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Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Clive Lloyd (c)
Tony Greig
Alan Knott (wkt)
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Jeff Thomson
Derek Underwood

Discuss!
 
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Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Clive Lloyd (c)
Tony Greig
Alan Knott (wkt)
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Jeff Thomson
Derek Underwood

Discuss!

Batting looks right. Zaheer would be in the mix for a Subcontinental series.

I would drop Thommo and bring in Snow who took more wickets in the 1970s.

Greig could bowl FM swing or off-breaks depending on the wicket.

Bedi would be in the mix too.
 
Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Clive Lloyd (c)
Tony Greig
Alan Knott (wkt)
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Jeff Thomson
Derek Underwood

Discuss!

You've left out the South Africans, and they were the best of the lot!

1. Barry Richards (GOAT opener)
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Graeme Pollock (GOAT left-handed batsman)
4. Viv Richards
5. Clive Lloyd (c)
6. Mike Procter
7. Alan Knott (wk)
8. Dennis Lillee
9. Andy Roberts
10. Bishan Bedi
11. Vintcent Van Der Bijl

Bowling attack:

Dennis Lillee bowling low 150's
Andy Roberts bowling 150-159K
Mike Procter bowling fast inswing
Vince Van Der Bijl bowling McGrath style from 6'8
Bedi bowling slow left-arm
 
You've left out the South Africans, and they were the best of the lot!

1. Barry Richards (GOAT opener)
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Graeme Pollock (GOAT left-handed batsman)
4. Viv Richards
5. Clive Lloyd (c)
6. Mike Procter
7. Alan Knott (wk)
8. Dennis Lillee
9. Andy Roberts
10. Bishan Bedi
11. Vintcent Van Der Bijl

Bowling attack:

Dennis Lillee bowling low 150's
Andy Roberts bowling 150-159K
Mike Procter bowling fast inswing
Vince Van Der Bijl bowling McGrath style from 6'8
Bedi bowling slow left-arm
Leaving out Chappell who was the best bat of the decade is heinous
 
Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards (C) (just don't want to make chappell the captain.)
Greg Chappell
Doug Walters
Javed Miandad
Alan Knott (wkt)
Richard Hadlee
Dennis Lillee
Michael Holding/Bob Willis
Derek Underwood

Lance Gibbs as a second spinner ahead of one of the pacers for subcontinent tours.
 
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Including SAFs

1. BA Richards
2. Gavaskar
3. Viv
4. Greg
5. *Lloyd
6. AW Greig
7. +Knott
8. Procter
9. DK Lillee
10. ** Bedi
11. Roberts
——————
12. Chandrasekhar

G Pollock was 28 by the start of the decade, therefore I haven’t considered him, otherwise he plays for Greig, pushing Lloyd to No. 6.

Taking out the SAF, I’ll take Boycott & Imran.
 
Including SAFs

1. BA Richards
2. Gavaskar
3. Viv
4. Greg
5. *Lloyd
6. AW Greig
7. +Knott
8. Procter
9. DK Lillee
10. ** Bedi
11. Roberts
——————
12. Chandrasekhar

G Pollock was 28 by the start of the decade, therefore I haven’t considered him, otherwise he plays for Greig, pushing Lloyd to No. 6.

Taking out the SAF, I’ll take Boycott & Imran.

Bot Pollock was still scoring centuries in the early 1980's against the touring West Indians - whose attack was Croft - Clarke - Stephenson - Moseley.
 
If you exclude the South Africans as they didn't played any test, I pretty much agree with the team except Thommo.

Drop Thommo and play Willis in the XI. In subcontinent, Bedi can be considered.
 
Chandra can be preferred over Bedi as he averages much better in that decade.
 
Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Clive Lloyd (c)
Tony Greig
Alan Knott (wkt)
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Jeff Thomson
Derek Underwood

Discuss!

