2019 survey: Pakistanis happier, Indians dangerously unhappy in red zone

[moghul]

https://www.atlasandboots.com/happiest-countries-in-the-world-ranked/

I was surprised to see this survey, among the happiest nations in the world, Pakistanis are doing OK at # 67, but our much bigger and economically stronger neighbors are not happy, they are among the bottom nations at # 140. India is among the biggest drop in last 15 years , alongwith other war torn countries like Yemen, Syria, Botswana and Venezuela, shocking, isn;t it ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indians seem to have trouble smiling, not all but most are a miserable bunch.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Economic inequality. Too much wealth but accumulated in hands of only a few, very high Population could be the factors.

 

[slipcatch]

In today's India happiness is equated with how much paper you got, no one will truly be ever happy by just running after that paper and not everyone is going to get tons of paper.

Any criticism of India is met with, "India has a better economy", this shows that most Indian equating their happiness with how much $$.

 

[ElRaja]

in my subjective opinion Indians take themselves too seriously.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think Pakistanis have simpler needs and expectations. Most have an uncomplicated faith in God and that gives them a stoical perspective on life so need less to make them happy.

Indian faith seems to be tied to caste and reincarnation, so if you are not high born, then there is obviously scope for disaffection among large parts of the population.

That is obviously a very simplistic view, and there will be far more aspects which need to be considered, but we can come to those.

 

[Bosanquet]

I think Pakistanis have simpler needs and expectations. Most have an uncomplicated faith in God and that gives them a stoical perspective on life so need less to make them happy.

Indian faith seems to be tied to caste and reincarnation, so if you are not high born, then there is obviously scope for disaffection among large parts of the population.

That is obviously a very simplistic view, and there will be far more aspects which need to be considered, but we can come to those.

This is a very interesting but absolutely enormous report (7 chapters). I skim-read Chapter 2 titled "Changing world happiness" - nearly 50 pages with a lot of complex graphs and data. It is a SUBJECTIVE survey of how people feel about their lives scored on a 0 - 10 scale; country by country. Subsequent analysis of the results was done using 6 major factors including GDP (PPP) per capita, social support, freedom, healthy life expectancy, generosity and corruption. Religious belief is NOT cited as a factor.

It would require a few days intense study to read and understand the full report.
Good luck and happy reading to anyone who wishes to make the effort. It's called "World Happiness report".

 

[BreadPakoda]

Indians seem to have trouble smiling, not all but most are a miserable bunch.

Anyone would have, after looking at you j/k

Surprised to see Bhutan at 95, wasn't it like the happiest country once? Pakistan in the 60s could be due to the IK effect. Any way, happiness if so subjective and money isn't the only reason for happiness. I've seen a lot of wealthy unhappy people and lot of happy poor people.

 

[JaDed]

I think Pakistanis have simpler needs and expectations. Most have an uncomplicated faith in God and that gives them a stoical perspective on life so need less to make them happy.

Indian faith seems to be tied to caste and reincarnation, so if you are not high born, then there is obviously scope for disaffection among large parts of the population.

That is obviously a very simplistic view, and there will be far more aspects which need to be considered, but we can come to those.

The simplistic of views is that Indians believe in reincarnation.

 

[sweep_shot]

Very surprised to see BD being #125. I thought Bangladeshis were happier than this.

Canada is #9. Not surprising. I expected Canada to rank higher though.

Finland is #1. No surprise here.

 

[sweep_shot]

