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A statistical analysis of Younis Khan and his superior match winning ability over Sachin Tendulkar

Etherealistic said:
Younis Khan is just a Pakistani great, nothing more than that. How many upcoming young Pakistani cricketers want to be a Younis Khan? Only a handful. He fared poorly in Test matches in SENA countries and was only good at slow and low pitches.
Whereas Sachin Tendulkar is world-renowned cricketer who is idolised by not just Indians but by people from all over the world. I don't even need to bring up the stats to compare, everyone knows who will stand out.
You are just a keyboard warrior who is just interested in bringing up stats which somehow undermine the great cricketer. If by MOMs Younis Khan is better, why dont you bring up more stats and compare? There is nothing else to gloat about besides MOMs.
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Numbers are such a mystery that with right twist and hiding or manipulating key numbers, you can even show your economy is better than US or China...which is true anyway
 
Ajit Agarkar's ODI strike rate is better than Wasim Akram's! And Lord Sri Sri Agarkar didn't need any Judges to 'forgive' him either!
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Do u know? Sanga also played at no. 3.
Secondly dravid is considered a better batsman than khan by nearly 90% of fans, even pakistanis.
As for comparison with tendulkar,, tendulkar was a prodigy khan had his limitations, he is nowhere near SRT.
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Khan is a superior match winner to Sanga and Tendulkar and one of the best 2nd innings batsmen of all time. But Tendulkar was a complete batsman and just better to watch.
 
A player who helps win his team more matches in a bigger match winner. That is the only statistics that matter.

Younis Khan has helped Pakistan win 46 tests and 149 ODi. Sachin Tendulkar has helped India win 72 tests and 234 ODI.

So there is no comparison. The above statistics are self evident.
 
barah_admi said:
Khan is a superior match winner to Sanga and Tendulkar and one of the best 2nd innings batsmen of all time. But Tendulkar was a complete batsman and just better to watch.
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There is no logic behind this.
How is younis a better match winner?
And sanga had one of the weakest pace bowling attack so its obvious that many of his centuries went in vain.
 
Vivian Richards is on record saying that Tendulkar is the best batsman he has seen playing. Show me any cricketing legend who has said something similar about Younis Khan. No, the OP does not qualify as a cricketing legend.
 
If im the captain and the goal is to win the match then i know who im not picking in playing 11. :genius
 
Lol [MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] is known to bait indians and have a little bit of banter.

Can't believe people are arguing about YKnand Sachin for over three pages.
Sachin is the best batsmen to have ever played the game so far.. YK is not even the best Pakistani batsmen ever and that says a lot seeing the quality of batting stocks in Pakistan.

YK was a tremendous fighter and hard worker and deserves the praise and respect. However when you compare him with Sachin or any other top players then people will demean YK which he doesn't deserve..

Only a YK hater will open such a thread.:yk2
 
Younis Khan is not even the biggest Pakistani match winner, leave alone being a bigger match winner than Tendulkar.

The biggest match winner for Pakistan has been Inzaman ul Haq- 49 test wins and 215 ODI wins.

As mentioned by me earlier, Tendulkar figured in 72 test wins and 234 ODI wins.

Sri Lanka had two batsmen who were bigger match winners than any Pakistani cricketers. Jaywardana helped Sri Lanka win 58 tests and 241 ODIs. Sankkarkara helped Sri Lanka win 54 tests and 217 ODIs.
 
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Most runs after 100 tests:

8916 Brian Lara
8651 Kumar Sangakara
8640 Younis Khan
8553 Rahul Dravid
8508 Matthew Hayden
8507 Joe Root
 
On this day in 2000, 𝐘𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐬 𝐊𝐡𝐚𝐧 scored his maiden Test century in his 𝐝𝐞𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐠𝐚𝐦𝐞 against Sri Lanka and rest is the history.

Most runs for Pakistan in Tests (10099)

Most centuries in Tests for Pakistan (34)
 
Tendulkar is in the top 5 greatest batters off all time.

Younis Khan proberly won't even get in the top 10 off all time.
 
Sourav Ganguly has 6 MOM awards in 113 Tests.

Javed Miandad has 5 MOM awards in 124 Tests.

So going by the logic of MOM awards used by the OP, who was the better match winner between them?
 
MOM is never the criteria for judging who is the best. Saeed Ajmal is a prime example of this. He was unplayable in his prime. As far as Sachin and Younis are concerned, Sachin will always edge him out any day.
 
Sachin easy here butt I agree he is a certified choked.

As a match winner Younis is definitely better.

But India had a weak side in 90s. Strong in post 2003 era.

He was past his prime after 2005 06. So even though he played for a stronger side in post 03 era he was declining.

Younis had support from misbah only though and azhar. Bowling wasn't strong.
 
Hitman said:
Sourav Ganguly has 6 MOM awards in 113 Tests.