A very well selected team.However why no Barry Richards, Zaheer Abbas or Bishen Bedi?Bedi or maybe even Ian Chappellwas more penetrative than Underwood on non-favourable tracks ,was more artistic and correct as well as statistically better.On flat strips Zaheer Abas was the best of all batsmen and must be given credit for scoring 2 double-centuries in England,averaging over 57 in Australia in 1976-77 and taking batting to Bradmanesque proportion against India in 1978.Lloyd was better against genuine pace or in a crisis but did not have Zaheer's flair.Infact in a crisis Ian Chappell was better than brother Greg as well as against the bouncing ball.Red Gary Sober's view on Ian Chappell who Gary thought was better than even brother Greg.Barry was far more punishing than nayopener and most technically correct.Would win more games than Gavaskar or Boycott.In WSC supertset topped averages including 2 match-winning centuries,including a double.Barry should accompany Gavaskar and replace Boycott,who was arguably great but also very slow and selfish.

Otherwise great selections.
 
For me:

Gavaskar
B.Richards
V.Richards
G.Chappell
G.Pollock
Greig
Knott
Proctor
Lillee
Holding
Underwood
 
A very well selected team.However why no Barry Richards, Zaheer Abbas or Bishen Bedi?Bedi or maybe even Ian Chappellwas more penetrative than Underwood on non-favourable tracks ,was more artistic and correct as well as statistically better.On flat strips Zaheer Abas was the best of all batsmen and must be given credit for scoring 2 double-centuries in England,averaging over 57 in Australia in 1976-77 and taking batting to Bradmanesque proportion against India in 1978.Lloyd was better against genuine pace or in a crisis but did not have Zaheer's flair.Infact in a crisis Ian Chappell was better than brother Greg as well as against the bouncing ball.Red Gary Sober's view on Ian Chappell who Gary thought was better than even brother Greg.Barry was far more punishing than nayopener and most technically correct.Would win more games than Gavaskar or Boycott.In WSC supertset topped averages including 2 match-winning centuries,including a double.Barry should accompany Gavaskar and replace Boycott,who was arguably great but also very slow and selfish.

Otherwise great selections.

What will be your XI?
 
You've left out the South Africans, and they were the best of the lot!

1. Barry Richards (GOAT opener)
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Graeme Pollock (GOAT left-handed batsman)
4. Viv Richards
5. Clive Lloyd (c)
6. Mike Procter
7. Alan Knott (wk)
8. Dennis Lillee
9. Andy Roberts
10. Bishan Bedi
11. <B>Vintcent Van Der Bijl</B>

Bowling attack:

Dennis Lillee bowling low 150's
Andy Roberts bowling 150-159K
Mike Procter bowling fast inswing
Vince Van Der Bijl bowling McGrath style from 6'8
Bedi bowling slow left-arm

How did he fared in WSC?
 
Including SAFs

1. BA Richards
2. Gavaskar
3. Viv
4. Greg
5. *Lloyd
6. AW Greig
7. +Knott
8. Procter
9. DK Lillee
10. ** Bedi
11. Roberts
——————
12. Chandrasekhar

G Pollock was 28 by the start of the decade, therefore I haven’t considered him, otherwise he plays for Greig, pushing Lloyd to No. 6.

Taking out the SAF, I’ll take Boycott & Imran.

Does Van Der Bijl merit a selection?
 
Below I have ranked my all time XI for players that were the best in 1970s decade. Here goes my list.

Sunil Gavaskar
Geoffrey Boycott
Viv Richards
Greg Chappell
Clive Lloyd (c)
Tony Greig
Alan Knott (wkt)
Dennis Lillee
Andy Roberts
Jeff Thomson
Derek Underwood

Discuss!

Also why not Micheal Holding instead of Thomson who was consistently quicker through the arir ,had a better action and was overall better.I also prefer Mike Procter to Tony Greig
 
What will be your XI?

