12-man squad announced, no Shoaib Malik, Shaheen Shah Afridi or Mohammad Hasnain against West Indies

[Dr_Bassim]

Twenty overs of spin at Trent Bridge?

How does that work?

Curious.

Are u saying they should have more spin?

Or less spin?

 

[Sunny_majoka]

I am sure , its between imad and asif ali.
I don't know in what frame of mind asif ali is. But i want him in playing 11

 

[mon858]

Surprised by the calls to leave out Imad...i reckon he'll take the most wickets for us tomorrow ...definitely see him slipping a couple through the gate...

I disagree he does much better against righties than lefties. So I would prefer to play haris also. Also small ground he can be hit for 5 6 sixes and there goes his use. Better to play haris who will at least turn the ball.

 

[Junaids]

Curious.

Are u saying they should have more spin?

Or less spin?

Trent Bridge is traditionally a citadel of seam and swing bowling. It's one place where Pakistan will miss Faheem Ashraf.

It's a small ground, and spin bowling often ends up in the River Trent.

But on these grassless wickets with seamless balls, I think you need pace and height to avoid punishment. I would have had Shaheen Shah Afridi as a definite starter.

If I wanted to win a match at Trent Bridge, my team would look totally different to the squad, let alone the team!

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
5. Umar Akmal
6. Asif Ali
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Shahid Shah Afridi

 

[MMHS]

Whatta brilliant suggestion rofl!!!

Can you tell me last time when Shoaib Malik bowled 10 overs in a match?

Asif is'nt fantastic but still better than this loser Malik who is in the team due to connections than performances.

CS Inzamam mafia groupies are more than the kids he selected, likes of "Hafeez, Malik and Wahab there to screw our chances.

Arthur insistence on Faheem is due to Inzamam not picking a solid hitter batsman in 3 years of his term and concentrated on Akmal family and his nephew only.

Malik doesn't bowl enough is PAK's problem, he should have bowled more. My point was there is not off-spinner in PAK squad and WIN genuinely struggles against Offies. Wahab probably makes the squad on merit as the options are limited, but yes I won't have picked other two beyond 18 July 2017.

 

[Asif321]

Hope Malik doesn’t make any drama of it
Then we will hear in media Mallik fighting with coach

 

[Chokli]

Trent Bridge is traditionally a citadel of seam and swing bowling. It's one place where Pakistan will miss Faheem Ashraf.

It's a small ground, and spin bowling often ends up in the River Trent.

But on these grassless wickets with seamless balls, I think you need pace and height to avoid punishment. I would have had Shaheen Shah Afridi as a definite starter.

If I wanted to win a match at Trent Bridge, my team would look totally different to the squad, let alone the team!

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
5. Umar Akmal
6. Asif Ali
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Shahid Shah Afridi

Lol Shadab and Faheem at 7 and 8 respectively.



How can someone know so much about cricket yet make this blunder?

 

[MMHS]

Trent Bridge is traditionally a citadel of seam and swing bowling. It's one place where Pakistan will miss Faheem Ashraf.

It's a small ground, and spin bowling often ends up in the River Trent.

But on these grassless wickets with seamless balls, I think you need pace and height to avoid punishment. I would have had Shaheen Shah Afridi as a definite starter.

If I wanted to win a match at Trent Bridge, my team would look totally different to the squad, let alone the team!

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Rizwan (wk)
5. Umar Akmal
6. Asif Ali
7. Shadab Khan
8. Faheem Ashraf
9. Mohammad Amir
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Shahid Shah Afridi

Good XI, though not sure what Faheem will do - he is just not good enough to fill the No. 8 role. Considering WIN's weakness against spin & Imad's success against them, I'll replace Imad for Faheem. 3 left arm pacers are too risky against like 6 left-handers - added Imad & Shadab also takes ball inwards to lefti, I'll pick Hasan here, but not sure whom to drop.

Who is your Captain if Sarfraz is dropped - I'll take Amir.