RANK COUNTRY SCORE
1 Finland 7.769
2 Denmark 7.600
3 Norway 7.554
4 Iceland 7.494
5 Netherlands 7.488
6 Switzerland 7.480
7 Sweden 7.343
8 New Zealand 7.307
9 Canada 7.278
10 Austria 7.246
11 Australia 7.228
12 Costa Rica 7.167
13 Israel 7.139
14 Luxembourg 7.090
15 United Kingdom 7.054
16 Ireland 7.021
17 Germany 6.985
18 Belgium 6.923
19 United States 6.892
20 Czech Republic 6.852
21 United Arab Emirates 6.825
22 Malta 6.726
23 Mexico 6.595
24 France 6.592
25 Taiwan 6.446
26 Chile 6.444
27 Guatemala 6.436
28 Saudi Arabia 6.375
29 Qatar 6.374
30 Spain 6.354
31 Panama 6.321
32 Brazil 6.300
33 Uruguay 6.293
34 Singapore 6.262
35 El Salvador 6.253
36 Italy 6.223
37 Bahrain 6.199
38 Slovakia 6.198
39 Trinidad and Tobago 6.192
40 Poland 6.182
41 Uzbekistan 6.174
42 Lithuania 6.149
43 Colombia 6.125
44 Slovenia 6.118
45 Nicaragua 6.105
46 Kosovo 6.100
47 Argentina 6.086
48 Romania 6.070
49 Cyprus 6.046
50 Ecuador 6.028
51 Kuwait 6.021
52 Thailand 6.008
53 Latvia 5.940
54 South Korea 5.895
55 Estonia 5.893
56 Jamaica 5.890
57 Mauritius 5.888
58 Japan 5.886
59 Honduras 5.86
60 Kazakhstan 5.809
61 Bolivia 5.779
62 Hungary 5.758
63 Paraguay 5.743
64 North Cyprus 5.718
65 Peru 5.697
66 Portugal 5.693
67 Pakistan 5.653
68 Russia 5.648
69 Philippines 5.631
70 Serbia 5.603
71 Moldova 5.529
72 Libya 5.525
73 Montenegro 5.523
74 Tajikistan 5.467
75 Croatia 5.432
76 Hong Kong S.A.R. of China 5.430
77 Dominican Republic 5.425
78 Bosnia and Herzegovina 5.386
79 Turkey 5.373
80 Malaysia 5.339
81 Belarus 5.323
82 Greece 5.287
83 Mongolia 5.285
84 Macedonia 5.274
85 Nigeria 5.265
86 Kyrgyzstan 5.261
87 Turkmenistan 5.247
88 Algeria 5.211
89 Morocco 5.208
90 Azerbaijan 5.208
91 Lebanon 5.197
92 Indonesia 5.192
93 China 5.191
94 Vietnam 5.175
95 Bhutan 5.082
96 Cameroon 5.044
97 Bulgaria 5.011
98 Ghana 4.996
99 Ivory Coast 4.944
100 Nepal 4.913
101 Jordan 4.906
102 Benin 4.883
103 Congo (Brazzaville) 4.812
104 Gabon 4.799
105 Laos 4.796
106 South Africa 4.722
107 Albania 4.719
108 Venezuela 4.707
109 Cambodia 4.700
110 Palestinian Territories 4.696
111 Senegal 4.681
112 Somalia 4.668
113 Namibia 4.639
114 Niger 4.628
115 Burkina Faso 4.587
116 Armenia 4.559
117 Iran 4.548
118 Guinea 4.534
119 Georgia 4.519
120 Gambia 4.516
121 Kenya 4.509
122 Mauritania 4.490
123 Mozambique 4.466
124 Tunisia 4.461
125 Bangladesh 4.456
126 Iraq 4.437
127 Congo (Kinshasa) 4.418
128 Mali 4.390
129 Sierra Leone 4.374
130 Sri Lanka 4.366
131 Myanmar 4.360
132 Chad 4.350
133 Ukraine 4.332
134 Ethiopia 4.286
135 Swaziland 4.212
136 Uganda 4.189
137 Egypt 4.166
138 Zambia 4.107
139 Togo 4.085
140 India 4.015
141 Liberia 3.975
142 Comoros 3.973
143 Madagascar 3.933
144 Lesotho 3.802
145 Burundi 3.775
146 Zimbabwe 3.663
147 Haiti 3.597
148 Botswana 3.488
149 Syria 3.462
150 Malawi 3.410
151 Yemen 3.380
152 Rwanda 3.334
153 Tanzania 3.231
154 Afghanistan 3.203
155 Central African Republic 3.083
156 South Sudan 2.853.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The simplistic of views is that Indians believe in reincarnation.

Yes but if you are born a low caste then you wouldn't feel happy with your lot in this incarnation.

 

[moghul]

I think Pakistanis have simpler needs and expectations. Most have an uncomplicated faith in God and that gives them a stoical perspective on life so need less to make them happy.

