A funny thing happened in Kashmir with one of my father's friend

[Hitman]

Alright, there is this close friend of my father who visited us yesterday. He and his family visited Kashmir around 6 months ago. And he narrated us a first hand experience of his. It's not a big incident, but rather an interesting one.

He went over to a fruit vendor and was inquiring about the prices of various fruits. Another person arrives a little later and asks the vendor the prices of fruits. To the surprise of my father's friend, the vendor quoted significantly lower prices to that man.

This was confusing and outrageous as well. He flat out asked the vendor the reason for him quoting a lesser price to that other person. Prompt came the reply from the vendor, "Are woh to hamara Kashmiri bhai hain nah! Aap toh Hindustani hain, aapke liye daam alag hain" (He is a Kashmiri brother of ours. You are an Indian, and hence different price for you).

We then spoke about how the reaction would be if an Assamese businessman tried the same policy here in Assam. It's beyond imagination.

 

[Hitman]

And these are the people who get special privileges from the Government of India, something the rest of us Indians are not entitled to.

 

[Poutine]

Alright, there is this close friend of my father who visited us yesterday. He and his family visited Kashmir around 6 months ago. And he narrated us a first hand experience of his. It's not a big incident, but rather an interesting one.

He went over to a fruit vendor and was inquiring about the prices of various fruits. Another person arrives a little later and asks the vendor the prices of fruits. To the surprise of my father's friend, the vendor quoted significantly lower prices to that man.

This was confusing and outrageous as well. He flat out asked the vendor the reason for him quoting a lesser price to that other person. Prompt came the reply from the vendor, "Are woh to hamara Kashmiri bhai hain nah! Aap toh Hindustani hain, aapke liye daam alag hain" (He is a Kashmiri brother of ours. You are an Indian, and hence different price for you).

We then spoke about how the reaction would be if an Assamese businessman tried the same policy here in Assam. It's beyond imagination.

Is Assam also a disputed territory where a large portion wantt freedom ? If not then it makes no sense to compare the two.

 

[Hitman]

Is Assam also a disputed territory where a large portion wantt freedom ? If not then it makes no sense to compare the two.

Assam, like Kashmir, is a part of India. That's how things have been since 1947.

 

[Poutine]

And these are the people who get special privileges from the Government of India, something the rest of us Indians are not entitled to.

Special privileges like this? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-kashmir-is-this-worlds-first-mass-blinding

 

[Varun]

Many Kashmiris don't want to be a part of India. No secret.

 

[Poutine]

Many Kashmiris don't want to be a part of India. No secret.

Exactly, I am shocked [MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION] isn't aware of this. It's pretty common knowledge.

 

[Hitman]

Special privileges like this? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...in-kashmir-is-this-worlds-first-mass-blinding

Any separatist movement inside India will be crushed to dust by the Government. Another terrorist organization (that's what we Assamese people call them) by the name of ULFA was formed in Assam back in the 80's and they ran havoc here back then. They recruited blind fanatics and misguided souls under the lure of employment and a better life. They were killed like dogs by the Army, and we Assamese people never once left the side of our army. In other words, hundreds upon thousands of ULFA members were mercilessly killed and no one felt sympathy for them.

 

[Madplayer]

Its a shame that your Papa has liars as friends.

 

[Poutine]

Any separatist movement inside India will be crushed to dust by the Government. Another terrorist organization (that's what we Assamese people call them) by the name of ULFA was formed in Assam back in the 80's and they ran havoc here back then. They recruited blind fanatics and misguided souls under the lure of employment and a better life. They were killed like dogs by the Army, and we Assamese people never once left the side of our army. In other words, hundreds upon thousands of ULFA members were mercilessly killed and no one felt sympathy for them.

The fact that you want majority of Kashmiris crushed to dust and killed like dogs, may be the reason why the fruit seller quotes higher price to people from India?

 

[Madplayer]

The fact that you want majority of Kashmiris crushed to dust and killed like dogs, may be the reason why the fruit seller quotes higher price to people from India?

Its probably a lie anyways. Many communal people exaggerate how bad the people of other faiths or other region are while discussing serious topics with friends. Its a nice time pass while sipping tea.

And even if the vendor sold it at a higher price, he was probably being a good businessmen by getting profit from an outsider who wont visit him again while retaining the local customer who is going to visit him everyday.

