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44-year-old showing to others how to bat under pressure! Misbah-ul-Haq is back!

ISB might be regretting it now. Look at the way they have batted :)))
 
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Some people here are seriously delusional.

Misbah was one of the worst ODI batsmen to play for Pak. His favorite Shafiq takes first prize though.

But here's Misbah in the Mohali semi-final:

End of over 32, required run rate 6.66:

Misbah - 8 runs (19 balls)

Umar Akmal: 28 (22)


end of over 34, RRR 7.31

Misbah: 9 (25)
Razzaq: 1 (4)


end of over 39, RRR 8.45

Misbah: 17 (42)
Afridi: 12(8)

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Now, very very slowly Misbah increased his s/r through the innings. Still was a pathetic effort. Eg., at 43 overs he was striking at 50 when the required run rate required a s/r of more than 150. He was NEVER trying to win the match.

And yet we have worshippers here calling him a legend. Compare that to Inzi's 1992 knock of 60 off 37 balls which is simply awesome even 27 years later.

Misbah screwed us over massively in that semi-final. Shameful batting. He got bashed for it, but a lot of us Pakistanis apparently have very short memories. Let's also not forget that Pakistan under Misbah led to us being ranked 8 in ODIs.
 
By the way, if you want to know what Misbah ended up with in the match, he was out for 56 at a s/r of 73.68 in the 50th over.

That is horrendous.

Hey, but at least he got a 50 right? Top scorer in the side. Great job, Misbah! Without that knock we would have lost so much worse.
 
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Major said:
Thank God ISLU lost today :))
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You doing banghra over 1 game. Let the season play out before doing banghra.

Furthermore we won the tournament last year without Misbah doing anything. I think we will be fine without him.

Zalmi look the worst team in the tournament.
 
Hasan123 said:
You doing banghra over 1 game. Let the season play out before doing banghra.

Furthermore we won the tournament last year without Misbah doing anything. I think we will be fine without him.

Zalmi look the worst team in the tournament.
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na, ISLU won because of Misbah last season. The guy made this team, and hopefully its downfall has just started.

THe traitors should go down as no.6 this season hopefully
 
Major said:
na, ISLU won because of Misbah last season. The guy made this team, and hopefully its downfall has just started.

THe traitors should go down as no.6 this season hopefully
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After he leaves Zalmi, who will you want to lose more? United or Zalmi?
 
Abdullah719 said:
After he leaves Zalmi, who will you want to lose more? United or Zalmi?
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depends where he mentors then.

Though i wouldn't want Zalmi to lose nor would i care about them. They took advantage of the opportunity that was available to them

ISLU betrayed him simple as that. The guy had the ability to play, but ISLU didn't add him. OK fair enough, but look at his replacement, Ian Bell and Sami as captain.

Thing is, Misbah made the ISLU team, every pick was a hand pick by him. Not taht guy cheema or Deeno or Waqar.

THing is, Zalmi outplayed IU here. MIsbah as a mentor is really beneficial for any Franchise. I would agree that Zalmi took this at the risk of losing a season, but in return they could keep MIsbah as a future mentor.

ISLU didn't bother to take that risk, and that just shows there stupidity over there.

I believe the only reason why Zalmi bought in Misbah was because they want him to be a mentor in future and they new Misbah would had never left his club, thus they threw in the offer of player asell.

If ISLU had made SHadab as captain, that it would had been alright. But these guys remove Misbah and replace him with whom?

Shadab has the brain, plus the emerging pick of Musa Khan and Nasir Nawaz was most probably by Shadab. I can say that with guarantee.
 
Misbah shouldn't even be playing. Only guys who can help Pakistan Cricket in future, should get a chance with amalgam of current national players, foreign players & emerging players from domestic circuit.
 
Major said:
na, ISLU won because of Misbah last season. The guy made this team, and hopefully its downfall has just started.

THe traitors should go down as no.6 this season hopefully
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How did they win because of him? Ronchi was the top run scorer and Faheem took wickets.

Number 6 is where you will be.
 
Only in Misbah land is blocking 6 deliveries in an over, allowing the bowlers to settle and ease in on a comfortable line length called batting under pressure.
 
Misbah is one of the best things to happen to Pakistan .See where our test team is going now a days ?Odi team is also bang average , so Misbah was not a cause of all evils .IU has gone from my most favourite team to least favourite one .Hopefully Islamabad finishes at the bottom of table this year.
 
