2023 World Cup blockbuster India versus Pakistan clash to be held on October 14

[CricketZ]

Pakistan has agreed to tour India for the World Cup, independent of the continued standoff and uncertainty over the Asia Cup, but it is believed to have expressed a few concerns.

Majorly, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is understood to be having reservations over playing the big game against India in Ahmedabad and that could be one of the reasons, it is being assumed, why Najam Sethi, the chairman of the PCB, visited the ICC office in Dubai over the last couple of days.

Having agreed in principle to come to India for the quadrennial championship, the PCB chief seems to be asking for a few changes to the venues of its matches as a face-saver. However, it is learnt that the PCB has agreed to play the final in Ahmedabad, should its team reach the title clash.

As per the tentative schedule drawn so far, Pakistan will play its games in Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Chennai and Bengaluru. The BCCI has provided venues in the South Zone for the most Pakistan games with Chennai, which has a record of being a peaceful host with a very sporting crowd, getting a few extra games.

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The 2023 Men's 50 over World Cup will kick off and close in Ahmedabad. The game between England and New Zealand on October 5 is likely to be the inaugural match while the final will also be held at the Narendra Modi Stadium in Motera, on November 19.

According to reliable sources, India's opening match will be against Australia and in all likelihood, it will be in Chennai. The blockbuster game against Pakistan will be on October 15, which is a Sunday, like the final on November 19.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) is expected to come up with the schedule soon, most likely after the on-going Indian Premier League (IPL), after obtaining the formal approval from all concerned. As the host, the BCCI of course could have the final say on the dates and venues.

In further news, Cricbuzz can confirm that Pakistan has agreed to tour India for the World Cup, independent of the continued standoff and uncertainty over the Asia Cup, but it is believed to have expressed a few concerns.

Majorly, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is understood to be having reservations over playing the big game against India in Ahmedabad and that could be one of the reasons, it is being assumed, why Najam Sethi, the chairman of the PCB, visited the ICC office in Dubai over the last couple of days.

Having agreed in principle to come to India for the quadrennial championship, the PCB chief seems to be asking for a few changes to the venues of its matches as a face-saver. However, it is learnt that the PCB has agreed to play the final in Ahmedabad, should its team reach the title clash.

As per the tentative schedule drawn so far, Pakistan will play its games in Ahmedabad, Hyderabad, Chennai and Bengaluru. The BCCI has provided venues in the South Zone for the most Pakistan games with Chennai, which has a record of being a peaceful host with a very sporting crowd, getting a few extra games.

Apart from Ahmedabad and the three south centres, Kolkata, Delhi, Indore, Dharamsala, Guwahati, Rajkot, Raipur and Mumbai are the designated venues with Mohali and Nagpur missing out from the list. The Wankhede in Mumbai is likely to get a semifinal. Each team will play nine league games which means most centres, if not all, will get an India game each.

In all there will be 10 teams and 48 games in the World Cup with India, England, Australia, New Zealand, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh having qualified for the championship, with South Africa being the latest to get a direct entry.

The last two spots will be filled through a qualifying tournament in June-July in Zimbabwe in which two former champions, West Indies and Sri Lanka, will compete along with the Netherlands, Ireland, Nepal, Oman, Scotland, UAE and host Zimbabwe.

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[Mamoon]

Let me save everyone’s time.

PCB’s “concerns” and “reservations” will not be entertained. They will play India when and where BCCI wants.

At this point, PCB needs to stop embarrassing itself. Just stop talking and do as you are told. It is becoming a joke now.

 

[Rana]

Let me save everyone’s time.

PCB’s “concerns” and “reservations” will not be entertained. They will play India when and where BCCI wants.

At this point, PCB needs to stop embarrassing itself. Just stop talking and do as you are told. It is becoming a joke now.

Agreed and disagreed

BCCI won’t make them play in places that could pose a security threat. They are smart enough to ensure it

 

[CricketZ]

Let me save everyone’s time.

PCB’s “concerns” and “reservations” will not be entertained. They will play India when and where BCCI wants.

At this point, PCB needs to stop embarrassing itself. Just stop talking and do as you are told. It is becoming a joke now.

100% agreed with you.. PCB just embarrassed themselves here.. Funny thing is most of Indian and neutral fans predicted this.. Only hardcore Pakistani fans thougt PCB had a chance against BCCI..

 

[MenInG]

So what happened to the "we dont need Pakistan" lot now?

Watch the ground filled to capacity.

 

[Mamoon]

Agreed and disagreed

BCCI won’t make them play in places that could pose a security threat. They are smart enough to ensure it

My point is that the venue will only change if BCCI wants it to change and has its reasons to do so.

If BCCI doesn’t think that there is a security risk, the venue will not change no matter how much noise PCB makes.

By now, it couldn’t be any clearer that PCB has zero leverage and negotiation power. This is why it is important that it maintains a low profile and not make noise because it only draws attention and leads to humiliation.

If PCB does what BCCI tells it do, it will not create any drama because it will not become news.

 

[MenInG]

100% agreed with you.. PCB just embarrassed themselves here.. Funny thing is most of Indian and neutral fans predicted this.. Only hardcore Pakistani fans thougt PCB had a chance against BCCI..

So in your esteemed opinion and of some others, PCB should just roll over and play dead every time BCCI sneezes?

 

[sam_ahm]

I'm happy that Pak are playing, the WC will be poorer without them for genuine fans like me.

Guess if they indeed get a game in Hyderabad, It'll be great. Will try to watch it.

