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20 most destructive Asian batters of all time?

sweep_shot said:
Within the last 10 years, Pakistan had Ahmed Shehzad, Sharjeel, Umar Akmal, and Shahid Afridi. All 4 were better strikers than Rizwan and Babar (maybe not Fakhar).
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Shehzad was slow, Sharjeel did not play enough and Umar and Afridi were not consistent enough.
 
Most Sixes in ODIs:

351 - Shahid Afridi (369 Innings)
331 - Rohit Sharma (257 Innings)
331 - Chris Gayle (294 Innings)
270 - Sanath Jayasuriya (433 Innings)
229 - MS Dhoni (297 Innings)
 
FearlessRoar said:
Most Sixes in ODIs:

351 - Shahid Afridi (369 Innings)
331 - Rohit Sharma (257 Innings)
331 - Chris Gayle (294 Innings)
270 - Sanath Jayasuriya (433 Innings)
229 - MS Dhoni (297 Innings)
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Afridi's record will remain most valuable because he hit those sixes when cricket was not that easy as it is now!
 
Afridi is the most destructive if we are counting short cameos. Nobody ever instilled more fear in oppositions than Afridi in his peak years as a batter. In that category these are my top 5 :-

1. Afridi
2. Jayasuriya
3. Yusuf Pathan
4. Peak Dhoni
5. Pandya

If you’re counting ‘proper’ batters.

1. Jayasuriya
2. Late 90s peak Tendulkar
3. Hitman
4. Sehwag
5. The category ends here for me


These are for ODI cricket

Test cricket is simple. There is Sehwag who is the single most destructive test batter ever and there’s no one near him anywhere in the world let alone Asia.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Afridi is the most destructive if we are counting short cameos. Nobody ever instilled more fear in oppositions than Afridi in his peak years as a batter. In that category these are my top 5 :-

1. Afridi
2. Jayasuriya
3. Yusuf Pathan
4. Peak Dhoni
5. Pandya

If you’re counting ‘proper’ batters.

1. Jayasuriya
2. Late 90s peak Tendulkar
3. Hitman
4. Sehwag
5. The category ends here for me


These are for ODI cricket

Test cricket is simple. There is Sehwag who is the single most destructive test batter ever and there’s no one near him anywhere in the world let alone Asia.
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Bhaijaan what about Yuvraj and Razzaq? Don't you think they were destructive?
 
Jazx said:
Bhaijaan what about Yuvraj and Razzaq? Don't you think they were destructive?
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They were occasionally destructive when they needed to be.

Afridi, Jayasuriya, Yusuf Pathan, Sehwag, Peak Dhoni and Pandya entered the field to destroy bowling attacks. That’s where I’m coming from.
 
This list starts off well but then gets neither here nor there. Maybe because the authors wants to get so emotional his favourites in there.

Destructive should have very little to do with average.

Any excuse to get the little mister in there.

You want destructive, I’d rather have the likes of Razzi, Yuvraj, kaluwitharana…
 
TheSultan said:
This list starts off well but then gets neither here nor there. Maybe because the authors wants to get so emotional his favourites in there.

Destructive should have very little to do with average.

Any excuse to get the little mister in there.

You want destructive, I’d rather have the likes of Razzi, Yuvraj, kaluwitharana…
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Razzaq was a slogger.
Tendulkar at his peak was the definition of destructive.
 
@Rana @emranabbas @CerebralPatriot Wanted to ping you here as the talk is about destructive batters. And since you're the biggest critic of Rizwan.

You remember the Australian/Zimbabwe tri series

In that series pakistan played against australia in a tri series( Mind you this was Australia's A team bowling attack led by Stark and Zampa. So all those who claim Pakistan 2018 was bullying C sides, then Major L)

Anyway it was the final, Australia scored 186 and Pakistan were at 0-2 aka 2 wickets down before the 1st over.

Fakhar Zaman that day in t20 against the likes of zampa, Stark etc struck a 91 of 46 deliveries causing Pakistan to lift the trophy and achieve no 1 rank for the first time.

In 2017 fakhar won ct 2017 for pakistan and a year later he would be the man who would ultimately help Pakistan conquer Australia in a final and take Pakistan to the no 1 t20 rank.

^^ The irony of this is that, this was the 2nd last time fakhar zaman opened as Pakistan would play the world cup in 2019 and after this series, rizwan who played at 4 under Misbah would fail all 3 games with scores of 15 of 14, 5 of 6 and 11 of 12. Fakhar also failed this series but did scored a 30 of 16 in one game at opening still outperforming rizzu.