Godhelpma said:
Misbah is one of the best things to happen to Pakistan .See where our test team is going now a days ?Odi team is also bang average , so Misbah was not a cause of all evils .IU has gone from my most favourite team to least favourite one .Hopefully Islamabad finishes at the bottom of table this year.
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Yaar, please don't mix up formats to advance your agenda.

Kia best kaam kiya tha for the limited overs side? Left it at its worst ranking ever in the history of Pak cricket? Got uninterrupted captaincy and free hand but yet left the team full of TTFS? He was the worst thing to happen to Pakistan limited overs cricket. Truly sucked the life out of our team!
 
Will the legend produce another trademark innings to see his side through in this low scoring thriller?
 
The GOAT showing his class once again. Only idiots could hate on such a wonderful man.
 
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this thread should be titled:

Veteran batsmen of 800+ innings (300+ International Innings), former Pakistan captain showing younger and inexperienced players how its done
 
coy0607 said:
this thread should be titled:

Veteran batsmen of 800+ innings (300+ International Innings), former Pakistan captain showing younger and inexperienced players how its done
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Calm down... he is 45(45) and has successfully managed to raise asking rate to 10 rpo at the moment. It remains to be seen if he can even pull this off after dead batting ball after ball.
 
This is called expereince. there was nothing in the pitch. This guy stood there and got us through.



and those 3 runs off that ball :)))

THat is called fitness.

He got up and ran for his life theer
 
After MS Dhoni Misbah is another guy who can take care of any crisis situation.

Kudo's to Misbah for still being able to do this. If he had gone early Zalmi would have been 80 odd all out. For sure the Man of the match.
 
Oh man, bought bck good old memories. Loved it. Every bit off it.

I knew this game wasnt over until MIsbah was gone, he is an expert in such situations. Good decision by Zalmi to play him today. they were 5 down.

45 year old, i bet even youngsters cant make that tripple that he ran
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Commentators state that 44 year-old Misbah-ul-Haq has become the oldest batsman ever to score a half-century in a T20 match <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL4?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LQvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LQvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/wTzGsU3hul">pic.twitter.com/wTzGsU3hul</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1102951943612366849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Misbah-ul-Haq:<br><br>Age 44<br>Walks in to bat with the score 8/2<br>Team is then 12/4<br>Team then moves to 20/5<br>100 run partnership with Darren Sammy<br>Scores 59 not out & Peshawar Zalmi win with 1 ball to spare<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL4?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL4</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LQvPZ?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LQvPZ</a> <a href="https://t.co/KamsONxeaS">pic.twitter.com/KamsONxeaS</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1102953325325176835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Never doubted you Misbah. He will always have my genuine respect which is reserved for very few people :)

What a legend!
 
If I was Inzi i'd force him to take back his retirement. We need him in the World Cup. This PSL has showed us that our younger batsmen can't bat to save their own lives.
 
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Others can learn a lot from him. It's not all about slogging in T20. You need to bat according to the situation.
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No thank you don't want our youngsters to be playing at 100 strike rate. Misbah played well but they would have lost if it wasn't for Sammy, as we clearly saw misbah couldn't hit.
 
Lol now PZ will play him in the remaining games where he will indeed show his true colours
 
Khan12 said:
No thank you don't want our youngsters to be playing at 100 strike rate. Misbah played well but they would have lost if it wasn't for Sammy, as we clearly saw misbah couldn't hit.
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Liar.

In his previous match he had the highest strike rate of all, even above Umar.

Stop hating and lying.
 
what was even more hilarious was that Fakhar was so scared that he didnt even bring Sandeep back into the attack against Misbah :)))
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Others can learn a lot from him. It's not all about slogging in T20. You need to bat according to the situation.
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Others can definitely learn.

But just clarifying that he can hit the bowlers at will too and have a slog fest.
 
Misbah ul Haq: Forever leaving the heavy lifting for his partners

Sorry to say, but PZ was going nowhere until Sammy's 4,4,6. Misbah can a good supporting act, but never the driving force.

Also, Fakhar as been badly exposed as a captain. Saving SSA till it was too late and not even bringing back Sandeep was baffling!
 
man trying to get his jersey but the official website of zalmi has his jersey out of stock. :(
 
Hawkeye said:
Liar.