 

[U$ofA]

So in your esteemed opinion and of some others, PCB should just roll over and play dead every time BCCI sneezes?

That's what they have been doing until very recently. Same goes for all the other boards. They also just roll over. Not to mention ICC.

 

[Rana]

15th October

Bookmark the date! It’s going to be one hell of a clash!

 

[CricketZ]

So in your esteemed opinion and of some others, PCB should just roll over and play dead every time BCCI sneezes?

Whether you like it or not thats what happening

 

[MenInG]

That's what they have been doing until very recently. Same goes for all the other boards. They also just roll over. Not to mention ICC.

No PCB have complained.

They may not have the clout but when you don't even COMPLAIN about tyranny then what are you?

 

[Major]

Funny how Indian posters say they have a policy of not entertaining Pakistan and believe Pakistan India rivarly isnt that high, yet they are schduling the match in the biggest stadium.

Irony is that for the sake of money, a stadium named modi stadium is ok with Pakistan playing there.

These guys will sell their self respect for money No shame whatsoever

 

[Kroll]

15th October

Bookmark the date! It’s going to be one hell of a clash!

No bookmarking needed for me bro, its my birthday! Will Pakistan bear me gifts or make it a horrible day? Knowing the history of these games, likely the latter.

But...come on Babar, bring it home!

 

[nextover666666]

Funny how Indian posters say they have a policy of not entertaining Pakistan and believe Pakistan India rivarly isnt that high, yet they are schduling the match in the biggest stadium.

Irony is that for the sake of money, a stadium named modi stadium is ok with Pakistan playing there.

These guys will sell their self respect for money No shame whatsoever

Brilliant post the reality of India and BCCI

 

[MenInG]

The International Cricket Council has got no written assurance from the Pakistan Cricket Board over its national team's participation in the upcoming 2023 World Cup in India even as impasse regarding the Asia Cup continues.

"India coming to Pakistan and Pakistan going to India doesn't depend either on BCCI or PCB. So, PCB can't give any assurance to ICC about its participation in the global event.

"It is the Pakistan government that will give approval just like in case of BCCI, it can only come to PCB subject to government clearance," an ICC board member privy to developments told PTI on Wednesday.

Pakistan are likely to play India in Ahmedabad with bulk of their matches expected to be held in southern India cities like Bengaluru and Chennai.

Meanwhile, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) is all but set to shift the Asia Cup to Sri Lanka after most of the member nations decided to reject the 'Hybrid Model' idea floated by PCB chairman Najam Sethi.

According to the proposal, Pakistan would have played all its matches in Pakistan with India playing their games in Dubai, Sharjah and Abu Dhabi.

However, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh have expressed their reservations about travelling to and fro between Pakistan and UAE should they qualify for the Super Fours.

An ACC source confirmed that if the tournament is shifted to Sri Lanka, Pakistan will not participate in the event.

"Mr Sethi did try to convince the members that 'Hybrid Mode' can be commercially more viable but I can tell you that it is a logistical nightmare for cricketers of other nations travelling between Pakistan and UAE every second day.

"The ACC would request Pakistan to keep their hosting rights but if they don't agree then the continental championship will be a five-team affair," the ACC source added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-in-odi-world-cup-report-101683737042364.html

 

[dravidthewall]

All the talk about Ramiz Raza looks foolish now

 

[Suleiman]

BCCI won’t listen to reason. Fine.

It is time to serve justice with bat and ball.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Let me save everyone’s time.

PCB’s “concerns” and “reservations” will not be entertained. They will play India when and where BCCI wants.

At this point, PCB needs to stop embarrassing itself. Just stop talking and do as you are told. It is becoming a joke now.

Everyone's time is always saved as people just skip past the usual copy paste efforts. Your like a broken record with anti-pakistan posts.

Then when people are that bored you throw in a pro-pakistan post to get a bit of attention.

 

[Savak]

India will not only listen to Pakistan's concerns but will also address them.

 

[Hitman]

So glad my city is among the venues.

 

[Bewal Express]

Play along and Just before the match, pull out using security as an issue.

 

[Sanzcool]

Funny how Indian posters say they have a policy of not entertaining Pakistan and believe Pakistan India rivarly isnt that high, yet they are schduling the match in the biggest stadium.

Irony is that for the sake of money, a stadium named modi stadium is ok with Pakistan playing there.

These guys will sell their self respect for money No shame whatsoever

Rumored to be held in Bangalore and not Ahmedabad

 

[MenInG]

NEW DELHI, May 11 (Reuters) - With the match schedule still under wraps and the main title contenders preoccupied with test cricket, there is a distinct lack of buzz around the 50-overs World Cup five months out from its expected start in October.

The governing International Cricket Council (ICC) has said the dates and venues for the 13th edition of the showpiece tournament would be out in "due course" and the host Indian board maintains the same.

"The discussion with the ICC is going on and we'll soon announce the dates and venues," a senior official at the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) said.

That would come only after the Indian Premier League (IPL) concludes on May 28, according to media reports in India.

While the lack of information, which is unusual for a major sporting event, might be annoying for fans planning to travel to India it is unlikely to impact too match on the preparations of the eight teams already qualified.

England, who hold both white-ball World Cups, are the dominant force in short-format cricket even if their immediate focus is on reclaiming the Ashes from Australia in the test series beginning next month.

Jofra Archer is a doubt for that series because of a nagging elbow injury and white-ball captain Jos Buttler will be hoping the speedster is back to full fitness before the World Cup.

