A look at Pakistan's undefeated streak in the UAE

[Aman]

Pakistan have played 10 series in the UAE (this does not include the 11th being played currently against SL).

Won: 5
Lost: 0
Drawn 5

Wanted to break it down after bringing up earlier how the record wasn't as impressive as it seemed and how it was quite easy to walk away with at least a drawn series because of the conditions in the UAE and two match series.

Also worth noting that the team best equipped to beating them in the UAE have yet to face them there.

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=64288]ethan hunt[/MENTION] where you @ son

 

[Someone]

SL will break it within next few days

 

[saeed5646]

[MENTION=64288]ethan hunt[/MENTION] where you @ son

4 drawn not 5 2010 series was in england not in uae

5 series win including the england team who beat india in 2012 or 2013 is i think is good record also

aus to whom we always have struggle

 

[Aman]

Here are India and Australia's records for comparison.

Played: 18
Won: 15
Lost: 1
Drawn: 2

Played: 17
Won: 12
Lost: 4
Drawn: 1

 

[Aman]

4 drawn not 5 2010 series was in england not in uae

5 series win including the england team who beat india in 2012 or 2013 is i think is good record also

aus to whom we always have struggle

Will correct OP.

Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Aman]

4 drawn not 5 2010 series was in england not in uae

5 series win including the england team who beat india in 2012 or 2013 is i think is good record also

aus to whom we always have struggle

Thanks for pointing it out
[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] can you change it to

Played 9
Won: 5
Drawn 4

 

[saeed5646]

ok some very simple stats

Pakistan played 26 test in uae from 2010 to 2017 excluding the current Sl series

Pakistan win 13 test and losses 5 test with 8 drawn matches

 

[saeed5646]

ok some very simple stats

Pakistan played 26 test in uae from 2010 to 2017 excluding the current Sl series

Pakistan win 13 test and losses 5 test with 8 drawn matches

so [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] you are saying this is not a decent record considering what happen to us in 2010 and also

playing not at home ,i think it is right up their in top 4 if not 3 as a best team at home from

last 10 years

 

[MenInG]

Thanks for pointing it out
[MENTION=93712]MenInG[/MENTION] can you change it to

Played 9
Won: 5
Drawn 4

post again.

 

[Slog]

Whatmore never won a series in UAE

 

[Aman]

post again.

Pakistan have played 9 series in the UAE since moving their home games there (this does not include the 10th being played currently against SL).

Won: 5
Lost: 0
Drawn 4

I wanted to break it down after bringing up earlier how the record wasn't as impressive as it seemed and how it was quite easy (for Pakistan) to walk away with at least a drawn series because of the conditions in the UAE and two match series.

It is worth noting that the team best equipped to beating them in the UAE have yet to face them there. The team who is best equipped to beat Australia in Australia beat them 3 times in 3 attempts and contributed to 3 of the 4 defeats they had at home.

Played: 17
Won: 12
Lost: 4
Drawn: 1

India have only lost one series and drawn two in the last 10 years. The side best equipped to beat them faced India once and were defeated by India (1-0).

Played: 18
Won: 15
Lost: 1
Drawn: 2

 

[Aman]

so [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] you are saying this is not a decent record considering what happen to us in 2010 and also

playing not at home ,i think it is right up their in top 4 if not 3 as a best team at home from

last 10 years

It's definitely a good record to have, but it could definitely be better (more series wins). Aus and India have lost series, but more often than not they've dominated and crushed teams at home.

There was a period where Pakistan did this, but they seem to have fallen away and have dropped Tests to the WI and a weak SL side. IIRC you also needed a record chase to cling onto a drawn series against SL in 2014. Could you see this happening to India in India or Australia in Australia? Not that it wasn't impressive to chase it down and set a world record, rather that you shouldn't have been put in a position like that in the first place.

 

[Markhor]

Difference is Australia and India are actually, you know, playing AT HOME. On pitches they've played on all their lives.

We are not.

BTW, what's New Zealand's home record in the same period ? I can recall two home series defeats in the last year and here the OP is going on about our draws

 

[Slog]

Difference is Australia and India are actually, you know, playing AT HOME. On pitches they've played on all their lives.

