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“They’ve got some X-factors in there - The likes of Babar Azam with the bat" : Nathan Lyon

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Australia’s success at the 2019 Ashes is still fresh in the memory, but today’s unrelenting cricket schedule affords little time for contentment.

In less than one month, a new Ashes cycle begins — and a fresh challenger awaits.

For gun Australian bowlers Josh Hazlewood and Nathan Lyon that means casting an eye forward to the first Test on November 21, when they will face Pakistan at the Gabba.

Playing Pakistan at home hardly sounds as scary as playing England away. In 12 tours dating back to 1964, the world’s seventh-ranked Test side hasn’t won a series in Australia. Furthermore, Pakistan has lost eight series in a row down under.

But Hazlewood and Lyon know that Pakistan is a team capable of beating anyone on its day — it just depends whether Jekyll or Hyde turns up.

“Probably not knowing what to expect of Pakistan is their greatest threat,” Hazlewood told foxsports.com.au at Kayo’s summer of cricket launch event in Sydney.

“Just when you think they’re in doubt is when they can pull out a performance, just like last time they were here.”

Hazlewood was referring to the Brisbane day-night Test in 2016 when Pakistan came within 40 runs of victory having made 450 in the fourth innings.

He added: “It’s that unpredictability with Pakistan which is their biggest threat.”

True to form, Pakistan this week pulled some surprises at the selection table for the tour, naming two uncapped, teenage fast bowlers and dumping its captain Sarfaraz Ahmed. Musa Khan, 17, and 16-year-old Naseem Shah were both named by chief selector and head coach Misbah-ul-Haq in Pakistan’s Test squad.

“You have to have a surprise package if you want to compete against Australia in Australia and these two fast bowlers (Musa and Naseem) have a very good attitude toward fast bowling,” he said Monday. “Yes, it’s a brave and bold decision to select the likes of Musa and Naseem, but we know that their fresh and attacking approach will give us something different.”

But there are known quantities within Pakistan’s ranks, too, with the likes of Babar Azam and new captain Azhar Ali singled out by Nathan Lyon as key threats to Australia.

“They’ve got some X-factors in there,” the off-spinner told foxsports.com.au. “The likes of Babar with the bat — he’s world class.

“But the captain Azhar Ali, he’s absolutely exceptional; He had a great series last time they were out here (406 runs at 81.20).

“They’ve got world class throughout the whole squad so we’re going to have to make sure that we’re doing our best job preparing well.

“When we get the opportunity, we’ve got to challenge their defence for long periods of time as bowlers, and hopefully our batsmen can bat for long periods as well.”

Despite the rigours of back-to-back World Cup and Ashes campaigns, Lyon said he is feeling refreshed after being afforded a three-week break. The 31-year-old said he switched off from cricket and enjoyed spending extra time with his two daughters during his break.

He has since returned to New South Wales’ camp, playing in the Sheffield Shield against Tasmania on the weekend. Lyon has also been picked to play on Wednesday in the One-Day Cup against the same opponents.

The first Test against Pakistan starts in Brisbane on November 21.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricke...t/news-story/41179262fbc58cbaf9f68bbbc4eb51ba
 
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Babar needs to score a ton and average 45+ in Aus to really announce himself in test cricket.

We will get best easily at Gabba but if we win toss at Adelaide we can pull off something.
 
Babar needs to score a ton and average 45+ in Aus to really announce himself in test cricket.

We will get best easily at Gabba but if we win toss at Adelaide we can pull off something.

Like 2016, the bigger challenge would be for the inexperienced bowling unit to stand up. In Australia you can be very competitive if you post around 300-350 and have the bowlers to take 20 wickets.

The Kookaburra ball, except the pink one, does very little especially in the Australian conditions, so even a substandard batting lineup can post a decent total unless they find themselves 4 down against the new ball.

I firmly believe Pakistan will get whitewashed again not because the batting will fail but because I don’t see 20 wickets in this rookie pace attack, one dimensional Abbas and the awful Yasir (in Australian conditions).
 
