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If Riz can maintain the below stats in ODIs on top of his good keeping, then we should not worry about off side play. He has his own method. He simply needs to trust himself and convert those starts.The problem in white ball cricket is if Rizwan doesn't improve his shot range on the offside, bowlers will just block his scoring areas by bowling outside his off-stump.
He can get away with it in red ball cricket because you are meant to leave most of those deliveries.
I'm not aware of any drama off the field. Not doubting you, but I just haven't stumbled across it.
Bowlers have been poor and in the first ODI, Pakistan should've bowled NZ out for under 250, as there was prodigious swing on offer during the first 20 overs. I didn't watch the other games, so I can't comment on whether the conditions were the same for the rest of the series.
Everyone can see it.If Riz can maintain the below stats in ODIs on top of his good keeping, then we should not worry about off side play. He has his own method. He simply needs to trust himself and convert those starts.
I am just thinking if that is word you use for him then a new word needs to be invented for your beloved Faheem Ashraf, son of punjab.Everyone can see it.
He’s a mediocre player.
Wasim Akram is the pride of Punjab. The Zinadine Zidane of cricket.I am just thinking if that is word you use for him then a new word needs to be invented for your beloved Faheem Ashraf, son of punjab.
Haris Rauf seem like a smart personIrrespective of match results, I have always been afraid of Rizwan embarrassing Pakistani's during press conferences and presentations.
That's why I never wanted him to be captain. Now loosing every single game is just adding to the disaster.
But kre kya ? Do we have smart, educated and forward looking players in setup ? Unfortunately we have bunch of self obsessed loosers.
Can we also please add good-looking to our wish list.Do we have smart, educated and forward looking players in setup
Strong personality and communication skills must be the basic criteria for captaincy but unfortunately Pakistan doesn't have too many options, only Shan, Agha Salman & Saud Shakeel can speak well. It's not about proficiency in English language; a captain should address queries clearly and honestly to the point even if he is speaking in Urdu. Both Babar & Rizwan can't communicate at all even in their native language, they never answer accurately.Irrespective of match results, I have always been afraid of Rizwan embarrassing Pakistani's during press conferences and presentations.
That's why I never wanted him to be captain. Now loosing every single game is just adding to the disaster.
But kre kya ? Do we have smart, educated and forward looking players in setup ? Unfortunately we have bunch of self obsessed loosers.
Wasim Akram is the pride of Punjab. The Zinadine Zidane of cricket.
Respect the roots. Punjab produces the GOATS of South Asian cricket.
Let me look in my pocket for the flying manjis I give….Pride of punjab, Zinedine Zidane who along with his teammates i.e the golden generation of Pakistan, let the nation down so many times in icc tournaments lol
Rizwan did nothing as a captain, it was saim who won us the series. Rizwan was riding on the back of saim while people like you were hyping rizwan to the moonRizwan did well as captain in Aus and SA ODI series. He should have resigned from captaincy when thick tank decided to select playing XIs for him (before tri series). Now he is as responsible for the blame as Aqib and co.
Rizwan should be no where near the t20 or ODI teams now after this ridiculous performance. NZ b bowlers made him look like a child, seriously 5 runs off 27 is a joke.. no plan, no technique or game awareness and unfortunately no “learning” aswell just wishy washy talk. This guy could not even show up with his team to the practice on time so the Napier ground staff accommodated them in the indoor facilities.Nother series where Pakistan learned.
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Mohammad Rizwan at the post match presentation:
"This was an important series for us. Babar Azam found good touch with consecutive fifties, while Sufiyan Muqeem bowled exceptionally well. In the last match, Naseem Shah rediscovered his rhythm with the new ball.
We must give full credit to New Zealand - all their departments have been performing consistently well for months now. The conditions here are very different from Asian pitches, yet they've adapted brilliantly, just as they did during our home series.