^^ After this series Rizwan started opening and Fakhar was shoved down the order.

Wanted to put this put their as Fakhar's 91 of 46 against An A string aussie attack in a tri series final is never brought up, even though it was that very day that Pakistan achieved no 1 rank.

^^ It shows why fakhar is the most clutch player of Pakistan.

1) Won ct for his team
2) Achieved no 1 rank in t20 for his team
3) Saved his team from the most embrassing NZ Defeat in a world cup

And yet people say Rizwan > Fakhar was the right call.
 
Trying to turn this thread into another rizwan vs Fakhar thread...Not appreciated.

name 20 guys as per the topic of the thread, brother. No need for rizwan comparisons here because he is not one of them.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Trying to turn this thread into another rizwan vs Fakhar thread...Not appreciated.

name 20 guys as per the topic of the thread, brother. No need for rizwan comparisons here because he is not one of them.
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Their are some comments and people who think rizwan will end on this list lol.

But fair ill talk about others.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Razzaq was a slogger.
Tendulkar at his peak was the definition of destructive.
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Tendulkar and destruction are two different things

he was elegant and consistent but not destructive batter for sure

at the other end Razzaq was a nightmare for most of the bowlers in the death overs u must have seen his inning which he played against SA, he single handedly turned the match in Pakistan's favour.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Tendulkar and destruction are two different things

he was elegant and consistent but not destructive batter for sure

at the other end Razzaq was a nightmare for most of the bowlers in the death overs u must have seen his inning which he played against SA, he single handedly turned the match in Pakistan's favour.
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Razzaq has an SR of 81.25 in ODI's, Tendulkar has an SR of 86.23
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Tendulkar and destruction are two different things

he was elegant and consistent but not destructive batter for sure

at the other end Razzaq was a nightmare for most of the bowlers in the death overs u must have seen his inning which he played against SA, he single handedly turned the match in Pakistan's favour.
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That was Razzaq's best innings and you're comparing one outlier innings to sachin's usual batting displays.

If you're comparing best innings then Sachin dominating display of 200 had a higher SR then razzaq overall

Sachin isn't a destructive batsmen by any means, but neither is razzaq. Razzaq unlike afridi would take the game deep, not go bang bang like jaysuria, Afridi and others who use to bat in that era.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Tendulkar and destruction are two different things

he was elegant and consistent but not destructive batter for sure

at the other end Razzaq was a nightmare for most of the bowlers in the death overs u must have seen his inning which he played against SA, he single handedly turned the match in Pakistan's favour.
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mominsaigol said:
That was Razzaq's best innings and you're comparing one outlier innings to sachin's usual batting displays.

If you're comparing best innings then Sachin dominating display of 200 had a higher SR then razzaq overall

Sachin isn't a destructive batsmen by any means, but neither is razzaq. Razzaq unlike afridi would take the game deep, not go bang bang like jaysuria, Afridi and others who use to bat in that era.
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I am guessing you both watched majority of cricket from late 2000s

Peak Tendulkar from 1996-2000 before Tennis elbow surgery was quite destructive.
 
I still remember watching Sachin in 95-99 era...

Man oh man, what a thrill....

He was class apart from everyone and he knew it.
Sachin is humble in his demeanor off field, but he was a brat in that period when playing his stokes.

I still remember an inning against Newzealand, he took Vettori to the parks.

Utter destruction.... The reason cricket became what it did in India.
 
Gilchrist was pretty aggressive and destructive up top. Hayden, Jayasuriya. Saeed Anwar.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Gilchrist was pretty aggressive and destructive up top. Hayden, Jayasuriya. Saeed Anwar.
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Saeed Anwar is probably the most underrated opener of all time.

I rate him higher then Sanga, Dilshan, Sehwag But below Rohit, Sachin, Warner etc.

He batted in a difficult era and from 2001 after his daughters death he completly lost any and all interest in cricket, Even them as a complete shell and corpse in 2003 he still scored a 100 against India.

If he played in this era he'd have a solid 35 centuries and assuming Babar azam was frauding with C string series in pindi pitches, then he'd have broken sachin's record considering Imam ul Haq is averaging 63 in pindi lol.

Dude was a proper classy player and one of his key strengths was his wrist play against spin and his lofted strokes against Pace, Something every single one of our cricket players lack, even fakhar since Fakhar tends to slog sweep spin but lacks the ability to actually nudge it around and keep the sr ticking in other ways.