In his previous match he had the highest strike rate of all, even above Umar.

Stop hating and lying.
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Stop calling people lairs when you yourself is lying what is umar's career strike rate. You lair. Give me the figures then we talk in not then just shut up. Blind supporter. Go on and say Sammy 4,4,6 of rauf was not important. I said it was a good innings don't need to get emotional.
 
Hawkeye said:
Liar.

In his previous match he had the highest strike rate of all, even above Umar.

Stop hating and lying.
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Bro why are you arguing? Its been 9 years, and arguing with the haters have done nothing.

Let them post whatever they want, even if Kaptaan doesn't perform, him playing just makes the haters blood boil
 
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Sad day for Misbah haters!Always fun to see the legend Ruffling their feathers!😂😂
 
Misbah carrying on his tradition of scoring in inconsequential dead rubbers.
 
He played very well, to take him team, 3 down at the time, to a victory.
 
[MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION] 12 Yes sammy did , because he was captain of the team .Aur Poori team khelne aiy thi , akela Misbah khelne nhi aiya tha.Criticism just for the sake of criticism is never good .He has done a great service for pak cricket ,a legend of pak cricket .
 
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Godhelpma said:
[MENTION=1044]KHAN[/MENTION] 12 Yes sammy did , because he was captain of the team .Aur Poori team khelne aiy thi , akela Misbah khelne nhi aiya tha.Criticism just for the sake of criticism is never good .He has done a great service for pak cricket ,a legend of pak cricket .
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I didn't say that he didn't play well. I said he played well but people are here going on as if it's just him.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Some people here are seriously delusional.

Misbah was one of the worst ODI batsmen to play for Pak. His favorite Shafiq takes first prize though.

But here's Misbah in the Mohali semi-final:

End of over 32, required run rate 6.66:

Misbah - 8 runs (19 balls)

Umar Akmal: 28 (22)


end of over 34, RRR 7.31

Misbah: 9 (25)
Razzaq: 1 (4)


end of over 39, RRR 8.45

Misbah: 17 (42)
Afridi: 12(8)

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Now, very very slowly Misbah increased his s/r through the innings. Still was a pathetic effort. Eg., at 43 overs he was striking at 50 when the required run rate required a s/r of more than 150. He was NEVER trying to win the match.

And yet we have worshippers here calling him a legend. Compare that to Inzi's 1992 knock of 60 off 37 balls which is simply awesome even 27 years later.

Misbah screwed us over massively in that semi-final. Shameful batting. He got bashed for it, but a lot of us Pakistanis apparently have very short memories. Let's also not forget that Pakistan under Misbah led to us being ranked 8 in ODIs.
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At first, I wanted to ignore someone who is biased.

I really did and I just wanted to move on.

But your blatant lies or lack of cricketing insight forced me to respond and school you a bit "regarding the real culprits at Mohali" instead of blaming the only guy who stayed there till the very end.

1. Cricket is a game of fine margins. Those fine margins can only be reached the longer you bat, especially in an ODI. Ever wonder why Dhoni takes the game as deep as he can, even when the chances of winning are decreasing as RRR is climbing. Its not because Dhoni thinks everytime he can pull off super human chases. Its because the deeper you go, the closer you are to the opposition's score and they are more chances of the opposition panicking and making your target easier.

Misbah played according to the situation, by letting the game go as deep as he could. The problem was the deeper the game went, the faster the Pakistani batsmen departed, and they could not keep up with the tactical nous of Misbah. In the end, he was left with 30 odd runs, which if someone had stayed with him earlier, could easily have been done by launching an attack in the 45th over.

2. You want to know the real culprits of that match?

End of over 16 after Hafeez had a brain fade and Pakistan are 72-2. In walks Younis Khan the best ODI batsmen of the generation.

Pakistan run-rate : 4.5 RRR 5.5 ( manageable)

End of over number 23 and Pakistan are 100-2 and Mr. Younis Khan has managed to score 9 off 22 balls and the RRR has bumped up to 5.96

Then Shafiq decides to depart after that leaving Pakistan 3 down when Misbah walks to the crease and its over number 24.

