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Aamir Khan on intolerance: I am alarmed, my wife suggested moving out of India

Now the RSS want Amir's blood coz he's in Muslim dominated Turkey. They are also unhappy with his atheist wife:cummins.
 
They can criticize and abuse Amitabh for meeting Netanyahu, the PM of a country that has friendly relationship with India.

But they don't like it when the same is done to Amir "I'm not feeling safe" khan when he meets the first lady of a country which supports separatism and insurgency in India.

Aise kaise chalega pseudo seculars...

:salute to your hypocrisy.
 
They can criticize and abuse Amitabh for meeting Netanyahu, the PM of a country that has friendly relationship with India.

But they don't like it when the same is done to Amir "I'm not feeling safe" khan when he meets the first lady of a country which supports separatism and insurgency in India.

Aise kaise chalega pseudo seculars...

:salute to your hypocrisy.

Firstly the vitriol and intensity of the criticism is not even a fraction. Secondly amitabh isn’t asked to leave the country or called traitor and anti national. There literally is no comparison and I would suggest you stop doing zabardasti ke comparisons
 
Firstly the vitriol and intensity of the criticism is not even a fraction. Secondly amitabh isn’t asked to leave the country or called traitor and anti national. There literally is no comparison and I would suggest you stop doing zabardasti ke comparisons

Why will Amitabh be called anti national? He was called anti muslim, anti human rights and other things and criticized for meeting Netanyahu. Netsnyahu. Mr Netanyahu at that time was a state guest of India. Israel has very close relations with India still people criticized Bacchan. Ofcourse that criticism failed to hold ground because the common man in India has no connection to Palestine issue and is largely supportive of Israel for its Friendship with India.

OTOH Turkey has been inimical towards India. Amir went their and requested this meeting at a time when Turkey is actively supporting separatism in India. Ofcourse the criticism is more intense in this case.
 
Why will Amitabh be called anti national? He was called anti muslim, anti human rights and other things and criticized for meeting Netanyahu. Netsnyahu. Mr Netanyahu at that time was a state guest of India. Israel has very close relations with India still people criticized Bacchan. Ofcourse that criticism failed to hold ground because the common man in India has no connection to Palestine issue and is largely supportive of Israel for its Friendship with India.

OTOH Turkey has been inimical towards India. Amir went their and requested this meeting at a time when Turkey is actively supporting separatism in India. Ofcourse the criticism is more intense in this case.

That is all besides the point.

I’m just pointing out the false equivalence and that his line of questioning doesn’t make sense since there is no comparison of the specific situations.
 
Firstly the vitriol and intensity of the criticism is not even a fraction. Secondly amitabh isn’t asked to leave the country or called traitor and anti national. There literally is no comparison and I would suggest you stop doing zabardasti ke comparisons

Do you even know anything about India and politics or just spouting utter rubbish?

Why would anyone call Amitabh Anti-National. He met the leader of a country who have very good relations with. Would you call any Pakistani celeb anti-national if he/she met leader of Turkey?

Amir is getting scrutinized for his actions. He was an ambassador of Incredible India and yet went on to claim “I’m not safe here”. Not exactly promoting tourism eh?
Lastly, meeting First Lady of a country who is promoting separatism in India, isn’t exactly going to go well with people of nation. Ask yourself, would you be fine with Pakistani stars meeting Indian diplomats when relations are quite bitter?
 
That is all besides the point.

I’m just pointing out the false equivalence and that his line of questioning doesn’t make sense since there is no comparison of the specific situations.

Isn't it clear that since Aamir is a muslim these hypocrites have different rules for him? Look at that [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] guy for an example. He lives outside India but wants to interrogate Aamir Khan for meeting the first lady lol.

Aamir Khan only talked about leaving India when his wife suggested it but this guy has already ditched India for foreign currency and yet he has the balls to question the patriotism of someone who still lives in India? :inti
 
Do you even know anything about India and politics or just spouting utter rubbish?

Why would anyone call Amitabh Anti-National. He met the leader of a country who have very good relations with. Would you call any Pakistani celeb anti-national if he/she met leader of Turkey?

Amir is getting scrutinized for his actions. He was an ambassador of Incredible India and yet went on to claim “I’m not safe here”. Not exactly promoting tourism eh?
Lastly, meeting First Lady of a country who is promoting separatism in India, isn’t exactly going to go well with people of nation. Ask yourself, would you be fine with Pakistani stars meeting Indian diplomats when relations are quite bitter?
You are right Canadian bro. Let's all join together and call Surender Modi anti national. :inti
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Stupid of amir khan at best, or a statement to show where his loyalty lies. As a muslim indian, he should be extra careful that he doesn't cross a line and should be a role model of patriotism for indian muslims. But instead he brings zillat and ruswai despite how much honour hindus gave him. What a let down and ehsaan faramosh he turned out to be.
 
Isn't it clear that since Aamir is a muslim these hypocrites have different rules for him? Look at that [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] guy for an example. He lives outside India but wants to interrogate Aamir Khan for meeting the first lady lol.

Aamir Khan only talked about leaving India when his wife suggested it but this guy has already ditched India for foreign currency and yet he has the balls to question the patriotism of someone who still lives in India? :inti
Bhakts are hypocrites of the highest order. Period.
 
You are right Canadian bro. Let's all join together and call Surender Modi anti national. :inti
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lol, you would now be subjected to all kind of verbal diarrhea from clueless bhakts and see them invoking Congress any moment now.
 
