2020 Democratic Party presidential candidates [Bernie Sanders drops out Update#741]

[Gabbar Singh]

November 2020, the date of the next US presidential election, is still some time away however the Democrats have already started putting names forward for candidates.

So far we have:

Announced:

Kamala Harris
Elizabeth Warren
Kirsten Gillibrand
Julian Castro
Tulsi Gabbard

Unannounced but likely to run:

Joe Biden
Eric Swalwell
Cory Booker
Beto O’Rourke
Bernie Sanders
Sherrod Brown

Will Hillary run again?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daily Kos poll:<br><br>Kamala Harris - 27%<br>Elizabeth Warren - 18%<br>Joe Biden - 13%<br>Bernie Sanders - 12%<br>Beto O'Rourke - 8%<br>Sheered Brown - 6%<br>Cory Booker - 2%<br>Tulsi Gabbard - 1%<br>Unsure - 6%<br>Other - 5%</p>— Edward Hardy (@EdwardTHardy) <a href="https://twitter.com/EdwardTHardy/status/1088557052287479808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PREDICTION: Chances of winning the Democratic Party presidential nomination in 2020.<br><br>Kamala Harris: 25%<br>Beto O'Rourke: 20%<br>Joe Biden: 17%<br>Bernie Sanders: 13%<br>Elizabeth Warren: 10%<br>Other: 15% <a href="https://t.co/cHpVnhHNHf">pic.twitter.com/cHpVnhHNHf</a></p>— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) <a href="https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1087515186947387392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[GBK_Fan]

Kamala most likely. Warren will probably fizzle out in the primaries. Others who have announced stand no chance

 

[ManFan]

It’s very difficult to beat a president; the tide is on Trump’s side.

I just don’t see any dynamic Democratic option right now but there’s still a year left so who knows.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

It’s very difficult to beat a president; the tide is on Trump’s side.

I just don’t see any dynamic Democratic option right now but there’s still a year left so who knows.

The polling doesn’t look good for Trump - he’s the most unpopular president in modern US history. I think he’ll follow Carter and Bush senior and end up a one term president. He lost the popular vote by quite a margin too in 2016. As long as the Democrats don’t select someone as divisive as Hillary again I think they’ll beat Trump convincingly.

 

[GBK_Fan]

The polling doesn’t look good for Trump - he’s the most unpopular president in modern US history. I think he’ll follow Carter and Bush senior and end up a one term president. He lost the popular vote by quite a margin too in 2016. As long as the Democrats don’t select someone as divisive as Hillary again I think they’ll beat Trump convincingly.

None of the democrats announced can win the rust belt or the swing states. Almost all of them are too far left on core issues like gun rights and immigration

 

[ManFan]

None of the democrats announced can win the rust belt or the swing states. Almost all of them are too far left on core issues like gun rights and immigration

Exactly.

Trump won 2016 because of the neglected Rust Belt while Hillary spread herself too thin.

 

[JaDed]

None of the democrats announced can win the rust belt or the swing states. Almost all of them are too far left on core issues like gun rights and immigration

Well said but I do genuinely believe Sanders could had won inspite of being a socialist.

 

[JaDed]

Why does Kamala Harris poll better than Tulsi makes no sense at times? Is she the silicon valley sponsored stooge?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Why does Kamala Harris poll better than Tulsi makes no sense at times? Is she the silicon valley sponsored stooge?

Gabbard doesn't have much of a chance of winning the nomination - she's quite a divisive figure. She backed Bernie in 2016 very early on which the Democratic establishment didn't like, she's anti Wall Street in it's current form, anti arms sales to Saudi Arabia, opposed the Iraq war, opposed the Libya military action, opposed the action in Syria, supported Assad. She's also met with Trump a few times which the Democratics didn't like. Her party see her as an outsider. She's also opposed civil unions and same-sex marriage in the past.

 

[slipcatch]

Gabbard doesn't have much of a chance of winning the nomination - she's quite a divisive figure. She backed Bernie in 2016 very early on which the Democratic establishment didn't like, she's anti Wall Street in it's current form, anti arms sales to Saudi Arabia, opposed the Iraq war, opposed the Libya military action, opposed the action in Syria, supported Assad. She's also met with Trump a few times which the Democratics didn't like. Her party see her as an outsider. She's also opposed civil unions and same-sex marriage in the past.