Pakistan 103-3 with the RRR 6.07

The next 2 overs, even before Misbah can breathe as he walks in and has FACED 3 balls Mr. Younis Khan departs to leave Pakistan 106-4 and the RRR on 6.45

Now our excited fans, got Umar Akmal, boy wonder, talents of talents walking in. And they wanted Misbah and Umar to start attacking just when 2 wickets have fallen in space of 3 overs.




Anyways the match is evenly poised. All is required is for Boy Wonder to play his strokes, and let Misbah worry about the end of the match.

Boy wonder does well. He is playing shots.

Imagine Pakistan actually require 120 from 108 balls. Misbah is batting on 8 of 19 balls while Mr. Umar Akmal is batting on 28 of 22 balls.

Umar takes a single off the first ball of the over and is 29 off 23 balls. Misbah decides to not attack at that time, and blocks the next 5 balls.

End of the over and Pakistan still require 119 off 102 balls, amazing doable.

But what does Boy Wonder think? He is having palpitations at the thought of Misbah not attacking enough and he swishes across the lines and gets out.

I don't even want to talk about how RAzzaq and Afridi played.

Except 120 off 108 balls is doable with 6 wickets in hand and 119 off 102 is AGAIN DOABLE with 6 wickets in hand.

The reason I wrote this long diatribe is for you to realize the REAL CULRPITS of the match, instead of blaming Misbah for Mohali.

Those would be Mr. Asad Shafiq, Mr. Younis Khan and the most important culprit your favorite hero, Mr. Umar Akmal, the former by letting the RRR get to 6, and the latter for not realizing that 120 odd off 100 balls is Pakistan's game, if only they play it sensibly.

But off course, that would be too much to expect from the Pakistani team.

And its too much to expect from the fans too.

Hence the famous Mohali defeat is attributed to Misbah, because when you can't acknowledge that your favorites messed up, then it's time to blame the most defensive batsmen who took the game deep.

Thanks for writing blatant lies and it feels good to expose them.
 
[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION]

Firstly, your detailed analysis to rightly prove that Misbah was not the only culprit of the Mohali capitulation is commendable. However, it is also worth pointing out that he was the first fielder to drop Tendulkar, and it was a fairly regulation chance for someone with a safe pair of hands.

Secondly, you stated that Misbah took the game deep. However, was Misbah was 17 in 40 deliveries at one stage - that is NOT taking the game deep. That is bringing the innings to a complete halt and sucking out all the momentum.

It is true that on paper, we were in the game even until the 40th over. 80 in 60 with 4 wickets in hand was indeed doable, but you are ignoring something very important - Limited Overs cricket is all about momentum, which was firmly with India. Even though the asking rate was not out of control until the last 4-5 overs, we didn't look like chasing the total.

Dhoni is a master of the ODI game. It is nearly impossible chase a total against India once you let him dictate terms and control the tempo of the innings, and Misbah played a huge role in ensuring that Dhoni was controlling the pace of the game.

A SR of 42-43 for your first 40 deliveries is not acceptable in any situation. Like all other batsmen, Misbah choked. He froze at the crease and couldn't work the bowlers or the field. Even if he had batted at his usual SR of 65-70, Pakistan would probably have won the game.

You give example of Dhoni taking the game deep and finishing it off, but again, you are ignoring something very important. Dhoni never takes or never took the game deep with a SR of 40; even when he bats very slowly, his SR is better than that.

No batsman has even taken the game deep with a SR that is very slow even by Test standards. Secondly, unlike Dhoni, Misbah was a very poor finisher.

When has he ever taken Pakistan across the line? He has bottled a tight run chase almost every time. He is pretty much the opposite of Dhoni on his front.

World T20 2007, group game vs India - Pakistan needed 1 in 2 balls and Misbah failed.

World T20 2007 Final - Pakistan needed 6 in 4 balls and Misbah failed.

3rd T20 vs England, 2012 - Pakistan needed 20 in 3 overs. Misbah was at the crease till the last delivery but failed to take the team home.

ODI vs SL, Asia Cup 2014 - Pakistan needed 40 in 30 balls, and Misbah got out.

These are just the few instances off the top of my head, but I am sure there are more. I personally do not recall a single tight run chase where Misbah managed to guide Pakistan home.

What is the point of taking the game deep when you do not have the nerve to finish it off? In Mohali, had we needed 6 in 6 balls with plenty of wickets at hand, one can bet that Misbah would have found a way to bottle it in the end as usual. Finishing games off was simply not his domain. In fact, it was his Achilles' heel.