We are not.

BTW, what's New Zealand's home record in the same period ? I can recall two home series defeats in the last year and here the OP is going on about our draws

Not sure what relevance NZ's home record has here.. I mean even if the particular poster was always comparing it with NZ's home record maybe it might have some relevance but here he isnt.

It is a fair observation considering how much Pakistani fans chest thump about our UAE record. If you look at it its not really a world beating record

 

[Mamoon]

Our so-called "record" at home was never meant to be taken seriously. We have found ways of avoiding series defeats (until now) but we have rarely dominated the opposition. Winning 5 and drawing 4 series out of 9 is a quite a mediocre record, and losing matches to West Indies, New Zealand and Sri Lanka is an incredible low.

These teams will not come close to winning matches in places like Australia, India and South Africa.

Along with England, we have been the weakest team at home in this decade. However, England have managed to win series in Australia, India and South Africa during this period - a massive achievement no matter how you look at it.

When you consider both home and away form, we have been a mediocre Test team in this decade and comfortably below Australia, South Africa, India and England. Probably on par with New Zealand and Sri Lanka (although they won in England in 2014).

Our number one Test ranking was a bit of a joke. We didn't tour a tough team for 3 years and ascended thanks to drawing home matches against better ranked sides.

 

[ethan hunt]

Pakistan have played 9 series in the UAE since moving their home games there (this does not include the 10th being played currently against SL).

Won: 5
Lost: 0
Drawn 4

I wanted to break it down after bringing up earlier how the record wasn't as impressive as it seemed and how it was quite easy (for Pakistan) to walk away with at least a drawn series because of the conditions in the UAE and two match series.

It is worth noting that the team best equipped to beating them in the UAE have yet to face them there. The team who is best equipped to beat Australia in Australia beat them 3 times in 3 attempts and contributed to 3 of the 4 defeats they had at home.

Played: 17
Won: 12
Lost: 4
Drawn: 1

India have only lost one series and drawn two in the last 10 years. The side best equipped to beat them faced India once and were defeated by India (1-0).

Played: 18
Won: 15
Lost: 1
Drawn: 2

I am assuming you have used individual match results to show pakistani losses and series results to show indian losses because india has surely lost more than 1 game ??

Whats with the inconsistency ??

 

[htariq25]

Our so-called "record" at home was never meant to be taken seriously. We have found ways of avoiding series defeats (until now) but we have rarely dominated the opposition. Winning 5 and drawing 4 series out of 9 is a quite a mediocre record, and losing matches to West Indies, New Zealand and Sri Lanka is an incredible low.

These teams will not come close to winning matches in places like Australia, India and South Africa.

Along with England, we have been the weakest team at home in this decade. However, England have managed to win series in Australia, India and South Africa during this period - a massive achievement no matter how you look at it.

When you consider both home and away form, we have been a mediocre Test team in this decade and comfortably below Australia, South Africa, India and England. Probably on par with New Zealand and Sri Lanka (although they won in England in 2014).

Our number one Test ranking was a bit of a joke. We didn't tour a tough team for 3 years and ascended thanks to drawing home matches against better ranked sides.

UAE is NOT home. Its nothing like home. To expect Pakistan to have an unbeatable record in UAE is unreasonable. If Pakistan played at home they would be as unbeatable as India.

 

[Mamoon]

UAE is NOT home. Its nothing like home. To expect Pakistan to have an unbeatable record in UAE is unreasonable. If Pakistan played at home they would be as unbeatable as India.

No that's a myth. We have never been a dominant team at home like India. UAE has actually been beneficial for our Test results because we escaped with a lot of draws which would have been defeats in Pakistan. Also, there is no purpose in juxtaposing our team with India's at an individual level. They are simply well ahead in all formats and one CT final changes absolutely nothing.

 

[j_kazmi]

Our so-called "record" at home was never meant to be taken seriously. We have found ways of avoiding series defeats (until now) but we have rarely dominated the opposition. Winning 5 and drawing 4 series out of 9 is a quite a mediocre record, and losing matches to West Indies, New Zealand and Sri Lanka is an incredible low.

These teams will not come close to winning matches in places like Australia, India and South Africa.