The reigning champions have also left the door open for Ben Stokes to return to the one-day fold if the all-rounder, the hero of the 2019 final, reconsiders his shock ODI retirement.

England's laboured 2-1 ODI series win in Bangladesh in March was followed by a shock 3-0 submission in the Twenty20 leg of that tour, which will have erased any trace of complacency.

India won the World Cup last time they hosted the tournament in 2011 but Rohit Sharma's side do not have a settled look.

Pace spearhead Jasprit Bumrah has been sidelined since September last year with a back injury and is missing the IPL as well as next month's World Test Championship (WTC) final against Australia.

Stumper-batsman Rishabh Pant is likely to miss the World Cup as he continues to recover from multiple injuries sustained in a horrific car crash last December.

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Five-time champions Australia are also preoccupied with the WTC final at the Oval, which will be followed quickly by the Ashes.

Pat Cummins and his men toured India earlier this year, losing the test series but prevailing in the one-dayers.

With 14 Australian cricketers, including several frontline players, involved in the IPL, at least the conditions will look familiar when they return for the World Cup.

Among the other hopefuls, New Zealand, who lost the 2019 final on boundary count, are almost certain to be without Kane Williamson after the skipper suffered a serious knee injury in the ongoing IPL.

Williamson's absence would make it the first ODI World Cup where not a single team returns with the same captain as they had in the previous edition.

While their best batsman may still travel as a team mentor, Tom Latham is likely to lead New Zealand ahead of test skipper Tim Southee.

"That's something that still needs to be worked out," coach Gary Stead said on Tuesday.

"Tim's captain in the test team as well, but Tom's had a lot of white-ball experience for us in the past."

Former champions Pakistan have grounds for optimism after their top order and pace attack fired them to a 4-1 series victory over a weakened New Zealand earlier this month.

Pakistan briefly held the number one ODI ranking during the series and skipper Babar Azam currently leads the batting rankings with team mates Fakhar Zaman and Imam-ul-Haq also in the top four.

"Winning the series is great and so is achieving number one ranking that has set us in a good position for the World Cup," Babar said.

South Africa claimed the last direct qualification spot but former champions West Indies and Sri Lanka will compete with eight other teams for the remaining two slots for the tournament in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Apparently Sethi has demanded that Pakistan will play all their matches at a neutral venue and won't travel to India.

The ball is in BCCI'S court.

Either they handover a leverage to PCB to be used forever in future or they call their bluff.

 

[Saj]

Najam Sethi "Two things that came out of the meeting were, one if India doesn't play in Pakistan, then a neutral venue should be the way. And then a hybrid model can be embraced so that a few matches can take place in Pakistan and India's matches will be at a neutral venue because we are hosts and it's our right to play in Pakistan as well. And there are no security issues.

"And if that doesn't happen, I don't think we can play Asia Cup.

"Then the situation is, If India doesn't play in Pakistan, we will also not play in India. That's our view and our country's view of the whole situation"

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Play along and Just before the match, pull out using security as an issue.

I’d actually do that for the Asia Cup.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Play along and Just before the match, pull out using security as an issue.

And then get sued by all and sundry.

 

[Savak]

Apparently Sethi has demanded that Pakistan will play all their matches at a neutral venue and won't travel to India.

The ball is in BCCI'S court.

Either they handover a leverage to PCB to be used forever in future or they call their bluff.

The World Cup is an ICC event. The ICC should make the call on providing the Hybrid option for the Pakistani team. It is none of BCCI's business to be honest.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The World Cup is an ICC event. The ICC should make the call on providing the Hybrid option for the Pakistani team. It is none of BCCI's business to be honest.

ICC should take a call regarding the impact if Pakistan misses a ICC event.


The ICC should also take a call about what will happen if India refuses to play a ICC event if matches are shifted out of India. What will be the impact on ICC?

 

[Savak]

ICC should take a call regarding the impact if Pakistan misses a ICC event.


The ICC should also take a call about what will happen if India refuses to play a ICC event if matches are shifted out of India. What will be the impact on ICC?

Why would India refuse to play an ICC event violating their participation agreement? How can India force Pakistan to play in India when the Pakistani government will not give permission to the team to play in India? Hybrid model is the only solution.

 

[zn426]

And then get sued by all and sundry.

On what grounds? NZ was not sued by PCB after the security pull out last year. BCCI has never been sued for the same reason.

Prior precedent will ensure PCB wins any lawsuit if GOP refuses tour on security issues.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why would India refuse to play an ICC event violating their participation agreement? How can India force Pakistan to play in India when the Pakistani government will not give permission to the team to play in India? Hybrid model is the only solution.

If pakistan can refuse to play, why can't India?

If pakistan govt isn't giving permission, world cup should go ahead without Pakistan.

Pakistan can present any solution, hybrid, no breed, double breed, other boards should accept it. No?

Did other boards accept PCB's solution for Asia cup? What makes you think other boards will vote for PCB and against BCCI in the ICC?

 

[cricketjoshila]

On what grounds? NZ was not sued by PCB after the security pull out last year. BCCI has never been sued for the same reason.

Prior precedent will ensure PCB wins any lawsuit if GOP refuses tour on security issues.

Which ICC tournament did BCCI skip?

 

[Savak]

If pakistan can refuse to play, why can't India?

If pakistan govt isn't giving permission, world cup should go ahead without Pakistan.

