2017 CT was a combination. 7/11 were senior players. You need a combination. Combination works the best. 2021 team had been playing together for a while back then.
I agree but the handle of the team is given to new lot.
By all means individual and or a small groups can be replaced but dropping 7-8 players would be a disaster and nothing good will come out of it. Saim, Azam Khan and Usman Khan were our top players in PSL, and look at them at international stage. These three looked totally out of depth in international cricket.
Need to get Rid of the rizwan babar clan first
if we start replacing players based upon the trophies they won then Pakistan would be chopping players every two-three years. In any case we played semifinals and finals under Babar and Rizwan so they haven’t done that bad. Need to get rid of deadweights like Azam Khan, Iftikhar, Shadab and other over the hill players.
100 percent
Teams are not being picked by the captains but the owners, coaches and directors. Players need to show their worth on domestic and lost A matches to get selected.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
'Three groups in the team; Afridi unhappy, Rizwan unhappy, Babar unable to unite players': Pakistan's recipe for World Cup disaster
Pakistan's shock early exit from the ongoing 2024 ICC T20 World Cup is being attributed to internal team "groupings" and the underperformance of senior players. This situation may prompt significant changes not only within the team but also in the Pakistan Cricket Board.
Sources from the PCB reveal that a major challenge for Babar Azam upon his return as captain was to unify the team, but he struggled due to these internal divisions.
haheen Shah Afridi was reportedly unhappy about losing the captaincy and felt unsupported by Babar, while Muhammad Rizwan was dissatisfied about not being considered for the captaincy.
"There are three groups in the team, one led by Babar Azam, the second one by Shaheen Shah Afridi, and the third one by Muhammad Rizwan. Add to this mix the return of seniors like Muhammad Aamir and Imad Wasim and the recipe was ready for a World Cup disaster," a source close to the team told PTI.
The source continued, "The return of Imad and Amir added to the confusion as it was difficult for Babar to get any worthwhile performances from both of them as they had not played top-level domestic or international cricket for a long while now except in franchise-based leagues."
"There were even instances where some players were not talking to each other and a few of them even tried to appease all the group leaders in the team," added the source.
A senior PCB official mentioned that chairman Mohsin Naqvi was aware of the team's problems even before the World Cup, as he had been briefed by national selector and senior manager, Wahab Riaz.
"Naqvi held two meetings with all the players in private and gave them pep talks asking them to put their issues aside and focus on winning the World Cup and he would remove all misgivings in the team later on but apparently things didn't work out."
"I am not defending Babar but what is a captain supposed to do when your premier bowler can't even defend 15 runs in the final over against a weak USA side and concedes a boundary and six on full tosses. Or when an all-rounder brought out of retirement to help win the World Cup sits out with fitness issues," the source added.
Naqvi has suggested that he may make changes to the national team, but sources indicate that there will also be changes within the cricket board itself."The chairman obviously is going to clean up things in the team but already he has started a process of performance-related appraisals of senior and mid-level employees in the board," the source claimed.
"You will see major changes in the team and at management level in the board now," he said.
"Naqvi is himself facing problems as he is not the ruling government's choice to head the board. He is also now facing criticism for the World Cup debacle and there are calls for his head as well," said another PCB source to PTI.
'Three groups in the team; Afridi unhappy, Rizwan unhappy, Babar unable to unite players': Pakistan's recipe for World Cup disaster | Cricket News - Times of India
Cricket News: Pakistan's early exit from the 2024 ICC T20 World Cup was due to internal divisions and underperformance of senior players, potentially causing signif
The difference this time is the new players will know the slap is there. Someone has to be made an example of this time. Shaheed Afridis arguement that not better players available is the same that’s always used.
Azam Khan. Seriously? You don’t see that he has problems?? Cricket is a professional sport. If you want to beat the top teams you have to do what they do at the very least. To compete.
i think you misunderstood. I’m saying Azam Khan was one of the best batsman of the PSL but he has been awful in international cricket. That’s the kind of talent we possess at domestic where people like Azam Khan are standouts. He should definitely be replaced but I’m against replacing the whole team. I believe Azam Khan, Usman Khan, Shadab, Iftikhar and Imad Wasim should be dropped. Rizwan should be rested for a few series.
Azam Khan offers nothing. Set yourself standards and stick to them. He fails on fitness. That’s a basic. He then becomes a liability and breaks down team cohesion. Never mind if he’s Don Bradman. Which he isn’t. Get the basics right. Fitness, running between wickets, fielding, all can be improved with application.
You dont get the point. This lot needs to go. Its like a spreading desease.
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And you think the new guys will be guys will be better? You forget the 20 or 40 years. It's a structural problem and until that is fixed it makes no difference
Its not about being better or not, its about change. you need to change this lot, and yes I agree the fix if it ever will happen will take years. I do not think it will get fixed anyways.
The problem with pcb is that the selectors don't even watch the games. They look at the scorecards and are like yup he's the one.
I agree with this and another issue with our PSL selectors/owners is they don’t know how to select the team. Their first priority is pack the batting with foreign players assuming Pakistan batsmen suck and cannot win them matches on their own. Their second priority is to select batsmen who they believe can hit a lot of sixes instead of batsmen who can play proper shots. This is the reason why for many years we kept seeing Khushdil Shah, Shoaib Maqsood and many other hacks.
We don't have the players or the organisation to change.
Rizwan was developed in this period
What an incredible picture.. three guys who were fighting for the reigns, two of which had their shot and have had their pathetic cricketing leadership exposed have finally come to grips with reality. Caption this as "From Power Struggles to Punchlines: The Ex-Captains Club Finds Humor in Hindsight"Doesn't seem like there is any rift in the team. The trio looks happy with each other.
Doesn't seem like there is any rift in the team. The trio looks happy with each other.
