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12-man squad announced, no Shoaib Malik, Shaheen Shah Afridi or Mohammad Hasnain against West Indies

Poor team selection 😡
Wahab Riaz is terrible and Malik should play each n every game in this WC.
No one in Pak team can play an innings like he did against afgh in Asia cup,i mean ateast hes capable, plus hes still swift in the field
 
Ahmed216 said:
Poor team selection ��
Wahab Riaz is terrible and Malik should play each n every game in this WC.
No one in Pak team can play an innings like he did against afgh in Asia cup,i mean ateast hes capable, plus hes still swift in the field
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Excellent decision on Malik. Unhappy about playing wahab, but their hand is forced, because that's why he was selected. They will drop wahab most likely for the rest of the tournament if he has a bad day.
 
Malik not being selected is the right call but if we lose I fear he maybe thrown straight into the next game and that would be against England who have Archer.

I think the final place is between, Haris and Asif Ali. Shadab will surely start as the think tank has talked a lot about having a leg spinner.
 
Very surprised to see that Malik hasn't been selected in the XII. Finally the management are making some tough decisions.
 
It's a good 12 for an opening match of a major tournament.

Malik has been misfiring of late and the 2 young pacers will get their chance later in the tournament.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Poor team selection 😡
Wahab Riaz is terrible and Malik should play each n every game in this WC.
No one in Pak team can play an innings like he did against afgh in Asia cup,i mean ateast hes capable, plus hes still swift in the field
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I’m not sure if you’re telling with your malik comments or not
 
That's great squad for opening game...

Finally making sane decisions of not including Malik, for now atleast.

An interesting twist can be playing Haris instead of Imad to give more stability to batting but I have a feeling Windies may find difficult to play Imad if he bowls well and if pitch provides some assistance.
 
Imad out. We need an additional batsman in the form of Haris Sohail.

Hafeez, Haris and Fakhar make up the 10 overs.
 
Let's drop the guy who's been Pakistan's best ODI bowler since his debut.

Reminder: Shaheen took 4 wickets in his last ODI, while Amir has taken 4 wickets in the last two years.
 
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Sarfarazian92 said:
Let's drop the guy who's been Pakistan's best ODI bowler since his debut.

Reminder: Shaheen took 4 wickets in his last ODI, while Amir has taken 4 wickets in the last two years.
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Shaheen's just not feeling it.
Very low on confidence. He's performed horribly against eng.do you actually want to completely break him down??
Play him against Sri lanka and get his confidence back.
 
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Sarfarazian92 said:
Lakh lanat bc.

Let's drop the guy who's been Pakistan's best ODI bowler since his debut.

Reminder: Shaheen took 4 wickets in his last ODI, while Amir has taken 4 wickets in the last two years.
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Reminder: Shaheen went for 80+ in his last 3 ODIs plus a 6 over 51 against Afg in warmup...:inti
 
Its the first game out of 9. The team wont stay the same throughout. NO need to feel bad for anyone lol
 
big call to drop malik but i wouldnt play asif over haris at all...as a matter of fact i would play both.and drop imad
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Shaheen's just not feeling it.
Very low on confidence. He's performed horribly against eng.do you actually want to completely break him down??
Play him against Sri lanka and get his confidence back.
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He's the only bowler in the squad who can swing the new ball. Amir's back of a length 130kph thunderbolts aren't going to trouble the Windies.

He's an international cricketer; he'd have learned a ton by getting smacked against England. Our match tomorrow is possibly one of the four 'winnable' matches we have in the round robin stage, and we've just reduced our chances of winning by dropping the only bowler who has consistently taken wickets over the past 12 months.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
Everyone got smacked in the England series. Shaheen might be expensive, but he'll bag a few wickets as well.
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Shaheen will definitely get his chance in later games, based on recent performances this squad looks fine. Shaheen needed a break, usually he comes back strong after a break.
 
Amir bhai will win the hearts of the nation tomorrow with his sensational figures of 10-0-52-0.
 
PakPremi said:
People overestimating Asif. He is basically just a slogger, although he has improved his game recently but I would prefer a proper batsman over him like Haris. Asif st best would give you a quick 50, but Haris could score 100 at good rate. They both terrible fielders, with Asif having done more blunders in recent series, some could be excused for the tragedy he was going through.
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We don’t have any power hitter. Even if he is a slogger he needs to be in for hitting. We have no one else
 
Haris will have to be excluded, with Asif Ali batting at 6 and Sarfraz above him at 5.