Pakistan can present any solution, hybrid, no breed, double breed, other boards should accept it. No?

Did other boards accept PCB's solution for Asia cup? What makes you think other boards will vote for PCB and against BCCI in the ICC?

Pakistan government is going to disallow permission to the PCB for sending their team to India but will allow them to play in the ODI WC. India has no right to ask the ICC to kick Pakistan out of the WC just because they don't have govt permission to play in India. ICC will have to choice but to allow a Hybrid Model for Pakistan where Pakistan's ODI WC games will be played outside India on a neutral venue. India as a member of the ICC has no choice but to accept ICC's directives.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan government is going to disallow permission to the PCB for sending their team to India but will allow them to play in the ODI WC. India has no right to ask the ICC to kick Pakistan out of the WC just because they don't have govt permission to play in India. ICC will have to choice but to allow a Hybrid Model for Pakistan where Pakistan's ODI WC games will be played outside India on a neutral venue. India as a member of the ICC has no choice but to accept ICC's directives.

Well ICC board will vote and decide what to do. No? Or will PCB and Pakistan government decide it for ICC.

India is the host and every team has to play in India. Australia and WI refused to go to SL in 1996 and were docked points. England also refused to go to Zimbabwe in 2003, were docked points.

So the ICC board will have to decide. Just like ACC board.

 

[Savak]

Well ICC board will vote and decide what to do. No? Or will PCB and Pakistan government decide it for ICC.

India is the host and every team has to play in India. Australia and WI refused to go to SL in 1996 and were docked points. England also refused to go to Zimbabwe in 2003, were docked points.

So the ICC board will have to decide. Just like ACC board.

The successful execution of the Hybrid Model in the Asia Cup will pave the way for the Hybrid Model in the WC.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The successful execution of the Hybrid Model in the Asia Cup will pave the way for the Hybrid Model in the WC.

What hybrid? Has ACC or ICC agreed to this?

 

[CricVet]

I always thought of winning the WC as an objective being in the WC; regardless whether we beat Ind or not. Now, I don’t care if we win the cup. We should just thrash Indians in front of Sanghi goons. Our best bet of winning the WC is meeting Ind in the Final if we somehow manage to get thru. If we can beat them twice, that will be amazing, and Babar will become a brand.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

So pak are traveling to India ?

 

[light]

Play along and Just before the match, pull out using security as an issue.

And what do you accomplish doing that? I think you guys don't realize this, this will open up the door for other teams doing it to pak aswell. PCB's reputation is already pretty low these days, give it a rest with these kind on nonsense comments.

 

[sam_ahm]

It is looking very likely that Pakistan will skip the World Cup. It won't be a good decision but I think Sethi is under pressure to not look like the one backing off.

Asia Cup may not happen at all.

Even if they skip the WC, it doesn't mean it guarantees CT will be held in Pakistan.

What happens to Pak's participation in 2026 T20 WC, 2028 CT and 2031 WC, all of which will be held in India remains to be seen but that is long way away.

 

[proud_pakistani]

PCB should just be quiet and focus on the cricket. This is not even helpful for the cricketers. Its like when students are not sure an exam will happen due to unprecedented holidays. It needs to be confirmed to them when and where they will play and rather than get into this bickering answer them on the field.

 

[RajBan]

One question out of curiosity. Why does BCCI and PCB need government clearance to travel when they are private sports bodies? These are not Olympic associations which are owned and funded by government. Does anybody know?

 

[Babeikh]

I can't understand the world cup is less than 5 months away and BCCI is still faffing around eating pakoras and hasn't announced schedule yet.

 

[Hitman]

I can't understand the world cup is less than 5 months away and BCCI is still faffing around eating pakoras and hasn't announced schedule yet.

They'll announce it after the IPL is over.

 

[MenInG]

They'll announce it after the IPL is over.

And that is connected to the World Cup because?

 

[MenInG]

Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Najam Sethi said on Thursday that India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the Asia Cup would impact the forthcoming ICC events in the region. Agreeing to move India’s games out of Pakistan by floating a new hybrid format of hosting for the Asia Cup, Sethi sees this as a precedent for the 50-over World Cup in India later this year and the 2025 Champions Trophy in Pakistan.

“If India now wants to have a neutral venue and accepts the hybrid model, then we’ll use the same hybrid model in the World Cup. Pakistan can play its World Cup matches in Dhaka or any other venue to which India agrees, and similarly in the Champions Trophy. So all the other countries can come and play in Pakistan but India can play at a neutral venue. So this is a model that goes forward and resolves this political logjam,” he told The Indian Express.

Sethi also reacted to reports that suggested that the BCCI was planning to slot the India-Pakistan World Cup game at the Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmedabad. “When I heard that the Pakistan match was to be in Ahmedabad, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. I mean if you’d said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense,” he said.

“I don’t want to go into the politics of it but certainly there seems to be a political angle to this because if there’s one city where we might have security issues, it’s Ahmedabad. And therefore, I think the less said about that, the better. It gave the impression that this was a red herring that was thrown in our way to tell us, ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out. You know who rules Ahmedabad.’”

Giving details about the recent Asian Cricket Council meeting in Bahrain over the hosting of the Asia Cup in October, Sethi said that no decision has been taken so far and the members’ reaction to the hybrid model is awaited, though he went on to add that if ACC insists on a one-host model, Pakistan would withdraw.

