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Karachi: Pakistan men’s team head coach Misbah-ul-Haq believes that the performance of coaches should not be judged on the end results.

It was a must win for Misbah and his coaching staff as PCB’s Cricket Committee said before the South Africa series that there will be no second chance if the results don’t come in Pakistan’s favor.

“Mostly there is a lot of talk after viewing end results. It’s not easy to play on away tours and all circumstances should be viewed before judging,” Misbah said in a virtual presser today.

“If we are here for three years, there will be ups and down and you won’t win every series. The review of performance must be viewed in a longer run,” he added.

Meanwhile, Misbah revealed that team’s aim is to become No.1 in Test cricket and in top three in other formats.

“The ultimate goal is to be number one in Tests and top three in other formats and we have been telling the players about this target all through,” he added.

Misbah hailed team’s performance under the leadership of new all format captain Babar Azam.

“We are heading in the right direction and this win over South Africa has boosted the team’s confidence under a new skipper who is developing with every game,” he added.

Note, Pakistan next plays three T20Is against South Africa in Lahore on February 11, 13 and 14.

After the Pakistan Super League (PSL) season six, they will tour South Africa for a limited-overs series in April, followed by a short Test and Twenty20 series in Zimbabwe.

https://arysports.tv/misbah-thinks-coaches-performance-not-judged-end-results/

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KARACHI: Pakistan's head coach Misbah-ul-Haq has hailed his team's 2-0 Test series win over South Africa as a much-needed boost for the country's cricket. It was Pakistan's first Test series win over the Proteas since 2003.

Talking to the media on Tuesday, Misbah said that the series against South Africa was very important after the poor performance of the team in New Zealand. "I also think for the growth of players it is very important for countries to play Tests at home on a regular basis. It becomes easier for them to go abroad and perform as well," Misbah added.

"This series was very important for us as we had a very poor series in New Zealand and what is satisfactory is that the team showed grit and each player played his part in the series win. I have never taken pressure because of my job's future but it was frustrating and disappointing that in the last one year we had come close to winning matches even in England and lost out due to poor fielding and lack of application," he said.

Before the series, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had made it clear that a defeat was not acceptable against South Africa. "Look it does not matter to me what the cricket committee says and I never took any pressure because of that because I believe there are no sureties or guarantees about your job. No one can give that to you," he said.

Misbah said that what was important for him was that he and his team had worked hard in the last one and half years, but without the desired results. "But in this series it came together and our finishing was good and we grabbed the opportunities when they came our way," he added.

Misbah also felt that the emergence of Faheem Ashraf as an all-rounder at number seven had allowed the management to strike a balance. "Till Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mahmood were playing we had that balance but for sometime now we have lacked a quality bowling batting all-rounder at number seven. We have invested in Faheem and he is finally coming good for us," he said.

He also believed that wicketkeeper-batsman, Mohammad Rizwan's performances were not surprising since he is a good player of fast bowling. "He came into the team on the back of some good performances in domestic cricket and we needed someone down the order who could play fast bowling well," he added.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/sp...stan-cricket-coach-misbah-ul-haq-2261699.html
 
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Yeah right!!!! Without Hasan Ali, Rizwan and Fawad we would have lost the series 2-0.
 
All the best.

We've done it under Misbah in the past.

And we will do it again.
 
Great Test sides are also very competitive white ball teams

But Misbah is neglectful of his team’s ineptitude of adapting into modern cricket. He is a very one dimensional coach
 
Makes perfect sense.

Forced Pakistan to endure multiple test humilations and now after one victory against a terrible SA, set your sights on India and England.
 
Good ambitions but it must work in consistency. Misbah, Waqar and Younis need to stick around but also be involved in series by series improvements. They must also select consistent sides and not drop their best players for no apparent reason.

It is also important that Pakistan becomes competitive in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.
 
Karachi: Pakistan men’s team head coach Misbah-ul-Haq believes that the performance of coaches should not be judged on the end results.

It was a must win for Misbah and his coaching staff as PCB’s Cricket Committee said before the South Africa series that there will be no second chance if the results don’t come in Pakistan’s favor.

“Mostly there is a lot of talk after viewing end results. It’s not easy to play on away tours and all circumstances should be viewed before judging,” Misbah said in a virtual presser today.

“If we are here for three years, there will be ups and down and you won’t win every series. The review of performance must be viewed in a longer run,” he added.

Meanwhile, Misbah revealed that team’s aim is to become No.1 in Test cricket and in top three in other formats.

“The ultimate goal is to be number one in Tests and top three in other formats and we have been telling the players about this target all through,” he added.

