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“Looking at Misbah’s coaching, I don’t think even a school will give him a job" : Aaqib Javed

not that this helps in anyway given the current predicament but i would have misbah as a coach any day over shastari!

in addition, there is great deal of romanticisation of the past. the great pakistan team of the nineties lost around 15 st raight odis to s.a. in the same period, pak team was schooled by zimbabwe at home and lost two home series vs sri lanka. in one of these series, waqar younis dropped a sitter when sri lanka was eight down and the tail then wagged to win the match and the series. and speaking of dropped catches and fielding mishaps, here are painful ones from top of my head:

1. saqlain missing a simple runout chance against w.i. in a run chase when w.i. was in the tail which then wagged and cost pakistan the first series win. umpiring further screwed pakistan. p

2. razzak dropping tendulkar in 2003 w.c.

3. yk dropping grant eliot in champions trophy in south africa

4. drop of shane watson by (rahat?) in the 2015 wc.

5. kamran akmal's kurtooth in sydney. his drop off ross taylor in india w.c. the fact that akmal represented pak as long as he did is a good indication of how poorly pak cricket has been run for most of its existence.

all teams drop catches but very few teams do it as frequently as pakistan does especially of key opposition players. pakistan team of the nineties was no better in this regard. the era is remembered so fondly because of the phaintee inflicted on a very decent indian team and a very poor english team which included likes of ronni irani and mark ealham. against australia, pak lost a test series at home in 1998 along with two home odi series in 1994 and 1998. the 1998 odi series was simply uncompetitive with australia hammering pak 3-0. for those who saw the series live, difference between fielding and fitness standards between the two teams was simply embarrassing from perspective of pak supporters. the other reason for pak underperformance was team infighting due to egos of players who were highly talented. thankfully this is one problem which pak team seems to have overcome for which misbah derserves credit.

i have been a fan of misbah for the role he played in digging out pak cricket from its lowest point in the aftermath of 2010 scandal. misbah had been kept out of pak cricket purely for politics. the fact that he harboured no ill-will and turned pakistan to a fairly strong unit is a credit to him. from the period when pak chased 300 in two sessions against s.l. to england tour of 2016 was a respectable period for pak cricket. but things started to go south from the last tour of n.z when yk was beyond sell-by date and misbah was also reaching the end of his tenure. that was time to develop bench strength and involve players like fawad alam and sami aslam - players who possessed unspectacular playing styles but solid temperament. i believe this mistake is haunting misbah himself in his coaching career.

i also believe it was a mistake to hand sarfaraz captaincy of three format which put too much burden on him and impacted his batting which was a key reason for pak success in that period. captaining pak while keeping wickets and contributing with the bat in 3 formats would be a tall task for anybody and its not surprising to see his contribution declined with the bat. azhar ali was a better choice for test captain in my opinion and to his credit azhar has never made a fuss when he was made to participate in the game of musical chair captaincy. his behaviour looks much better than that of yk in this respect.

pak supporters also have to keep in mind that in addition to poor fielding pak is also losing due to absence of babar azam who incidently had a horrible series against sl in uae when pak lost two matches while chasing low scores. yet thankfully pak stood by babar. other players of potential should be treated no differently.

i dont like the way misbah was appointed coach but given his history, i am willing to give him benefit of doubt. hopefully new selector will provide wise council. ultimately this is a result driven business and things have to turn around. but misbah deserves some leeway to see if he can deliver.

I agree 100%! This is a great post.
Also, bowling is weaker than Pakistan standards not from coaching pov but from lack of talent and resources. I mean Faheem is your second best pace bowler says it all. We have Shaheen and that it!
 
I cannot imagine many cricket boards around the world giving the job of head coach to anyone with no qualifications and no experience of coaching properly in domestic cricket or at any junior level, in fact not even at club level.

Pakistan has always done things different than cricket boards around the world. The have fast tracked players and coaches with success. It’s not working at this point. At this point of rebuild of the team, it’s probably best stay the course and develop younger talent. No coach or selection would’ve won this test series!
 
Pakistan has always done things different than cricket boards around the world. The have fast tracked players and coaches with success. It’s not working at this point. At this point of rebuild of the team, it’s probably best stay the course and develop younger talent. No coach or selection would’ve won this test series!