“No decision has yet been taken about whether it will be the UAE or Sri Lanka, or it could be a third venue. We don’t know. The first question is, is the hybrid model that we’ve proposed acceptable? Are we going to play by those rules? If the ACC insists that all games are to be held at one venue, we shall not play the Asia Cup,” he said.

Sethi also added that he got along well with BCCI secretary Jay Shah, with whom he has had long conversations about India-Pakistan cricket. “I get along famously with Jay Shah, we have no real issues, we’ve had long sessions. And we are very friendly. The only problem is that he never gives me a reason for not playing in Pakistan. He just smiles and says, ‘Well, you know how the situation is, so let’s not discuss this. Let’s find other solutions.’ And then we find other solutions and this is a solution I have found – the hybrid model – which I know is a compromise,” he says.

The journalist-turned-cricket administrator said that the BCCI needs to convince the Indian government for the team to travel to Pakistan. “We at PCB tend to go to our government and persuade them to allow us to go to India. We want to play in India. But then the government gives us this political argument that looks like it needs to be reciprocal. Otherwise, you know, we’ll be criticised roundly by our critics in Pakistan. Similarly, I think the BCCI needs to stand up and go and tell the government that ‘hey, please don’t bring politics into it. This is just a game. Allow us to go to Pakistan’.”

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...one-way-of-saying-dont-come-to-india-8604528/

 

[MenInG]

While there has been an ongoing tussle between India and Pakistan over Asia Cup with India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the continental event scheduled to be held later this year, Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Najam Sethi has come up with a bizarre claim on why he thinks BCCI is reluctant to send its team to Pakistan.

Sethi said he has a suspicion that India is afraid to lose to Pakistan in Pakistan and even in India.

“The Indian bridge, volleyball and kabaddi teams have visited Pakistan. So, what’s the problem with the Indian cricket team coming to Pakistan? My suspicion is that India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in India and India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in Pakistan,” Sethi told the Indian Express

In response to reports suggesting that the India vs Pakistan World Cup match could be held in Ahmedabad, Sethi expressed his views on the matter, highlighting potential concerns and a perceived political angle surrounding the venue selection.

Sethi, addressing the issue, stated, “When I heard this statement, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. If you had said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense." While refraining from delving into the politics behind it, he emphasized that Ahmedabad, as a city, could pose security challenges for the Pakistani team.

The PCB chairman refrained from going into further details but hinted at a political motive behind the decision, stating, “The less said about that, the better. It certainly gave the impression that this is a red herring being thrown in our way to tell us – ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out.’ You know, who rules Ahmedabad!"

The remarks by Sethi shed light on the concerns raised by the PCB regarding the potential venue for the highly anticipated World Cup clash. The possibility of playing in Ahmedabad, according to Sethi, raises questions about the security arrangements and adds a political dimension to the already charged atmosphere surrounding the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry.

Amidst escalating tensions between the two boards, the PCB had earlier put forth a hybrid model as a potential solution for hosting the Asia Cup. This proposal comes in response to the BCCI’s insistence on organizing the tournament at a neutral venue. Speculation is also rife about the BCCI considering a five-nation tournament as an alternative to the Asia Cup.

Adding to the friction, the PCB has previously threatened to boycott the ODI World Cup scheduled to be held in India later this year if the BCCI refuses to play in Pakistan. Najam Sethi also went a step further by advocating for the adoption of the hybrid model during the World Cup as well.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-bizarre-bogus-claims-statement-7788853.html

 

[Mesozoic]

And that is connected to the World Cup because?

They want all the eyeballs to be on IPL right now. Which is beyond pathetic, as it's the fans who will end up on the losing side. Cricket is already a niche sport in most non asian teams and BCCI are reducing the overseas attendances even more for the world cup.

 

[Shafi]

I always thought of winning the WC as an objective being in the WC; regardless whether we beat Ind or not. Now, I don’t care if we win the cup. We should just thrash Indians in front of Sanghi goons. Our best bet of winning the WC is meeting Ind in the Final if we somehow manage to get thru. If we can beat them twice, that will be amazing, and Babar will become a brand.

May be India will ask Pakistan very bad against them. Anything possible when money involves.

 

[Babeikh]

They want all the eyeballs to be on IPL right now. Which is beyond pathetic, as it's the fans who will end up on the losing side. Cricket is already a niche sport in most non asian teams and BCCI are reducing the overseas attendances even more for the world cup.

Is IPL market so fragile that it cannot handle having world cup fixtures announced until it is finished?

 

[CricVet]

May be India will ask Pakistan very bad against them. Anything possible when money involves.

They can make such offers to any board. I am also very sure that they have in the past to ACB as well. Anyway, this is not proven so let's focus on the reality. We did beat them in the CT final without getting sold. We can do this again at their home grounds. Bata daingay dobara ghuss kay marna kya hota hay. Yaad dilana zaroori hay.

 

[MenInG]

Sethi pulling no punches it seems but to what end?

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“When I heard that the Pakistan match was to be in Ahmedabad, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. I mean if you’d said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense,” he said. “I don’t want to go into the politics of it but certainly there seems to be a political angle to this because if there’s one city where we might have security issues, it’s Ahmedabad. And therefore, I think the less said about that, the better. It gave the impression that this was a red herring that was thrown in our way to tell us, ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out. You know who rules Ahmedabad.’”

 

[Kroll]

We all the history of Ahmedabad but Sethi shouldn't be stoking things.

 

[Third Man]

We all the history of Ahmedabad but Sethi shouldn't be stoking things.