In New Zealand, new ball bowling is crucial. We've deliberately focused on developing our young bowlers during this series - this experience will only make them better."
"When you lose, there aren't many excuses to make. While we had some strong individual performances, New Zealand simply outplayed us overall."
"After Champions Trophy and this series, we'll leave the past. PSL is a big tournament for us in Pakistan, hopefully our nation will enjoy. Hopefully we'll do well in PSL"
If Riz can maintain the below stats in ODIs on top of his good keeping, then we should not worry about off side play. He has his own method. He simply needs to trust himself and convert those starts.
Rizwan hardly made any tactical mistakes in those series.Rizwan did nothing as a captain, it was saim who won us the series. Rizwan was riding on the back of saim while people like you were hyping rizwan to the moon
When saim comes back we will start winning again.
It's now clear like day and night
Not entirely true. Assuming we are talking about ODIs, see his ODI stats against all nations. He is averaging in 20s against WI, England & Afghanistan where he needs to improve.Those numbers flatter him because he's been mostly rubbish against first string attacks of world class sides - such as Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and India.
we should not ignore his low strike ratesNot entirely true. Assuming we are talking about ODIs, see his ODI stats against all nations. He is averaging in 20s against WI, England & Afghanistan where he needs to improve.
in principle I agree he should look to improve that strike ratewe should not ignore his low strike rates
In the current era
no.4/5 batters are striking at 90+, some even 100+
Not just the PSL. It's any easy league money.All they care about is PSL money. Destroyed our cricket.
Rizwan hardly made any tactical mistakes in those series.
While Saim did play an important role, Pakistan won those series because our bowling restricted opposition to below par scores. We almost defended 203 in Aus if not for freak innings by Cummins. Rizwan's playing XI selection, bowling changes and field placements were on point.
Yes but removing Rizwan from captaincy won't change much as long as Aqib is there.so what your saying is Rizwan is now making tactical mistakes and that's the reason we are losing?
agreed
the reason he needs to be stripped from captaincy from all formats
Same for batting.That is not true. You are obviously ignoring the fact that Pakistan bowling attack is performing below minnow level.
It’s the biggest tournament in the world after all!So far so good, so is Mohammad Rizwan a man of his words?
He’s proven them right again actually.Rizwan proving the haters on PP wrong and they can't take it. I'm loving this lol
Rizwan proving the haters on PP wrong and they can't take it. I'm loving this lol
I think he has worked in the PCB before. Part of Saqlain’s coaching staff as data analystThis journalist understands the modern game. A rare find in Pakistan cricket.
Multan didn’t score 230 courtesy of Rizwan. His batting had them at 180-200.If a team losses from 230+ score, than the issue isnt batting its bowling.
It seems like @Rana wanted Rizwan to score 280 in a t20 game..........
So the guy who score 100+ runs was the reason why his team got to 234? Salam to your logicMultan didn’t score 230 courtesy of Rizwan. His batting had them at 180-200.
They got to 230 because of
-extras. Too many of them
-Kamran Ghulam
-Michael Bracewell
Kamran and Bracewell batted properly on this deck. Usman Khan looked like he wanted to get on with it but got out early.
Rizwan did contribute with a 50 off 22 balls later on, but his middle overs nudging when he was the set batsman as the opener was pathetic. They lost the game right here. He scored 20 off 20 balls or something along these lines after the powerplay.
216 - QuettaSo the guy who score 100+ runs was the reason why his team got to 234? Salam to your logic
you do know 234 is not a score made everday in t20 right?
Major doesn’t watch cricket besides SNGPL and Pakistan216 - Quetta
234 - Multan
236 - Karachi
245 - Pune
247 - Sunrisers
These scores were made by 5 separate teams across 2 countries all on 12/04/2025.
It is no longer as rare or unique as you are thinking.
The same issue is with Saud Shaqeel216 - Quetta
234 - Multan
236 - Karachi
245 - Pune
247 - Sunrisers
These scores were made by 5 separate teams across 2 countries all on 12/04/2025.