Like 2016, the bigger challenge would be for the inexperienced bowling unit to stand up. In Australia you can be very competitive if you post around 300-350 and have the bowlers to take 20 wickets.

The Kookaburra ball, except the pink one, does very little especially in the Australian conditions, so even a substandard batting lineup can post a decent total unless they find themselves 4 down against the new ball.

I firmly believe Pakistan will get whitewashed again not because the batting will fail but because I don’t see 20 wickets in this rookie pace attack, one dimensional Abbas and the awful Yasir (in Australian conditions).

If not for Australia’s ball tampering at the MCG last tour (very obvious, ask Junaids) we could have drawn that game, which given our history would be something to be proud of. We also batted very well in the 2nd innings at Gabba (guess you could call it a fluke) and throughout the SCG test.
 
If not for Australia’s ball tampering at the MCG last tour (very obvious, ask Junaids) we could have drawn that game, which given our history would be something to be proud of. We also batted very well in the 2nd innings at Gabba (guess you could call it a fluke) and throughout the SCG test.

Pakistan has collapsed in the second innings on day five pretty much every single time in the last 4 years.

Our batsmen are mental midgets who cannot handle the pressure of chasing/saving in the fourth innings. It is not appropriate to blame Australia’s ball-tampering.
 
Pakistan has collapsed in the second innings on day five pretty much every single time in the last 4 years.

Our batsmen are mental midgets who cannot handle the pressure of chasing/saving in the fourth innings. It is not appropriate to blame Australia’s ball-tampering.


What do you think is the main reason behind that? Lack of game awareness, education? (Surely not). I can’t seem to figure it out because most of these batsman do have the quality in terms of technique itself. I think all these batsman are quite technically sound and can score 300+ in Aus in a regular basis.

Imam/ Abid
Shan
Azhar - weak link
Babar
Haris
Asad - mental midget
Rizwan
 
Like 2016, the bigger challenge would be for the inexperienced bowling unit to stand up. In Australia you can be very competitive if you post around 300-350 and have the bowlers to take 20 wickets.

The Kookaburra ball, except the pink one, does very little especially in the Australian conditions, so even a substandard batting lineup can post a decent total unless they find themselves 4 down against the new ball.

I firmly believe Pakistan will get whitewashed again not because the batting will fail but because I don’t see 20 wickets in this rookie pace attack, one dimensional Abbas and the awful Yasir (in Australian conditions).

You are probably right. However, I am hopeful Shaheen and Naseem can do something, and remember we use Kookaburra balls in domestics now so that will help the bowlers be used to he ball already.
And Yasir should not play, we should just go with 4 pacers and get Ifti/Haris to bowl part time, or go with Kashif Bhatti at 8.

Also remember besides Smith most of Aus batsmen are out of form. Still very unlikely we can do anything though.
 
babr and Azr wont last much against their quicks...i hope Starc doesnt play as i really think he will blow us away but he couldnt get in the Ashes team
 
What do you think is the main reason behind that? Lack of game awareness, education? (Surely not). I can’t seem to figure it out because most of these batsman do have the quality in terms of technique itself. I think all these batsman are quite technically sound and can score 300+ in Aus in a regular basis.

Imam/ Abid
Shan
Azhar - weak link
Babar
Haris
Asad - mental midget
Rizwan

Lack of mental toughness. Azhar Ali is the biggest example - he has a solid defense and can bat for hours, but whenever he has to chase or preserve his wicket in the fourth innings against an aggressive bowling attack, he crumbles.

Apart from the Sharjah hundred against Sri Lanka, I don’t remember him playing a defining innings in the fourth innings.
 
You are probably right. However, I am hopeful Shaheen and Naseem can do something, and remember we use Kookaburra balls in domestics now so that will help the bowlers be used to he ball already.
And Yasir should not play, we should just go with 4 pacers and get Ifti/Haris to bowl part time, or go with Kashif Bhatti at 8.

Also remember besides Smith most of Aus batsmen are out of form. Still very unlikely we can do anything though.

Yasir shouldn’t, but knowing Misbah and Azhar, he probably will play in the first Test at least.
 