Isn't it clear that since Aamir is a muslim these hypocrites have different rules for him? Look at that [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] guy for an example. He lives outside India but wants to interrogate Aamir Khan for meeting the first lady lol.

Aamir Khan only talked about leaving India when his wife suggested it but this guy has already ditched India for foreign currency and yet he has the balls to question the patriotism of someone who still lives in India? :inti

The same can be said about you...the only reason you defending Amir khan because he is a muslim. Stop bringing the religious card everytime. No where have I said anything about him being muslim.

Secondly, this seems to be a non issue as there is no news about it. No one has accused Amir Khan of anything for meeting Turkish 1st lady. No political party has said anything to Amir. The mainstream media is not even reporting this news. Only few people (mostly from unverified twitter accounts) took their frustration on twitter and correctly so.

If it was on me, I would have definitely asked RAW to interrogate Amir Khan. Turkey is an enemy state to India and regularly gives anti India statements, including on Kashmir. What was the Amir Khan doing with the 1st lady? What was his purpose of meeting him without keeping the authorities aware? I am sorry this does not come under personal meeting but sedition in my book.

If a movie actor from Pakistan secretly meets Israeli PM, you think he will not be interrogated? Same should have done to Amir Khan. But this is India and our govt (including BJP) always goes soft on these things under the garb of secularism.
 
Stupid of amir khan at best, or a statement to show where his loyalty lies. As a muslim indian, he should be extra careful that he doesn't cross a line and should be a role model of patriotism for indian muslims. But instead he brings zillat and ruswai despite how much honour hindus gave him. What a let down and ehsaan faramosh he turned out to be.

Well, his loyalty is totally exposed when he refused to meet Israeli PM (friendly country with India) but had secret meeting with Turkey 1st lady which is an anti India state. Then if public calls him anti-national, they become bhakts, hindutvas, north indians etc.

I couldnt give two hoots what people say because I know I speak truth. Amir Khan is anti national and does not have best interest for India in his heart. I can repeat that 1000 times.
 
The same can be said about you...the only reason you defending Amir khan because he is a muslim. Stop bringing the religious card everytime. No where have I said anything about him being muslim.

Secondly, this seems to be a non issue as there is no news about it. No one has accused Amir Khan of anything for meeting Turkish 1st lady. No political party has said anything to Amir. The mainstream media is not even reporting this news. Only few people (mostly from unverified twitter accounts) took their frustration on twitter and correctly so.

If it was on me, I would have definitely asked RAW to interrogate Amir Khan. Turkey is an enemy state to India and regularly gives anti India statements, including on Kashmir. What was the Amir Khan doing with the 1st lady? What was his purpose of meeting him without keeping the authorities aware? I am sorry this does not come under personal meeting but sedition in my book.

If a movie actor from Pakistan secretly meets Israeli PM, you think he will not be interrogated? Same should have done to Amir Khan. But this is India and our govt (including BJP) always goes soft on these things under the garb of secularism.

Can you spot any hate in Modi's eyes bhaijaan? It seems he is going to propose Erdogan in the following picture. A simple handshake would have been enough. Why give jhappian and pappian to an enemy country President? May be RAW should interrogate him too? :inti

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Can you spot any hate in Modi's eyes bhaijaan? It seems he is going to propose Erdogan in the following picture. A simple handshake would have been enough. Why give jhappian and pappian to an enemy country President? May be RAW should interrogate him too? :inti

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Modi is PM of the country and not some 3rd grade bollywood actor. People have voted him to power as an authority to do diplomacy. Him meeting a foreign leader is different from a bollywood actor meeting and that too secretly. You are smart enough to understand this.
 
Firstly the vitriol and intensity of the criticism is not even a fraction. Secondly amitabh isn’t asked to leave the country or called traitor and anti national. There literally is no comparison and I would suggest you stop doing zabardasti ke comparisons


Lol at Zabardasti ke comparisons ! Happens when the mirror is shown......

And why would Amitabh be called an anti national? Seriously ? Does that make any sense to you ?
 
Modi is PM of the country and not some 3rd grade bollywood actor. People have voted him to power as an authority to do diplomacy. Him meeting a foreign leader is different from a bollywood actor meeting and that too secretly. You are smart enough to understand this.

How was it “secretly” when pictures were taken and posted all over social media? :13:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I had the great pleasure of meeting <a href="https://twitter.com/aamir_khan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aamir_khan</a>, the world-renowned Indian actor, filmmaker, and director, in Istanbul. I was happy to learn that Aamir decided to wrap up the shooting of his latest movie ‘Laal Singh Chaddha’ in different parts of Turkey. I look forward to it! <a href="https://t.co/3rSCMmAOMW">pic.twitter.com/3rSCMmAOMW</a></p>— Emine Erdoğan (@EmineErdogan) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmineErdogan/status/1294684499075366913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Modi is PM of the country and not some 3rd grade bollywood actor. People have voted him to power as an authority to do diplomacy. Him meeting a foreign leader is different from a bollywood actor meeting and that too secretly. You are smart enough to understand this.

That is why I said a handshake was enough. Why give jhappian and pappian to an enemy country president and look him in the eye like that lol. Reminds me of another third grade Bollywood actor's scene from a flop movie DDLJ. :inti

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Do you even know anything about India and politics or just spouting utter rubbish?

Why would anyone call Amitabh Anti-National. He met the leader of a country who have very good relations with. Would you call any Pakistani celeb anti-national if he/she met leader of Turkey?

