“You (Babar) and Rizwan are very good players, excellent players but you are not the whole team.”: Mohammad Hafeez

[BouncerGuy]

These 2 players have been carrying the team for a long and since their form has declined, people have come to hunt them swinging their swords. Babar playing at number 3 was a good move indeed but Rizwan's form at the top is still questionable.

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Mohammad Hafeez speaking on a local sports channel:

"It took me about two months to convince Babar Azam that you have to do it for Pakistan and you are not the first one who's doing it. You are a great player, you are a wonderful player and you are playing great cricket however you have to develop Pakistan team. You and Rizwan are very good players, excellent players but you are not the whole team. We need to develop a team and for that I want you to come at number 3 because you have been playing this role in the ODI cricket for last six years, so it won't affect you; technically you are very solid,"

"Thank you very much to him that he accepted this and he played for Pakistan at number 3 which obviously I think is the best way to move,"
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[BouncerGuy]

Why not move Rizwan down the order as well and try Sahibzada Farhan and Fakhar/saim at the top. Babar is fine at 3, he has done well at that number. The only question is Rizwan now.

 

[Rana]

What did Rizwan say? Why didn’t he move but Babar did after 2 months of negotiations with his management company

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Players should bat wherever the management decides. Nobody is bigger than the team.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

I dont understand why Hafeez suddenly turned into Maulana Fazlur Rehman right after his resignation.... criticizing everything that he never spoke about when he was with the team.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Hafeez making headlines every day

 

[Slim]

Took him 2 months to convince Babar to play for Pakistan’s benefit. Goes on to show how selfish these so called paper kings are.

 

[Rana]

Took him 2 months to convince Babar to play for Pakistan’s benefit. Goes on to show how selfish these so called paper kings are.

And he didn’t manage to convince Rizwan

Why did he have to convince anyone?

 

[Slim]

And he didn’t manage to convince Rizwan

Why did he have to convince anyone?

Player power in Pakistan cricket team is cancerous.

 

[Markhor]

I blame Ramiz for inflating this so-called King's ego out of proportion - saying "he is no less than Don Bradman" etc.

After mediocre and impactless displays in the 2022 Asia Cup, 2022 World T20, 2023 Asia Cup, and 2023 World Cup, you'd think Babar would've develop some flexibility earlier than now.

It's interesting that while Babar was a soft touch with fitness and prolonged periods of poor form - speak to him about his T20 batting position and THAT'S when he bears his teeth.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Hafeez became a Maulana Fazlrur Rehman of Pakistan Cricket after losing his job.

 

[Kianig89]

Hafeez should rather look for some decent job than acting as a step mother, what did he achieved as a Director got blanked in every series

 

[Dr_Bassim]

So he is saying the truth and fans are angry at this.

I dont know how delusional can people be to think Rizwan and Babar opening will still peform and win us the WC because they performed against C class attacks of similar teams in bilaterals.

There should be an IQ challenge for anyone who believes that this pair solves Pakistani opening problem and helps Pakistan win tournaments.

 

[SamNJ]

Took him 2 months to convince Babar to play for Pakistan’s benefit. Goes on to show how selfish these so called paper kings are.

How true it can be when he was head coach for only 1 month ?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

How true it can be when he was head coach for only 1 month ?

He has been with the team for more than 2 months but yeah he is exaggerating a bit here.

 

[topspin]

I blame Ramiz for inflating this so-called King's ego out of proportion - saying "he is no less than Don Bradman" etc.

After mediocre and impactless displays in the 2022 Asia Cup, 2022 World T20, 2023 Asia Cup, and 2023 World Cup, you'd think Babar would've develop some flexibility earlier than now.

It's interesting that while Babar was a soft touch with fitness and prolonged periods of poor form - speak to him about his T20 batting position and THAT'S when he bears his teeth.

Couldn’t have put it better. Top post

 

[topspin]

So he is saying the truth and fans are angry at this.

I dont know how delusional can people be to think Rizwan and Babar opening will still peform and win us the WC because they performed against C class attacks of similar teams in bilaterals.