Can't believe Hasnain is not going to be picked but TTF Riaz gets yet another world cup game. What a shambles.
 
One of Shadab or Imad should be dropped from this 12.
 
People who are claiming for Asif to be dropped are out of their minds. There's a very specific reason as to why he got included in the squad after not being an initial part of it, because the management realized he's the only batsman we have who's different than the rest of the accumulator brigade. In a high scoring tournament, which this is going to be, Asif is a must. There is no way he's going to be dropped throughout this tournament from the playing XI, barring a lack of runs.

It's going to be between Imad and Shadab tomorrow. Imad is going to be the one to make way, as Shadab is the only proper spin bowler we have. Hafeez can easily do the Imad role for us, with Fakhar and Haris sharing the 6th bowler duty.
 
Hafeez will be in for Harris due to his bowling and the amount of lefties wi have. Although, imo haris is just as good as hafeez and provides more stability with the bat than hafeez.
 
It’s time to back our boys.. uhh... , boysies.. so put on the green caps and get your tasbeehein out and start praying.. and happy thoughts for those included even if they ain’t ya favorites!

Let’s go Men In Green!
 
Sherazkhalid said:
I would say keep Asif in, guy seems to be in a better touch than Haris.
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Just a hunch but I think far more chance of Haris scoring runs than Asif. While Asif is a big hitter, he doesn't judge the right ones to hit so well, I can see him getting out quickly after hitting a couple of boundaries, whereas Haris plays according to the the line and length better.
 
Not a good time to be a pak fan at the moment when wahab & co are going all around the park tomorrow . Shaheen is going to seem like wasim akram & Husnain waqar younis, when in reality theyr as rubbish as wahab & co.
 
AAli98 said:
Not a good time to be a pak fan at the moment when wahab & co are going all around the park tomorrow . Shaheen is going to seem like wasim akram & Husnain waqar younis, when in reality theyr as rubbish as wahab & co.
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It’s not their fault that your Coach sold a dummy to your passionate fans too early. And, your CS picked some kids directly to WC, after spending ZIM reserves to pad up Faheem’s stats.

Shaheen in now extremely low in confidence and WIN (AFG as well) isn’t the team to bowl against when inexperienced bowler is low in confidence- his perfectly bowled out-swing might end in squire-leg crowd. I am sure, Shaheen has a big role to play in later stages if PAK is to make SF, but right now he needs some time off from lime light, practice hard and focus on working batsmen out, rather than blasting them.

For PP and PCT, I can suggest one tips (from my tundler link) - take out speed gun from PAK games & practice sessions; it’s perverting your pacers.

The playing XII is near perfect - I would have picked Malik instead of Asif for his 10 overs of classic finger off-spin against 5-6 aggressive lefty in WIN line up.
 
Lynx said:
People who are claiming for Asif to be dropped are out of their minds. There's a very specific reason as to why he got included in the squad after not being an initial part of it, because the management realized he's the only batsman we have who's different than the rest of the accumulator brigade. In a high scoring tournament, which this is going to be, Asif is a must. There is no way he's going to be dropped throughout this tournament from the playing XI, barring a lack of runs.

It's going to be between Imad and Shadab tomorrow. Imad is going to be the one to make way, as Shadab is the only proper spin bowler we have. Hafeez can easily do the Imad role for us, with Fakhar and Haris sharing the 6th bowler duty.
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Funnily enough, Imad is the only bowler who I can see getting wickets tomorrow, he has a decent record against Windies I think, and if he can pitch a few more off breaks he will cause some confusion. If he tries to get away with 90% arm balls like he has a habit of when he gets too comfortable, he will get destroyed.
 
I'm cool with this side...

For all those clamouring for Shaheen he has been absolutely tonked in his last few games...the Zazai thing sealed his fate really...with the Windies lineup he could go for 80 again...Amir at least can keep the runs down...

What I guess is a concern is where the wicket takers are...

Malik seems a fair enough decision...i'd go with Asif who will tonk Windies bowling attack...and Hafeez will be a useful bowling option...so I guess Haris misses out...
 