It's not working at this point because, first, we don't have those expert eyes to identify the true genuine talent that is not captured by the domestic scorecards just yet. And then we don't have the right staff in place who can train this talent to transition into the international arena.

In general, we severely lack international level talent but who knows if there is still a Jr. Wasim Akram or a Jr. Inzi lurking in our domestic? We are just unable to find the needle in the haystack.
And even if do, we wouldnt know what to do with it.
 
Misbah the man of the moment it seems. Dont see how he can even function with so much criticism
 
Misbah's fault is the poor selection. Like Shan 'the 3 ducks' masood. Will Pakistan finally drop this hard working but sub standard Player ?
 
I will love to see the reactions of our players if Andy Flower is appointed coach :))

He's the hardest of all taskmasters if anyone's watched The Edge. Makes Mickey Arthur look a walk in the park in comparison.

Haris Sohail will be done and dusted for starters with his 10 cigs a day and allow gym work mentality.

He'll have to push this team to be the best it can. He's the type of guy who will have "the talk" with anyone who drops catches.

We need a strong person steering the team to put these jokers in line. Bring up fitness, improve the fielding standards, support the bowlers, get better at running between wickets, and become a better team.
 
Misbah the man of the moment it seems. Dont see how he can even function with so much criticism

He should have thought about this before taking this job role. In Pakistan and India Coach is everything, and if you don’t give results they will hunt you like zombies 🧟*♂️.
 
“I will never coach the Pakistan team because there is lack of respect for individuals in the current PCB system,” he said.

What a blessing. They don’t want him either lol. LQ please don’t release him.

He is 10 times worse than Waqar.
 
By the way, Aaqib seemed to disappear during today's draft half-way through.

Anyone else notice that?
 
They're both on the same level actually so doesn't matter who says what about coaching.

Aaqib isn't any different unless he thinks coaching UAE for a few years makes the change.
 
By the way, Aaqib seemed to disappear during today's draft half-way through.

Anyone else notice that?

Aqib takes the Lahore Qalandars job very seriously. I believe he gets paid every month and he is involved with the franchise throughout the year.

The other franchises I believe only keep their coaches for 2-3 months and then let them go for the rest of the year only to recall them before the psl
 
Speaking to the press, Aaqib takes aim at PCB:

“Academies were set up in different cities, out of them players used to come forward, now that process has been stopped. Where is the work being done on the technique of the players, Pakistan has no batsmen at all, the technique is exposed on seam and bouncy wickets"

“The world is playing modern-day cricket and we are playing cricket of the 90s when 250 was considered a winning total. England's white ball cricket was bad a few years ago, but they set up a playing zone for themselves."

“England played cricket to improve their strike rate without fear of being out. The strike rate increases not just by hitting sixes but also by playing technical shots"

“We can assess the fitness standard from the fact that there are players like Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan in the team"
 
Speaking to the press, Aaqib takes aim at PCB:

“Academies were set up in different cities, out of them players used to come forward, now that process has been stopped. Where is the work being done on the technique of the players, Pakistan has no batsmen at all, the technique is exposed on seam and bouncy wickets"

“The world is playing modern-day cricket and we are playing cricket of the 90s when 250 was considered a winning total. England's white ball cricket was bad a few years ago, but they set up a playing zone for themselves."

“England played cricket to improve their strike rate without fear of being out. The strike rate increases not just by hitting sixes but also by playing technical shots"

“We can assess the fitness standard from the fact that there are players like Sharjeel Khan and Azam Khan in the team"

This guy backs Sohail Akhtar as a captain for Pakistan's premier franchise tournament. And picked Salman Butt during the drafts.

Even if he says the right things how can anyone take this clown seriously.
 
Regardless of how useless he is himself, what he says is 100% correct. Is there actually any qualified coaching scheme in Pakistan? How does one become a qualified coach?

Paper qualifications are more of a tick box exercise. PK any coach in the Worid and he will make little difference to a team which has 2 batsman and one bowler, who is also struggling. We need scouts to find talent, then give them lots opportunity to play on good wickets.
 
My biggest concern about Misbah being given the sole of Head Coach is and was that he does not have the coaching experience or qualifications to take on such a big job at this stage of his career.

PCB should have made him U19 coach or a domestic team coach first and then monitored how he performed in the role.