 

[Hitman]

The fact that you want majority of Kashmiris crushed to dust and killed like dogs, may be the reason why the fruit seller quotes higher price to people from India?

No, I don't. I was merely speaking how a certain separatist movement was dealt with in my place.

 

[Hitman]

Its probably a lie anyways. Many communal people exaggerate how bad the people of other faiths or other region are while discussing serious topics with friends. Its a nice time pass while sipping tea.

And even if the vendor sold it at a higher price, he was probably being a good businessmen by getting profit from an outsider who wont visit him again while retaining the local customer who is going to visit him everyday.

I don't see any reason for him to lie.

 

[Madplayer]

I don't see any reason for him to lie.

Its a nice way to supplement his arguments. Examples put more weight behind one's opinions.

 

[gani999]

He went over to a fruit vendor and was inquiring about the prices of various fruits. Another person arrives a little later and asks the vendor the prices of fruits. To the surprise of my father's friend, the vendor quoted significantly lower prices to that man.

This was confusing and outrageous as well. He flat out asked the vendor the reason for him quoting a lesser price to that other person. Prompt came the reply from the vendor, "Are woh to hamara Kashmiri bhai hain nah! Aap toh Hindustani hain, aapke liye daam alag hain" (He is a Kashmiri brother of ours. You are an Indian, and hence different price for you).

We then spoke about how the reaction would be if an Assamese businessman tried the same policy here in Assam. It's beyond imagination.

It is the same story all over India. Streetside vendors always charge more if they realize that the client is a non-local. The Kashmiri vendor was only being explicit about it.

I don't know why this should warrant a separate thread

 

[CricketCartoons]

Its probably a lie anyways. Many communal people exaggerate how bad the people of other faiths or other region are while discussing serious topics with friends. Its a nice time pass while sipping tea.

And even if the vendor sold it at a higher price, he was probably being a good businessmen by getting profit from an outsider who wont visit him again while retaining the local customer who is going to visit him everyday.

Ever since Modi ji came to power I have been buying fruits only from Hindu vendors. Only my maids are muslim but I have them because they are Bengali.

 

[Madplayer]

It is the same story all over India. Streetside vendors always charge more if they realize that the client is a non-local. The Kashmiri vendor was only being explicit about it.

I don't know why this should warrant a separate thread

What a great question!

The answer is hidden in the question itself.
Why does Kashmir need a separate thread? The Indian subconscious knows the answer. And it is visible in behaviour and thinking of Indians as well. No matter how much they deny it.

 

[BlackShadow]

This left you confused? Ok.

 

[Madplayer]

Ever since Modi ji came to power I have been buying fruits only from Hindu vendors. Only my maids are muslim but I have them because they are Bengali.

Nice. If you go to other states, do the hindu vendors give special discount to you?

 

[Slog]

Assam, like Kashmir, is a part of India. That's how things have been since 1947.

Assam is considered part of India by rest of the world

Kashmir is deemed disputed territory by most of the world

 

[Hitman]

It is the same story all over India. Streetside vendors always charge more if they realize that the client is a non-local. The Kashmiri vendor was only being explicit about it.

I don't know why this should warrant a separate thread

Not where I live.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Nice. If you go to other states, do the hindu vendors give special discount to you?

No, not even the one I buy regularly from. The vegetable vendor does add free mirchi and dhaniya though.

 

[Madplayer]

No, not even the one I buy regularly from. The vegetable vendor does add free mirchi and dhaniya though.

That extra dhaniya tastes better than the actual vegetables which we buy with money.

 

[CricketCartoons]

That extra dhaniya tastes better than the actual vegetables which we buy with money.

True. Also want to add that I cancel my uber booking if the alloted driver is a muslim. Because one day the uber driver called me asking for my destination. I was going to Gurgaon from Delhi, but he refused and asked me to cancel my booking. I asked him to cancel it because it was he who was refusing. He stopped taking my calls and I was charged a fine for cancelling the booking. Then I checked and saw it was a muslim driver. Ever since then I immediately cancel any bookings if the driver is a muslim. Fool me twice shame on me.

 

[Poutine]

True. Also want to add that I cancel my uber booking if the alloted driver is a muslim. Because one day the uber driver called me asking for my destination. I was going to Gurgaon from Delhi, but he refused and asked me to cancel my booking. I asked him to cancel it because it was he who was refusing. He stopped taking my calls and I was charged a fine for cancelling the booking. Then I checked and saw it was a muslim driver. Ever since then I immediately cancel any bookings if the driver is a muslim. Fool me twice shame on me.