Along with England, we have been the weakest team at home in this decade. However, England have managed to win series in Australia, India and South Africa during this period - a massive achievement no matter how you look at it.

When you consider both home and away form, we have been a mediocre Test team in this decade and comfortably below Australia, South Africa, India and England. Probably on par with New Zealand and Sri Lanka (although they won in England in 2014).

Our number one Test ranking was a bit of a joke. We didn't tour a tough team for 3 years and ascended thanks to drawing home matches against better ranked sides.

Why have you came out of now where when the team is going through a bad phase.

I thought you were one of the true fans of Pakistan that wasn’t a crazy Afridi or misbah fan. I thought you were some one who could criticise the team and also happily accept it when your criticism turned out to be wrong.

But you appearing out of nowhere exactly when the team is about to lose its home dominance makes it look like your here for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Mamoon]

Why have you came out of now where when the team is going through a bad phase.

I thought you were one of the true fans of Pakistan that wasn’t a crazy Afridi or misbah fan. I thought you were some one who could criticise the team and also happily accept it when your criticism turned out to be wrong.

But you appearing out of nowhere exactly when the team is about to lose its home dominance makes it look like your here for all the wrong reasons.

I am sorry if you are disappointed by my return, but rest assured, I shall not be posting regularly any time soon.

 

[ethan hunt]

India have only lost one series and drawn two in the last 10 years.

India may have only lost 1 series but that is still 1 more than pakistan has in the same period . Why is that so hard to understand .
As far as indiviual games go India has lost at least 4 if my memory is correct .
Autralia has lost more than 1 series to southafrica alone .
Also india and pakistan not playing the UAE goes both ways . Its not like Pakistan has refused to play India .

As far as drawn matches are concerned , you will naturally get more drawn games in the UAE such is the nature of the pitches . Now stop discrediting a fine acheivement from a less than perfect side.

 

[R0H1T]

I am assuming you have used individual match results to show pakistani losses and series results to show indian losses because india has surely lost more than 1 game ??

Whats with the inconsistency ??

On top of my head, India has lost just 5 tests in the last decade, less than any other team which has played 30 or more tests at home. Our w/l is better than Aus & number of wins only behind Aus, though IIRC Aus have played more tests at home.

 

[j_kazmi]

I am sorry if you are disappointed by my return, but rest assured, I shall not be posting regularly any time soon.

I didn’t mean that I’m dissapointed by your return. Quite the opposite actually as your opinions can be quite insightful.

But what I meant is that you returning to pp exactly when the team is loosing makes it look like your just here to laugh and say how right you were. Which is nothing to be proud of as we all support Pakistan at the end of the day.

 

[waleed88]

A record more by design rather than skillset... since we hosted 2 test match series mostly

 

[Nikhil_cric]

To be fair though, not losing a series at home for 10 years is fairly impressive. But a lot of factors have to be taken into account in my opinion. The UAE is a better place for Pakistan than Pakistan itself and has actually been an advantage. Pakistan have never had India tour there nor did a peak SA side play a 3 match series in the UAE. Also in the early years, ajmal and hafeez with their illegal actions clearly were responsible for the 3-0 whitewash . England might have won that series otherwise in my opinion. And despite all this Pakistan don't have a better Win/Loss ratio than either India or OZ.

 

[htariq25]

No that's a myth. We have never been a dominant team at home like India. UAE has actually been beneficial for our Test results because we escaped with a lot of draws which would have been defeats in Pakistan. Also, there is no purpose in juxtaposing our team with India's at an individual level. They are simply well ahead in all formats and one CT final changes absolutely nothing.

Still not home as much as u make it to be.

 

[Mamoon]

I didn’t mean that I’m dissapointed by your return. Quite the opposite actually as your opinions can be quite insightful.

But what I meant is that you returning to pp exactly when the team is loosing makes it look like your just here to laugh and say how right you were. Which is nothing to be proud of as we all support Pakistan at the end of the day.

I know, I was kidding. No hard feelings good sir.

 

[Mamoon]

Still not home as much as u make it to be.

The point is that playing home Tests in the UAE has not been a drawback in terms of results.

On result-oriented wickets, we will lose more than we will win.