Barry Richards
Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Ian Chappell (C)
Greg Chappell
Mike Procter
Alan Knott (W)
Andy Roberts
Dennis Lillee
Michael Holding
Bishen Bedi

On the sub-continent or even England Zaheer Abbas would replace either of the Chappell brothers .Clive Lloyd ,Majid Khan and Tony Greig just miss out or maybe even Imran Khan or Jeff Thomson.

Chose more pace bowlers as they are better match-winners than batsmen.Took Ian Chappell as he wa sthe best captain of all tactically and as a motivator and best batsmen in a a crisis.Holding was consistently the fastest of all wit the best cation with Lillee and Roberts the most verstaile or complete.Viv and Barry were the ultimate match-winners,Gavaskar the ultimate to bat for your life,Greg Chappell the ultimate technician and champion statistically.Bedi wast he most complete spinner,just edging Prasanna.Procter was the best all-rounder after retirement of Sobers who could champion the cause with both bat and ball.Given great consideration to WSC stats for Barry ,Procter and Chappel brothers.Cllive Lloyd misses out by a whisker to Ian considering leadership qualities .Ian was a master batting one down and when the chips were down.
 
For me:

Gavaskar
B.Richards
V.Richards
G.Chappell
G.Pollock
Greig
Knott
Proctor
Lillee
Holding
Underwood

Why not Bishen Bedi who was technically and artisticallly better than Underwood?Why not Andy Roberts who was more lethal and versatile than even Holding and considered by Gavaskar and Lillee as the most complete pace bowler of their era?Was not Ian Chappel the ultimate champion in a crisis and best leader of men on a cricket field?Otherwise great choices.
 
Barry Richards
Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Ian Chappell (C)
Greg Chappell
Mike Procter
Alan Knott (W)
Andy Roberts
Dennis Lillee
Michael Holding
Bishen Bedi

On the sub-continent or even England Zaheer Abbas would replace either of the Chappell brothers .Clive Lloyd ,Majid Khan and Tony Greig just miss out or maybe even Imran Khan or Jeff Thomson.

Chose more pace bowlers as they are better match-winners than batsmen.Took Ian Chappell as he wa sthe best captain of all tactically and as a motivator and best batsmen in a a crisis.Holding was consistently the fastest of all wit the best cation with Lillee and Roberts the most verstaile or complete.Viv and Barry were the ultimate match-winners,Gavaskar the ultimate to bat for your life,Greg Chappell the ultimate technician and champion statistically.Bedi wast he most complete spinner,just edging Prasanna.Procter was the best all-rounder after retirement of Sobers who could champion the cause with both bat and ball.Given great consideration to WSC stats for Barry ,Procter and Chappel brothers.Cllive Lloyd misses out by a whisker to Ian considering leadership qualities .Ian was a master batting one down and when the chips were down.
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For those who watched cricket in 1970s, how do you describe Bishen Singh Bedi.

My father used to always describe three Indian cricketers in a way that felt they were so larger than life characters and that were Gavaskar, Bedi and Kapil.

In modern day cricket Ashwin, Jadeja seem to have better figures.

My father used to tell me Bishen Singh Bedi was very brave as a spinner. He would bowl extremely slow flighted deliveries to entice batsmen to hit him and then he would applaud if they did.
 
I will replace Clive Lloyd with Ian Chappel. Similar levels as batsman but Chappel was superior captain
 
How good was Greame Pollock?

I watched black and white footages of his batting and i can say that the way he flicked sixes towards keg side, i have never seen any batsman time the ball that we'll.

Keeping also in mind the bats in thise days weren't as great for hitting as today's bats.

Against Ian Chappels team, G Pollock was effortlessly smoking their spinners for 6s towards leg side. What unbelievable hitting. I found him more pleasing to watch than Barry Richards
 
For those who watched cricket in 1970s, how do you describe Bishen Singh Bedi.