Amir is getting scrutinized for his actions. He was an ambassador of Incredible India and yet went on to claim “I’m not safe here”. Not exactly promoting tourism eh?
Lastly, meeting First Lady of a country who is promoting separatism in India, isn’t exactly going to go well with people of nation. Ask yourself, would you be fine with Pakistani stars meeting Indian diplomats when relations are quite bitter?
If they were in India, filming for a movie then yes.
 
How was it “secretly” when pictures were taken and posted all over social media? :13:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I had the great pleasure of meeting <a href="https://twitter.com/aamir_khan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@aamir_khan</a>, the world-renowned Indian actor, filmmaker, and director, in Istanbul. I was happy to learn that Aamir decided to wrap up the shooting of his latest movie ‘Laal Singh Chaddha’ in different parts of Turkey. I look forward to it! <a href="https://t.co/3rSCMmAOMW">pic.twitter.com/3rSCMmAOMW</a></p>— Emine Erdoğan (@EmineErdogan) <a href="https://twitter.com/EmineErdogan/status/1294684499075366913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

By secretly I meant he didnt inform the authorities before going to met her. The protocol says you need to take permission from concerned authorities before meeting with foreign delegates informally. BJP targetted Rahul Gandhi multiple times for meeting Chinese MPs secretly. But just bcoz Amir Khan is not a politician and it does not bother BJP politically, they didnt made any issue out of it...which they should have in my opinion.
 
Do you even know anything about India and politics or just spouting utter rubbish?

Why would anyone call Amitabh Anti-National. He met the leader of a country who have very good relations with. Would you call any Pakistani celeb anti-national if he/she met leader of Turkey?

Amir is getting scrutinized for his actions. He was an ambassador of Incredible India and yet went on to claim “I’m not safe here”. Not exactly promoting tourism eh?
Lastly, meeting First Lady of a country who is promoting separatism in India, isn’t exactly going to go well with people of nation. Ask yourself, would you be fine with Pakistani stars meeting Indian diplomats when relations are quite bitter?

I believe you live in Canada? How can you sit in Canada and tell what a man in India is feeling about his safety? Was he lying?

And I see many of you are bringing up this seperatism issue. What has Erdogan said about Kashmir? Does his statement go against what UN has said? Genuine question as I am not totally aware of his statement.
 
By secretly I meant he didnt inform the authorities before going to met her. The protocol says you need to take permission from concerned authorities before meeting with foreign delegates informally. BJP targetted Rahul Gandhi multiple times for meeting Chinese MPs secretly. But just bcoz Amir Khan is not a politician and it does not bother BJP politically, they didnt made any issue out of it...which they should have in my opinion.

Contrary to what you believe, Aamir Khan is one of the most popular Indian actor in the World. He is popular in Bangladesh, Turkey, Pakistan and even China. He didn't specifically go to Turkey to meet the first lady. He was there for his movie. He is not a begairat that he will say no to someone of that stature if he/she shows interest in meeting him. He was representing shining India there. Being a NRI you should be proud of that.

And let me tell you about someone who specifically went to an enemy country to shower his jhappian and pappian on Mian Nawaz Sharif. Only you can explain why did he go there lol.

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I believe you live in Canada? How can you sit in Canada and tell what a man in India is feeling about his safety? Was he lying?

And I see many of you are bringing up this seperatism issue. What has Erdogan said about Kashmir? Does his statement go against what UN has said? Genuine question as I am not totally aware of his statement.
And [MENTION=143738]CanadianG00se[/MENTION] claims to be a muslim himself. :inti
 
I don’t claim, I’M MUSLIM(although not really practising much of late).

According to him, every Indian muslim must speak against Modi, toe line of Pakistan and support anti national activities. Else you cant be muslim :inti:
 
That’s exactly what Mr Amir khan is doing. Visiting Turkey, meeting First Lady and ignoring national sentiments.

Maybe my post wasn’t clear, I meant I would be completely fine with a Pakistani actor meeting an Indian politician if they were filming in India.

What did you want Aamir Khan to do, refuse to meet the First Lady when he was working in their country? Like I said before If Turkey is an “enemy” country then Indian should just ban their actors and others from working there.
 
According to him, every Indian muslim must speak against Modi, toe line of Pakistan and support anti national activities. Else you cant be muslim :inti:

People can support who they want but won’t you agree that BJP has a lot of anti-Muslim elements? So it is odd to see a Muslim supporting them.
 
Maybe my post wasn’t clear, I meant I would be completely fine with a Pakistani actor meeting an Indian politician if they were filming in India.

What did you want Aamir Khan to do, refuse to meet the First Lady when he was working in their country? Like I said before If Turkey is an “enemy” country then Indian should just ban their actors and others from working there.

This is also a golden picture. Not sure who wanted to meet whom but everyone knows Miandad was a popular name in World Cricket whereas Shiv Sena was only limited to Maharashtra. I am sure ISI interrogated Miandad after his secret meeting with Shiv Sena. :inti

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Maybe my post wasn’t clear, I meant I would be completely fine with a Pakistani actor meeting an Indian politician if they were filming in India.

What did you want Aamir Khan to do, refuse to meet the First Lady when he was working in their country? Like I said before If Turkey is an “enemy” country then Indian should just ban their actors and others from working there.

You would be naive to think a Pakistani actor wont get backlash back home had he met Modi.
 
This is also a golden picture. Not sure who wanted to meet whom but everyone knows Miandad was a popular name in World Cricket whereas Shiv Sena was only limited to Maharashtra. I am sure ISI interrogated Miandad after his secret meeting with Shiv Sena. :inti

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Lol yeah from what I remember not many in Pakistan cared about this. It’s not weird for visiting cricketers and actors to meet local politicians.