Indian faith seems to be tied to caste and reincarnation, so if you are not high born, then there is obviously scope for disaffection among large parts of the population.

That is obviously a very simplistic view, and there will be far more aspects which need to be considered, but we can come to those.

Living here in USA, I have both Pakistanis and Indian friends. Pakistanis are bit more fun loving, try to party on whatever chance they have and mix up easily to other Pakistanis with different ethnic groups, thanks to Urdu language which every Pakistani can communicate with. Indians as a whole a bit more successful economically, but party less, spend less on travel and parties and try to remain on their ethnic group. They do spend on buying bigger houses and yes they do spend on weddings. Even at my own work place, Punjabi Indians have more friendship than me than South Indians and they always communicate in English among themselves.

 

[Syed1]

RANK COUNTRY SCORE

9 Canada 7.278
10 Austria 7.246
11 Australia 7.228
12 Costa Rica 7.167
13 Israel 7.139
14 Luxembourg 7.090
15 United Kingdom 7.054
16 Ireland 7.021
17 Germany 6.985
18 Belgium 6.923
19 United States 6.892

This should end the UK vs Canada debate [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION]

 

[Mamoon]

Not surprising. We are a deluded nation.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not surprising. We are a deluded nation.

Pakistanis happier, Indians dangerously unhappy in red zone

The cat is out of the bag.

Why do you think Indians are a deluded nation and not happy as Pakistanis?

 

[Khan12]

Not surprising. We are a deluded nation.

People are not as miserable as you.

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistanis happier, Indians dangerously unhappy in red zone

The cat is out of the bag.

Why do you think Indians are a deluded nation and not happy as Pakistanis?

Pakistan is a deluded nation because people are happy in spite of the state of the country.

The reasons are obvious. We are victims of our self-created propaganda - we believe that we are a country with immense potential that is surrounded by enemies who cannot see us prosper.

We have convinced ourselves that we are faultless and countries like India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are fully responsible for the strained relationships.

When you are able to deflect the blame from yourself and not indulge in self-accountability, you will be happy and not take concern of your failures.

Moreover, the happiness of our people is also linked with religion and that leads to optimism. Since Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, we believe that we have a special status in the eyes of God who will always ensure that Pakistan prevails in the end.

As a result, we have developed the “whatever happens, happens for the best” attitude which is common among Muslims in general too. Whenever, something bad happens to us, we believe that since it is God’s will and he is testing us with hardships to strengthen our faith.

We always believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why also believe in messiah figures for example Imran Khan.

These are the major reasons why we are a deluded nation.

 

[Technics 1210]

Pakistan is a deluded nation because people are happy in spite of the state of the country.

The reasons are obvious. We are victims of our self-created propaganda - we believe that we are a country with immense potential that is surrounded by enemies who cannot see us prosper.

We have convinced ourselves that we are faultless and countries like India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are fully responsible for the strained relationships.

When you are able to deflect the blame from yourself and not indulge in self-accountability, you will be happy and not take concern of your failures.

Moreover, the happiness of our people is also linked with religion and that leads to optimism. Since Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, we believe that we have a special status in the eyes of God who will always ensure that Pakistan prevails in the end.

As a result, we have developed the “whatever happens, happens for the best” attitude which is common among Muslims in general too. Whenever, something bad happens to us, we believe that since it is God’s will and he is testing us with hardships to strengthen our faith.

We always believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why also believe in messiah figures for example Imran Khan.

These are the major reasons why we are a deluded nation.

Why did you vote for IK/PTI?

 

[troodon]

Who would be happy to live in a over crowded polluted country like India?

You have to also keep in mind that many Indians are trying to climb up the economic ladder to afford all the comforts that a rich man affords in India. The result being unhappiness and unsatisfied lives of middle class.

People pointing to caste have no clue. Many compete to call themselves as Dalits and low caste to avail reservations in jobs and edit.


It’s all about unequal distribution of wealth,population and pollution.

 

[szrana]

Pakistan is a deluded nation because people are happy in spite of the state of the country.

The reasons are obvious. We are victims of our self-created propaganda - we believe that we are a country with immense potential that is surrounded by enemies who cannot see us prosper.