There should be an IQ challenge for anyone who believes that this pair solves Pakistani opening problem and helps Pakistan win tournaments.

Couldn’t agree more but according to Babar’s biggest fan on PP, anyone who doesn’t approve of Rizbar can never appreciate their greatness because “it’s like teaching calculus to a 5 year old.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yeah, Babar should have been playing at number 3 way earlier than he did recently but the Rizbar combo was doing much better than the latest failed experimentation. Still early days but now it is time to move the Farhan and saim/fakhar combo up the order and riz should come at 4 if not 5 or 6.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Yeah, Babar should have been playing at number 3 way earlier than he did recently but the Rizbar combo was doing much better than the latest failed experimentation. Still early days but now it is time to move the Farhan and saim/fakhar combo up the order and riz should come at 4 if not 5 or 6.

but its always a difficult ask to break the wining combination because if gets backfire then nobody takes the responsibility.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Stopped reading when Hafeez used the term "excellent" to describe Rizwan

 

[mumtaz]

I don't understand the level of criticism that Rizbar receive. With them opening, we have made the semis of the 2021 T20 WC and the final of the 2022 T20 WC.

Beyond the semis, there's quite a bit of luck involved e.g. the Hasan Ali dropped catch in 2021 semi or the Shaheen injury in the 2022 final. With a little bit of luck, we could have won at least one of the two tournaments.

 

[BouncerGuy]

but its always a difficult ask to break the wining combination because if gets backfire then nobody takes the responsibility.

Yeah, it is difficult but the pair was out of form for some time so people were calling for this change. The results are not good so far. Let's see if Farhan can find his way on top with fakhar and Rizwan can come at 4.

 

[Slim]

I don't understand the level of criticism that Rizbar receive. With them opening, we have made the semis of the 2021 T20 WC and the final of the 2022 T20 WC.

Beyond the semis, there's quite a bit of luck involved e.g. the Hasan Ali dropped catch in 2021 semi or the Shaheen injury in the 2022 final. With a little bit of luck, we could have won at least one of the two tournaments.

We made the semis and finals despite them not because of them.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Okay, let's give them (Babar & Rizwan) some rest and play a series... the results will speak for themselves whether they are a whole team or not.

 

[Rana]

Okay, let's give them (Babar & Rizwan) some rest and play a series... the results will speak for themselves whether they are a whole team or not.

Not a series.

Give them a rest for 6 months into the World Cup

Pakistan will probably win the World Cup

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Not a series.

Give them a rest for 6 months into the World Cup

Pakistan will probably win the World Cup

Yes we gave them rest in the series against Afganistan last year, we lost that series 2-1

 

[ask_analyse_act]

These 2 players have been carrying the team for a long and since their form has declined, people have come to hunt them swinging their swords. Babar playing at number 3 was a good move indeed but Rizwan's form at the top is still questionable.

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Mohammad Hafeez speaking on a local sports channel:

"It took me about two months to convince Babar Azam that you have to do it for Pakistan and you are not the first one who's doing it. You are a great player, you are a wonderful player and you are playing great cricket however you have to develop Pakistan team. You and Rizwan are very good players, excellent players but you are not the whole team. We need to develop a team and for that I want you to come at number 3 because you have been playing this role in the ODI cricket for last six years, so it won't affect you; technically you are very solid,"

"Thank you very much to him that he accepted this and he played for Pakistan at number 3 which obviously I think is the best way to move,"
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Totally agree with what Hafeez said here... Thats how the team is built...

Very good point from hafeez that "excellent players but you are not the whole team"... Babar and Rizwan with this mindset playing half the balls of every match scoring half the runs at less SR and leaving the rest to nobody players like Ifthikar , Asif ali, Azam khan , Shadab , Imad Wasim is laughable

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Fascinating how we are just not producing good middle order batters. I struggle to understand why PCB aren't being more proactive. You know there is a skills gap here, how you going to fill it?

At the moment the solution is to send in the big boy?