I don't think she is in it to win, she is there to get whatever coverage she can get, after this, her career as a politician is pretty much over.

 

[slipcatch]

Trump will be re-elected.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

*She's also against the current interference in Venezuelan politics - Bernie and her have made their positions clear on this issue. Every other major democrat has remained silent.

 

[James]

The Dems would be daft to choose Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren. Trump detests her as it is - he would just run rings around her using various personal insults, turn her into a national joke, and win easily.

Kamala Harris, on the other hand, might be one of the only people who is able to beat him.

 

[Chrish]

The polling doesn’t look good for Trump - he’s the most unpopular president in modern US history. I think he’ll follow Carter and Bush senior and end up a one term president. He lost the popular vote by quite a margin too in 2016. As long as the Democrats don’t select someone as divisive as Hillary again I think they’ll beat Trump convincingly.

There is a certain class of Americans who thinks their feeling of hatred and frustration have been suppressed for far too long. Trump connects directly with their secret suppressed desires. He speaks the words on behalf of them that they were too afraid to speak. For them, he embodies the "revolution". This government shutdown might seem like a failure but mark my words; it will only deepen the feeling of reverence among Trump supporters. For them, it was a failure and disgrace on part of Democrats who didn't allow Trump to build the wall.

If anything, this improves Trump's chance even more for 2020.

 

[Chrish]

Dems are too tied up with political diversity; constantly promoting candidates who are either minority and/ or women. As a political party, their focus should be on finding the most suitable candidate to challenge Trump rather than focusing on being 'different'.

 

[iHammad]

It will be Kamala and Trump will defeat her

 

[Chrish]

Folks like Warren, Bernie and Biden are too old to win IMO.

Harris seems like the strongest candidate right now but lot can and will happen in one year. Very excited about this election.

 

[Pakistanian]

Thank G-d, Tulsi Gabbard is only polling at 1%. She's more of a conservative than a liberal and has ties with the RSS/Hindu fundamentalists, she might get the Hindu and Pro-Israel vote in America but other than that she's alienated most liberals, Muslims, LGBTs, anti-Assadists etc

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Biden is old at 76 but then Trump isn’t a spring chicken either at 72.

I think Biden as Presidential candidate and a woman or person of colour as VP candidate would make a good combination.

Biden is a likeable man and can connect with Trump voters, blue collar workers etc better than some others.

 

[Chrish]

Trump already has been in the office for few years now. Biden will have to start from scratch (sorry VP experience which is nothing more than a secretary job doesn’t count). Look how many words (not even sentence) Mike Peance has spoken?

Also no VP has ever ran for president before iirc. So, history is against him.

 

[Markhor]

Biden has a big lead in the early polling. However he's been close with the credit card industry in Delaware and will need to explain his role in mass incarceration that the 1994 Crime Bill caused.

Not to mention his treatment of Anita Hill.

My preference would be Sherrod Brown. He won in the increasingly red state of Ohio, is pro-union, and shares one similarity in Trump in opposing trade deals like NAFTA.

 

[Markhor]

Trump already has been in the office for few years now. Biden will have to start from scratch (sorry VP experience which is nothing more than a secretary job doesn’t count). Look how many words (not even sentence) Mike Peance has spoken?

Also no VP has ever ran for president before iirc. So, history is against him.

Richard Nixon was Ike's VP and George HW Bush was Reagan's VP, and they both won Presidential elections.

 

[Chrish]

Richard Nixon was Ike's VP and George HW Bush was Reagan's VP, and they both won Presidential elections.

Cool! Had no idea about this.

 

[Robert]

The polling doesn’t look good for Trump - he’s the most unpopular president in modern US history. I think he’ll follow Carter and Bush senior and end up a one term president. He lost the popular vote by quite a margin too in 2016. As long as the Democrats don’t select someone as divisive as Hillary again I think they’ll beat Trump convincingly.

Yep.

I would back Joe Biden but he is too old. His time was probably the last election but Obama reckoned he wouldn't beat Clinton, and he tragically lost his son.

Corey Brooker I like but probably too scary for white America.

Might be worth giving Sanders another run.