My father used to always describe three Indian cricketers in a way that felt they were so larger than life characters and that were Gavaskar, Bedi and Kapil.

In modern day cricket Ashwin, Jadeja seem to have better figures.

My father used to tell me Bishen Singh Bedi was very brave as a spinner. He would bowl extremely slow flighted deliveries to entice batsmen to hit him and then he would applaud if they did.

Sir Viv Richards struggled against Chandra, Bedi and Qadir.
 
Barry Richards
Gavaskar
Viv Richards
Ian Chappell (C)
Greg Chappell
Mike Procter
Alan Knott (W)
Andy Roberts
Dennis Lillee
Michael Holding
Bishen Bedi

On the sub-continent or even England Zaheer Abbas would replace either of the Chappell brothers .Clive Lloyd ,Majid Khan and Tony Greig just miss out or maybe even Imran Khan or Jeff Thomson.

Chose more pace bowlers as they are better match-winners than batsmen.Took Ian Chappell as he wa sthe best captain of all tactically and as a motivator and best batsmen in a a crisis.Holding was consistently the fastest of all wit the best cation with Lillee and Roberts the most verstaile or complete.Viv and Barry were the ultimate match-winners,Gavaskar the ultimate to bat for your life,Greg Chappell the ultimate technician and champion statistically.Bedi wast he most complete spinner,just edging Prasanna.Procter was the best all-rounder after retirement of Sobers who could champion the cause with both bat and ball.Given great consideration to WSC stats for Barry ,Procter and Chappel brothers.Cllive Lloyd misses out by a whisker to Ian considering leadership qualities .Ian was a master batting one down and when the chips were down.
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Why not Bishen Bedi who was technically and artisticallly better than Underwood?Why not Andy Roberts who was more lethal and versatile than even Holding and considered by Gavaskar and Lillee as the most complete pace bowler of their era?Was not Ian Chappel the ultimate champion in a crisis and best leader of men on a cricket field?Otherwise great choices.

Ian Chappell not the tier of my top 5, and Greig offers variety in my bowling attack while also being a top captaincy option. Lillee does everything Roberts does but better, while Holding offers the shock value of extreme pace. For Bedi vs Underwood, I rank Underwood better due to having a better average and not being based in the subcontinent, which is an advantage for any spinner, particularly left arm orthodox bowlers. However they are close and I could understand picking Bedi
 
Bot Pollock was still scoring centuries in the early 1980's against the touring West Indians - whose attack was Croft - Clarke - Stephenson - Moseley.

Then it’s bad luck for Greig or Lloyd. Tony offered a good all-round capability and probably would be my deputy in the squad but Lloyd should be there in playing XI. No way you can drop Greg Chappell from 1970s any team.
 
Does Van Der Bijl merit a selection?

His FC (& List A) stats are incredible, based on which you can consider him but he never played Test cricket and he was an amateur (teacher), who played cricket during breaks (around 150 FC games in like 15 years). Guy was picked for 1971-72 AUS tour, based on the performance of that season (SAF Cricketer of the year, at 21 in that incredible generation) which never happened. He played one season in County (Middlesex), at mature age (31-2) and swept almost every domestic titles bowling outstandingly with new ball.

At 6’8”, he was deceptively quick, extremely accurate and could seem it both ways; could bat a it as well - I believe it’s the isolation (of SAF) that kept him amateur as he found security from his teaching job, otherwise he would have been one of the best professionals around. That one County season suggests he could have been an ATG material, but you can’t pick a player for the Test team of decade based on FC records only.

That South African generation is the biggest loss of cricket - it could have been 3 to 5 ATGs coming from that generation, this excluding G Pollock, who should be considered ATG, from his first 6 years. There was another fantastic fast bowler- Rupert Hanley, who was 19 when the ban started.
 
You've left out the South Africans, and they were the best of the lot!