Is this some sort of parody or satirical account?

 

[Madplayer]

True. Also want to add that I cancel my uber booking if the alloted driver is a muslim. Because one day the uber driver called me asking for my destination. I was going to Gurgaon from Delhi, but he refused and asked me to cancel my booking. I asked him to cancel it because it was he who was refusing. He stopped taking my calls and I was charged a fine for cancelling the booking. Then I checked and saw it was a muslim driver. Ever since then I immediately cancel any bookings if the driver is a muslim. Fool me twice shame on me.

Yes, i think uber should start to allot areas to their drivers by taking their religion into consideration. Customers should be given an option in the uber app itself to choose the driver of our preferred religion. If the app also allows us to choose the drivers of a particular caste, all the more good. Uber needs to adapt as per the demands of Indian society. Thats how they will increase their business.

 

[BlackShadow]

True. Also want to add that I cancel my uber booking if the alloted driver is a muslim. Because one day the uber driver called me asking for my destination. I was going to Gurgaon from Delhi, but he refused and asked me to cancel my booking. I asked him to cancel it because it was he who was refusing. He stopped taking my calls and I was charged a fine for cancelling the booking. Then I checked and saw it was a muslim driver. Ever since then I immediately cancel any bookings if the driver is a muslim. Fool me twice shame on me.

You have a fertile imagination.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yes, i think uber should start to allot areas to their drivers by taking their religion into consideration. Customers should be given an option in the uber app itself to choose the driver of our preferred religion. If the app also allows us to choose the drivers of a particular caste, all the more good. Uber needs to adapt as per the demands of Indian society. Thats how they will increase their business.

So no word on the action of the driver who refused my booking? I try not to see people by their religion, but when they harm me then I always make a note of their religion. Never forgive. Never forget.

 

[Madplayer]

So no word on the action of the driver who refused my booking? I try not to see people by their religion, but when they harm me then I always make a note of their religion. Never forgive. Never forget.

I thought it was fairly obvious and didnt need to be mentioned that in his mind he was probably thinking about something related to his religion when he refused to go pick you up. However, him not cancelling the booking himself and then not picking your calls was due to his personal bad nature as a human being.

 

[TM Riddle]

We should make sure to charge [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] double if he ever decides to visit our respective states. Gotta teach em a lesson!

 

[kaayal]

Not where I live.

Most of them do it especially in the tourist spots. It's common all over India.

 

[CricketCartoons]

I thought it was fairly obvious and didnt need to be mentioned that in his mind he was probably thinking about something related to his religion when he refused to go pick you up. However, him not cancelling the booking himself and then not picking your calls was due to his personal bad nature as a human being.

very convenient. anything he does bad was because of his nature as human being, nothing to do with religion? The PC crowd will yell at me, but I am not afraid to say that religion shapes your nature. Why are muslims great fast bowlers and spinners? Because brutality and deception comes naturally. Why do hindus make great test batsmen, because patience and concentration is in their nature.

 

[Madplayer]

very convenient. anything he does bad was because of his nature as human being, nothing to do with religion? The PC crowd will yell at me, but I am not afraid to say that religion shapes your nature. Why are muslims great fast bowlers and spinners? Because brutality and deception comes naturally. Why do hindus make great test batsmen, because patience and concentration is in their nature.

Your example is a really bad one. Why is Bradman the best batsman then? He isnt a hindu. And why arent the 120 million Indian muslims great fast bowlers? Why are Indian hindus great spinners?

However Religion intends to shape the behaviour of an individual, not his nature. Deception ( your driver's case) comes from nature, not religion. Religion teaches to be honest hence regulating the behaviour of humans who have treacherous nature.

I stick with my words though. Uber should allow us to choose drivers based on the religion, caste, race , age, gender etc. of our choice. They need to adapt to our society. We shouldnt change and adapt to western ways when they are clearly inferior to our moral standards.

 

[Madplayer]

We should make sure to charge [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION] double if he ever decides to visit our respective states. Gotta teach em a lesson!

Do you own a shop or something?

 

[TM Riddle]

Do you own a shop or something?

Not really but I can ask the ones who do.