Yeah. A bit too much from him. One could reasonably argue that Ahmadabad was chosen because it has biggest stadium in the world. Makes sense.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sethi is making sure that BCCI doesn't compromise for any solution.

Commenting on Ahmedabad.

Saying India is afraid to lose etc.

This may not go down well with the BCCI.

This is being stupid

 

[Babeikh]

Sethi is making sure that BCCI doesn't compromise for any solution.

Commenting on Ahmedabad.

Saying India is afraid to lose etc.

This may not go down well with the BCCI.

This is being stupid

He is a circus chairman, not PCB chairman. What do you expect?

 

[Devadwal]

While there has been an ongoing tussle between India and Pakistan over Asia Cup with India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the continental event scheduled to be held later this year, Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Najam Sethi has come up with a bizarre claim on why he thinks BCCI is reluctant to send its team to Pakistan.

Sethi said he has a suspicion that India is afraid to lose to Pakistan in Pakistan and even in India.

“The Indian bridge, volleyball and kabaddi teams have visited Pakistan. So, what’s the problem with the Indian cricket team coming to Pakistan? My suspicion is that India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in India and India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in Pakistan,” Sethi told the Indian Express

In response to reports suggesting that the India vs Pakistan World Cup match could be held in Ahmedabad, Sethi expressed his views on the matter, highlighting potential concerns and a perceived political angle surrounding the venue selection.

Sethi, addressing the issue, stated, “When I heard this statement, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. If you had said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense." While refraining from delving into the politics behind it, he emphasized that Ahmedabad, as a city, could pose security challenges for the Pakistani team.

The PCB chairman refrained from going into further details but hinted at a political motive behind the decision, stating, “The less said about that, the better. It certainly gave the impression that this is a red herring being thrown in our way to tell us – ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out.’ You know, who rules Ahmedabad!"

The remarks by Sethi shed light on the concerns raised by the PCB regarding the potential venue for the highly anticipated World Cup clash. The possibility of playing in Ahmedabad, according to Sethi, raises questions about the security arrangements and adds a political dimension to the already charged atmosphere surrounding the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry.

Amidst escalating tensions between the two boards, the PCB had earlier put forth a hybrid model as a potential solution for hosting the Asia Cup. This proposal comes in response to the BCCI’s insistence on organizing the tournament at a neutral venue. Speculation is also rife about the BCCI considering a five-nation tournament as an alternative to the Asia Cup.

Adding to the friction, the PCB has previously threatened to boycott the ODI World Cup scheduled to be held in India later this year if the BCCI refuses to play in Pakistan. Najam Sethi also went a step further by advocating for the adoption of the hybrid model during the World Cup as well.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-bizarre-bogus-claims-statement-7788853.html

What if Pakistan qualify for final as most likely final will be played at Ahmedabad

 

[Ami]

Obviously that is not true.
Its the Indian Govt that is the issue here, not BCCI.

 

[JattMaula]

Sethi batting out of his crease. Liable to get stumped.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

While there has been an ongoing tussle between India and Pakistan over Asia Cup with India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the continental event scheduled to be held later this year, Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Najam Sethi has come up with a bizarre claim on why he thinks BCCI is reluctant to send its team to Pakistan.

Sethi said he has a suspicion that India is afraid to lose to Pakistan in Pakistan and even in India.

“The Indian bridge, volleyball and kabaddi teams have visited Pakistan. So, what’s the problem with the Indian cricket team coming to Pakistan? My suspicion is that India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in India and India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in Pakistan,” Sethi told the Indian Express

In response to reports suggesting that the India vs Pakistan World Cup match could be held in Ahmedabad, Sethi expressed his views on the matter, highlighting potential concerns and a perceived political angle surrounding the venue selection.

Sethi, addressing the issue, stated, “When I heard this statement, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. If you had said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense." While refraining from delving into the politics behind it, he emphasized that Ahmedabad, as a city, could pose security challenges for the Pakistani team.

The PCB chairman refrained from going into further details but hinted at a political motive behind the decision, stating, “The less said about that, the better. It certainly gave the impression that this is a red herring being thrown in our way to tell us – ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out.’ You know, who rules Ahmedabad!"

The remarks by Sethi shed light on the concerns raised by the PCB regarding the potential venue for the highly anticipated World Cup clash. The possibility of playing in Ahmedabad, according to Sethi, raises questions about the security arrangements and adds a political dimension to the already charged atmosphere surrounding the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry.

Amidst escalating tensions between the two boards, the PCB had earlier put forth a hybrid model as a potential solution for hosting the Asia Cup. This proposal comes in response to the BCCI’s insistence on organizing the tournament at a neutral venue. Speculation is also rife about the BCCI considering a five-nation tournament as an alternative to the Asia Cup.

Adding to the friction, the PCB has previously threatened to boycott the ODI World Cup scheduled to be held in India later this year if the BCCI refuses to play in Pakistan. Najam Sethi also went a step further by advocating for the adoption of the hybrid model during the World Cup as well.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-bizarre-bogus-claims-statement-7788853.html

Lol. Is Sethi now trying to stop Kabbadi and Volleyball between the two.

 

[Fenrir]

Pakistan should not take part in WC.It is not safe for Pakistan to play in India.Cricket is just a game.If Pakistan boycotts the WC it is not the end of the world.

 

[moghul]

Sethi is making sure that BCCI doesn't compromise for any solution.

Commenting on Ahmedabad.

Saying India is afraid to lose etc.

This may not go down well with the BCCI.