 

[Robert]

Richard Nixon was Ike's VP and George HW Bush was Reagan's VP, and they both won Presidential elections.

Then there were Truman and LBJ, though they both stepped into the POTUS's shoes and then won elections in their own right.

 

[Pakistanian]

Biden is old at 76 but then Trump isn’t a spring chicken either at 72.

I think Biden as Presidential candidate and a woman or person of colour as VP candidate would make a good combination.

Biden is a likeable man and can connect with Trump voters, blue collar workers etc better than some others.

Biden isn't likeable, at least with the millennial generation, look up "creepy biden" on youtube. Most of the youth views him as a creep.

 

[iHammad]

A younger version of Bernie Sanders would be the perfect opponent for Trump

 

[Chrish]

Hehe politics is a cruel mistress, isn't she?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fo...sses-past-relationship-with-sen-kamala-harris

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Hope its between Bernie and Warren.

 

[slipcatch]

Hope its between Bernie and Warren.

I hope it’s between Bernie and Trump.

 

[slipcatch]

A younger version of Bernie Sanders would be the perfect opponent for Trump

Beto?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I hope it’s between Bernie and Trump.

I meant in the primaries. One battle at a time. Dems need to figure out their own policy preferences before challenging Trump in the presidential elections. Civility policing and identity politics is going nowhere. Its about time they grow up a spine and fight for something they truly believe.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

beto?

lol.

 

[ManFan]

People are deluding themselves if they think Bernie will beat Trump if he gets the Democratic nomination.

His democratic-socialist policies are too radical for Americans to consider implementing and even if he does win, the House and Congress will make sure he accomplishes zilch.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

People are deluding themselves if they think Bernie will beat Trump if he gets the Democratic nomination.

His democratic-socialist policies are too radical for Americans to consider implementing and even if he does win, the House and Congress will make sure he accomplishes zilch.

Well then his detractors have nothing to worry about, do they?

 

[ahsan17]

People are deluding themselves if they think Bernie will beat Trump if he gets the Democratic nomination.

His democratic-socialist policies are too radical for Americans to consider implementing and even if he does win, the House and Congress will make sure he accomplishes zilch.

Haven't polls shown that most Americans already agree with his policies? Like public healthcare, free college, affordable housing etc.

 

[slipcatch]

Haven't polls shown that most Americans already agree with his policies? Like public healthcare, free college, affordable housing etc.

They do.

If it wasn't true then Trump and Ryan would have been successful in repealing Affordable care act.

Other predominately Liberal states are moving towards cheap and in some cases free education at university level, e.g, NYS, in NYS all State Universities are free of cost for those who can't afford.

 

[slipcatch]

I meant in the primaries. One battle at a time. Dems need to figure out their own policy preferences before challenging Trump in the presidential elections. Civility policing and identity politics is going nowhere. Its about time they grow up a spine and fight for something they truly believe.

Immigration is going to be the biggest issue, Democrats need to come up with a policy that will help solidify their position among swing voters and those republican who have had it with Trump, but I doubt most American are smart enough to realize that "The Great Wall of the South" isn't the answer for immigration.

 

[slipcatch]

The Dems would be daft to choose Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren. Trump detests her as it is - he would just run rings around her using various personal insults, turn her into a national joke, and win easily.

Kamala Harris, on the other hand, might be one of the only people who is able to beat him.

Pochaontas won't be winning, but again, that is what people said about Trump. Welcome to Crazy Amreeka.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Immigration is going to be the biggest issue, Democrats need to come up with a policy that will help solidify their position among swing voters and those republican who have had it with Trump, but I doubt most American are smart enough to realize that "The Great Wall of the South" isn't the answer for immigration.

Ending the drug wars is a potential solution. Criminalizing the use of certain substances have given the monopoly to the cartels in Mexico and on the southern borders to infiltrate and consolidate their illegal empire. The so-called illegal immigration is part of that problem. Legalize these substance and introduce quality control and they wouldn't need a wall. However, the private jail contractors will not like it.

 

[slipcatch]

Ending the drug wars is a potential solution. Criminalizing the use of certain substances have given the monopoly to the cartels in Mexico and on the southern borders to infiltrate and consolidate their illegal empire. The so-called illegal immigration is part of that problem. Legalize these substance and introduce quality control and they wouldn't need a wall. However, the private jail contractors will not like it.