IIRC Rahat Fateh was at Gautam Gambhir’s wedding and there was no backlash in Pakistan despite GG being anti-Pakistan.
 
Lol yeah from what I remember not many in Pakistan cared about this. It’s not weird for visiting cricketers and actors to meet local politicians.


IIRC Rahat Fateh was at Gautam Gambhir’s wedding and there was no backlash in Pakistan despite GG being anti-Pakistan.

No comparison as those pakistanis were muslims.
 
No comparison as those pakistanis were muslims.

Good point, If Aamir Khan wasn’t a Muslim this would be a non-issue. I think the Indian government should give a list to Indian Muslims on how to act and who they are allowed to meet. Otherwise they might get confused and think they have the same right as other non-Muslim actors.
 
Good point, If Aamir Khan wasn’t a Muslim this would be a non-issue. I think the Indian government should give a list to Indian Muslims on how to act and who they are allowed to meet. Otherwise they might get confused and think they have the same right as other non-Muslim actors.

And this is logical. There is history which says hindus and muslims are poles apart and as a population (as individuals they can be friens) they are not compatible. So it is only fair that amir khan's loyalty is being questioned. Not that a hindu indian cannot be a traitor, but it is very unlikely if it is a practicing hindu.
 
And this is logical. There is history which says hindus and muslims are poles apart and as a population (as individuals they can be friens) they are not compatible. So it is only fair that amir khan's loyalty is being questioned. Not that a hindu indian cannot be a traitor, but it is very unlikely if it is a practicing hindu.

Right, so Khan is getting hate because he is more likely to be a traitor because of his religion? Got it. Thanks for explaining the Indian point of view to me. Its very interesting.
 
When did Turkey become an enemy state??! Are Indians not allowed to work there? Cause if they are, then meeting the first lady if invited, is not really that big of a deal. How can one say no, but continue to do his business there.
 
Right, so Khan is getting hate because he is more likely to be a traitor because of his religion? Got it. Thanks for explaining the Indian point of view to me. Its very interesting.

No, not just because of his religion, but for his actions. Religion is a force multiplier here. That is why he should have been more careful. After all hindus did for him, this is how he repays them.
 
When did Turkey become an enemy state??! Are Indians not allowed to work there? Cause if they are, then meeting the first lady if invited, is not really that big of a deal. How can one say no, but continue to do his business there.

You can gaslight this serious matter of treason, will not work.
 
When did Turkey become an enemy state??! Are Indians not allowed to work there? Cause if they are, then meeting the first lady if invited, is not really that big of a deal. How can one say no, but continue to do his business there.

Aamir requested the meeting.
 
According to him, every Indian muslim must speak against Modi, toe line of Pakistan and support anti national activities. Else you cant be muslim :inti:

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Ironic isn’t it? They cry about discrimination and what not, yet they guilty of racial profiling
 
Seems Indian courts are busy with other things, else treason trials would have filled out their timelines very easily.
 
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Ironic isn’t it? They cry about discrimination and what not, yet they guilty of racial profiling

I don’t think it’s profiling. I think some are just confused to see a Muslim supporting a party that has known anti-Muslims like Yogi and Modi in. I mean didn’t Yogi openly threaten Muslims with rape and violence?

Even if I wasn’t Muslim, I think I would have trouble supporting a party where he is a high ranking member and minister.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/in...d-cases-against-yogi-adityanath-you-must-know
 
Of course india isnt intolerable say the hinduva goons now abusing amir for meeting the turkish first lady
 
Stupid of amir khan at best, or a statement to show where his loyalty lies. As a muslim indian, he should be extra careful that he doesn't cross a line and should be a role model of patriotism for indian muslims. But instead he brings zillat and ruswai despite how much honour hindus gave him. What a let down and ehsaan faramosh he turned out to be.

Yes he should move to pakistan now As hes shown his true colours right
 
I don’t think it’s profiling. I think some are just confused to see a Muslim supporting a party that has known anti-Muslims like Yogi and Modi in. I mean didn’t Yogi openly threaten Muslims with rape and violence?

Even if I wasn’t Muslim, I think I would have trouble supporting a party where he is a high ranking member and minister.

https://newsable.asianetnews.com/in...d-cases-against-yogi-adityanath-you-must-know

Cause i have seen and experience CONGRESS PARTY and how cruel they are. I dont support BJP, i just support anyone who is against CONGRESS. I just cant stand Ghandi and his mafia family destroying India. I would really love some new party form by youths and lead India ahead. But for now, it seems pipe dream. If you think im lying, just check how Congress alliance govt have been ruling Maharashtra. They tried everything to turn Sushant singh accidental death into suicide and closed the case. Congress will take India into its grave... BJP is like band-aid and not a long term solution. Even they are with their everyday hate filled comments are getting into my nerves.

Fact check: There are way more communal riots, minority killed, property destroyed under Congress government in just 2-3 years in 80s than under Modi govt.
 
No, not just because of his religion, but for his actions. Religion is a force multiplier here. That is why he should have been more careful. After all hindus did for him, this is how he repays them.

They should be thankful to him Without him and his ilk the bollywood film industry would be in the gutter with third rate hindu actors who nobody wants to watch
 
They should be thankful to him Without him and his ilk the bollywood film industry would be in the gutter with third rate hindu actors who nobody wants to watch

Have you heard of Amitabh Bacchan or Rajesh Khanna before him or Dev Anand?

Everyone knew Dilip Kumar was a Muslim no one cared and before the political hypocrisy started no one cared if the 3 Khans were Muslims either.

