coach and CS:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 
Who do people recommend replacing Azhar with? Do we have bradmans sitting on the bench.
 
Pakistan have this special ability of finding one of the worst players in the side and then handing him over the captaincy.

When it comes to captaincy, our special ability isn't just filtering by worst performers, its also finding the oldest players in the world.

Other countries make players who're in their 20's the long term captain (Kohli, Root, Kane, Smith), meanwhile batsmen retire by their mid-30's (Kallis, Sanga, Greame Smith, ABD, Cook, Clarke, etc, etc).

Its the opposite in Pakistan. We give the captaincy to the 35-year old who hasn't played a meaningful innings in years
 
If that mid-pull from Woakes was somehow caught by Yasir, we’d have been praising Azhar as if he is the second coming of Imran for his captaincy skills.. Anyway, Azhar must do much better with the bat. The current batting doesn’t warrant a place in the team..
 
Nasser is right. Azhar is finished and Misbah will keep on insisting with him... :facepalm:

Misbah should have stayed away from cricket. Pakistan will only go down with Misbah.

It pains me to write this, but Misbah is a bonafide loser.
 
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If that mid-pull from Woakes was somehow caught by Yasir, we’d have been praising Azhar as if he is the second coming of Imran for his captaincy skills.. Anyway, Azhar must do much better with the bat. The current batting doesn’t warrant a place in the team..

Azhar managed to lose a match that should have been won. There are no ifs or buts.

There was 0 intent from him to push for a victory. Even if Root would have disguised as Azhar he couldn't have done a similar job. Let that sink in.
 
The captain should be Babar Azam.

Not because of his captaincy skills but because he is the only guaranteed starter in the team for the next five years.

If Azhar Ali wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.

That is where Misbah comes in and MA has to leave.

MA would have definitely kicked this two out if he was retained. In his first series he kicked Hafeez out from the opening in tests though he sneaked his way in from time to time.

Similarly kicked out non performing shehzad, UA and even Wahab riaz + players with fitness issues Sohail Khan, Irfan etc. When did Pak odi team had top 3 batsman avg 50+ in ODI cricket it was under MA after 2 decades. Azhar had his purple patch when he was asked to open the innings which Misbah the best cricketing brain and lover of old age players couldn’t do because his friend Hafeez needs to be in the team and open the inns in tests.

Misbah once a loser and his puppet Azhar’s show now. Will be there till his contract is over and take Pak back to 9.. No hope for another 3 years.
 
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Azhar Ali no longer has the technique to score runs in these conditions against Broad, Anderson and Woakes; and he also does not possess the leadership skills to steer Pakistan back into this series. He needs to be replaced.
 
Babar is like a quiet craftsman/artist and not a leader of men. He seems shy, doesnt like a lot of attention and is not a great communicator, whereas Shan ticks all these things.

I'm sure Babar would do better than Azhar. You don't need go be a loud person to be captain.
 
Hindsight Hussein is at it once again.

Bet before the start of the series he would have said Azhar is a very important and good batsman.
 
Shan Masood would be the best replacement. The way he rebuilt his game after being dropped shows his willingness to improve and listen. His work ethic is second to none. Plus he has domestic captaincy experience.

Shan should be the Test captain, Babar as the white ball captain, and Andy Flower as the coach.
 
There is a major obvious flaw in Azhar's batting at the moment, but with age it becomes harder and harder to iron out those flaws and habits.
 
Hindsight Hussein is at it once again.

Bet before the start of the series he would have said Azhar is a very important and good batsman.

This I notice, I feel they go on the last time they saw them in England, or a quick look at averages - Azhar is still averaging 40+ but we know thats boasted by cashing in at home of late, rather than challenges overseas.
 
There is a major obvious flaw in Azhar's batting at the moment, but with age it becomes harder and harder to iron out those flaws and habits.
Why doesn’t he have the courage and integrity to drop himself, like Mike Denness so nobly did in the 1974-75 Ashes. Even after his death we still respect him for that!

As captain you can’t select a batsman in the Top 4 who averages 11.77 in away Tests for the last two years.

Not even if you are that unselectable batsman.
 
The captain should be Babar Azam.

Not because of his captaincy skills but because he is the only guaranteed starter in the team for the next five years.

If Azhar Ali wasn't captain, he would have been dropped by now.

Uh, no he isn't, Babar Azam is not established yet in test cricket, should be nowhere near the captaincy.

Azhar Ali as captain and Babar Azam as the vice is the biggest laughing stock in test cricket, neither hold any credentials for such posts, but in the case of Babar Azam its the best of a bad situation.
 
If Azhar is going to show any value, he is going to have to bowl and allow for a batsman to come in for Shadab, Fawad? It may not come off but its one way to realistically switch up the XI.
 
It will be interesting to see what happens regarding Azhar at the end of this series.

Also there is the usual problem of no ready-made replacement as Test captain.
Shan Masood.

Until South Africa I objected on the basis that his batting didn’t guarantee a spot in the team.

But now it does. And he has literally every attribute that you want in a Test captain.

Except he’s 31 in 9 weeks, so he’s the absolute oldest age you should appoint to the captaincy. It’s now or never.

I don’t think the captaincy would suit Babar. It’s not a gift for the best or most senior player.

To me it’s Shan Masood until the end of the 2021-13 World Test Championship cycle, then it’s Shadab Khan. I know you don’t like him, but he has every attribute that Ray Illingworth had. Decent Number 7 batsman who bowls a bit of spin. Good enough to lead Englsnd to an away Ashes victory.
 
Uh, no he isn't, Babar Azam is not established yet in test cricket, should be nowhere near the captaincy.

Azhar Ali as captain and Babar Azam as the vice is the biggest laughing stock in test cricket, neither hold any credentials for such posts, but in the case of Babar Azam its the best of a bad situation.

Who do you suggest should be the captain then? We arent going to find anything better than Babar or maybe Shan at test level and they have experience of 27 and 21 matches respectively. They are the most experienced players as well in the regular line up after the seniors unless we also want to consider Yasir Shah for captaincy.
 
I have never seen a vice captain, who is 5 years older than the captain.

Gilchrist was a successful vice captain to Ponting for many years and they both had a similar age dynamic.

The vice captain position isn't always about grooming someone to take over, it can also just be a designated person with the correct credentials for the captain to discuss tactics with (and someone with the ability to lead if the captain isn't playing).
 
When the time such that you can easily so the next guy cant do worse, I think its time for self reflection for seniors and team management. We can say it not only for the captaincy but, also for the batting of Azhar and Asad. The way they have batted in last 2-3 years, I dont think Saud Shakeel, Haris Sohail, Imam Ul Haq, Imran Butt, Usman Salahuddin, Saad Ali and even young kid on the block Haider Ali could have done any worse.
 
When the time such that you can easily so the next guy cant do worse, I think its time for self reflection for seniors and team management. We can say it not only for the captaincy but, also for the batting of Azhar and Asad. The way they have batted in last 2-3 years, I dont think Saud Shakeel, Haris Sohail, Imam Ul Haq, Imran Butt, Usman Salahuddin, Saad Ali and even young kid on the block Haider Ali could have done any worse.

Azhar and Shafiq have played 15 Tests together in SENA.

They have lost 13 of them. Including the last 8 in a row.

Why not just jump to Haider Ali and Zeeshan Malik? How can it get any worse?
 
Misbah actually played a blinder by appointing Azhar as he knows there is no clear cut replacement. I'm not convinced on Shan and its better to leave Babar with white ball captaincy for now.

Misbah knows that Azhar can still hang around despite his failures on the basis of his captaincy. Its such a toxic setup.
 
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