It is no longer as rare or unique as you are thinking.
Anyone watching the game and know about cricket, but would know there was dew later on and you cannot compare two batsmen play against each other as they face different bowlers. Both innings were good.This journalist understands the modern game. A rare find in Pakistan cricket.
Anyone watching the game and know about cricket, but would know there was dew later on and you cannot compare two batsmen play against each other as they face different bowlers. Both innings were good.
Look at the context from which he is critisizing Rizwan. Once a team goes over 200 run, the batting has done its job, its the bowlijg unit that needs to defend it.216 - Quetta
234 - Multan
236 - Karachi
245 - Pune
247 - Sunrisers
These scores were made by 5 separate teams across 2 countries all on 12/04/2025.
It is no longer as rare or unique as you are thinking.
Who said this? Misbah in 2009?Once a team goes over 200 run, the batting has done its job
Who said this? Misbah in 2009?
They scored 234 despite Rizwan, not because of him. Using basic maths, If entire team played with same strike rate as Rizwan, team would have score 208.So the guy who score 100+ runs was the reason why his team got to 234? Salam to your logic
you do know 234 is not a score made everday in t20 right?
not everyone scores at the same strike rate if you use logic.They scored 234 despite Rizwan, not because of him. Using basic maths, If entire team played with same strike rate as Rizwan, team would have score 208.
Rizwan is a wicket keeper batsman who plays in the team for his keeping and batting. Azam and Haris hacks are his alternatives, but I know which one I rather play for Pakistan.I have watched enough of Rizwan to know that he is incapable of playing the knock that Vince played. Why?
Because he doesn't have the shot range like the Englishman does. Rizwan's offside game is whackkkk.
Because you are an mutma’in loser.Rizwan is a wicket keeper batsman who plays in the team for his keeping and batting. Azam and Haris hacks are his alternatives, but I know which one I rather play for Pakistan.
At some point we should wonder why other teams have players who can win matches but our Babar and Rizwan do their job and then depend on middle order to hit out of the park or bowlers to come in and play wonderfully. Will they never be able to step up on their own?Look at the context from which he is critisizing Rizwan. Once a team goes over 200 run, the batting has done its job, its the bowlijg unit that needs to defend it.
It is almost criminal in modern day cricket to consume more than half of the allotted balls and still striking at 165. Then again, not my circus, not my monkeys, you folks enjoy.not everyone scores at the same strike rate if you use logic.
Bro you are not getting the point.At some point we should wonder why other teams have players who can win matches but our Babar and Rizwan do their job and then depend on middle order to hit out of the park or bowlers to come in and play wonderfully. Will they never be able to step up on their own?
Bowlers have accountability - Jordan didn't do well in particular. But Rizwan cannot be absolved from criticism either.Bro you are not getting the point.
When do you make the bowlers accountable?
Once you go 200+, its the bowlers job to defend it.
If bowlers cant defend 234, than whats the point of playing 4 maim bowlers and not just add part timers instead
No it hasn't. It still depends on the pitch. Regardless, Multan went over that mark because of Bracewell 's high impact finishing rather than Rizwan's average knock.Look at the context from which he is critisizing Rizwan. Once a team goes over 200 run, the batting has done its job, its the bowlijg unit that needs to defend it.
Yes, unselfish players need to cover for selfish players' lower strike rates.not everyone scores at the same strike rate if you use logic.
Agree..but the same Rizwan if put to chase the same total could not chase like Vince or Abhishek did..he would have definitely bottled under pressure..Look at the context from which he is critisizing Rizwan. Once a team goes over 200 run, the batting has done its job, its the bowlijg unit that needs to defend it.
Rizwan is a wicket keeper batsman who plays in the team for his keeping and batting. Azam and Haris hacks are his alternatives, but I know which one I rather play for Pakistan.