Misbah was not the only culprit of Mohali, but he was as big a culprit as anyone. Playing a long innings does not absolve him of blame.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
At first, I wanted to ignore someone who is biased.

I really did and I just wanted to move on.

But your blatant lies or lack of cricketing insight forced me to respond and school you a bit "regarding the real culprits at Mohali" instead of blaming the only guy who stayed there till the very end.

1. Cricket is a game of fine margins. Those fine margins can only be reached the longer you bat, especially in an ODI. Ever wonder why Dhoni takes the game as deep as he can, even when the chances of winning are decreasing as RRR is climbing. Its not because Dhoni thinks everytime he can pull off super human chases. Its because the deeper you go, the closer you are to the opposition's score and they are more chances of the opposition panicking and making your target easier.

Misbah played according to the situation, by letting the game go as deep as he could. The problem was the deeper the game went, the faster the Pakistani batsmen departed, and they could not keep up with the tactical nous of Misbah. In the end, he was left with 30 odd runs, which if someone had stayed with him earlier, could easily have been done by launching an attack in the 45th over.

2. You want to know the real culprits of that match?

End of over 16 after Hafeez had a brain fade and Pakistan are 72-2. In walks Younis Khan the best ODI batsmen of the generation.

Pakistan run-rate : 4.5 RRR 5.5 ( manageable)

End of over number 23 and Pakistan are 100-2 and Mr. Younis Khan has managed to score 9 off 22 balls and the RRR has bumped up to 5.96

Then Shafiq decides to depart after that leaving Pakistan 3 down when Misbah walks to the crease and its over number 24.

Pakistan 103-3 with the RRR 6.07

The next 2 overs, even before Misbah can breathe as he walks in and has FACED 3 balls Mr. Younis Khan departs to leave Pakistan 106-4 and the RRR on 6.45

Now our excited fans, got Umar Akmal, boy wonder, talents of talents walking in. And they wanted Misbah and Umar to start attacking just when 2 wickets have fallen in space of 3 overs.




Anyways the match is evenly poised. All is required is for Boy Wonder to play his strokes, and let Misbah worry about the end of the match.

Boy wonder does well. He is playing shots.

Imagine Pakistan actually require 120 from 108 balls. Misbah is batting on 8 of 19 balls while Mr. Umar Akmal is batting on 28 of 22 balls.

Umar takes a single off the first ball of the over and is 29 off 23 balls. Misbah decides to not attack at that time, and blocks the next 5 balls.

End of the over and Pakistan still require 119 off 102 balls, amazing doable.

But what does Boy Wonder think? He is having palpitations at the thought of Misbah not attacking enough and he swishes across the lines and gets out.

I don't even want to talk about how RAzzaq and Afridi played.

Except 120 off 108 balls is doable with 6 wickets in hand and 119 off 102 is AGAIN DOABLE with 6 wickets in hand.

The reason I wrote this long diatribe is for you to realize the REAL CULRPITS of the match, instead of blaming Misbah for Mohali.

Those would be Mr. Asad Shafiq, Mr. Younis Khan and the most important culprit your favorite hero, Mr. Umar Akmal, the former by letting the RRR get to 6, and the latter for not realizing that 120 odd off 100 balls is Pakistan's game, if only they play it sensibly.

But off course, that would be too much to expect from the Pakistani team.

And its too much to expect from the fans too.

Hence the famous Mohali defeat is attributed to Misbah, because when you can't acknowledge that your favorites messed up, then it's time to blame the most defensive batsmen who took the game deep.

Thanks for writing blatant lies and it feels good to expose them.
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Dude, get an editor.

I'm not going to keep reading a bunch of lines like the following, that add nothing to the argument:


"I really did and I just wanted to move on.

But your blatant lies or lack of cricketing insight forced me to respond and school you a bit "regarding the real culprits at Mohali" instead of blaming the only guy who stayed there till the very end.

1. Cricket is a game of fine margins. Those fine margins can only be reached the longer you bat, especially in an ODI. Ever wonder why Dhoni takes the game as deep as he can, even when the chances of winning are decreasing as RRR is climbing. Its not because Dhoni thinks everytime he can pull off super human chases. Its because the deeper you go, the closer you are to the opposition's score and they are more chances of the opposition panicking and making your target easier."