Javed Miandad has 5 MOM awards in 124 Tests.

So going by the logic of MOM awards used by the OP, who was the better match winner between them?
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Javed had different qualities that most batters don't have.
 
Sachin is a known bottler. Can’t have everything though I guess.

Best marketed cricketer though.
 
MOM is directly related to strength of the team. Otherwise Jayawardene is superior to Lara, Pujara is better than Miandad.
 
There is no comparison.

One is an ATG in all tiers of cricket.

The other is a Pakistani test great.
 
BouncerGuy said:
MOM is never the criteria for judging who is the best. Saeed Ajmal is a prime example of this. He was unplayable in his prime. As far as Sachin and Younis are concerned, Sachin will always edge him out any day.
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Sachin wouldn't be able to look Younis in the eye if they met.

Sachin couldn't dream of matching Younis 4th innings exploits.

@Suleiman said Sachin is just the best marketed cricketer.
 
Tendulkar was the superior player of pace, bounce and movement as seen in his SENA numbers . Averaged 51.30 whereas YK averaged around 43 in SENA (still better than Inzi and MoYo).

On the other hand, YK averaged 58 in Asia whereas SRT averaged only around 56 .

SRT was not always the best batsman on Asian wickets. Thats for sure
 
Younis is probably the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia.

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Kohli
Dravid
Miandad
Younis/Inzamam

So, if I am not going into the oldies like Hazare or Merchant or Hanif, Younis is probably among the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia. Tendulkar is probably #1 or #2.
 
Ab Fan said:
Younis is probably the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia.

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Kohli
Dravid
Miandad
Younis/Inzamam

So, if I am not going into the oldies like Hazare or Merchant or Hanif, Younis is probably among the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia. Tendulkar is probably #1 or #2.
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Sehwag gets into many all time xis and enjoys a much higher reputation among the greats of the game than younos does. Younus isnt really rated outside pakistani cricket forums
 
Ab Fan said:
Younis is probably the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia.

Tendulkar
Gavaskar
Sangakkara
Kohli
Dravid
Miandad
Younis/Inzamam

So, if I am not going into the oldies like Hazare or Merchant or Hanif, Younis is probably among the 7th or 8th best batsman to come from Asia. Tendulkar is probably #1 or #2.
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Younis is slightly better than Inzi imo. Inzamam was a Sourav Ganguly level batsman, averaging just 42 in SENA.
 
Hitman said:
Here are the mercurial 4th innings exploits of the best cricketer your country has produced with the ball in the 4th innings of Tests -

Wickets - 21; Ave - 42.09; SR - 91.3

Link: https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...orderby=default;template=results;type=bowling
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Luckily, he was an all-rounder and had a higher fourth-innings batting average (37.66) than Tendulkar (36.93).

It's relatively easy to manipulate statistics to fit your narrative. Try not to put down a great player next time.
 
Fourth innings stats are overrated. Most Test matches are decided in the first two innings.

A batsman who averages 60 in the first innings and 30 in the second innings will set up more victories for his team than a batsman with opposite numbers.

No point in being a fallen hero or the last man standing in the fourth innings of a Test when it is already too late and your first innings failure allowed the opposition to seize control and run away with the match.
 
Saying that Younis is better than Tendulkar is one of the dumbest takes of all time though. It just reeks of bias.

Every single person who thinks so would have the opposite opinion if Tendulkar was Pakistani and Younis was Indian.

Granted that Pakistani fans are intellectually bankrupt and have very poor understanding of cricket, but this goes beyond that and is an illustration of how our biases can lead us to form ridiculous and nonsense opinions.
 
Mamoon said:
Fourth innings stats are overrated. Most Test matches are decided in the first two innings.

A batsman who averages 60 in the first innings and 30 in the second innings will set up more victories for his team than a batsman with opposite numbers.

No point in being a fallen hero or the last man standing in the fourth innings of a Test when it is already too late and your first innings failure allowed the opposition to seize control and run away with the match.
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When it comes to 4th innings stats, Gilchrist averaged in early 20s while Pant averages 60+. Never hear posters here say how much better Pant is compared to Gilchrist.

Lara averaged 35 in 4th innings but that isn't used to bring him down. If stats are dissected as deeply for others as they are for Sachin, 100 such threads can be opened. No other cricketer has faced as much scrutiny as Sachin. Nearly every comparison is made with him, every time it is XYZ vs Sachin, not vs Lara, Viv, Sanga, Ponting, Greg Chappell etc. If that isn't indication of gold standard don't know what is?
 
FearlessRoar said:
watch Pakistan vs Australia Test series 2014
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How does that compare with India vs Australia, 1998? Sachin vs peak Warne on square turners. A series which psychologically damaged Warne so much that he became a passenger vs India for the rest of his career.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Younis Khan has a total of 4 centuries in SENA , Kohli scored that many in one tour.