Misbah hailed team’s performance under the leadership of new all format captain Babar Azam.

“We are heading in the right direction and this win over South Africa has boosted the team’s confidence under a new skipper who is developing with every game,” he added.

Note, Pakistan next plays three T20Is against South Africa in Lahore on February 11, 13 and 14.

After the Pakistan Super League (PSL) season six, they will tour South Africa for a limited-overs series in April, followed by a short Test and Twenty20 series in Zimbabwe.

https://arysports.tv/misbah-thinks-coaches-performance-not-judged-end-results/
Do people really believe that? PCB was never looking for someone to replace Misbah otherwise Australia tour or if PCB is more generous NZ tour should be end of the road for Misbah. PCB was waiting for weak S Africa to tour Pakistan knowing that recently they lost to weak SL in home series. As usual S Africa fail and PCB saved his face.
@Dear Saj, can you please enquire with Andy Flower and Gary Kristen to check if PCB really contacted them?
 
Just restrict Misbah for Test Cricket only and remove him from ODis and T20s totally , His way of old school thinking and approach is actually workable in Test cricket only.
 
Do people really believe that? PCB was never looking for someone to replace Misbah otherwise Australia tour or if PCB is more generous NZ tour should be end of the road for Misbah. PCB was waiting for weak S Africa to tour Pakistan knowing that recently they lost to weak SL in home series. As usual S Africa fail and PCB saved his face.
@Dear Saj, can you please enquire with Andy Flower and Gary Kristen to check if PCB really contacted them?

When did SL beat SA recently?
 
Yeah right!!!! Without Hasan Ali, Rizwan and Fawad we would have lost the series 2-0.

Without Williamson, Nicol, and Jamieson NZ would have lost to Pakistan. There is alway handful players that shine in series. Pak did actually have good contributions from many Yasir, Fawad, Nauman, Faheem, Babar, Rizwan, Hasan Ali, Azhar, Shaheen.
 
pakistan are miles off being the best, and its imprudent to make such comments, u can set a target of being the best but in real terms what does that even mean. do u want to be the best tomorrow or in ten years?

realistically pak should aim to be a top 3 team. until pak start winning series in the southern hemisphere all this talk about being number 1 is just soundbites to make the journos go away.
 
“Mostly there is a lot of talk after viewing end results. It’s not easy to play on away tours and all circumstances should be viewed before judging,” Misbah said in a virtual presser today.

Oh just shurrup, its easy for the likes of India and England.
 
Good ambitions but it must work in consistency. Misbah, Waqar and Younis need to stick around but also be involved in series by series improvements. .

On what basis should either of these clowns stay involved?

Some people are doing bhangra over this win but the reality is that winning at home should be a given, not an achievement. Just because Mickey couldn't do it means nothing. Most coaches can and they do.

Misbah has failed in every assignment he's been given barring home tests. Waqar has overseen the regression of every fast bowler he's had under his wing. The last thing Pakistan needed was to paper over the clear cracks with this flimsy victory by failing to keep them under account.
 
I'm not really bothered about test cricket

As long as we win test matches at home I'm fine i don't expect pakistan to win in sena or become number 1 or win World test championship.

I'm more interested in white ball cricket because this is where the future is and the money , and its where pakistan has more chance of winning t20 2009 world Cup, champions trophy 2017.
Of late we are producing players geared more towards white ball than red ball and with advent of psl most of the new talent prospects for pakistan will be white ball cricketers.

Also we have more chance of winning a odi and t20 In Australia and South africa than a test match

Example south africa tour 2018/2019

Test series 3-0 to south africa

One day series 3-2 to south africa

T20 series 2-1 to south africa

We were competitive at white ball and took it down to the wire in odi
 
We beat a weak SA team who have been close to minnow level in Asia and now we’re aiming for no1 with little planning for future no young batsmen being developed and no spinners to take over from Yasir and fast bowlers unable to win matches in SENA.

:salute
 
This is a great ambition to have. It should be the aim from grassroots to international level.
 
This guy is all talk, can't believe some people are falling for it again.
 
Oh just shurrup, its easy for the likes of India and England.

That is why India lose again and again in England and that too by all or most tests. They also lose tests in NZ and SA. It's not easy for them or England. England have done well in SriLanka recently but will lose the Indian series 2-1 or 3-1. India only do well in Australia out of Sena countries.
 
Great goal, but Misbah should recognize he can't be #1 with multiple players in the team who play primarily on reputation and not on recent performance.
 
Aim high.

Number 1 nah, not yet.

But playing home matches in Pakistan will definitely help, especially the younger players.
 