This is all, seriously, blather.

Shape up your arguments and make them succinctly and I willl respond.
 
Misbah was never a good odi bat for us until the end of his career where he got better. In fact misbah of last 5 yes is the best he has been at t20s which I think became his strength towards the twilight of his career...he could probably take shoaib place in t20s even now and be an upgrade
 
Misbah learn it in 44 years of age
Because is his international matches he mostly failed to did it as he done it today.

Babar will also learn it in age 44
 
Major said:
what was even more hilarious was that Fakhar was so scared that he didnt even bring Sandeep back into the attack against Misbah :)))
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Yes, Fakhar was afraid of Misbah, the ender of bowlers' careers with blistering innings like his 88 off 25 in Bloemfontein and 166 off 10 in Abu Dhabi. Truly someone who takes the match away from opposition and strikes fear in world renowned captains.
 
Blistering Barnacle said:
Dude, get an editor.

I'm not going to keep reading a bunch of lines like the following, that add nothing to the argument:


"I really did and I just wanted to move on.

But your blatant lies or lack of cricketing insight forced me to respond and school you a bit "regarding the real culprits at Mohali" instead of blaming the only guy who stayed there till the very end.

1. Cricket is a game of fine margins. Those fine margins can only be reached the longer you bat, especially in an ODI. Ever wonder why Dhoni takes the game as deep as he can, even when the chances of winning are decreasing as RRR is climbing. Its not because Dhoni thinks everytime he can pull off super human chases. Its because the deeper you go, the closer you are to the opposition's score and they are more chances of the opposition panicking and making your target easier."

This is all, seriously, blather.

Shape up your arguments and make them succinctly and I willl respond.
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In other words, I have nothing more to add, so I will blame you for not editing properly.
 
Mamoon said:
[MENTION=43242]Dr_Bassim[/MENTION]

Firstly, your detailed analysis to rightly prove that Misbah was not the only culprit of the Mohali capitulation is commendable. However, it is also worth pointing out that he was the first fielder to drop Tendulkar, and it was a fairly regulation chance for someone with a safe pair of hands.

Secondly, you stated that Misbah took the game deep. However, was Misbah was 17 in 40 deliveries at one stage - that is NOT taking the game deep. That is bringing the innings to a complete halt and sucking out all the momentum.

It is true that on paper, we were in the game even until the 40th over. 80 in 60 with 4 wickets in hand was indeed doable, but you are ignoring something very important - Limited Overs cricket is all about momentum, which was firmly with India. Even though the asking rate was not out of control until the last 4-5 overs, we didn't look like chasing the total.

Dhoni is a master of the ODI game. It is nearly impossible chase a total against India once you let him dictate terms and control the tempo of the innings, and Misbah played a huge role in ensuring that Dhoni was controlling the pace of the game.

A SR of 42-43 for your first 40 deliveries is not acceptable in any situation. Like all other batsmen, Misbah choked. He froze at the crease and couldn't work the bowlers or the field. Even if he had batted at his usual SR of 65-70, Pakistan would probably have won the game.

You give example of Dhoni taking the game deep and finishing it off, but again, you are ignoring something very important. Dhoni never takes or never took the game deep with a SR of 40; even when he bats very slowly, his SR is better than that.

No batsman has even taken the game deep with a SR that is very slow even by Test standards. Secondly, unlike Dhoni, Misbah was a very poor finisher.

When has he ever taken Pakistan across the line? He has bottled a tight run chase almost every time. He is pretty much the opposite of Dhoni on his front.

World T20 2007, group game vs India - Pakistan needed 1 in 2 balls and Misbah failed.

World T20 2007 Final - Pakistan needed 6 in 4 balls and Misbah failed.

3rd T20 vs England, 2012 - Pakistan needed 20 in 3 overs. Misbah was at the crease till the last delivery but failed to take the team home.

ODI vs SL, Asia Cup 2014 - Pakistan needed 40 in 30 balls, and Misbah got out.

These are just the few instances off the top of my head, but I am sure there are more. I personally do not recall a single tight run chase where Misbah managed to guide Pakistan home.