We have convinced ourselves that we are faultless and countries like India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are fully responsible for the strained relationships.

When you are able to deflect the blame from yourself and not indulge in self-accountability, you will be happy and not take concern of your failures.

Moreover, the happiness of our people is also linked with religion and that leads to optimism. Since Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, we believe that we have a special status in the eyes of God who will always ensure that Pakistan prevails in the end.

As a result, we have developed the “whatever happens, happens for the best” attitude which is common among Muslims in general too. Whenever, something bad happens to us, we believe that since it is God’s will and he is testing us with hardships to strengthen our faith.

We always believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why also believe in messiah figures for example Imran Khan.

These are the major reasons why we are a deluded nation.

People should always be optimistic no matter what. Faith in God encourages us to be optimistic and never lose faith in him despite what difficulties you may face. That is what Muslims do, but if you are an atheist then you are bound to be pessimistic in the face of hardships and likely commit suicide.

 

[Heisenberg111]

Pakistanis are happier because they are content with whatever they have. They are chasing money or a life of materialism. If your life is not defined by materialism, then you will be happy even if you are poor. Thats what Islam teaches and true happiness is in fact spiritual. I have seen tons of rich people and celebrities who are very unhappy in their lives. And many of them commit suicide because of depression etc.

As they say money cannot buy happiness.

 

[slipcatch]

Pakistan is a deluded nation because people are happy in spite of the state of the country.

The reasons are obvious. We are victims of our self-created propaganda - we believe that we are a country with immense potential that is surrounded by enemies who cannot see us prosper.

We have convinced ourselves that we are faultless and countries like India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are fully responsible for the strained relationships.

When you are able to deflect the blame from yourself and not indulge in self-accountability, you will be happy and not take concern of your failures.

Moreover, the happiness of our people is also linked with religion and that leads to optimism. Since Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, we believe that we have a special status in the eyes of God who will always ensure that Pakistan prevails in the end.

As a result, we have developed the “whatever happens, happens for the best” attitude which is common among Muslims in general too. Whenever, something bad happens to us, we believe that since it is God’s will and he is testing us with hardships to strengthen our faith.

We always believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why also believe in messiah figures for example Imran Khan.

These are the major reasons why we are a deluded nation.

Mamoon 9,000, I think you are bigger delusional than any Pakistani I’ve ever met.

You claimed only 9,000 attendees were at the arena and we are yet to see an evidence from you? Were you inspired by Maryum Safdar and made things out of thin air?

 

[Heisenberg111]

Pakistanis are happier because they are content with whatever they have. They are not chasing money or a life of materialism. If your life is not defined by materialism, then you will be happy even if you are poor. Thats what Islam teaches and true happiness is in fact spiritual. I have seen tons of rich people and celebrities who are very unhappy in their lives. And many of them commit suicide because of depression etc.

As they say money cannot buy happiness.

Corrected*

 

[pillionrider]

These happiness surveys and things don't make any sense because happiness itself is so vague. Peace I understand. I mean I'm peaceful/happiest doing nothing. But to someone else I'd be a lazy depressed loser.

Anyway, this is a good opportunity to take a dig at Modi - in the words of a friend of mine - India is filled with frustrated and angry people, your typical Modi voter.

It doesn't make any sense. 5 years of Modi has only heightened the anger and yet they continue to support him.

 

[Chasing_The_Dream]

It’s not rocket science to conclude why Indians are so disheartened with their country especially when one sees such a huge Indian diaspora all over the world and particularly in North America. The Indian population outside of India is far greater than within and the reason for that is massive corruption on every level in India as well as a lack of basic infrastructure, water, lack of sanitation, polluted cities and crazy, chaotic traffic plus a glaring absence of a decent living standard. These are the genuine sentiments of numerous Indian colleagues and acquaintances who told me that they will never return to India due to these reasons.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It’s not rocket science to conclude why Indians are so disheartened with their country especially when one sees such a huge Indian diaspora all over the world and particularly in North America. The Indian population outside of India is far greater than within and the reason for that is massive corruption on every level in India as well as a lack of basic infrastructure, water, lack of sanitation, polluted cities and crazy, chaotic traffic plus a glaring absence of a decent living standard. These are the genuine sentiments of numerous Indian colleagues and acquaintances who told me that they will never return to India due to these reasons.