Won't happen for another 20 to 30 years, exception is Marijuana.

Too much money to be made by private jail contractors.

 

[Bosanquet]

Then there were Truman and LBJ, though they both stepped into the POTUS's shoes and then won elections in their own right.

There were 14 VEEPs who eventually became Prez. 9 by replacing dead or resigned prezzies and 5 who were elected in their own right.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Won't happen for another 20 to 30 years, exception is Marijuana.

Too much money to be made by private jail contractors.

But it can be used as a major issue for a presidential nomination/run.

 

[ManFan]

They do.

If it wasn't true then Trump and Ryan would have been successful in repealing Affordable care act.

Other predominately Liberal states are moving towards cheap and in some cases free education at university level, e.g, NYS, in NYS all State Universities are free of cost for those who can't afford.

70% agree on Medicaid policy and you already mentioned the SUNY and CUNY universities.

However, his increased tax rates and relative notoriety in the African-American community (He lost to Hillary by a margin of fifty points) might make it tough for him to come out on top but he has his best chance in 2020.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

70% agree on Medicaid policy and you already mentioned the SUNY and CUNY universities.

However, his increased tax rates and relative notoriety in the African-American community (He lost to Hillary by a margin of fifty points) might make it tough for him to come out on top but he has his best chance in 2020.

I think he is popular enough among ethnic minorities to pull it of.

 

[Markhor]

Not impressed by Beto O'Rourke. Full of fluffy rhetoric with little substance. He has one of the most conservative voting records of all prospective Democratic primary candidates, and has received nearly half a million dollars from the oil and gas industry.

He obviously was preferable to Ted Cruz in the Senate race but progressives should be wary of him.

 

[moghul]

Democratic party will lose again , due to their pathetic four point agenda but nothing beyond that

1-Raising taxes
2-Working for Gay rights
3-Encouraging illegal immigrants . legalize them years later and adding to their vote bank.
4-Legalize drugs

They are worst than the idiot we have in WH at the moment.

 

[Markhor]

[MENTION=141839]moghul[/MENTION]

Obama deported nearly 3 million illegals in office, more than any US President.

Not sure what your beef is with equal rights for gays or legalising drugs like marijuana when alcohol and LEGAL opioids kills far more each year.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

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[Farz]

Another fake progressive enters the race. Seems like Dems haven't learned their lesson from 2016 yet. Fake progressives are entering the race just to muddy the waters for real progressives.

 

[USofA]

I do not see anyone among the people who have announced beating Trump. All of them are (currently) too far to the left of the independents or centrists to vote for them.

Anyways, I think these people are running to gain some name recognition to lead to something else. There is no way people are voting for Booker, Warren, Harris et all. Biden and Bloomberg are probably stronger candidates.

 

[Pakistanian]

Another fake progressive enters the race. Seems like Dems haven't learned their lesson from 2016 yet. Fake progressives are entering the race just to muddy the waters for real progressives.

a real progressive would never win

 

[ahsan17]

a real progressive would never win

Bernie would wipe the floor with Trump.

 

[Farz]

a real progressive would never win

If Democrats let people decide and not rig the system, then absolutely a progressive can win. Just look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, took down 4th most powerful establishment democrat. Bernie would have won against Trump, if establishment wasn't so busy fixing the primaries.

 

[Pakistanian]

Bernie would wipe the floor with Trump.

He would have to compromise his platform.

 

[Farz]

I do not see anyone among the people who have announced beating Trump. All of them are (currently) too far to the left of the independents or centrists to vote for them.

Anyways, I think these people are running to gain some name recognition to lead to something else. There is no way people are voting for Booker, Warren, Harris et all. Biden and Bloomberg are probably stronger candidates.

Hillary Clinton, she is centrist. What happened to her in 2016? Biden couldn't make it when country was actually more in center. Americans overwhelmingly support leftist policies now, do you really think any democrat can win with centrist policies?

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Hillary Clinton, she is centrist. What happened to her in 2016? Biden couldn't make it when country was actually more in center. Americans overwhelmingly support leftist policies now, do you really think any democrat can win with centrist policies?