What is the point of taking the game deep when you do not have the nerve to finish it off? In Mohali, had we needed 6 in 6 balls with plenty of wickets at hand, one can bet that Misbah would have found a way to bottle it in the end as usual. Finishing games off was simply not his domain. In fact, it was his Achilles' heel.

Misbah was not the only culprit of Mohali, but he was as big a culprit as anyone. Playing a long innings does not absolve him of blame.
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They were bigger culprits than Misbah and that was the point.

I didn't ever say Misbah was the best finisher of ODI games, as more often than not he choked. I said, IF SOMEONE hung around him, there was a chance of Pakistan finishing off the game.

Misbah had his weaknesses, and one of them was inability to finish crucial games in ODI's. But that is almost every batsmen in Pakistan for a long time now.

You can blame Misbah for sucking out momentum, but you cannot excuse the 3, Mr. Asad, Mr. Younis and Mr. Umar Akmal for failing to play responsibly and trying to get Pakistan closer to the score.
 
Major said:
man trying to get his jersey but the official website of zalmi has his jersey out of stock. :(
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Would love to see the sales graph on that Jersey, skyrockets to a million orders after he hit 50!

On a more serious note, great innings. Absolute legend. We salute you!

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Misbah gives a T20 lesson to HBL PSL youngsters

Veteran batsman Misbah-ul-Haq gave a lesson to the youngsters featuring in the HBL Pakistan Super League 2019 with a fighting unbeaten half-century that snatched victory from the jaws of defeat for Peshawar Zalmi over Lahore Qalanadars by occupying the crease until the last ball was bowled.

The 44-year-old lifted Peshawar from a precarious 20 for five to anchor the innings with an undefeated 55-ball 59 to help them chase down the 125-run target in 19.5 overs. He added 100 runs for the sixth wicket with 35-year-old Daren Sammy who made a brilliant 36-ball 46.

Misbah said love, passion, discipline and determination were his assets.
“I think I always talked about love and passion of the game and if they are there, you can go to any level,” said Misbah, whose team are now in the play-offs with 12 points from eight matches.

“If these things are not there, then nothing can motivate you. I am still enjoying the game and tough situations, and that’s why you are playing cricket at this age,” said Misbah. “The key is to play for the love and passion and take challenges.”

Misbah said he featured in Grade-II cricket for Faisalabad earlier this year to keep himself ready for the HBL PSL.
“It depends on your determination, discipline and motivation that how far you can push yourself. If I had not played first-class and Grade-II, then it would have been difficult. Grade-II helped me as I was in the habit of fielding long overs
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“When you play regularly, then you keep fitness and hunger.”
Misbah praised his bowlers, led by Tymal Mills (three for 29) and Sameen Gul (two for 17) to keep Lahore to 124 for seven in their 20 overs.

“Credit to our bowling that they restricted them to 124, so it was possible. Our effort was to play till the 20 overs. If we were chasing 160 or 170, then we would have played differently. That situation demanded a different approach and you must play as per the situation and for that you need to have the basics right.

“You have to survive and stay at the crease and once you are settled, then you also have to hit out.”

Misbah said he was asked to thwart the danger posed by Nepalese spinner Sandeep Lamichannle.
“Lamichanne is a good bowler and has disturbed everyone in the PSL,” said Misbah of the Qalandars’ spinner. “I was able to pick his googly well and that was why I was played and stay there to counter his four overs.”

Misbah said bowling in the HBL PSL is the best among the leagues around the world.
“I think if you look at the leagues around the world, then here we have bowlers dominating. That is because that our bowlers, group of bowlers is good. Every team has a group of good set of five bowlers (in HBL PSL) and the conditions are helpful for bowlers. Here you can only score after you survive. Unlike other leagues where you start hitting from the start.”

Misbah singled out Quetta pacer Mohammad Hasnain, Karachi’s Umer Khan and Islamabad’s Musa Khan as the finds of HBL PSL 4.
“If you look Mohammad Hasnain is good. We are getting good bowlers, but not good batsmen. Hasnain is bowling at express pace, then Musa is good and spinner Umer Khan of Karachi is also very good and it is difficult to bowl at this stage.

“If you get two to three players, then it’s good for Pakistan cricket and once they are groomed they reduce the gap of international cricket.”
 
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Dr_Bassim said:
They were bigger culprits than Misbah and that was the point.