I'm usually shocked Anwar never gets mentioned in the same light as Inzi, Yousaf, Miandad when he's clearly far far superior to those 3.

Regardless saeed Anwar is easily in the class of gilchrist, above the paygrade of Hayden but below Jaysuria(when jaysuria was on song)
 
Dhoni, Afridi, U Akmal, Imran Nazir, Razzers, Yusuf Pathan, Yuvraj, Thisara Perera, Jaysuria, Pandya, etc come to mind
 
I miss Thisara Perera of old. People have forgotten about him and how destructive he was. One of my favourite left handies in the mid 2010s. Guy literally averaged 112+ SR in ODIs and 150+ in t20s and majority of the cricket he played was pre-2018 which was not the batting era that it is today

Just watch...

Only took a blinder of a catch by Boult to end this game changing innings. One of Boult's greatest moments
 
When you talk about destructive batsmen, I think of some of the following names:
Virender Sehwag
Viv Richards
Gilchrist
Afridi
Kapil Dev
Jayasuriya
(To some extent, Brendon McCullum and Rohit Sharma)

The above people did not know how to knuckle down and play a patient innings, a handful of exceptions aside, if any. These, you can call destructive. They played Tests, ODIs, and T20s (whichever ones did) the same way - destructively!

People talking about Saeed Anwar, Tendulkar, Dilshan, Hayden etc. are being mixing the “need to be destructive” vs “want to be destructive”. These people played fast when they needed to, and ground out runs at 50-something strike rate in Test cricket. You don’t call these batsmen destructive. You can’t be selectively destructive, either you are or you’re not- naturally.

There may be some others missing in my list, but you get the point.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
ok tell me honestly, who would you pick in a situation where you need 20 runs from 6 deliveries?
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Easy, Tendulkar. A proper aggressive batsman who is able to play aggressive cricket over a bits and pieces cricketer who came good once in a while with the bat.

Sir, I provided you proper facts and numbers, not figments of my imagination. You don't want to accept it, your choice.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
In ODIs alone for the last 30 years, I'd go

Sehwag
Jayasuriya
Tendulkar
Anwar
De Silva
Ijaz
Raina
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Yuvraj
Gambhir
Rohit
Gill
Iyer
Fakhar
Rizwan
Babar
Shakib
KL
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Gambhir, Rizwan, Babar, Shakib are definitely not destructive batters.
They are balanced batsman who don’t have an extra gear like the others mentioned in your post.
I would remove even KL because even though he has shown his hitting abilities he still bats like a coward
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
This is quite similar to you asking who would I pick between Kohli and Razzaq for making 20 in 6.

Whats your answer for this?
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We all know the answer. A proper aggressive batsman is someone who can score big innings at an excellent strike rate. Not someone who can score 20 runs in 6 balls and get out.

Viv Richards with a strike rate of 90 and an average of 47 in ODI's was a more aggressive batsman than Kapil Dev with a strike rate of 95 and an average of 28.

Razzaq has a strike rate of 81 with an average of 29 in ODI's. It's hilarious that people are calling him a more aggressive batsman than Tendulkar who has a strike rate of almost 87 with an average of 45.

But then again we are talking about Pakistani batting standards.​
 
Hitman said:
We all know the answer. A proper aggressive batsman is someone who can score big innings at an excellent strike rate. Not someone who can score 20 runs in 6 balls and get out.

Viv Richards with a strike rate of 90 and an average of 47 in ODI's was a more aggressive batsman than Kapil Dev with a strike rate of 95 and an average of 28.

Razzaq has a strike rate of 81 with an average of 29 in ODI's. It's hilarious that people are calling him a more aggressive batsman than Tendulkar who has a strike rate of almost 87 with an average of 45.

But then again we are talking about Pakistani batting standards.​
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Most Pakistani posters have not watched or followed Tendulkar's career fully so what they do is just follow what the Pak cricketers of his era says, so they have this general consensus that Tendulkar in ODIs was a classical technically correct consistent batsman who had a long career but there was nothing exciting about his batting. They believe he is just like a Joe Root in ODIs with a longer ODI career.

In reality, Sachin has several high strike rate knocks and that too in 90s and early 2000s. What people forget is that he was probably the best spin basher of his era, that too vs high quality spin.
 