Hard core Republicans will never vote for a Democrat. Democrat voters are tired of the corporate centrists lecturing them about political correctness and bi-partisan consensus. Populist left is the only way forward for the Democrats. Can't see why a swing voter would reject the idea of free healthcare and debt free college if the idea is presented properly.

 

[USofA]

Hillary Clinton, she is centrist. What happened to her in 2016? Biden couldn't make it when country was actually more in center. Americans overwhelmingly support leftist policies now, do you really think any democrat can win with centrist policies?

Certainly the Democrats (at least most of them) will vote for a leftist. But will the independents? I don't think so. They make about 10%-12% of the voters. Let alone the Republicans.

We are still a center/center right country for the most part. So leftist policies have 50% support at best.

 

[USofA]

Hard core Republicans will never vote for a Democrat. Democrat voters are tired of the corporate centrists lecturing them about political correctness and bi-partisan consensus. Populist left is the only way forward for the Democrats. Can't see why a swing voter would reject the idea of free healthcare and debt free college if the idea is presented properly.

Nothing is free. The money has to come from somewhere. I can easily see how independents would not buy all the "free" stuff. In fact, I don't see some Democrats buying this. In fact the establishment Democrats and leadership like the Pelosi's and Schumer's have no interest in passing such "free" stuff. Because not only do they live a comfortable life, they know that there is no way it is getting passed into law.

The "free" stuff will fly in a few states but not in the country as a whole. Generally as a nation, we still believe in low taxes, free market and the freedom to pursue what we want and keep the fruits of that labor.

 

[Robert]

Cory Booker (Sen-NJ) has entered the race.

I think I like him but the US veterans don't after his Big Pharma backers influenced him to vote down cheap medicines from Canada. He might be a bit of a corporate schill.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

Nothing is free. The money has to come from somewhere. I can easily see how independents would not buy all the "free" stuff. In fact, I don't see some Democrats buying this. In fact the establishment Democrats and leadership like the Pelosi's and Schumer's have no interest in passing such "free" stuff. Because not only do they live a comfortable life, they know that there is no way it is getting passed into law.

The "free" stuff will fly in a few states but not in the country as a whole. Generally as a nation, we still believe in low taxes, free market and the freedom to pursue what we want and keep the fruits of that labor.

Nothing is inherently free. When ppl talk about Medicare for all they mean bringing the healthcare system at par with something like NHS. It having higher approval rating makes it more promising.

 

[moghul]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m running for president. Join me on this journey. <a href="https://t.co/fEDqOVIfwh">https://t.co/fEDqOVIfwh</a> <a href="https://t.co/h1FTPUYRzo">pic.twitter.com/h1FTPUYRzo</a></p>— Cory Booker (@CoryBooker) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/1091308916879884288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Out of pathetic democratic line up, he would be the worst. He would remind people Obama's horrible 8 years and that will further reduce Dems chances.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cory Booker Apologizes To Wall Street Bankers For The Mean Things He’s Going To Have To Say About Them <a href="https://t.co/FqAZrIf719">https://t.co/FqAZrIf719</a> <a href="https://t.co/RJVafdoHkv">pic.twitter.com/RJVafdoHkv</a></p>— The Onion (@TheOnion) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1091405915209768960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[James]

Trump must be licking his lips with this opposition lineup. Looks a bit rubbish.

 

[IMMY69]

It would take a celebrity to have any chance of toppling Trump.
Someone like an Oprah or Clooney. Even Michelle Obama would have a chance.

The only way I see Trump not being President in 2020 is if he's impeached or forced to resign.

 

[Markhor]

Trump must be licking his lips with this opposition lineup. Looks a bit rubbish.

With a 39% approval rating and the impending Muller report he shouldn't be so sure of re-election.

 

[moghul]

Trump must be licking his lips with this opposition lineup. Looks a bit rubbish.

Agree, Trump is lucky people like Booker, my fellow New Jerseyan are among his possible opponents.

 

[ahsan17]

Cory Booker (Sen-NJ) has entered the race.

I think I like him but the US veterans don't after his Big Pharma backers influenced him to vote down cheap medicines from Canada. He might be a bit of a corporate schill.

Not "might". He is a known big time corporate democrat. The only democrats that I know of that are not owned by corporations are Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. Not sure about Tulsi Gabbard. Kamala and Cory Booker are both in the pockets of the corporations.