He doesn't even the brain to assess opponents obvious weakness
England Academy team was struggling against spin in one day's
Still he failed to play extra spinner in place of faheem that's mind boggling pretty much dumb
He should have tried Nawaz or Imad
 
Why can't they talk to Wasim Akram and convince him to do the job for once?

I would absolutely love to see Wasim in the role and I strongly belive he can make a difference. If nothing else he will do 100 times better than Waqar in developing the bowlers.
 
Some people may not like my comment but this is what I truly believe.

The tableeghi brigade (Inzimam, Yousuf, Mushtaq and Misbah) has ruined our game with their pathetic negative and defensive mindset and their penchant for favouritism. I am not very comfortable with this excessive display of religiosity. This all started with Saeed Anwar and Inzimam. I am sure because of them there is a certain pressure on the players in the dressing room to fall in line.

When you put on the national colours, when you are representing your country, your entire focus should be just cricket and nothing-else and you should only be selecting players on the basis on their performances (and nothing-else)

Misbah was always a defensive captain (same with Inzi). Most of his successes are in UAE and in most of those wins Saeed Akmal had a hand
 
My brother recently met Mushtaq Ahmed at Karachi airport (this was after the second ODI) and he (Mushtaq) told him that quarantine was affecting the team’s performance. What a lame excuse!
 
Why can't they talk to Wasim Akram and convince him to do the job for once?

I would absolutely love to see Wasim in the role and I strongly belive he can make a difference. If nothing else he will do 100 times better than Waqar in developing the bowlers.

We will become betting 11
 
Go back in last 20 years (after 2004); major achievements for Pakistan cricket (except for 2009 WC which was lead by smart but highly temperamental captain YK) was achieved under foreign coaches

2005 : Winning in India (Bob)
2007 Final : Lawson
2008 Kitply cup : Lawson
2012 : Winning in India (Whatmore)
2013 : 1st series Win against SAF (Whatmore)
2016 : drew England series (Mickey)
2018 : drew series in England (Mickey)
2017 : CT (Mickey)

---
Rest other achievements

2012 : England Whitewash --> Ajmal

--- Any other highlight performance we had in last 20 years or so?
--None
May be we have won some Bilateral series in UAE, but nothing more
 
Why can't they talk to Wasim Akram and convince him to do the job for once?

I would absolutely love to see Wasim in the role and I strongly belive he can make a difference. If nothing else he will do 100 times better than Waqar in developing the bowlers.

Just because Wasim was a great bowler does not necessarily mean he will be a great coach as well. Both Viv and Clive were great players but as Windies coach they had limited success, modest by any standards. Could not bring the same level of motivation to the players even with Lara in the side. Windies batting did not improve either.
 
Aaqib in form:

“They don’t know what they are doing or what is their direction. I see more wrestlers than players in the T20 team. There are question marks over the fitness of Sharjeel Khan, Azam Khan, Sohaib Maqsood for international level"

“If you look at the team they have several players of similar nature or for one position. Is this the way to move forward"
 
Paper qualifications are more of a tick box exercise. PK any coach in the Worid and he will make little difference to a team which has 2 batsman and one bowler, who is also struggling. We need scouts to find talent, then give them lots opportunity to play on good wickets.

I have seen Pakistan players often don't even understand the fundamentals of cricket such as calling when running between wickets. If they make contact with the ball they start running without even checking to see if it's gone to a fielder. Even at school you would be taught these things in England, and it's not even a major sport here.

I think you need to get the foundations right first. Not only good pitches, but sound technical coaching, good local league structure which feeds into a properly funded and organised first class structure built around regional and city teams.
 
Pakistan are the laughing stock of international cricket. Lahore Qalandars are the laughing stock of the PSL. I guess Misbah and Aqib aren’t too different.
 