Ab Fan said:
Most Pakistani posters have not watched or followed Tendulkar's career fully so what they do is just follow what the Pak cricketers of his era says, so they have this general consensus that Tendulkar in ODIs was a classical technically correct consistent batsman who had a long career but there was nothing exciting about his batting. They believe he is just like a Joe Root in ODIs with a longer ODI career.

In reality, Sachin has several high strike rate knocks and that too in 90s and early 2000s. What people forget is that he was probably the best spin basher of his era, that too vs high quality spin.
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Funny thing is that they try portraying Saeed Anwar with an average of 39 at a strike rate of 80 as some type of a batting genius. The same Saeed Anwar with an average of 23 at an SR of 73 in 30 innings against Australia, an average of 17 at an SR of 62 in 24 innings against South Africa. Those were the 2 best bowling attacks of his time.

But then again, Pakistani batting standards.​
 
Hitman said:
Funny thing is that they try portraying Saeed Anwar with an average of 39 at a strike rate of 80 as some type of a batting genius. The same Saeed Anwar with an average of 23 at an SR of 73 in 30 innings against Australia, an average of 17 at an SR of 62 in 24 innings against South Africa. Those were the 2 best bowling attacks of his time.

But then again, Pakistani batting standards.​
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Anwar was aggressive batter when you compare with Inzamam. Here are their average and strike rate in 1990s.

Anwar Avg 40, SR 83
Inzy Avg 39, SR 72

Compare this with SRT,

SRT Avg 43, SR 86

Inzy was simply not an aggressive batsman. He was basically a Ganguly/Azharuddin level batsman in terms of strike rate. He played pace better than those two but was weaker vs spin. A career strike rate of 74 simply puts him into a defensive batsman league and compared to that, Tendulkar and Anwar both were super aggressive batters. Tendulkar, however, had a much longer career and ended up as one of the best ever.

Anwar is still a better ODI batsman than Inzy but in terms of being more aggressive , he was well ahead of Inzy but behind Tendulkar.
 
Ab Fan said:
Anwar was aggressive batter when you compare with Inzamam. Here are their average and strike rate in 1990s.

Anwar Avg 40, SR 83
Inzy Avg 39, SR 72

Compare this with SRT,

SRT Avg 43, SR 86

Inzy was simply not an aggressive batsman. He was basically a Ganguly/Azharuddin level batsman in terms of strike rate. He played pace better than those two but was weaker vs spin. A career strike rate of 74 simply puts him into a defensive batsman league and compared to that, Tendulkar and Anwar both were super aggressive batters. Tendulkar, however, had a much longer career and ended up as one of the best ever.

Anwar is still a better ODI batsman than Inzy but in terms of being more aggressive , he was well ahead of Inzy but behind Tendulkar.
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Inzimam was weak against spin?
 
Rana said:
Inzimam was weak against spin?
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weaker when compared to Azharuddin/Ganguly*

Also, given that his strike rate is 74, it is laughworthy to put him among the top 10 ODI bat of all-time.
 
Ab Fan said:
weaker when compared to Azharuddin/Ganguly*

Also, given that his strike rate is 74, it is laughworthy to put him among the top 10 ODI bat of all-time.
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When can't counter facts and figures/numbers, the debate turns into intangible factors like match winner, impact player, team man, etc.
 
Hitman said:
When can't counter facts and figures/numbers, the debate turns into intangible factors like match winner, impact player, team man, etc.
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How are the facts/figures/numbers suggestive of Inzimam being a weaker player of spin in comparison to Ganguly and Azharuddin?

There are probably numbers that suggest Babar is a better player of spin in comparison to Klaasen, does that make Babar better?
 
Rana said:
How are the facts/figures/numbers suggestive of Inzimam being a weaker player of spin in comparison to Ganguly and Azharuddin?

There are probably numbers that suggest Babar is a better player of spin in comparison to Klaasen, does that make Babar better?
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I was speaking solely about that strike rate of his.
 
I think Sehwag stands out as the most aggressive. To finish up with a test SR > 80 and and average close to 50 puts him in a class of his own.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Gambhir, Rizwan, Babar, Shakib are definitely not destructive batters.
They are balanced batsman who don’t have an extra gear like the others mentioned in your post.
I would remove even KL because even though he has shown his hitting abilities he still bats like a coward
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You can't have allrounders and sloggers as batters. Otherwise I'd include the likes of Razzaq etc.

As far as proper batters who have scored significantly in their career , I can't think of any others to be honest
 
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