This is being stupid

Whatever, I started to like Sethi. Enough is enough . If BCCI is hurting us big time , lets see whatever little we can do hurt them.

 

[moghul]

Pakistan should not take part in WC.It is not safe for Pakistan to play in India.Cricket is just a game.If Pakistan boycotts the WC it is not the end of the world.

Absolutely.

 

[Shafi]

If PCB has any self pride they should pull out of the 2023 World Cup. India will not participate 2025 Champion trophy and it will be shifted to either India or UAE. All the boards are in BCCI's pocket.

 

[Shafi]

My point is that the venue will only change if BCCI wants it to change and has its reasons to do so.

If BCCI doesn’t think that there is a security risk, the venue will not change no matter how much noise PCB makes.

By now, it couldn’t be any clearer that PCB has zero leverage and negotiation power. This is why it is important that it maintains a low profile and not make noise because it only draws attention and leads to humiliation.

If PCB does what BCCI tells it do, it will not create any drama because it will not become news.

Once you submit yourself then you will be their permanent slave. May be BCCI will ask PCB chairman to lick their shoes in order to play in World Cup. Its just a game and no one has right to boss others whether they are big boards.

 

[Shafi]

Agreed and disagreed

BCCI won’t make them play in places that could pose a security threat. They are smart enough to ensure it

Money talks!!! Pitch can be damaged 3-4 days earlier the match stillwe will be forced to play. Slaves have no right. Cricket is not as it was used to be. Players are bought mostly by IPL or PSL (For Pakistan players).

 

[MenInG]

The men’s Cricket World Cup is less than five months away and could yet see its schedule plunge into chaos amid a continuing impasse involving Pakistan, India and the Asia Cup.

The six-team Asia Cup is scheduled for September and has become a point of principle for the hosts, Pakistan, after India – staging the 50-over men’s World Cup starting in October – indicated they cannot send their national team to the country. In response, the Pakistan Cricket Board has proposed a “hybrid model” in which India’s Asia Cup matches – including up to three blockbuster games against Pakistan – and the second half of the tournament are held in the United Arab Emirates.

Najam Sethi, chair of the PCB, says this offer needs to be accepted by the Board of Control for Cricket in India or the Asia Cup will be called off. Equally, his government may insist on the same “hybrid” arrangements for Pakistan during India’s tournament.

If so Pakistan would have to play all nine World Cup group matches and any knockout appearances in the UAE, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka, forcing the International Cricket Council to rip up a fixture list that – incredibly for a global tournament so close to its proposed start date – is still to be published.

“I am hoping it won’t be rejected or the consequences won’t be good for all of us,” Sethi told the Observer regarding the hybrid model for the Asia Cup. “It’s not a threat – it’s a solution. By logic all matches should be played in Pakistan. India have said they cannot play in Pakistan. They have given no reasons. They can’t cite security – we have had England, Australia and New Zealand all tour in the last 18 months.

“India is creating the problem and compelling us to take a position we do not want to take. But there is no option. If India refuses to play in Pakistan then my government is going to tell me: ‘You can’t play in India.’ Then what do I do?”

Tense political relations between the two countries have led to a pause in bilateral cricket in recent times, with Pakistan’s brief white-ball tour of India in 2012-13 their last such encounter. They have continued to meet in global tournaments, however, with television audiences estimated to range between 300 million and 500 million viewers.

As such, they represent a huge source of revenue for the ICC and the world game, central to the new £2.5bn broadcast deal that runs from 2024 to 2027. Moving their World Cup match out of India would cause ructions in the country but Pakistan, also hosting the 2025 ICC Champions Trophy, do not want to lose face.

Sethi said: “My government could say to me: ‘The security situation in India vis-a-vis Pakistanis is not good, you can’t go there.’ So my solution is to apply the hybrid model there, too – it could be Bangladesh next door or Sri Lanka. Or it could be in the UAE. Then comes the Champions Trophy. Again [India] will refuse. So this hybrid model should work again. This is a solution for three important tournaments. Pakistan and India matches make up 80% of Asia Cup revenues. If we don’t play each other in the Asia Cup, it will be ruinous. Similarly [for] the World Cup.”

Sethi said the compromise solution was put to the Asian Cricket Council last Tuesday with the body, chaired by Jay Shah, the secretary of the Board for Cricket Control in India, now considering its response. A 50-over tournament for this edition, having been a Twenty20 format last year, the Asia Cup also features Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and qualifiers Nepal.

When contacted by the Observer, the ICC insisted the delay in issuing the World Cup dates was not due to the India versus Pakistan issue and an announcement is expected after the conclusion of the current Indian Premier League.

Reports out of India have suggested it begins on 5 October with a repeat of the 2019 final – champions England versus New Zealand – and concludes on 19 November. The BCCI has also been contacted for comment.

Meanwhile, Pakistan have appointed the former New Zealand all-rounder Grant Bradburn as the head coach of their men’s team on a two-year deal after a successful spell as consultant.

Guardian

 

[CricVet]

We are not RSA of the past. We cannot afford to get isolated under unpatriotic leadership of the country. I hope we play the WC. We make ourselves strong first before dictating terms. Once we are organically strong under the right leadership, do what brings pride home. I hope we play WC and give nation something to cheer.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

While there has been an ongoing tussle between India and Pakistan over Asia Cup with India’s refusal to travel to Pakistan for the continental event scheduled to be held later this year, Pakistan Cricket Board Chairman Najam Sethi has come up with a bizarre claim on why he thinks BCCI is reluctant to send its team to Pakistan.