Pakistan’s former cricketer Aqib Javed, while talking to media personnel

“Waqar Younis has assumed the responsibility of coach for the Pakistan team five times in the last 15 years. Nowhere in the world can you see something like this. Waqar has been busy doing commentary and making comebacks to the Pakistan side. It is strange that he has only coached Pakistan and then gone back. He should now learn to coach. Making Misbahul Haq the head coach was a travesty against the Pakistan team. I think the new coach will be a foreigner. The development of coaches in Pakistan has been at a standstill for many years. The coaches in the high performance center are not qualified. It is not always the case that a big player will make a good coach"

“Fakhar Zaman is a match winner in T20 cricket. He should have been in the side. Pakistan does not have a proper opener heading into the T20 World Cup. They had to compromise in fitness as far as Azam Khan’s selection is concerned. If Pakistan wants to win against top teams then they have to raise their fitness levels and standards. If they keep compromising then the fitness culture in the team will fade away"
 
Pakistan’s former cricketer Aqib Javed, while talking to media personnel

“Waqar Younis has assumed the responsibility of coach for the Pakistan team five times in the last 15 years. Nowhere in the world can you see something like this. Waqar has been busy doing commentary and making comebacks to the Pakistan side. It is strange that he has only coached Pakistan and then gone back. He should now learn to coach. Making Misbahul Haq the head coach was a travesty against the Pakistan team. I think the new coach will be a foreigner. The development of coaches in Pakistan has been at a standstill for many years. The coaches in the high performance center are not qualified. It is not always the case that a big player will make a good coach"

“Fakhar Zaman is a match winner in T20 cricket. He should have been in the side. Pakistan does not have a proper opener heading into the T20 World Cup. They had to compromise in fitness as far as Azam Khan’s selection is concerned. If Pakistan wants to win against top teams then they have to raise their fitness levels and standards. If they keep compromising then the fitness culture in the team will fade away"

its so funny hearing these statements.

Now comes a statement from a guy whose Lahore Qalanders not only comes deadlast in every season, but even their player development system that they made was a big joke
 
its so funny hearing these statements.

Now comes a statement from a guy whose Lahore Qalanders not only comes deadlast in every season, but even their player development system that they made was a big joke

He’s not wrong here. Misbah should get proper coaching experience before applying elsewhere. Maybe start from one of the school teams
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.
 
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Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

What about the bit where this humble dude sat on the panel where he’d review a coach whom he’d replace.

Misbah deserves your support, especially if you want to admire / aspire to be a sneaky / slithering / diplomatic / politically correct weasel.

He once had my respect, but we’ve seen his true colours now. I spit on the floor now whenever one takes his name, he should have remained in his lane post retirement, he has ruined his legacy.
 
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What about the bit where this humble dude sat on the panel where he’d review a coach whom he’d replace.

Misbah deserves your support, especially if you want to admire / aspire to be a sneaky / slithering / diplomatic / politically correct weasel.

He once had my respect, but we’ve seen his true colours now. I spit on the floor now whenever one takes his name, he should have remained in his lane post retirement, he has ruined his legacy.

1. He never removed arthur. He recommended his extention. The removal was than decided either by pm or mani.

2. Misbah was never gonna be made arthurs replacement. This happened much much later.

Problem is, you lot will want to believe what you want to believe.

After arthur was removed, and a search was done which did not get any good results, someone decided to throw misbahs name in and thats how he got the job.

Timeline matters. You people love to mentioned that misbah removed Arthur just to get himself hired while you guys dont even know the timeline of the events andnjust love assuming conspracies that never tok place
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

Humbly lets the opposition walk over him. We don't need such characters in the team in any capacity
 
What about the bit where this humble dude sat on the panel where he’d review a coach whom he’d replace.

Misbah deserves your support, especially if you want to admire / aspire to be a sneaky / slithering / diplomatic / politically correct weasel.

He once had my respect, but we’ve seen his true colours now. I spit on the floor now whenever one takes his name, he should have remained in his lane post retirement, he has ruined his legacy.

Being a defunct player, and being labelled a coward or a tuk tukker and always on the backfoot and not having any inspiration and not having charm? I can perhaps live with all of it, but I lost all my respect for Misbah when he filed a petition with Pakistan govt to have his income exempted from any tax.

This was IT for me.

You play in this country, you used the grounds and all other facilities, and use the roads and enjoy the parks and enjoy your freedoms that this country provides you, this country gave you the chance to grow, earn A LOT of money, supported your travel all over the world by giving you all sorts of perks - If you think you are plane who can fly, then this country acted as the runway who helped you take off ... and you don't wanna give back a penny in income tax?

SHAME ON YOU LOSER !!
 
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1. He never removed arthur. He recommended his extention. The removal was than decided either by pm or mani.

2. Misbah was never gonna be made arthurs replacement. This happened much much later.

Problem is, you lot will want to believe what you want to believe.