I didn't ever say Misbah was the best finisher of ODI games, as more often than not he choked. I said, IF SOMEONE hung around him, there was a chance of Pakistan finishing off the game.

Misbah had his weaknesses, and one of them was inability to finish crucial games in ODI's. But that is almost every batsmen in Pakistan for a long time now.

You can blame Misbah for sucking out momentum, but you cannot excuse the 3, Mr. Asad, Mr. Younis and Mr. Umar Akmal for failing to play responsibly and trying to get Pakistan closer to the score.
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Yes there were other culprits but unlike Misbah you don't see people defending or making excuses for them.
 
Saj said:
If only many of our current players could even manage this.
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Yes, Babar azam, imam, fakhar hasn't scored a century yet after 149 innings. Yes they struggle to play at 100 strike rate in t20. You always talk about our youngsters using him as a role model, if they start to then we can say goodbye to our cricket. A guy who couldn't score a century in 150 odd innings made us lose pretty much 2 ICC trophies, burned his kit, a spin basher, never gave chances to young players (seems allergic to young players), played his friends. Made potentially our best ever batsmen to sit on bench when he was IU captain tells you what you need to know about him.

The good thing is that pretty much all our young players look up to Babar. Not this grandad.
 
Pakpak said:
Yes there were other culprits but unlike Misbah you don't see people defending or making excuses for them.
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Err really?

Because all I see is people saying "Misbah is THE ONLY REASON WE LOST Mohali. "

Infact, Mohali and Misbah are synonymous now in Pakpassion.
 
Credit where due with his knock yesterday (albeit lucky not to get dropped in the last over), he finally managed to finish a game for his side and the way he belted Lamichhane was seriously impressive. That scrambled the brains of Fakhar who had a very poor match all round as skipper and captain for the side.

Having said that Abu Dhabi is the slowest wicket you'll find all over the globe and it's time we stop playing cricket on such wickets which yield such low scoring bore fests.
 
Credit to Misbah for such an innings at this age (his 1st outing was also decent). However, it's not a surprise actually - Misbah was always cool in such games where the challenge is about occupying the crease, rather than scoring quickly. For a target like 125 in T20 or 225 in ODI, Misbah's game is perfect - he makes it sure that he is there till end that will work almost every time. Also, the Abu Dhabi wicket is the best place for players in mid to late 40s - dead slow & low, which doesn't challenge the eye sight, reflex and back-foot game.

And, there is an alarming issue as well - I have seen the guy a year and half back in BPL and he was absolutely shocking - was hired as Captain, then after couple of games, spent entire BPL carrying drinks. Same guy, at this age playing such clutch knocks doesn't boast the quality of PSL to be honest.
 
Suleiman said:
Yes, Fakhar was afraid of Misbah, the ender of bowlers' careers with blistering innings like his 88 off 25 in Bloemfontein and 166 off 10 in Abu Dhabi. Truly someone who takes the match away from opposition and strikes fear in world renowned captains.
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Atleast do bother to watch the whole match

Ten Doeschate was never gonna bowl 2 overs, Fakhar had to bowl him because he was scared Misbah would go after Sandeep and bring the run rate even further down.
 
shaaik said:


“If you look Mohammad Hasnain is good. We are getting good bowlers, but not good batsmen.
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PSL will never produce any good young batsman simple because either team send them very low when 10-15 balls left or they prefer 35+ players over them. Misbah himself blocking a young batsman so as Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Sakil Anseri etc. All big talk but no application. So far in PSL Some of the young batsmen played 1-2 matches and some even don't get opportunity.
 
I sympathize with Misbah's decision to play on and earn big bucks. He started off very late in Cricket, and he, his wife and family have seen very tough, struggling times and from a human point of view he has every right to earn big bucks. But the guy is educated enough to make a living as an analyst for tv channels. He is a very boring and dull personality on first look, but I have heard from people who have met him that he surprisingly has a very under rated sense of humor and can be more fun company than you would imagine, there is no reason why with the passage of time and experience he cannot make it as an international commentator where you get paid handsomely as well.

Look at Ramiz Raja, his real name and recognition is being the global face of Pakistan in the commentary box and he is making money on his Youtube channel and I have read it nets him close to $25,000-$30,000 a month with his number of subscribers going up. Even Misbah can open his own Youtube channel. There is no real reason why he should be blocking a youngster anymore.
 
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