May be it matters in Pakistan, never did india.

By the way be it Amir Khan or his name could have been Amar Kumar, they are criticized for going against the state, they are not abused for their religion or called Islamic terrorists or something.

Look beyond Hindu-Muslim thing. If you live in Pakistan then you might find hard to believe but people move beyond religion to succeed. If you live outside Pakistan then that makes it even more scary.
 
Have you heard of Amitabh Bacchan or Rajesh Khanna before him or Dev Anand?

Everyone knew Dilip Kumar was a Muslim no one cared and before the political hypocrisy started no one cared if the 3 Khans were Muslims either.

May be it matters in Pakistan, never did india.

By the way be it Amir Khan or his name could have been Amar Kumar, they are criticized for going against the state, they are not abused for their religion or called Islamic terrorists or something.

Look beyond Hindu-Muslim thing. If you live in Pakistan then you might find hard to believe but people move beyond religion to succeed. If you live outside Pakistan then that makes it even more scary.

Cmon man, have some self awareness. You are making it seem like India is some sort of evolved society where religious difference don't exist. You realize with the internet, the news of people being lynched for eating meat or being beaten for not chanting slogans are not private right. The ruling party in your country uses religion as their main identity to get votes, so your patronizing speech is pretty funny. Your post might have made sense if you were from somewhere like Sweden lol.

Anyways getting back to the Khans you said no one cares about their religion right? Then how come boycott Muslim actor was a top trend on Indian twitter. https://thewire.in/communalism/ministers-hate-accounts-twitter-follow-boycott-muslims


Obviously not saying every Indian is hateful, but clearly enough care about their religion for it to be come a top trend. Its naive to think that Amir's religion did not play a big part in this reaction.
 
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Cause i have seen and experience CONGRESS PARTY and how cruel they are. I dont support BJP, i just support anyone who is against CONGRESS. I just cant stand Ghandi and his mafia family destroying India. I would really love some new party form by youths and lead India ahead. But for now, it seems pipe dream. If you think im lying, just check how Congress alliance govt have been ruling Maharashtra. They tried everything to turn Sushant singh accidental death into suicide and closed the case. Congress will take India into its grave... BJP is like band-aid and not a long term solution. Even they are with their everyday hate filled comments are getting into my nerves.

Fact check: There are way more communal riots, minority killed, property destroyed under Congress government in just 2-3 years in 80s than under Modi govt.

Its your country so I will take your word for it but from an outsiders point of view, hate against Muslims seem to be rising at an alarming rate.

Anyways I get your point, congress reminds me of Pakistans people's party so I understand why you don't like them. Hopefully you guys can get a decent third party soon.
 
Aamir requested the meeting.
I stand corrected then. I hadn't fully read up on this topic.

Still it could be that he wanted to spread goodwill by meeting the first lady while he is working in their country. I dont get what's wrong in it especially since there was nothing political about what the talks were.

We have diplomatic relations with Turkey and we aren't at war. The Indian ambassador to Turkey himself had great words to speak of this meeting. Why are people reacting over such a non issue.
 
I stand corrected then. I hadn't fully read up on this topic.

Still it could be that he wanted to spread goodwill by meeting the first lady while he is working in their country. I dont get what's wrong in it especially since there was nothing political about what the talks were.

We have diplomatic relations with Turkey and we aren't at war. The Indian ambassador to Turkey himself had great words to speak of this meeting. Why are people reacting over such a non issue.

Sorry but who is he to spread goodwill on behalf of India? Is he an elected representative?

Though we are not at war with Turkey but they supports seperatist movement in Kashmir and believes Indian army are occupying force. Basically, a stand that India have unanimously rejected in UN.

Now if Amir Khan proactively want to meet leader of that country, it surely raises doubt. Why does he want to meer her? To discuss what? Goodwill gesture? I highly doubt that. Especially given Khan's past where he accused India of getting intolerant, planning to leave country etc.
 
I stand corrected then. I hadn't fully read up on this topic.

Still it could be that he wanted to spread goodwill by meeting the first lady while he is working in their country. I dont get what's wrong in it especially since there was nothing political about what the talks were.

We have diplomatic relations with Turkey and we aren't at war. The Indian ambassador to Turkey himself had great words to speak of this meeting. Why are people reacting over such a non issue.

Because he is a Muslim and it hurts. How dare he do that.
 
Sorry but who is he to spread goodwill on behalf of India? Is he an elected representative?

Though we are not at war with Turkey but they supports seperatist movement in Kashmir and believes Indian army are occupying force. Basically, a stand that India have unanimously rejected in UN.

Now if Amir Khan proactively want to meet leader of that country, it surely raises doubt. Why does he want to meer her? To discuss what? Goodwill gesture? I highly doubt that. Especially given Khan's past where he accused India of getting intolerant, planning to leave country etc.

Why does Amir Khan have to be an elected representative to spread goodwill on behalf of India? Is there a law against Indian celebrities spreading goodwill for their country?
 
Why does Amir Khan have to be an elected representative to spread goodwill on behalf of India? Is there a law against Indian celebrities spreading goodwill for their country?

If he was indeed spreading goodwill, it should be encouraged. Nothing like an indian muslim, scared or not, who goes out to other countries and says all is well in india. But from the conversations I picked from watching the images, I think he was praising ertugrul series and spreading turkish soft power in india. He should have asked the first lady to watch some quality bollywood movies, and some of our own super hit tv shows like mahabharat. he should act like am abassasdor for india, not the ottoman country.
 