After arthur was removed, and a search was done which did not get any good results, someone decided to throw misbahs name in and thats how he got the job.

Timeline matters. You people love to mentioned that misbah removed Arthur just to get himself hired while you guys dont even know the timeline of the events andnjust love assuming conspracies that never tok place

Dean Jones was available, and a much better option but then why did Wasim Khan ignore Dean Jones?
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

Source?
 
Being a defunct player, and being labelled a coward or a tuk tukker and always on the backfoot and not having any inspiration and not having charm? I can perhaps live with all of it, but I lost all my respect for Misbah when he filed a petition with Pakistan govt to have his income exempted from any tax.

This was IT for me.

You play in this country, you used the grounds and all other facilities, and use the roads and enjoy the parks and enjoy your freedoms that this country provides you, this country gave you the chance to grow, earn A LOT of money, supported your travel all over the world by giving you all sorts of perks - If you think you are plane who can fly, then this country acted as the runway who helped you take off ... and you don't wanna give back a penny in income tax?

SHAME ON YOU LOSER !!

looks like you are not aware of the laws of the land....

1. Misbah tax issue was bogus, as he was given notice under the wrong category. It was a category he never fell under. The news about his car being confiscated and all was all fake as it never happened.

2. In the Pakistani law there is the second schdule of the income tax ordinane 2001. Please do give it a read before sprouting nonsense.

Pakistani cricketers of the past fell under a tax exemption that was never made by the PCB but by the tax departments. All the ex players had enjoyed that exemption. However later that exemption was withdrawn. PCB made a formal appeal to FBR to restore that tax exemption for the players.

Infact, each year, the pcb requests the govt to exempt the taxes on psl which usually gets accepted.

In 2016 aswell PCB was filing for tax issues
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1117609/questionable-move-huge-tax-cut-proposed-cricket-board

the issue was for PCB and for its players that as these players made their income in UAE the export tax rate was to be applied. In 2016, PCB won the battle as they were able to hire some smart people.....
 
1. He never removed arthur. He recommended his extention. The removal was than decided either by pm or mani.

2. Misbah was never gonna be made arthurs replacement. This happened much much later.

Problem is, you lot will want to believe what you want to believe.

After arthur was removed, and a search was done which did not get any good results, someone decided to throw misbahs name in and thats how he got the job.

Timeline matters. You people love to mentioned that misbah removed Arthur just to get himself hired while you guys dont even know the timeline of the events andnjust love assuming conspracies that never tok place

The fact that he was even on such a panel vindicates there was a conspiracy, a conspiracy against Arther

Which self respecting individual would even agree to reviewing the performance of a bloke they intend to replace, only a spineless man, someone who is also a shrewd snake.

No objective panel in the world would facilitate such a scenario, it can only happen in Pakistan and Misbah took advantage of that to enhance his prospects and hold Pakistan to ransom due to his greed
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

Misbah all class.

He is never going to bring himself down to the level of ex-players like Aqib. Comments like these from Aqib and other ex-players that we regularly see shows the type of people they are. Always slinging mud and trying to bring other people down.
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

Misbah's sins regarding Pakistan cricket are too many, cannot be forgiven easily .
 
Misbah responded to this:


"I have done a lot of work with Aqib Bhai, whether that's as an A team captain or elsewhere. It was great working with him, and he's an excellent and honest man. He backs people in cricket. He has his own mindset. Regarding whatever he has said, i can never disrespect my seniors or people who I have learned from. He has his own opinion and style, and I never replied to this in the past, and I will never do so in the future"


If someone asks me why i support Misbah, is because of the above response.. What a humble guy.

Misbah is a good humble individual, but he is not competent enough to be in the key roles of management. His approach worked in test matches because in test matches, any team can come back from a couple of bad sessions. But even in test matches, he lost a test against Zimbabwe of all teams. He failed as a captain, he failed as a coach, and he failed as a selector. He should do a long term contract with A sports as analyst, because that is the only position where he will get handsome salary and not much abuse.
 
In a world full of man-children, Misbah Ul Haq is a real, authentic, old school proper man. They don't make them like him any more. Truly the last of a breed that's almost extinct.

Pakistan cricket never deserved a true gentleman like Misbah.

We are used to clowns.

Sorry Misbsh, for random clowns disrespecting you like that!
 
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