I think people seem to forget that we have a great record at home/UAE against SENA countries.

Why all the negativity!

Eng
2015-16: 2 - 0 Pak
2011-12: 3 - 0 Pak
2009-10: 1 - 1

Aus
2018 -19: 1 - 0 Pak
2014 -15: 2 - 0 Pak

NZ
2018-19: 1 - 2 NZ (first series win since '69)
2014 -15: 1 - 1

So lighten up please!
 
I think people seem to forget that we have a great record at home/UAE against SENA countries.

Why all the negativity!

Eng
2015-16: 2 - 0 Pak
2011-12: 3 - 0 Pak
2009-10: 1 - 1

Aus
2018 -19: 1 - 0 Pak
2014 -15: 2 - 0 Pak

NZ
2018-19: 1 - 2 NZ (first series win since '69)
2014 -15: 1 - 1

So lighten up please!

...and of course, 2 - 0 to Pak v S Aftica 2021.
 
A good goal to have, but I will start with being in the top 3 for 2 years. Being rank 1 for 2 weeks and then again in the 5-7 range hardly means anything.

Be in the top 3 for long period and then you try to keep rank 1 for a long period. Averaging 75+ one year with a career average of 40 is far inferior to averaging 50+ even if you don't average 75+ in any year.
 
Look who is talking , shameful.


Here's some #1 Test ranking for you:
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It was India.

:misbah

Blind hate makes you blind.
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Do people really believe that? PCB was never looking for someone to replace Misbah otherwise Australia tour or if PCB is more generous NZ tour should be end of the road for Misbah. PCB was waiting for weak S Africa to tour Pakistan knowing that recently they lost to weak SL in home series. As usual S Africa fail and PCB saved his face.
@Dear Saj, can you please enquire with Andy Flower and Gary Kristen to check if PCB really contacted them?

Why would they tell a third party about whether they were contacted or not. Professional guys like them would simply refuse to answer that.
 
Here it comes - now the mouse has come out of his hole.

Why make hyperbolic statements?

I just cannot wait for the day we are rid of this cancerous individual. We won in spite of him.
 
Was this the goal when we lost test series due to pathetic selection and game plan in Australia, England, and New Zealand?
 
It's the right aim though unrealistic given our resources.

Misbah has to address two issues. Our opening pair and our wayward new ball bowling means we're always conceding the early initiative with bat and ball. Elgar and Markram were scoring at an ODI pace in first 5-10 overs.

I'm hoping this new leadership group of Babar and Rizwan can change the team culture. Both are fit and hungry, and obviously quality cricketers. They need to set the right example like Younis and Misbah did. Azhar was too nicey nicey and didn't merit the captaincy given his own form was so poor.
 
First goal should be..... play more tests!

Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with aiming high.
 
With the amount of tests they play in a year and importance that they give to test cricket it may as well take a good 8-10 years to get to that rank.

To get there before that time they need to as I've been saying for many many years that firstly give 5 day cricket importance and play as much as possible with teams that will challenge them rather than those ranked at 9-10.

The standards and importance to FC cricket in the country has to be improved as well and all the first choice players should be made to play in them as well unless there's something restricting them to participate.
 
I doubt it's even mathematically possible for Pakistan to get to #1, looking at the scant few tests they play (and mostly against SL, WI, BD, Zim) and their penchant of culling tests to roll with their standard 2-test fare.
 
Why would they tell a third party about whether they were contacted or not. Professional guys like them would simply refuse to answer that.

If that is the case, we will not hear any update until 2022. After the series win against S Africa and moved to no.5 in test ranking PCB will forget all the past failures of Misbah and Waqar and continue with new beginning. Specially now we have PSL, then Zimbabwe series , Bangladesh series PCB can stretch it till 2022.
 
On what basis should either of these clowns stay involved?

Some people are doing bhangra over this win but the reality is that winning at home should be a given, not an achievement. Just because Mickey couldn't do it means nothing. Most coaches can and they do.

Misbah has failed in every assignment he's been given barring home tests. Waqar has overseen the regression of every fast bowler he's had under his wing. The last thing Pakistan needed was to paper over the clear cracks with this flimsy victory by failing to keep them under account.

I am personally not a fan of Waqar as coach and from what I have read, he often rubs people the wrong way but he is here now, there is young blood in the bowling and I would prefer consistency over chopping and changing.

As for Misbah, his role as selector was incorrect but as head coach of the side he brings the right temperament, experience, skill set and clearly has great respect in the side. The results take time to come. None of the great sides were ever built in a day and with Pak playing limited test cricket, which becomes even more limited with Covid, it can take even longer but I would once again, rather tsick with consistency.