1. Barry Richards (GOAT opener)
2. Sunil Gavaskar
3. Graeme Pollock (GOAT left-handed batsman)
4. Viv Richards
5. Clive Lloyd (c)
6. Mike Procter
7. Alan Knott (wk)
8. Dennis Lillee
9. Andy Roberts
10. Bishan Bedi
11. Vintcent Van Der Bijl

Bowling attack:

Dennis Lillee bowling low 150's
Andy Roberts bowling 150-159K
Mike Procter bowling fast inswing
Vince Van Der Bijl bowling McGrath style from 6'8
Bedi bowling slow left-arm

Good team do comment on my list kindly.Why no Chappel brothers with Ian as skipper?Very good choice of Bedi which I complement.
 
Including SAFs

1. BA Richards
2. Gavaskar
3. Viv
4. Greg
5. *Lloyd
6. AW Greig
7. +Knott
8. Procter
9. DK Lillee
10. ** Bedi
11. Roberts
——————
12. Chandrasekhar

G Pollock was 28 by the start of the decade, therefore I haven’t considered him, otherwise he plays for Greig, pushing Lloyd to No. 6.

Taking out the SAF, I’ll take Boycott & Imran.

Why no Chappel brothers with their great performances?Not Ian as captain or Greg T no 5? Great choice of Bedi.an Procter.I would add Holding as quickies are match winners instead of Tony Greig,Otherwise very good choice s.
 
How good was Greame Pollock?

I watched black and white footages of his batting and i can say that the way he flicked sixes towards keg side, i have never seen any batsman time the ball that we'll.

Keeping also in mind the bats in thise days weren't as great for hitting as today's bats.

Against Ian Chappels team, G Pollock was effortlessly smoking their spinners for 6s towards leg side. What unbelievable hitting. I found him more pleasing to watch than Barry Richards

G Pollock was the best timer of the ball of his generation that had Sir Gary Sobers & Rohan Kanhai as well - add to that the punch of a 6’-3”+, 15 stone+ frame, he was frightening, much more classier version of Clive Lloyd.

Gavaskar wrote about him (both played for World XI in Australia 1971) that GPollock used to bluff the fielders - his innocent, checked cover drives were timed so sweetly (& powerfully just from flicks of top wrist) that often cover fielders misjudged the speed of the ball - instead of diving to stop the ball, they would try to chase it and it’ll race to boundary in no time. In one such occasion, Kieth Stackpole (?) was scolded by Captain Ian as he was relaxing in covers and casually allowed a defensive push from GP get past him (he thought, he’ll get one of the runners off-guard by confusion) - it made him chase till the MCG boundary and batsmen scored an all ran four!!! I saw him when he was 60+, in a masters cricket - incredible timer of the ball on either feet either side, in haven’t seen anyone punching so sweetly off the back foot with so less movement and so much power, not even Lara.

Only, only blemish that can be attributed to this outstanding batsman that, he played only against Australia & ENG (NZ??) and on good, firm wickets - we don’t know how good he was against spin on turners, otherwise the guy was good enough to be rated the second best ever after Sir Don.
 
G Pollock was the best timer of the ball of his generation that had Sir Gary Sobers & Rohan Kanhai as well - add to that the punch of a 6’-3”+, 15 stone+ frame, he was frightening, much more classier version of Clive Lloyd.

Gavaskar wrote about him (both played for World XI in Australia 1971) that GPollock used to bluff the fielders - his innocent, checked cover drives were timed so sweetly (& powerfully just from flicks of top wrist) that often cover fielders misjudged the speed of the ball - instead of diving to stop the ball, they would try to chase it and it’ll race to boundary in no time. In one such occasion, Kieth Stackpole (?) was scolded by Captain Ian as he was relaxing in covers and casually allowed a defensive push from GP get past him (he thought, he’ll get one of the runners off-guard by confusion) - it made him chase till the MCG boundary and batsmen scored an all ran four!!! I saw him when he was 60+, in a masters cricket - incredible timer of the ball on either feet either side, in haven’t seen anyone punching so sweetly off the back foot with so less movement and so much power, not even Lara.