Great post. Hard hitting but everyone who reads it will know the truth of it.

 

[moghul]

These happiness surveys and things don't make any sense because happiness itself is so vague. Peace I understand. I mean I'm peaceful/happiest doing nothing. But to someone else I'd be a lazy depressed loser.

Anyway, this is a good opportunity to take a dig at Modi - in the words of a friend of mine - India is filled with frustrated and angry people, your typical Modi voter.

It doesn't make any sense. 5 years of Modi has only heightened the anger and yet they continue to support him.

Interestingly , India is one of the five countries with most drop in the ranking since 2005-2008, an era during which India made great economic progress . Other 4 countries in this list are all worn torn countries like Yemen, Syria, Botswana and Venzuela. So Indians are getting richer but less happier, interesting. Or, the case of uneven distribution of wealth ?

 

[Mamoon]

It’s not rocket science to conclude why Indians are so disheartened with their country especially when one sees such a huge Indian diaspora all over the world and particularly in North America. The Indian population outside of India is far greater than within and the reason for that is massive corruption on every level in India as well as a lack of basic infrastructure, water, lack of sanitation, polluted cities and crazy, chaotic traffic plus a glaring absence of a decent living standard. These are the genuine sentiments of numerous Indian colleagues and acquaintances who told me that they will never return to India due to these reasons.

Great post. Hard hitting but everyone who reads it will know the truth of it.

What makes Pakistanis happier when their country suffers from the same problems?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What makes Pakistanis happier when their country suffers from the same problems?

A healthier attitude obviously.

 

[Mamoon]

A healthier attitude obviously.

I won’t classify it as healthy, but I agree that there is a difference in attitude.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Pakistanis in general just have a more laid back approach to life.

Coupled that with their belief in God and destiny, I can see why they would rate higher than a lot of countries on happiness index despite living in a developing country.

 

[Itachi]

happiness is subjective. I think that's what mamoon was pointing out.

A Pakistani may become happier about B grade while an indian may not be happy with the same B grade. Based on happiness scale, Pakistani will be happier but an indian will fall into unhappy category.

Now, whether it is delusion or simple matter of difference of attitude will depend upon what were the criteria.

Falling in to the pit, yet doing nothing because of low expectation may keep someone happy but this happiness is coming out of delusion. Worrying and taking steps in order to climb yourself up will fall into unhappy category in above case but it is actually a positive attitude.

These research are simply meaningless.

 

[blackanhyellow]

happiness is subjective. I think that's what mamoon was pointing out.

A Pakistani may become happier about B grade while an indian may not be happy with the same B grade. Based on happiness scale, Pakistani will be happier but an indian will fall into unhappy category.

Now, whether it is delusion or simple matter of difference of attitude will depend upon what were the criteria.

Falling in to the pit, yet doing nothing because of low expectation may keep someone happy but this happiness is coming out of delusion. Worrying and taking steps in order to climb yourself up will fall into unhappy category in above case but it is actually a positive attitude.

These research are simply meaningless.

Its definitely about perception.

But always striving for more is not always the best attitude (as opposed to your b grade analogy).

Some people can be happy that they have enough to feed their kids 3 meals a day, others can be millionaires and still feel like they dont have enough, they become workaholics and neglect their family. Is is it a positive attitude to not be thankful for what you have rather than what you dont?

Or someone can be quite average looking yet be perfectly comfortable with that, on the other hand you have can a girl that looks like a model but she still feels fat. Is is more positive or less positive to be happy with the way you look rather than the way you could look if you starved yourself?

 

[Itachi]

Its definitely about perception.

But always striving for more is not always the best attitude (as opposed to your b grade analogy).

Some people can be happy that they have enough to feed their kids 3 meals a day, others can be millionaires and still feel like they dont have enough, they become workaholics and neglect their family. Is is it a positive attitude to not be thankful for what you have rather than what you dont?

Or someone can be quite average looking yet be perfectly comfortable with that, on the other hand you have can a girl that looks like a model but she still feels fat. Is is more positive or less positive to be happy with the way you look rather than the way you could look if you starved yourself?

thats why i said these stats are meaningless. It is only about happiness and unhappiness. Conclusion shouldn't be drawn upon based on it.