Lack of mental toughness. Azhar Ali is the biggest example - he has a solid defense and can bat for hours, but whenever he has to chase or preserve his wicket in the fourth innings against an aggressive bowling attack, he crumbles.

Apart from the Sharjah hundred against Sri Lanka, I don’t remember him playing a defining innings in the fourth innings.

But what do you think is the reason behind the lack of mental toughness which perhaps some Pakistani teams or players in the past did possess
 
Our batting did well in last tour. I expect them to do well in this tour as well but the bowling is the biggest worry

Aamir Yamin should have played at 7 to allow three fast bowlers to bowl shorter but impact spells. His batting form isn't bad
Zafar Gohar at 8 would have added more depth to batting and control the runs from his end with tight bowling
Management should have asked Wahab to play two test matches with Naseem and Shaheen being the other two fast bowlers.

Abbass and Yasir are bound to fail spectacularly
 
But what do you think is the reason behind the lack of mental toughness which perhaps some Pakistani teams or players in the past did possess

I think there are plenty of reasons: our batting culture is poor, most of our batsmen don’t have the talent to exert themselves on the bowlers and cannot bat with freedom. The coaching staff over the years has also failed to make a difference.
 
Babar has proven his mettle. He needs to just concentrate for longer periods. No need for all out attack like in SA. He is better than that.
 
If not for Australia’s ball tampering at the MCG last tour (very obvious, ask Junaids) we could have drawn that game, which given our history would be something to be proud of. We also batted very well in the 2nd innings at Gabba (guess you could call it a fluke) and throughout the SCG test.

We lost in Melbourne because Misbah never thought he would be batting on the last day. And when he did go out to bat, nobody stood up to be counted. He gets special mention because he had awful tour with the bat. Most PP folks were unanimous that he shouldn’t have gone on that tour.
 
Our batting did well in last tour. I expect them to do well in this tour as well but the bowling is the biggest worry

Aamir Yamin should have played at 7 to allow three fast bowlers to bowl shorter but impact spells. His batting form isn't bad
Zafar Gohar at 8 would have added more depth to batting and control the runs from his end with tight bowling
Management should have asked Wahab to play two test matches with Naseem and Shaheen being the other two fast bowlers.

Abbass and Yasir are bound to fail spectacularly

Yasir definitely. But between Imran and Abbas, I would take the former.
 
As long as they don’t ball tamper, we’ll have a chance :yk
 
These Aussie bowlers will be licking their lips at bowling at this crop of Pakistani batsmen. I really can't see where the hundreds will come from.
 
Babar true to his billing as star attraction so far - looking good in whites so far
 
Babar true to his billing as star attraction so far - looking good in whites so far

the question is will he get same calmness and settled batsmen at other end like he got now in form of shafiq?
this has been not the case vs south africa or else he wouldve scored their too the way he was toying with steyn was something i will never forget.. that was some art
 
Our batting does look decent. I think they are capable of scoring 300+ runs if they bat well. But the real problem is the bowling. Naseem and SSA need to do something special if we want to have a chance of a win.
 
Our batting does look decent. I think they are capable of scoring 300+ runs if they bat well. But the real problem is the bowling. Naseem and SSA need to do something special if we want to have a chance of a win.

what about yasir same old story?
giving away more than 100 & smiling like and idiot
 
what about yasir same old story?
giving away more than 100 & smiling like and idiot

Pakistan are better off not playing him and just giving the spinners role to Iftikhar Ahmed, who will get through some tidy overs, rather than Yasir being pumped out of the ground. That way Pakistan can play 4 pace bowlers and the workload on the pacers will decrease.
 
Pakistan are better off not playing him and just giving the spinners role to Iftikhar Ahmed, who will get through some tidy overs, rather than Yasir being pumped out of the ground. That way Pakistan can play 4 pace bowlers and the workload on the pacers will decrease.

This might just be very smart. He averaged like 84 in the last tour and nothing indicates what caused that has gotten any better. An extra full batsman may just come in handy. Let's see if the Pakistani brains trust see it that way.
 
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