Imad cannot be dropped against WI. He's the only bowler who can run through their line-up. Imad, along with Shadab, are the only hope if we are to keep WI under 300.

Haaris would be dropped. Unfortunate, but that's the only option
 
MMHS said:
It’s not their fault that your Coach sold a dummy to your passionate fans too early. And, your CS picked some kids directly to WC, after spending ZIM reserves to pad up Faheem’s stats.

Shaheen in now extremely low in confidence and WIN (AFG as well) isn’t the team to bowl against when inexperienced bowler is low in confidence- his perfectly bowled out-swing might end in squire-leg crowd. I am sure, Shaheen has a big role to play in later stages if PAK is to make SF, but right now he needs some time off from lime light, practice hard and focus on working batsmen out, rather than blasting them.

For PP and PCT, I can suggest one tips (from my tundler link) - take out speed gun from PAK games & practice sessions; it’s perverting your pacers.

The playing XII is near perfect - I would have picked Malik instead of Asif for his 10 overs of classic finger off-spin against 5-6 aggressive lefty in WIN line up.
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Shahen definitely is a very talented bowler and is better than Wahab and Amir


It’s a pity that his loss of form and confidence has coincided with the World Cup :(
 
Khwaja78 said:
Still better than middle order batsman(Shoaib Malik) of 17 years career with average of 14 in UK.

Rofl what a reason for Inzi to select him.
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Im not a fan of maliks, but i would pick him against the spin heavy asian sides, as malik, hafeez and safi are the only ones in our team who can play top quality spin bowling. Against SENA teams i would drop him for haris.
 
MMHS said:
The playing XII is near perfect - I would have picked Malik instead of Asif for his 10 overs of classic finger off-spin against 5-6 aggressive lefty in WIN line up.
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Whatta brilliant suggestion rofl!!!

Can you tell me last time when Shoaib Malik bowled 10 overs in a match?

Asif is'nt fantastic but still better than this loser Malik who is in the team due to connections than performances.

CS Inzamam mafia groupies are more than the kids he selected, likes of "Hafeez, Malik and Wahab there to screw our chances.

Arthur insistence on Faheem is due to Inzamam not picking a solid hitter batsman in 3 years of his term and concentrated on Akmal family and his nephew only.
 
Yes this is the new Windies that has the ability to match England's firepower, but I still think they are a bit weak against spin, esp Gayle and Lewis.
Plus it's always good to have bowlers who can quickly bowl the overs in the middle part and stem the run flow which will give the pacers something of a cushion. But Amir and Hassan both need to strike early and not go for the defensive route from the start because if they have wickets in hand, they can score A LOT of runs in the last 10 15 overs. 2014 wt20 match and 2015wc encounter remember? :(

I do hope that our fielders hold on to their catches and show some energy in the field rather than doing jalebi chases.
 
Haris is a must if we are chasing a score. Hafeez should bat at no. 6.

We will win this one easily.
 
Interesting our best pacer in ODI's in the past year isn't selected. But I see why they would go with Wahab. Amir on the other hand I hate to say it but he's been mediocre. Not even picking up wickets against Afghanistan. I hope he proves me wrong today, and takes a fifer as I'm a huge fan of his of course. Nice that they dropped Malik too.
 
Surprised by the calls to leave out Imad...i reckon he'll take the most wickets for us tomorrow ...definitely see him slipping a couple through the gate...
 
Sidilicious said:
So 20 overs will need to be bowled by spinners? If the conditions are overcast, it might not be ideal.

Also, hasn’t Afridi been your best bowler lately. He should have started before Wahab.
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Would have been a gamble but potentially one worth taking, if it was gonna be overcast and swing, he would have swung it.
It's a tough choice, let's hope it's the right one
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Pakistan’s tail essentially starts at 5.
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A little hyperbolic that...i'd say Pakistan actually have quite a long batting lineup...not England but all of our tail can hit...

Your top order is better but you guys have a genuine tail...
 
Haris should bat at 4

Hafeez can't be trusted to bat at 4 at all, he is simply not good enough
 
That’s the squad I would’ve selected as well. As much as I like Haris, I don’t see how he fits into the 11 without compromising on bowling
 
aliasad1998 said:
And on today’s match thread this guy was saying that others don’t know cricket :)))
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It's sad how fans have been reduced to supporting the team based on their agendas. It's become even worse than when Afridi used to be in the team.
 