 

[Hitman]

As if these survey matter an inch to us. There are much bigger issues to worry about for both India and Pakistan. For a change, Pakistanis would much rather worry about their economy than whether they are happier than Indians in a certain survey.

And us Indians would much rather worry about the unfortunate lynchings carried by no good scroundels instead.

 

[slipcatch]

As if these survey matter an inch to us. There are much bigger issues to worry about for both India and Pakistan. For a change, Pakistanis would much rather worry about their economy than whether they are happier than Indians in a certain survey.

And us Indians would much rather worry about the unfortunate lynchings carried by no good scroundels instead.

Typical Indian reply.

What makes you think Pakistani aren't worry about economy?

Try watching Pak TV and 99.9% of the times Pak media and people are discussing Pak economy.

Most Indians aren't worry about getting lynched unless they are in minority.

 

[Hitman]

Typical Indian reply.

What makes you think Pakistani aren't worry about economy?

Try watching Pak TV and 99.9% of the times Pak media and people are discussing Pak economy.

Most Indians aren't worry about getting lynched unless they are in minority.

And where exactly did I say that Pakistanis don’t worry about the economy of their country? All I said is Pakistanis would much rather worry about their countries economy than such meaningless lists that serve them no purpose.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Who would be happy to live in a over crowded polluted country like India?

You have to also keep in mind that many Indians are trying to climb up the economic ladder to afford all the comforts that a rich man affords in India. The result being unhappiness and unsatisfied lives of middle class.

People pointing to caste have no clue. Many compete to call themselves as Dalits and low caste to avail reservations in jobs and edit.


It’s all about unequal distribution of wealth,population and pollution.

You have hit the nail on the head with this comment lol. That is exactly what's wrong with Indians in general. Jealousy is another reason. They can't see someone they know become rich and enjoying his/her life. They will try their best to bring them down. In most cases its your own relatives and family members who do these things.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

thats why i said these stats are meaningless. It is only about happiness and unhappiness. Conclusion shouldn't be drawn upon based on it.

Yet you are drawing conclusion that Pakistanis are settling for less based on Mamoon's personal opinion that Pakistanis are delusional. Being happy hardly means that you are not going to strive for a better life, this is just one poster projecting his own unhappiness to take a swipe at those who don't share his outlook.

 

[slipcatch]

And where exactly did I say that Pakistanis don’t worry about the economy of their country? All I said is Pakistanis would much rather worry about their countries economy than such meaningless lists that serve them no purpose.

Apology, read it wrong.

Pakistani are worry and will always continue to worry to thrive for better as anyone in the world.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Pakistan is a deluded nation because people are happy in spite of the state of the country.

The reasons are obvious. We are victims of our self-created propaganda - we believe that we are a country with immense potential that is surrounded by enemies who cannot see us prosper.

We have convinced ourselves that we are faultless and countries like India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh are fully responsible for the strained relationships.

When you are able to deflect the blame from yourself and not indulge in self-accountability, you will be happy and not take concern of your failures.

Moreover, the happiness of our people is also linked with religion and that leads to optimism. Since Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, we believe that we have a special status in the eyes of God who will always ensure that Pakistan prevails in the end.

As a result, we have developed the “whatever happens, happens for the best” attitude which is common among Muslims in general too. Whenever, something bad happens to us, we believe that since it is God’s will and he is testing us with hardships to strengthen our faith.

We always believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that is why also believe in messiah figures for example Imran Khan.

These are the major reasons why we are a deluded nation.

happiness is subjective. I think that's what mamoon was pointing out.

A Pakistani may become happier about B grade while an indian may not be happy with the same B grade. Based on happiness scale, Pakistani will be happier but an indian will fall into unhappy category.

Now, whether it is delusion or simple matter of difference of attitude will depend upon what were the criteria.

Falling in to the pit, yet doing nothing because of low expectation may keep someone happy but this happiness is coming out of delusion. Worrying and taking steps in order to climb yourself up will fall into unhappy category in above case but it is actually a positive attitude.

These research are simply meaningless.