Also looks like they only watch PSL matches and pick based off that so what are the selectors doing day to day? Anyone know?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

"Whatever they are playing is not cricket and when someone criticizes them then these players play the mantra..."Please support us we are in the midst of a tournament" and all sort of rambling etc"
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[Bhaijaan]

"Whatever they are playing is not cricket and when someone criticizes them then these players play the mantra..."Please support us we are in the midst of a tournament" and all sort of rambling etc"
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Vol 3.0 wouldn’t have played like that. We all know that.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

"Whatever they are playing is not cricket and when someone criticizes them then these players play the mantra..."Please support us we are in the midst of a tournament" and all sort of rambling etc"
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bhai lakin our king is dheet... usay koi farq nahi parta

 

[The Bald Eagle]

bhai lakin our king is dheet... usay koi farq nahi parta

Our King is just like Kohli....PR King

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Our King is just like Kohli....PR King

Kohli has 3 ICC trophies and dominated Tests.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Why didn't selectors pick players from Pakistan shaheens squad.

They beat Bangla in a warm up
They beat Afghanistan in the warm up by 150 runs

They narrowly lost a high scoring thriller against south africa in a warm up

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Kohli has 3 ICC trophies and dominated Tests.

This way Babar has CT 2017 too and top ICC rankings for 3 years

 

[GLORY OF '92]

This way Babar has CT 2017 too and top ICC rankings for 3 years

Not at all. Babar didn't contribute to CT win and he has at most 1 or 2 important innings in his whole career

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Not at all. Babar didn't contribute to CT win and he has at most 1 or 2 important innings in his whole career

Ok how come Virat did any good besides his genuine contributions in CT 2013

 

[Slim]

Hafeez was ahead of his time and true fans know what he wanted to say but could not due to the sheer propaganda of the Saya PR machine.

Rizwan and Babar are simply not good enough.

 

[charlie007]

Ok how come Virat did any good besides his genuine contributions in CT 2013

Does getting the MoM give out any indications? I don’t need to remind you of his impact in high pressure matches.

 

[pakistani pride]

This way Babar has CT 2017 too and top ICC rankings for 3 years

Serious question, forget the ICC trophies, you think Babar is even 10% of the player Kohli is?

 

[m.shah]

He has zilch in his career

 

[Theanonymousone]

Someone needs to remind Babar that despite all his PR, he is nowhere near best in the world. He doesnt have the technique and shots to play according to the situation and is a very one-dimensional player.

All the artificial hype built around him needs to go away for him to focus on building his game. I dont see any improvements in his game.

Despite all the criticism, Kohli is in his last legs of his career at 36 and his peak is one of the best, the game has ever seen. He dominated attacks all around the world. Even bow, he doesnt possess the same ability, but he is better than Babar and that tells you something.

India doenst depend on Kohli now and so should Pakistan.

Pakistan’s opening combination has been almost NIL for the past 5 years, while top order hasnt performed well. Middle order and lower middle order is non-existent. But atleast Salman has showed some promise.

Rather than saying Babar and Rizwan are not the whole team, where is the whole team to be honest?? PCB selection committee has shown zero intent to build the team till now except for Saim.

 

[mominsaigol]

Ok how come Virat did any good besides his genuine contributions in CT 2013

Virat kohli's issue is that he declined from all formats, however that doesn't mean his peak wasn't excellent.

At his peak he was the 3rd best test batsmen of his era behind Steve smith and YK. Currently he's not even top 25, but he had a peak.

In odi hes a proven tournament performer and the few bi laterals that have been taken seriously such as Australia vs India, he's dominated. He's only flunked Pakistan 2012 bilateral and few others like England but otherwise he's played well.

Babar azam never had a peak. He was always a rubbish test player and in odi he at his peak was just okay. His peak was 2019 and every single batter from England's 2019 side was better then him lol.

Roy, Hales, Root, Bairstow, Morgan, Stokes, Butler

^^ Their 2019 forms were > Peak 2019 Babar in odi lol. Babar was only > Moeen ali but moeen ali was a No 7 batsmen .