 

[PakLFC]

It simply suggests that those in IoK do not consider themselves as being Indian. It is disputed territory and has been since 1947, everyone knows it. They are not interested in becoming Indian's at all.

 

[Madplayer]

Not really but I can ask the ones who do.

Well when I visit Rajasthann, I am not going to come to you and say, "Heyyy TM, I'm here. Ask your people to loot my money now".
And I'm good at mimicing accents especially Rajasthandi :

 

[TM Riddle]

Well when I visit Rajasthann, I am not going to come to you and say, "Heyyy TM, I'm here. Ask your people to loot my money now".
And I'm good at mimicing accents especially Rajasthandi :

You have mispronounced the state's name twice in one para.
You are officially on my mortal internet enemies list.

 

[kaayal]

Well when I visit Rajasthann, I am not going to come to you and say, "Heyyy TM, I'm here. Ask your people to loot my money now".
And I'm good at mimicing accents especially Rajasthandi :

What is ""Rajasthandi"? )

 

[Madplayer]

You have mispronounced the state's name twice in one para.
You are officially on my mortal internet enemies list.

Only the 1st one was a typo. sorry about that. Correct me if i'm wrong, Isn't Rajasthani pronounced as Rajasthandi in the local accent?

What is ""Rajasthandi"? )

Dont bother. Southies won't know what's going on up North

 

[TM Riddle]

Only the 1st one was a typo. sorry about that. Correct me if i'm wrong, Isn't Rajasthani pronounced as Rajasthandi in the local accent?

Dont bother. Southies won't know what's going on up North

Rajasthandi?? Wth man is it like some sort of lassi or what?

 

[Madplayer]

Rajasthandi?? Wth man is it like some sort of lassi or what?

) forget it. My appologies. Must have confused Haryana's accent with Rajasthan's.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is the same story all over India. Streetside vendors always charge more if they realize that the client is a non-local. The Kashmiri vendor was only being explicit about it.

I don't know why this should warrant a separate thread

Yes. Happens in all tourist places.

 

[DeadBall]

Not where I live.

Yes, because you live there and they know you. Try to guy buy some Aloo and Bhindi wearing a disguise and speaking in a different accent.

 

[Hitman]

Yes, because you live there and they know you. Try to guy buy some Aloo and Bhindi wearing a disguise and speaking in a different accent.

So you know things about my native place better than me?

 

[troodon]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION], are you Indian or Pakistani? Do you live in India or Pakistan?

 

[DeadBall]

So you know things about my native place better than me?

Just like how you and your father's friend assumed the same?

 

[TM Riddle]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION], are you Indian or Pakistani? Do you live in India or Pakistan?

Kashmidhi

 

[troodon]

Sanatana Dharma was the only binding rope between Kashmir and rest of India. That rope started thinning for centuries and finally it has broken in the last 50 years.

Unless Muslim Kashmiris become Pandits again, Kashmir will never be wholeheartedly part of India.

India has the military muscle now. So we can keep Kashmir for as long as we are Powerful military wise. Unfortunately it looks like many Muslim Kashmiris believe that they are different to Indians.

 

[Madplayer]

[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION], are you Indian or Pakistani? Do you live in India or Pakistan?

J&k

 

[Madplayer]

Kashmidhi

Let it go now

 

[Snak3eye5]

Its just not allways about religion. I live in the US, and i would probably, due to being paranoid not get a black guy as a driver, even though its pretty racist. Regarding my own daughter or sister, i wouldn't even entertain the thought of her getting an uber regardless of what color the person is, because you just never know right ? And im talking about being in the US. The world no matter where, is just a crazy place and you live with the choices you make no matter how the person on the other side looks and judges you.

 

[Madplayer]

Sanatana Dharma was the only binding rope between Kashmir and rest of India. That rope started thinning for centuries and finally it has broken in the last 50 years.

Unless Muslim Kashmiris become Pandits again, Kashmir will never be wholeheartedly part of India.

India has the military muscle now. So we can keep Kashmir for as long as we are Powerful military wise. Unfortunately it looks like many Muslim Kashmiris believe that they are different to Indians.

Kashmiri Pandits are different than the run of the mill Indian hindus. I know hindus have different sects too but yes they are unique. I dont wanna badmouth my own people but they do consider themselves superior to most Indian Hindus perhaps its a jati or the general Varna thing, i'm not sure.