Imad is a must for tmrw Against weaker spin teams like windies his wicket to wicket bowling should hopefully be destructive
 
Asif playing over Malik is sweet. What's even better, though, is that Malik isn't even the 12th man.
 
shah_1 said:
Hafeez has been averaging 32 since CT.

Batting is more important for no 4. Select your BEST batsman at no 4
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Hafeez has utility at number 5 or 6

Ideally Haris should be number 4 and we should not put too much faith in Asif’s slogging
 
Finally Management showing some brain.Best thing is to analyse each opposition and play your team accordingly.
 
Haris will most likely sit out. With the way the current squad is you can only fit one of Hafeez or Malik. Son-in-law is the calmer and wiser batsman you need around our youngsta beauties but the Professor (if the stars align and/or firing on all cylinders) as a batsman can take away a game much quicker from the opposition. Tough call.
 
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam ul Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Sarfaraz Ahmad
6. Mohammad Hafeez
7. Imad Wasim
8. Shadab Khan
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Wahab Riaz

This should be the team for tmrw
 
sshakir411 said:
Haris will most likely sit out. With the way the current squad is you can only fit one of Hafeez or Malik. Son-in-law is the calmer and wiser batsman you need around our youngsta beauties but the Professor (if the stars align and/or firing on all cylinders) as a batsman can take away a game much quicker from the opposition. Tough call.
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Hafeez is much better than Malik his only issue is that he wants to bat at 4, which is neither good for him nor the team
 
shah_1 said:
Hafeez has been averaging 32 since CT.

Batting is more important for no 4. Select your BEST batsman at no 4
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He's had some decent scores and he did well in the Saffa series...scored quickly too...against the Windies he's not a bad shout...

Haris I'd save for the better bowling sides...
 
Good decision to sit Malik out of this one because he really struggles against genuine pace and Windies have got genuine pace. Malik needs to play against the likes of Afghanistan, India, SL who rely more on spinners.
 
For me the one that should sit out is Imam, Hafeez or Babar can open. Haris is good against pace and we need Asif and Imad down the order. This way we don't compromise on bowling and can sit out one accumulator. Imam is the weakest link.
 
Looks like Asif will get the nod ahead of Haris. They would want to keep Hafeez as the senior guy in the team. Although playing Haris over Hafeez should be the way to go. Haris' bowling is better than Hafeez.
 
daytrader said:
For me the one that should sit out is Imam, Hafeez or Babar can open. Haris is good against pace and we need Asif and Imad down the order. This way we don't compromise on bowling and can sit out one accumulator. Imam is the weakest link.
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This is a WC match. We're not playing Sri lanka in a bilateral series where rest Imam.
Imam is the second best batter in our team after babar.
 
Surprised they actually dropped the experienced Malik. Good on them. Hafeez I feel could play, he is good against left armers but also, it would be harsh on dropping Haris/Asif. Let's see what they do.
 
I want Haris to play but I think he will be dropped. Spin will be key against the Windies, so Imad and Shadab will play for sure. Hafeez also needs to play because they have 4 lefties, and we need an offie. Between Asif and Haris, we probably need Asif's power hitting more, considering we already have more accumulators than we need. The other option is to play Haris, and make Hafeez bat at 6, as a hitter.
 
its a fight between Haris and Hafeez....I don't have an opinion but maybe Hafeez will sit out this one. lots of games coming up.

Guys no point in showing stats of whom did what and when....it's all good but most important thing in selection here is going to be go-with-gut-feeling and picking players who are in the best form.

I feel many will agree that Amir at this point is in the team not for picking wickets but containing runs. is that the right way to go? but then again, who will be our wicket taker to take his place?
 
Saj said:
It's a good 12 for an opening match of a major tournament.

Malik has been misfiring of late and the 2 young pacers will get their chance later in the tournament.
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Twenty overs of spin at Trent Bridge?

How does that work?
 
Afridi missing is a surprise. Two of the 3 bowlers picked in the 12 average 92.6 and 42.4 overs the last 18 months and the third hasn't played ODI for 2 years. Imad Wasim's average is 63 in the same time. So this does not look good for Pakistan if West Indies get off to a good start.
 
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