Only, only blemish that can be attributed to this outstanding batsman that, he played only against Australia & ENG (NZ??) and on good, firm wickets - we don’t know how good he was against spin on turners, otherwise the guy was good enough to be rated the second best ever after Sir Don.

Such amazing stories. He truly was a batting giant. Also going by his interviews always seemed like a very a likeable guy.

Biggest travesty if a cricket that a freakishly gifted team of young South Africans had to turn mercenaries in 1970s due to the ban.

Only the cricket world was poorer for it.

Thank God there was very high quality County cricket and world series that somewhat secured their legacies despite no international cricket
 
Why no Chappel brothers with their great performances?Not Ian as captain or Greg T no 5? Great choice of Bedi.an Procter.I would add Holding as quickies are match winners instead of Tony Greig,Otherwise very good choice s.

Greg is there at his spot - No. 4!!!! - I am a fan of him man, the most complete batsman of 1970s. Arguably, he was better Test batsman of 1970s than Viv. His career stats doesn’t include his best 1500 runs at 5 hundreds, scored at 57, against the combination of worlds best two attacks. One of the best ever double hundreds in cricket was played by Greg : 246 (?) at WSC, after fielding for 10 hours and he was suffering from fever, that whole day, didn’t eat anything. Apart from losing his best 2 years to WSC (it started when he was 29), he had issues with ACB and his allergy that cost him around 35-38 Tests during his prime, otherwise guy could have been the first batsman to score 10K Test runs at close to 60 with like 35+ hundreds.

Ian Chappell, shouldn’t be considered for 1970s team - he is one of those players whose career prime was splited into two decades - it started around 1967, ended by 1975 (he actually retired at 32 after 1975 Ashes summer; had issues with Bradman who was looking to sack him, IC didn’t give him the chance - handed the resignation to Bradman with a beer at other hand). I’ll take Ian for the team of 1960s, but not 1970s - he was among world’s top 4 batsmen between 1967 to 1971, and competition of spots for 1960s was much less (Kanhai, GPollock, IC & Sobers are certain for 3 to 6; Simpson also almost certain for one opening slot, other one position can be debated).

Before Wasim, ** Bedi was probably the greatest ever left arm bowler (bowler, not spinner), though English cricket media might not agree - they had Verity & Underwood, while Aussies had Davidson. He’ll make my AT Test squad of 16, if a dedicated SLAO spinner is picked. He was very much original- classical action, conventional skills and extremely intelligent. Underwood has better stats, but he was a bit condition dependent spinner, brilliant on wet wickets & his Captains often didn’t use him on unfavourable conditions, preserving his stats. BSB played as the lead bowler of his team and had to bowl lots of overs in first innings as well.

Holding’s peak was between 1979 to 1983-4 - apart from that one Oval Test in 1976, next great thing from him I can recall is kicking wickets in NZ in 1979. He also lost his fastest two years to WSC - I won’t take him for 1970s squads ahead of Imran or Hadlee. By 1977, Imran was accomplished fast bowler who had great tours of the best two teams that time - AUS & WIN; then in India as well. He missed couple of years for WSC and didn’t tour England in 1978, hence his 1970s career isn’t that glorified, but that one Test at SCG should be enough!!!!! That was probably the greatest upset in Test cricket before Bobby Mughabe’s boys beat Imran’s successors.
 
Greg is there at his spot - No. 4!!!! - I am a fan of him man, the most complete batsman of 1970s. Arguably, he was better Test batsman of 1970s than Viv. His career stats doesn’t include his best 1500 runs at 5 hundreds, scored at 57, against the combination of worlds best two attacks. One of the best ever double hundreds in cricket was played by Greg : 246 (?) at WSC, after fielding for 10 hours and he was suffering from fever, that whole day, didn’t eat anything. Apart from losing his best 2 years to WSC (it started when he was 29), he had issues with ACB and his allergy that cost him around 35-38 Tests during his prime, otherwise guy could have been the first batsman to score 10K Test runs at close to 60 with like 35+ hundreds.