If he was indeed spreading goodwill, it should be encouraged. Nothing like an indian muslim, scared or not, who goes out to other countries and says all is well in india. But from the conversations I picked from watching the images, I think he was praising ertugrul series and spreading turkish soft power in india. He should have asked the first lady to watch some quality bollywood movies, and some of our own super hit tv shows like mahabharat. he should act like am abassasdor for india, not the ottoman country.

This is the ultimate soft power in action actually. First you praise the entertainment industry of the country which is hosting you, then when they are aglow with goodwill and cheer, you offer them your superior Bollywood fare.

This is exactly what the elected representatives of India do in Afghanistan. Do you think when they offer to build friendly relations with that country they go there and demand the mosques be demolished and Afghans revert to hinduism?
 
This is the ultimate soft power in action actually. First you praise the entertainment industry of the country which is hosting you, then when they are aglow with goodwill and cheer, you offer them your superior Bollywood fare.

This is exactly what the elected representatives of India do in Afghanistan. Do you think when they offer to build friendly relations with that country they go there and demand the mosques be demolished and Afghans revert to hinduism?

I only wish this was true and amir was following the fundamental strategy of us indians..mooh mein ram ram. but he has damaged our secular image in the past, so we are justified in being suspicious of his intentions. Even as a hardcore hindutva follower, i don't want the secular image to be tarnished.
 
From Sushant Singh to Aamir Khan: Hindutva groups are using social media mobs to attack Bollywood

Is Bollywood superstar Aamir Khan “anti-India”? The question might seem incredible – even ridiculous. However, India’s new political culture of social media mobilisation is trying to push the bounds of common sense in order to sell the idea that Khan, one of India’s biggest movie stars, is somehow a traitor to India.

The trigger was innocuous enough. Aamir Khan had met the First Lady of Turkey, Emine Erdoğan on August 15 while shooting for a film in the country. The fact was, in fact, tweeted out by Erdoğan herself, speaking of Khan as a “world-renowned Indian actor, filmmaker and director”.

This was soon commented upon by none other than India’s ambassador to Turkey, Sanjay Panda, who called it a “special moment”. “First Lady H.E. Emine Erdogan receives India’s Cultural Ambassador and one of our finest exponents of meaningful cinema Aamir Khan on a location scouting trip to Turkey for his latest film Laal Singh Chhadha,” tweeted out Panda.

However, so powerful and politically biased are India’s social media mobs that an issue doesn’t really need to be outrageous to spark outrage. For much of Monday, Khan was attacked viciously by popular handles with close links to the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party.

So strident was this attack that Kangana Ranaut, a Bollywood actor who has publicly declared her admiration for the BJP, even brought up the question of which religion Khan’s children follow. Later on Monday, Times Now, a TV channel with strong pro-government leanings conducted an entire show around the rhetorical question of whether Khan backed “anti-India Islamo fascists”.

Hindutvaising India

The fact that Bollywood’s top three superstars – Shah Rukh, Salman and Aamir – are Muslim has long irked Hindu nationalists.

In 2015, for example, as Shah Rukh Khan spoke about growing “intolerance” in India, in a response devoid of irony, then BJP MP and now Uttar Pradesh chief minister Adityanath compared him to Pakistani terrorist and 26/11 mastermind Hafiz Saeed, and said he is “welcome” to go to Pakistan.

Two years later, Shah Rukh Khan’s movie Raees – in which he played a good-hearted Muslim gangster from Gujarat – incurred the wrath of BJP National General Secretary Kailash Vijayvargiya. Like Adityanath, Vijayvargiya’s response was Islamophobic in the extreme, comparing Bollywood’s biggest superstar to Dawood Ibrahim, accused of masterminding the 1993 Bombay bomb blasts.

Like Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan has been in the crosshairs of the BJP ever since in 2015 he spoke of the fact that he felt “alarmed” by recent incidents of intolerance, and that his wife Kiran Rao even suggested that they should leave the country”.

Like the earlier comparisons of Shah Rukh Khan with Pakistani terrorists, the attack on Aamir Khan for meeting with Turkey’s first lady carries deep political undertones that would resonate with the BJP’s Hindutva voter base. For nearly a decade now, Turkish President Recep Erdoğan has positioned himself in global politics as a pan-Islamist, vying for leadership of the Sunni Islamic world with Turkey as the successor state of the Ottoman Empire.

While Khan meeting a politician of the country he was shooting in was natural, that the country is Turkey allows the BJP’s online campaigns to conveniently employ Islamaphobic dog whistles.

Moving the mob online

What has changed since 2015, however, is the explosion of social media as well as the rise of TV channels which, night after night, run highly politicised programmes often filled with gossip, rumour and even falsehoods. Both factors have been skillfully used by the BJP to push its politics – as seen with Aamir Khan.

While Aamir Khan is the latest actor to get sucked into this, the canvas is wider and appears to sweep across Bollywood. For example, the death of Sushant Singh Rajput has seen an even greater narrative mobilisation as online mobs backed by TV channels have kept the issue constantly on the boil.

An article in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh’s mouthpiece Organiser directly connected the outrage around the tragedy to Hindu nationalist tropes. “More than nepotism, grave charges of spinning anti-India pro-Islamist-Leftist narrative have raised concerns,” it claimed.

But ideology isn’t all. The online mobs around Rajput’s death are also helping the BJP’s day-to-day politics, being used to dominate the Bihar election campaign as well as attack Aditya Thackeray, Maharashtra minister and son of the chief minister, by floating conspiracy theories connecting him to the death.