 

[Itachi]

Yet you are drawing conclusion that Pakistanis are settling for less based on Mamoon's personal opinion that Pakistanis are delusional. Being happy hardly means that you are not going to strive for a better life, this is just one poster projecting his own unhappiness to take a swipe at those who don't share his outlook.

Where did I say that? I myself stated that conclusion shouldn't be drawn.

About mamoon, I just tried to clarify what he probably want to mean. Doesn't mean I agree with the conclusions.

 

[Itachi]

.... And the point is?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Where did I say that? I myself stated that conclusion shouldn't be drawn.

About mamoon, I just tried to clarify what he probably want to mean. Doesn't mean I agree with the conclusions.

You said "A Pakistani may become happier about B grade while an indian may not be happy with the same B grade. Based on happiness scale, Pakistani will be happier but an indian will fall into unhappy category."


That's one view, but then another might be that Indians don't feel that they have the opportunity to have a better life in India because they are actually living a B grade life in reality.

 

[Itachi]

You said "A Pakistani may become happier about B grade while an indian may not be happy with the same B grade. Based on happiness scale, Pakistani will be happier but an indian will fall into unhappy category."


That's one view, but then another might be that Indians don't feel that they have the opportunity to have a better life in India because they are actually living a B grade life in reality.

you missed this.

Now, whether it is delusion or simple matter of difference of attitude will depend upon what were the criteria.

which means, without knowing the circumstances, one can not make conclusions.

 

[Civil]

Hard to bucket all India into one bucket tbh. Or any country. If you are doing an average it's fine I guess but really doesn't mean anything to compare. Someone in Finland could be absolutely miserable compared to a person in defense Karachi.

Just my two cents from diapora in North America I've met but I feel Sikh Punjabi Indians and Pakistanis very similar attitude and laid back nature. Say everything openly to the face.

South Indians and bengalis I find pretty happy if not just extra cautious all the time, And guys from Kerala are hilarious and funny.

It's the Gujus, Mumbai walas and Delhi and UP and Bihar folks I think of when this unhappiness scale is presented.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

you missed this.



which means, without knowing the circumstances, one can not make conclusions.

You defended Mamoon's negative spin which classed Pakistanis as delusional, then presented a rationale to support it - albeit including the disclaimer you have highlighted.

Nothing wrong with that per se, everyone is entitled to an opinion, equally others can present theirs. All we have to work on is the data in the OP.

 

[Itachi]

You defended Mamoon's negative spin which classed Pakistanis as delusional, then presented a rationale to support it - albeit including the disclaimer you have highlighted.

Nothing wrong with that per se, everyone is entitled to an opinion, equally others can present theirs. All we have to work on is the data in the OP.

You seem to miss a lot of points.

Explaining someone's word doesn't necessarily mean it is defending. Words may carry different perception to different people and I just wrote one of mine while reading mamoons post. That isn't my opinion nor I am agreeing/disagreeing what he wrote.

 

[amax]

Talking to my Indian friends, the feel I get is that there is lot of frustration among youth because of severe competition for small resources e.g If you don't get into one of IIT or NIT(mighty tough competition) there is no future as an engineer in job market. Many people loose heart and leave for abroad. Reservation system is also a reason for strong discomfort among youth.

 

[JaDed]

Japan is #58 just fyi... below Jamaica lol ...

 

[JaDed]

Talking to my Indian friends, the feel I get is that there is lot of frustration among youth because of severe competition for small resources e.g If you don't get into one of IIT or NIT(mighty tough competition) there is no future as an engineer in job market. Many people loose heart and leave for abroad. Reservation system is also a reason for strong discomfort among youth.

Jobs are there in those fields but everyone wants more pay..maybe Indians are not content , I wasn’t as well I guess.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Talking to my Indian friends, the feel I get is that there is lot of frustration among youth because of severe competition for small resources e.g If you don't get into one of IIT or NIT(mighty tough competition) there is no future as an engineer in job market. Many people loose heart and leave for abroad. Reservation system is also a reason for strong discomfort among youth.

Anger and frustration is in their very nature. Indians as a qaum have a huge sense of entitlement and get offended easily. Even the convent educated indians you encounter act civilized only in select environments with their fellow convent educated brethren, and turn feudal the moment they deal with the proletariat and peasant class.