England did not beat Australia in 05 after a few days of prep...their prep and success that followed started all the way back in 01 and the one key criteria every selector and captain has mentioned since is not chopping and changing the side like they did in the 90s and wasting key talents. Jimmy, Broady, Freddy and co did not develop over a series or two. It took them years to become world beaters.
 
the one key criteria every selector and captain has mentioned since is not chopping and changing the side like they did in the 90s and wasting key talents. Jimmy, Broady, Freddy and co did not develop over a series or two. It took them years to become world beaters.

Totally agree with this. However you won't have much luck following this formula with Misbah the oldie lover and Waqar who has made every youngster at his disposal go backwards so far.

No shame in getting rid of the deadwood and implementing this policy after the pair have gone but keeping them for the sake of keeping them would be crazy as neither has convinced anyone that they're good enough yet.
 
Totally agree with this. However you won't have much luck following this formula with Misbah the oldie lover and Waqar who has made every youngster at his disposal go backwards so far.

No shame in getting rid of the deadwood and implementing this policy after the pair have gone but keeping them for the sake of keeping them would be crazy as neither has convinced anyone that they're good enough yet.

Better than Mickey who has no idea how to build a test team by playing TTFs like Imam, Amir, Shafiq, etc.
 
All the best.

We've done it under Misbah in the past.

And we will do it again.

Misbah also made sure to stoop Pakistan cricket down to # 6 in Test ranking before he walked away.
So we have done that too, under Misbah.

Basically, this cunning fox is hinting an extension to his contract under the guise of "I will take this team to #1 if you keep me", otherwise, he would've said, "The ultimate goal is to be #1 in test WITHIN MY CURRENT CONTRACT TIME".
 
Totally agree with this. However you won't have much luck following this formula with Misbah the oldie lover and Waqar who has made every youngster at his disposal go backwards so far.

No shame in getting rid of the deadwood and implementing this policy after the pair have gone but keeping them for the sake of keeping them would be crazy as neither has convinced anyone that they're good enough yet.

Misbah has been influential in picking Naseem Shah, developing Shaheen Shah in tests, reintegrating Fawad (yes he is an oldie but he has been key) and some others. We also have some new batsmeni n the line up these days too and it looks like he may be ready to go into a new age.

As mentioned, I am not convinced on Waqar same as you but I would rather persist tthan change, especially after a series win.

There should however be a review at the end of the WTC and imo, a bit like the ECB and CA, reviews of selections for test squads.
 
Misbah has been influential in picking Naseem Shah, developing Shaheen Shah in tests, reintegrating Fawad (yes he is an oldie but he has been key) and some others. We also have some new batsmeni n the line up these days too and it looks like he may be ready to go into a new age.

Naseem and Shaheen are failures (Shaheen wasn't initially but he's been Waqar'd by now). All of the new batsmen you mention have either been failures or not selected. The entire fast bowling line up that Misbah started with has been chewed up and spat out. Not one new batsman has settled into the side except for Fawad.

Fawad is a good selection, and even then hardly a big brain move to pick one of the greatest FC batsmen in Pakistan's history for the national team. If Misbah was so astute Fawad wouldn't have rotted in domestics during his captaincy tenure.

You could definitely give Misbah some credit for Faheem, but i note that when people speak about Faheem's resurgence it is almost always accompanied with Mohammad Yousuf's name. So i don't think Misbah can get the full credit for that one.
 
How long before Misbah is blamed for Babar’s poor batting in Test cricket?

He was average in England, missed New Zealand tour because of injury and was awful against South Africa.

I am surprised the propaganda hasn’t started already.
 
This is a perspective from an outsider of Pakisan Cricket.
Misbah is one of the worst thing to happen to Pakistan.. Especially its short form of cricket.
Pakistan used to play with lots of flair, expressive style and aggressiveness before Misbah took over.
Misbah killed all that with his dour personality, timid attitude and killed all the flair that Pakistan was famous for. The results were there to see in 2013 Champions Trophy and 2015 WC.. those two campaigns were the worst I can remember Pakistan performing in a World Tournament, since I started watching cricket in 1996.

An coming to Number 1 Ranking.. I cannot believe the people harping on that when the team was ranked number 1 for a total of 3 weeks. That too, because of Roston Chase and Rain, else that Ranking would never had happened. Pakistan were serviceable top 3. Any other captain also would have won matches in Spin friendly and flat Wickets of UAE.

Only One series i would give Misbhah credit for, the 2016 2-2 series draw against England. [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION], You are a Misbah's fan. But Have some perspective man. Unless, You are Misbah himself in disguise.. Well hello then.. Thanks for 2007 WC.. Love from India.
 