In 2018, Bollywood lyricist Javed Akhtar, speaking to Nasreen Munni Kabir drew out how Bollywood has its own culture which is “quite different from Indian culture”. Given the BJP’s brand of unitary nationalism, this is an odd state to be in. Thus, in the past six years, the party has been trying to take control of the film industry like it has done with other Indian institutions.

For Bollywood, this has meant a spate of movies which largely subscribe to the BJP’s view of medieval Muslim kings as unquestionable tyrants. It has also resulted in jingoistic movies such as ‘Uri’ directly praising military missions under the Modi government. So political was the film that its dialogues were directly lifted by top BJP leaders while campaigning for elections.

For any holdouts within Bollywood, the BJP has deployed its massive media machine which can, almost magically, create an online mob out of nothing. The BJP has often used the phrase “naya Hindustan”, or New India, taken from the movie Uri in its campaigning. At least some part of this new India is being created by well crafted social media and TV campaigns designed to overwhelm the average India with nothing but the BJP’s point of view.

https://scroll.in/article/970746/fr...e-using-social-media-mobs-to-attack-bollywood
 
If Hindutva is being used to attack this crap called Bolywood then nothing but respect. Hey at least they are not saying Bollywood against the tenets of Hinduism or message of Lord Krishna and issuing death threats, they are issuing scary social media trolling and asking the hypocrites to grow a spine. This is good no?

Entire India is raising voice against Bollywood, don’t worry Pakistanis, India will still produce quality movies minus the Bollywood tamasha and if not there are dubbed South Indian movies as well that you guys relish so, all good.


Let’s just fight against this injustice going on and this nepotism issue. Join us if you can.
 
From Sushant Singh to Aamir Khan: Hindutva groups are using social media mobs to attack Bollywood

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For any holdouts within Bollywood, the BJP has deployed its massive media machine which can, almost magically, create an online mob out of nothing. The BJP has often used the phrase “naya Hindustan”, or New India, taken from the movie Uri in its campaigning. At least some part of this new India is being created by well crafted social media and TV campaigns designed to overwhelm the average India with nothing but the BJP’s point of view.

https://scroll.in/article/970746/fr...e-using-social-media-mobs-to-attack-bollywood

The menace of BJP continues to destroy India from within.
 
If Hindutva is being used to attack this crap called Bolywood then nothing but respect. Hey at least they are not saying Bollywood against the tenets of Hinduism or message of Lord Krishna and issuing death threats, they are issuing scary social media trolling and asking the hypocrites to grow a spine. This is good no?

Entire India is raising voice against Bollywood, don’t worry Pakistanis, India will still produce quality movies minus the Bollywood tamasha and if not there are dubbed South Indian movies as well that you guys relish so, all good.


Let’s just fight against this injustice going on and this nepotism issue. Join us if you can.


Your usual resort to whataboutism. Why do you always need to defend Hindutva by comparing to Islam? Doesn't it stand for itself regardless of what happens in Pakistan?
 
Your usual resort to whataboutism. Why do you always need to defend Hindutva by comparing to Islam? Doesn't it stand for itself regardless of what happens in Pakistan?

Because firstly there is nothing called “Hindutva” in Hinduism. It’s a negative connotation created to show equivalence between other religion based terror ideologies be it from any religion. I am not saying to patronize anyone but sure just like every religion out there sure there is an extremist angle by a few but that is not called “Hindutva” it’s religious based extremism by a few. Assuming you are an honest, tax paying British Pakistani you should know it first hand how generalizing and stereotyping works on the actions of a few.So the entire premise of your question comes from a place of pre conceived bias.
 
The menace of BJP continues to destroy India from within.

That’s a very strong statement. Imran Khan is a puppet prime minister selected by the army. There you go, I made a blanket statement too.
 
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Because firstly there is nothing called “Hindutva” in Hinduism. It’s a negative connotation created to show equivalence between other religion based terror ideologies be it from any religion. I am not saying to patronize anyone but sure just like every religion out there sure there is an extremist angle by a few but that is not called “Hindutva” it’s religious based extremism by a few. Assuming you are an honest, tax paying British Pakistani you should know it first hand how generalizing and stereotyping works on the actions of a few.So the entire premise of your question comes from a place of pre conceived bias.

Exactly. So a Hindu of confidence will extol the virtues of his religion or lifestyle without having to refer to other religions to justify anything. But you raise a good point, as there is no such thing called Hindutva in Hinduism, neither is there such a thing called terrorism in Islam. I have no problem with generalising or stereotyping of British Pakistanis by the way, I am bilingual so can converse in that tongue too. :)
 
That’s a very strong statement. Imran Khan is a puppet prime minister selected by the army. There you go, I made a blanket statement too.

Apologies if I insulted anything you hold dear but I was reacting to the article above about BJP.

Yes you can say that about Imran Khan as many do and that's fine - it could be true but not the way I see it.
 
Modi is PM of the country and not some 3rd grade bollywood actor. People have voted him to power as an authority to do diplomacy. Him meeting a foreign leader is different from a Bollywood actor meeting and that too secretly. You are smart enough to understand this.

I don't care about other things you wrote but how / why would you call one of the GOAT's like Amir Khan a third grade Bollywood actor? Are you ok? :inti
 
Exactly. So a Hindu of confidence will extol the virtues of his religion or lifestyle without having to refer to other religions to justify anything. But you raise a good point, as there is no such thing called Hindutva in Hinduism, neither is there such a thing called terrorism in Islam. I have no problem with generalising or stereotyping of British Pakistanis by the way, I am bilingual so can converse in that tongue too. :)

I think you are articulate and can debate fairly, but first 2 principles of debate: come prepared and interpret the other side completely where you have failed.