 

[sjahmed23]

Democrat candidates need to make a splash, give something more than just the regular boring old stuff. This is why bernie was so popular, he said it like it was and did not worry about party lines.

 

[James]

With a 39% approval rating and the impending Muller report he shouldn't be so sure of re-election.

On the approval rating, it’s a stronger number for Trump than it looks on the surface. Look back at every poll stretching to before his election even, and there has always been around 35-40% of the electorate who are his blood-red acolytes and would vote for him no matter what.

This only leaves another 10% or so of prize votes amongst the college that he has to convince in the swing states. He won in 2016 by squeaking victory in almost all of the big swing states. That will be the plan again. He has no interest in going for a popular vote majority.

The much more interesting factor is the Mueller investigation. When it finally finds it way to the top, we could be looking at the first ever successfully impeached US executive. Because he is way too stubborn and arrogant to ever resign.

 

[USofA]

Nothing is inherently free. When ppl talk about Medicare for all they mean bringing the healthcare system at par with something like NHS. It having higher approval rating makes it more promising.

I have to say that I have no clue about the UK health care system. But I can tell you that we (US) have the best hospitals and care anywhere. Our facilities are second to none. In fact, we are pioneers in the medical field with new techniques, medications and medical instruments.

Issues are addressed quickly and the care is of the highest standard. Not to mention, excellent choice of doctors, especially their talent, knowledge and abilities. For example, something as serious as cancer, people see a doctor, schedule and complete the surgery all in about three weeks or so. Even for something as low end as dental cleaning, I just called my dentist, scheduled an appointment at a time convenient to me, two days later clean teeth! I say that is high standard care.

My apologies for veering off topic.

 

[GBK_Fan]

People are discounting the abortion late term abortion bills which the democrats are championing. It has the potential to move a lot of the swing votes firmly into trump land

 

[Chrish]

On the approval rating, it’s a stronger number for Trump than it looks on the surface. Look back at every poll stretching to before his election even, and there has always been around 35-40% of the electorate who are his blood-red acolytes and would vote for him no matter what.

This only leaves another 10% or so of prize votes amongst the college that he has to convince in the swing states. He won in 2016 by squeaking victory in almost all of the big swing states. That will be the plan again. He has no interest in going for a popular vote majority.

The much more interesting factor is the Mueller investigation. When it finally finds it way to the top, we could be looking at the first ever successfully impeached US executive. Because he is way too stubborn and arrogant to ever resign.

Honestly don't think it will happen. Trump and his close family have been extremely careful about removing all the traces that would directly link them. And in order to impeach the president, you need direct evidence IMO. President has different status and protection and convicting his subordinates won't be enough.

 

[Chrish]

How much Ralph Northam controversy hurt Dems?

 

[Gilly]

Honestly don't think it will happen. Trump and his close family have been extremely careful about removing all the traces that would directly link them. And in order to impeach the president, you need direct evidence IMO. President has different status and protection and convicting his subordinates won't be enough.

Maybe there is no such evidence at all, two years and what is it now 17 investigations and nothing, zilch, nada, zero. Democrats are living on desperation.

 

[Chrish]

I wouldn't call it "zilch" as several of his close subordinates have been put behind the bars. Dems can certainly use that against him in 2020 election and it will also affect his legacy as the president.

But in the end, all this won't be enough to impeach him. Sadly, Mueller investigation has gone as far as it can go IMO and I doubt there will be any further major revelation.

 

[Chrish]

If Ralph Northam doesn't resign, Dems will most likely loose the state of Virginia in 2020.

 

[Gilly]

I wouldn't call it "zilch" as several of his close subordinates have been put behind the bars. Dems can certainly use that against him in 2020 election and it will also affect his legacy as the president.

But in the end, all this won't be enough to impeach him. Sadly, Mueller investigation has gone as far as it can go IMO and I doubt there will be any further major revelation.

OK then what have they uncovered about Trump. Two years and 17 odd investigations and what have they got to charge Trump with other than zilch, nada, nothing, zero.

 

[Gilly]

If Ralph Northam doesn't resign, Dems will most likely loose the state of Virginia in 2020.

I dont think he should resign, he should just serve his time and not run again.