This is a perspective from an outsider of Pakisan Cricket.
Misbah is one of the worst thing to happen to Pakistan.. Especially its short form of cricket.
Pakistan used to play with lots of flair, expressive style and aggressiveness before Misbah took over.
Misbah killed all that with his dour personality, timid attitude and killed all the flair that Pakistan was famous for. The results were there to see in 2013 Champions Trophy and 2015 WC.. those two campaigns were the worst I can remember Pakistan performing in a World Tournament, since I started watching cricket in 1996.

An coming to Number 1 Ranking.. I cannot believe the people harping on that when the team was ranked number 1 for a total of 3 weeks. That too, because of Roston Chase and Rain, else that Ranking would never had happened. Pakistan were serviceable top 3. Any other captain also would have won matches in Spin friendly and flat Wickets of UAE.

Only One series i would give Misbhah credit for, the 2016 2-2 series draw against England. [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION], You are a Misbah's fan. But Have some perspective man. Unless, You are Misbah himself in disguise.. Well hello then.. Thanks for 2007 WC.. Love from India.

Worst ever performance from a Pakistani team in an ICC event was in 2003 World Cup.


Misbah didn't cost them 2007 T20 WC. He took it close. 2011 WC SF knock was the worst knock I have watched by anyone in a knockout of an ICC event. We can thank Misbah for that victory.

Number ranking in test was due to rain and they stayed no.1 for just a month.
 
Worst ever performance from a Pakistani team in an ICC event was in 2003 World Cup.


Misbah didn't cost them 2007 T20 WC. He took it close. 2011 WC SF knock was the worst knock I have watched by anyone in a knockout of an ICC event. We can thank Misbah for that victory.

Number ranking in test was due to rain and they stayed no.1 for just a month.

2013 Champions Trophy is the worst I have seen Pakistan play in a Tournament, That too in England.
2015 WC comes close.
 
Worst ever performance from a Pakistani team in an ICC event was in 2003 World Cup.


Misbah didn't cost them 2007 T20 WC. He took it close. 2011 WC SF knock was the worst knock I have watched by anyone in a knockout of an ICC event. We can thank Misbah for that victory.

Number ranking in test was due to rain and they stayed no.1 for just a month.

2013 CT was devastating as fan we were playing zimbabwe level cricket in that tournament

Say what you have to about PCT but in ICC tournaments they are overachievers but Misbah single handedly lost us that attribute too...

Btw 2007, 2013 cups were the worst performances by PCT
In 2007 you could make yourself feel better by saying that asif, shoaib were missing but in CT 2013 there was no scapegoat..
 
2013 CT was devastating as fan we were playing zimbabwe level cricket in that tournament

Say what you have to about PCT but in ICC tournaments they are overachievers but Misbah single handedly lost us that attribute too...

Btw 2007, 2013 cups were the worst performances by PCT
In 2007 you could make yourself feel better by saying that asif, shoaib were missing but in CT 2013 there was no scapegoat..

2007 was a shock loss. Can happen... On a side note I remember when India were knocked out.. I was shell shocked.. the whole nation was. Then, when Pakistan were knocked out... There was this azeeb sense of content.. ke chalo... dono teams are out.. lol.. The rivarly kicked in there as well.
Celebrated both teams exit with a Pakistani friend from UK.. Both sad.. ��
 
A very achievable target. Pakistan can beat any team in Pakistan and the away series are quite winnable as well. The most crucial factor will be either Yasir Shah getting back to his best or Pakistan finding their next world class test match spinner.

Hoping for a Pakistan vs India showdown in the WTC final.
 
Under Misbah and Waqar no young player will be nurtured for sure. They will be overused and burn-out at the end.
 
2013 Champions Trophy is the worst I have seen Pakistan play in a Tournament, That too in England.
2015 WC comes close.

2013 CT was devastating as fan we were playing zimbabwe level cricket in that tournament

Say what you have to about PCT but in ICC tournaments they are overachievers but Misbah single handedly lost us that attribute too...

Btw 2007, 2013 cups were the worst performances by PCT
In 2007 you could make yourself feel better by saying that asif, shoaib were missing but in CT 2013 there was no scapegoat..

In 2013, at least bowlers performed. They weren't humiliated like the 2003 team.

2003 team flopped in both the aspects. Aus, Eng, Ind all beat them in one sided matches. Their wins came against associates (they failed to dominate them as well) and associates of that time were worse than associates of today's era.

In 2015, they at least beat SA.
 
And we will start on that path officialy the day you are kicked far from this team...
 
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