 

[Chokli]

Good XI, though not sure what Faheem will do - he is just not good enough to fill the No. 8 role. Considering WIN's weakness against spin & Imad's success against them, I'll replace Imad for Faheem. 3 left arm pacers are too risky against like 6 left-handers - added Imad & Shadab also takes ball inwards to lefti, I'll pick Hasan here, but not sure whom to drop.

Who is your Captain if Sarfraz is dropped - I'll take Amir.

It is a decent line up up until Shadab at 7.

Why would you have 3 pacers when you were pushing 2 pacers and as many spinners as possible

 

[mak36]

Lol, debate best combinations of the 12, not fantasy XIs the morning of the match.

 

[shaykh]

I disagree he does much better against righties than lefties. So I would prefer to play haris also. Also small ground he can be hit for 5 6 sixes and there goes his use. Better to play haris who will at least turn the ball.

We'll likely open with him against Hope...

 

[MMHS]

It is a decent line up up until Shadab at 7.

Why would you have 3 pacers when you were pushing 2 pacers and as many spinners as possible

I won't, but it's his squad.
[MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] coming from traditional thinking of that Trentbridge of Broad, Andesron, RJ Hadlee, Rice to Larwood of past, but days have changed - it's not old Trentbridge any more, today 444, 484 sort of scores happen there in 50 overs and Poms chased 350 like inside 40 overs!!!! Spin has to play big role these days, more so against WIN and Imad is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better batsman than Faheem, bowler as well, so no question here.

I would have picked Malik/Hafeez for the off-spin option in his squad and drop one of the lefti loose cannon; Amir leads the side. But squad of 12 is declared - it has to be within.

 

[Ali_Pakistan]

Haris to miss out.
Hafeez to open the bowling with Amir.

 

[pakteam#1]

pak team missing crucial players

Abid ali - opener

khushdil shah - middle order

zafar gohar- left arm spinner

usman shinwari - left arm medium fast

the above players would have definitely helped pakistan.

 

[Captain caveman]

Abid ali - opener

khushdil shah - middle order

zafar gohar- left arm spinner

usman shinwari - left arm medium fast

the above players would have definitely helped pakistan.

Meh
Imam opener

M. Hafeez middle order

Shadab right arm legbreak spin bowler

Wahab left arm fast bowler



I prefer my list!

 

[Captain caveman]

Have a feeling that IF pak win today, hafeez will be man of the match.

 

[Captain caveman]

For me the one that should sit out is Imam, Hafeez or Babar can open. Haris is good against pace and we need Asif and Imad down the order. This way we don't compromise on bowling and can sit out one accumulator. Imam is the weakest link.

I agree imam should be left out. Open with haris and fakhar. But this is NEVER going to happen. Mickey will leave out haris.

 

[Shafi]

Can anyone please tell why Arthur announce the team earlier so the opposition can narrow their home work against our batsmen and bowlers.

 

[OmaIR1]

Malik averages 14 in england

I look beyond the stats.

 

[Chokli]

I look beyond the stats.

Been played in England since 2001 and averaging 13... Just got his highest score of 47 in 2019.

And suddenly Malik will turn around our fortunes.

Fans like you are the problem

 

[OmaIR1]

Been played in England since 2001 and averaging 13... Just got his highest score of 47 in 2019.

And suddenly Malik will turn around our fortunes.

Fans like you are the problem

Problem to what? I'm not a selector, nor did Malik make the playing 11.

Imam Ul Haq whose selection is nepotism based is not even as valuable as Malik. Malik is one of the best fielders in the team, can bowl too and his experience is invaluable.

If you just go based on stats there was no reason for Amir to be in the team either. Clearly, he defied all odds.

 

[Chokli]

Problem to what? I'm not a selector, nor did Malik make the playing 11.

Imam Ul Haq whose selection is nepotism based is not even as valuable as Malik. Malik is one of the best fielders in the team, can bowl too and his experience is invaluable.

If you just go based on stats there was no reason for Amir to be in the team either. Clearly, he defied all odds.

That's because we know what Amir is capable of and has won us big matches.

What has Malik ever won us?

 

[The_Odd_One]

Pakistani fans just do not learn. Players like Imam, Hafeez, and Malik are necessary evils in a weak team. They are far reliable than flashy players like Fakhar, Asif, Shadab, etc.