Ian Chappell, shouldn’t be considered for 1970s team - he is one of those players whose career prime was splited into two decades - it started around 1967, ended by 1975 (he actually retired at 32 after 1975 Ashes summer; had issues with Bradman who was looking to sack him, IC didn’t give him the chance - handed the resignation to Bradman with a beer at other hand). I’ll take Ian for the team of 1960s, but not 1970s - he was among world’s top 4 batsmen between 1967 to 1971, and competition of spots for 1960s was much less (Kanhai, GPollock, IC & Sobers are certain for 3 to 6; Simpson also almost certain for one opening slot, other one position can be debated).

Before Wasim, ** Bedi was probably the greatest ever left arm bowler (bowler, not spinner), though English cricket media might not agree - they had Verity & Underwood, while Aussies had Davidson. He’ll make my AT Test squad of 16, if a dedicated SLAO spinner is picked. He was very much original- classical action, conventional skills and extremely intelligent. Underwood has better stats, but he was a bit condition dependent spinner, brilliant on wet wickets & his Captains often didn’t use him on unfavourable conditions, preserving his stats. BSB played as the lead bowler of his team and had to bowl lots of overs in first innings as well.

Holding’s peak was between 1979 to 1983-4 - apart from that one Oval Test in 1976, next great thing from him I can recall is kicking wickets in NZ in 1979. He also lost his fastest two years to WSC - I won’t take him for 1970s squads ahead of Imran or Hadlee. By 1977, Imran was accomplished fast bowler who had great tours of the best two teams that time - AUS & WIN; then in India as well. He missed couple of years for WSC and didn’t tour England in 1978, hence his 1970s career isn’t that glorified, but that one Test at SCG should be enough!!!!! That was probably the greatest upset in Test cricket before Bobby Mughabe’s boys beat Imran’s successors.

Great analysis complement.In Asian conditions would t you prefer Zaheer Abbas to Greg Chappell?Zaheer was better against spin bowling.
 
Great analysis complement.In Asian conditions would t you prefer Zaheer Abbas to Greg Chappell?Zaheer was better against spin bowling.

Still Greg.

Zaheer was a monster in Asia, but only in PAK, where in 1970s & 80s,!some of the worst wickets were prepared - you could bat for whole days. Zaheer’s record in India is poor (pathetic, I would say), while Greg never played there. He once played in PAK and did get a 235*. Zaheer was a better spin player for sure, but Greg wasn’t poor either - in any other comparison, it was a indeed a contest but Greg was miles ahead on back foot game which is key for success in longer game. Zaheer’s predominant front-foot game was well suited for County cricket and he was only second to Viv in ODI, but in longer game, Greg was well ahead.
 
Still Greg.

Zaheer was a monster in Asia, but only in PAK, where in 1970s & 80s,!some of the worst wickets were prepared - you could bat for whole days. Zaheer’s record in India is poor (pathetic, I would say), while Greg never played there. He once played in PAK and did get a 235*. Zaheer was a better spin player for sure, but Greg wasn’t poor either - in any other comparison, it was a indeed a contest but Greg was miles ahead on back foot game which is key for success in longer game. Zaheer’s predominant front-foot game was well suited for County cricket and he was only second to Viv in ODI, but in longer game, Greg was well ahead.

Very well answered but I feel Greg was not at his best when the ball swung in the air like brother Ian Chappell.Was not Ian more suitable as a captain and crisis batsmen than Lloyd?Ian was also at his best on turning tracks in India as well as a great player of pace.Whatbout Zaheer in place of Lloyd in te sub-continent with Ian Chappell the skipper?
 
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