You got offended when I said the threats were nothing to do with religion. There is a huge outrage in India from all sections of the society on what happened with a young actor and all the powers that tried to suppress his death. Amir Khan’s religion was never the problem or else he wouldn’t be a multi millionaire influential enough to spend days with head of states and their families. He is what he is because he is talented and his art was appreciated by every section of Indians.

However what is being pointed out is the hypocrisy. It just so happens that his name is Amir Khan that some might start digging into the Hindu Muslim angle but no one in India looks at an accomplished guy from a religious angle.

Neither was Azharuddin convicted of Fixing because of his religion (even though he has done well for himself since then) nor was Shami saved from all the allegations and family drama because of it. I heard some Pakistani channels saying Shami didn’t play in one game because BJP government hates Muslims :))).

Let me simplify. We believe in Karma. Good karma gets you good results like Amir Khan’s or SRK’s millions. Bad Karma gets you what you deserve be it Amir Khans hypocrisy or Azhar’s fixing. It is as simple as that for me and rest of Indians, probably a very confusing and complex concept for you to grasp.
 
I don't care about other things you wrote but how / why would you call one of the GOAT's like Amir Khan a third grade Bollywood actor? Are you ok? :inti

Lol yea that was funny. If Amir Khan is 3rd grade then dunno what it says about indian film industry considering his stature there
 
Lol yea that was funny. If Amir Khan is 3rd grade then dunno what it says about indian film industry considering his stature there

There is a saying In film circles you are only as good as your last Friday. Amir’s last movie was a mega flop. Amir is not a third grade actor but he might be a 3rd grade intellectual. You can apply that to Meryl Streep,George Clooney etc.

So Amir can be a great actor but he could still be a 3rd grade intellectual and a hypocrite. Just because you are good in your profession means you can escape criticism on everything lol.

As I said his religion probably matters in Pakistan but not in India.
 
As I said his religion probably matters in Pakistan but not in India.

You are acting as if India is some Scandinavian uber secular country :))


We all get news from your country as well. Just earlier this year 50 Muslims got lynched in your capital city only because of their religion.
 
There is a saying In film circles you are only as good as your last Friday. Amir’s last movie was a mega flop. Amir is not a third grade actor but he might be a 3rd grade intellectual. You can apply that to Meryl Streep,George Clooney etc.

So Amir can be a great actor but he could still be a 3rd grade intellectual and a hypocrite. Just because you are good in your profession means you can escape criticism on everything lol.

As I said his religion probably matters in Pakistan but not in India.

No one was talking about his intellectual abilities I was talking about him being a third grade actor.....
 
You are acting as if India is some Scandinavian uber secular country :))


We all get news from your country as well. Just earlier this year 50 Muslims got lynched in your capital city only because of their religion.

Ok by the same account BLM protests are Still going on in the USA and has had an impact all over the world.

On the other hand I have never heard of racial or religious discrimination in North Korea.

North Korea must be a paradise and US a miserable place then right?

Look when there is a lot of diversity things can go out of control. They did in the previous government and they do now and they will continue be it in India or in any multi cultural society. Could be a complex concept for some

There were a couple of Sadhus who got lynched as well which is also a big news in India. I wonder why that news hasn’t reached to you yet? Don’t answer it was a rhetorical question.
 
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I don't care about other things you wrote but how / why would you call one of the GOAT's like Amir Khan a third grade Bollywood actor? Are you ok? :inti

Don't you know Aamir Khan is a 3rd grade actor because he spoke about intolerance even though his hindu wife was the one who suggested him to move out of India? Nobody criticised her I wonder why? :inti
 
Have you heard of Amitabh Bacchan or Rajesh Khanna before him or Dev Anand?

Everyone knew Dilip Kumar was a Muslim no one cared and before the political hypocrisy started no one cared if the 3 Khans were Muslims either.

May be it matters in Pakistan, never did india.

By the way be it Amir Khan or his name could have been Amar Kumar, they are criticized for going against the state, they are not abused for their religion or called Islamic terrorists or something.

Look beyond Hindu-Muslim thing. If you live in Pakistan then you might find hard to believe but people move beyond religion to succeed. If you live outside Pakistan then that makes it even more scary.

Are you talking about BJP? :inti
 
There is a saying In film circles you are only as good as your last Friday. Amir’s last movie was a mega flop. Amir is not a third grade actor but he might be a 3rd grade intellectual. You can apply that to Meryl Streep,George Clooney etc.

So Amir can be a great actor but he could still be a 3rd grade intellectual and a hypocrite. Just because you are good in your profession means you can escape criticism on everything lol.

As I said his religion probably matters in Pakistan but not in India.

You are just babbling at this point.

The poster says third grade actor and we were laughing at that. Writing a long essay and brining in intellectual level or whatever doesn’t change the poster calling him a 3rd grade actor. If he had called Amir Khan a low intellect individual then your post may have had some merit.

And his religion does matter in India. You can have your opinion and are entitled to it.
 
There is a saying In film circles you are only as good as your last Friday. Amir’s last movie was a mega flop. Amir is not a third grade actor but he might be a 3rd grade intellectual. You can apply that to Meryl Streep,George Clooney etc.

So Amir can be a great actor but he could still be a 3rd grade intellectual and a hypocrite. Just because you are good in your profession means you can escape criticism on everything lol.

As I said his religion probably matters in Pakistan but not in India.

What a joke from an ignorant NRI bhakht. :inti
 
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