 

[miandadrules]

Pakistani fans just do not learn. Players like Imam, Hafeez, and Malik are necessary evils in a weak team. They are far reliable than flashy players like Fakhar, Asif, Shadab, etc.

You’d pick Malik over Farhar?

 

[OmaIR1]

That's because we know what Amir is capable of and has won us big matches.

What has Malik ever won us?

Malik is an exceptional player all around. I think he makes the cut based on his abilities as an all rounder and fielding.

Hafeez is another guy who doesn't exactly average 50 in England but his experience is worth his inclusion.

It's not all about who has won us matches. What has Imam won us?

 

[The_Odd_One]

You’d pick Malik over Farhar?

I assume you mean Fakhar. I will not have both of them going forward.

For this tournament, its an apple to orange comparison. Fakhar is an opener and Malik is a middle order batsman. Malik has a limited ceiling but you know what you will get from him. Fakhar has a higher ceiling but he fires like once in 4 times. At this point, he's pretty much a rich man's Afridi.

 

[Rifaqat]

Malik has to play in the remaining games

I dare someone to question his place in the side now

 

[Green Patriot]

Twenty overs of spin at Trent Bridge?

How does that work?

We didnt even have 20 overs of play let alone spin.
Who would have thought.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Malik has to play in the remaining games

I dare someone to question his place in the side now

What purpose does he serve in the side??

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

We started well. First 3 wickets to go down totally our fault. Just not our day. No fight in the lower middle order which is more concerning.

Fakhar and Babar looked good. We will have our day in the sun.

 

[miandadrules]

I assume you mean Fakhar. I will not have both of them going forward.

For this tournament, its an apple to orange comparison. Fakhar is an opener and Malik is a middle order batsman. Malik has a limited ceiling but you know what you will get from him. Fakhar has a higher ceiling but he fires like once in 4 times. At this point, he's pretty much a rich man's Afridi.

You make the comparison then call it apples and oranges.

The drivel you spout in defence of Malik is embarrassing.

Fakhar, despite being the only one in the entire squad who can play a modern ODI innings, is less reliable than Malik and a rich mans Afridi.

On a positive Malik is poor but at least you know what you’ll get. Knowing you going to get rubbish isn’t a positive.

 

[Captain caveman]

Just wondering why are we playing at trent bridge again. I hate this ground. England broke the world record team score(444) against us here and yesterdays debacle. This is a conspiracy to ko of the world cup!

 

[Captain caveman]

Wow! What bench strength we have!
I would play asif and hasnain instead of shadab and hasan ali, in the england game.

 

[Mehndi155]

Malik has to play in the remaining games

I dare someone to question his place in the side now

Ok bet malik wont play a single match winning knock in this worldcup and will be liability

 

[Chokli]

Malik is an exceptional player all around. I think he makes the cut based on his abilities as an all rounder and fielding.

Hafeez is another guy who doesn't exactly average 50 in England but his experience is worth his inclusion.

It's not all about who has won us matches. What has Imam won us?

So why has he been poor in England since 2001? Why hasn't he won us anything?

Hafeez I can see his value to the side as he has played some good innings in England.

What has Malik done in England? If this World Cup was in the SC then I would agree with you, Malik was dearly missed in the 2011 World Cup but 2019 with or without Malik is not going to make any difference.

Imam has already scored more runs in one series in England than Malik has in 18 years.

 

[OmaIR1]

So why has he been poor in England since 2001? Why hasn't he won us anything?

Hafeez I can see his value to the side as he has played some good innings in England.

What has Malik done in England? If this World Cup was in the SC then I would agree with you, Malik was dearly missed in the 2011 World Cup but 2019 with or without Malik is not going to make any difference.

Imam has already scored more runs in one series in England than Malik has in 18 years.

As I said, Malik is an exceptional player in that he posses true all-round ability. For me he gets the nod ahead of Haris.

No one is saying he is a world beater in England but you have to select the best from the worst. Malik was good in the field and proved his worth in the bowling department today. I will take that!