Sethi said he has a suspicion that India is afraid to lose to Pakistan in Pakistan and even in India.

“The Indian bridge, volleyball and kabaddi teams have visited Pakistan. So, what’s the problem with the Indian cricket team coming to Pakistan? My suspicion is that India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in India and India is afraid of losing to Pakistan in Pakistan,” Sethi told the Indian Express

In response to reports suggesting that the India vs Pakistan World Cup match could be held in Ahmedabad, Sethi expressed his views on the matter, highlighting potential concerns and a perceived political angle surrounding the venue selection.

Sethi, addressing the issue, stated, “When I heard this statement, I smiled and said to myself – ‘this is one way to make sure we don’t come to India’. If you had said Chennai or Kolkata, it might have made sense." While refraining from delving into the politics behind it, he emphasized that Ahmedabad, as a city, could pose security challenges for the Pakistani team.

The PCB chairman refrained from going into further details but hinted at a political motive behind the decision, stating, “The less said about that, the better. It certainly gave the impression that this is a red herring being thrown in our way to tell us – ‘hey, we are going to play you in Ahmedabad and you watch out.’ You know, who rules Ahmedabad!"

The remarks by Sethi shed light on the concerns raised by the PCB regarding the potential venue for the highly anticipated World Cup clash. The possibility of playing in Ahmedabad, according to Sethi, raises questions about the security arrangements and adds a political dimension to the already charged atmosphere surrounding the India-Pakistan cricket rivalry.

Amidst escalating tensions between the two boards, the PCB had earlier put forth a hybrid model as a potential solution for hosting the Asia Cup. This proposal comes in response to the BCCI’s insistence on organizing the tournament at a neutral venue. Speculation is also rife about the BCCI considering a five-nation tournament as an alternative to the Asia Cup.

Adding to the friction, the PCB has previously threatened to boycott the ODI World Cup scheduled to be held in India later this year if the BCCI refuses to play in Pakistan. Najam Sethi also went a step further by advocating for the adoption of the hybrid model during the World Cup as well.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-bizarre-bogus-claims-statement-7788853.html

He can say what he wants to keep oiling those who keep him in power and for the consumption of the local masses....but fact is IT WAS NEVER ABOUT LOOSING.
End of the day, as a crick fan am happy to see pak play in my home city, welcome....
I also wish BCCI became more flexible and did some hybrid arrangement to play pak in the Asia cup.
forget the emotions, facts speak louder if you are giving reasons, at least base it on facts.

 

[RajBan]

He can say what he wants to keep oiling those who keep him in power and for the consumption of the local masses....but fact is IT WAS NEVER ABOUT LOOSING.
End of the day, as a crick fan am happy to see pak play in my home city, welcome....
I also wish BCCI became more flexible and did some hybrid arrangement to play pak in the Asia cup.
forget the emotions, facts speak louder if you are giving reasons, at least base it on facts.

What is the reason for BCCI not sending team ?

 

[Kroll]

Doesn't make any sense for Pakistan not to go the WC. It's an ICC event that has gone to India to host it. Big difference between that and an Asia Cup.

I don't think Pakistan will not go but its upto them to bring the trophy home.

 

[CadPakFan]

Sethi is making sure that BCCI doesn't compromise for any solution.

Commenting on Ahmedabad.

Saying India is afraid to lose etc.

This may not go down well with the BCCI.

This is being stupid

Sorry, I'm lost. What was he referring to about Ahmedabad?

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Chances of Pakistan winning the world cup or match against india are slim.

That's why it's better Pakistan doesn't go to India for world cup if they don't come to Pakistan. At least it'll save our pride. Being Pakistani I don't want my team to travel india.

 

[Shafi]

Chances of Pakistan winning the world cup or match against india are slim.

That's why it's better Pakistan doesn't go to India for world cup if they don't come to Pakistan. At least it'll save our pride. Being Pakistani I don't want my team to travel india.

Exactly!!! People are too hopeful that we will win this cup. Babar as usual will choke in crucial matches. We should have won at least 1 of the World Cup in last 2 years. Instead of bending to BCCI, PCB should withdraw themselves. ICC will loose some money and sponsors but it will still go ahead. But PCB will stand on its feet for future. Cricket is not same as it was used to. Its only India and its IPL.

 

[Shafi]

Doesn't make any sense for Pakistan not to go the WC. It's an ICC event that has gone to India to host it. Big difference between that and an Asia Cup.

I don't think Pakistan will not go but its upto them to bring the trophy home.

India will not go to Pakistan in CT 2025 which is also ICC event.

 

[Kroll]

India will not go to Pakistan in CT 2025 which is also ICC event.

That's up to India, I don't really care what they do.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

That's up to India, I don't really care what they do.

This is the exact attitude which has made pcb to be bullied all these years, stand up for yourself if India doesn't travel then give it back. This can't go on...

 

[sam_ahm]

India will not go to Pakistan in CT 2025 which is also ICC event.

In that case if CT is pulled out of Pakistan, then the PCB can make a strong case for themselves about not going to India for 2026 T20 WC. As both are ICC events and there are plenty of teams involved, it will be very difficult for India to say we won't travel if all other teams are willing to travel. And if India says Govt is not giving permission then Pak can use the same card for 2026.

They can't do that for an ACC tournament against an ICC tournament. Asia cup has often been held outside of India and Pakistan due to various reasons in the past.