Sachin is on a different planet altogether.
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Sachin scored a 100 in England as a 17 year old, saved that test. Then 2 in Australia as an 18 year old, including in WACA. Then a 100 in RSA as a 19 year old against Donald. So as a teenager he had 4 100s in SENA. Truth is he could have even retired at the age of 23/24 and still been one of the GOATs and at worst second best in Asia behind Gavaskar. Read what Bradman said about him in 1998, when Sachin was 25, for many past greats he was already one of the greatest batsmen of all time at the age of 25.

Those talking about his 4th innings average would call Steve Waugh the mentally toughest batsman of all time, same Steve Waugh who averaged 25 in 4th innings with no hundred. Or the mentally tough Border who averaged 34 in 4th innings.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Younis Khan has a total of 4 centuries in SENA , Kohli scored that many in one tour.

Sachin is on a different planet altogether.
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Not that it makes a big difference, but he actually score 5 in tests played in SENA.
 
I don't think Younis Khan was better but the gap isn't big in terms of impact. Sachin used to go missing during important knockout games. Sachin was mainly a JAMODI king. Sachin also never scored a triple century despite playing 200 Tests (YK scored one).

Everything that India won in the past 30 years were due to guys like Dhoni, Yuvraj etc. Without Dhoni, India probably wouldn't have won anything. Sachin was like Ric Flair of India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
In no world except PP, YK is even comparable to SRT in any format.
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In one player's case, you have to carefully look at all the All Time XI's till date (compiled by credible people of the game) to figure out which ones he has failed to make it to.

In the other player's case, you can say with your eyes closed that no non Pakistani player has ever selected him in their All Time XI. I wonder whether any Pakistani player has done so. I'd be glad if I'm corrected.
 
Younis Khan didn't play a test in Australia from 2006 till 2016. 10 years.

Didn't play a test in England from 2007 till 2016.

Didn't play in NZ from 2002 till 2011.

He regularly played in SA, every 4-5 years.

Seems he avoided SENA for whatever reasons.

If people want to talk about his avg in SENA, well his avg in Australia is skewed by a 175 Not out scored on a slow pitch in Sydney.
 
Hitman said:
In one player's case, you have to carefully look at all the All Time XI's till date (compiled by credible people of the game) to figure out which ones he has failed to make it to.

In the other player's case, you can say with your eyes closed that no non Pakistani player has ever selected him in their All Time XI. I wonder whether any Pakistani player has done so. I'd be glad if I'm corrected.
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Except on PP no one compares Sachin Tendulkar with YK anywhere.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Except on PP no one compares Sachin Tendulkar with YK anywhere.
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Not trying to derail this thread, but there have been instances in the past when some Pakistani posters have rated Abdul Qadir better than Shane Warne. No disrespect to both the deceased gentlemen.

Some people love being dishonest with themselves.
 
Hitman said:
Not trying to derail this thread, but there have been instances in the past when some Pakistani posters have rated Abdul Qadir better than Shane Warne. No disrespect to both the deceased gentlemen.

Some people love being dishonest with themselves.
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Qadir though not as good Warne by any stretch was perhaps the only world class wrist spinner in 80s. That's how he earned his reputation.

Also it was Imran Khan who in an interview bigged up Qadir to be as good as Warne. Just like his Inzy hype.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Qadir though not as good Warne by any stretch was perhaps the only world class wrist spinner in 80s. That's how he earned his reputation.

Also it was Imran Khan who in an interview bigged up Qadir to be as good as Warne. Just like his Inzy hype.
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World Class? The man averaged 49 away from home. Someone like Harbhajan Singh, whom we Indians don't even rate highly, averages 38 away from home. Qadir averaged 10 more than Harbhajan away from home.

Anyways, facts don't come in line when it comes to blind fans. I remember an Indian fan once arguing in an Indian forum how Kapil Dev was a better bowler than all Pakistani bowlers till date, bar Wasim Akram.

It's a waste of time arguing with fans who are deliberately dishonest to themselves.
 
Ok, guys. back to the topic now. Talk about Younis khan and Sachin. No more Imran-qadir stuff please.
 
sweep_shot said:
I don't think Younis Khan was better but the gap isn't big in terms of impact. Sachin used to go missing during important knockout games. Sachin was mainly a JAMODI king. Sachin also never scored a triple century despite playing 200 Tests (YK scored one).

Everything that India won in the past 30 years were due to guys like Dhoni, Yuvraj etc. Without Dhoni, India probably wouldn't have won anything. Sachin was like Ric Flair of India.
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Sachin averages 57 in wcs, 13 more than this overall ODI avg, while the great younos khan avg 21 in wcs and 14 in ct and we all now what sachin did to khans team in the 2003 and 2011 wcs.

and who cares about triple centuries, ponting, smith, viv, kallis never scored a triple
 
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