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AB de Villiers: ‘I felt sorry for the Australians, especially Steve Smith’

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With its intense travel schedule, high-speed cricket and expectant crowds, the Indian Premier League is an unlikely place to unwind. But for AB de Villiers, among the competition’s master batsmen, it is like an ashram compared with the Test cricket that came before.

We are in bustling Mumbai, where De Villiers and Royal Challengers Bangalore have arrived for a match the following night. The intention is to chat about a tournament he describes as “the most powerful in the world” but South Africa’s historic 3-1 win over Australia last month – with its running verbals, disciplinary hearings, ball-tampering and bans – is impossible to ignore.

“It was rough,” says De Villiers, fresh out of hectic midday traffic and into the team hotel. “But it was the best series I have been a part of. There were scandals that weren’t called for but cricket-wise, the way we dominated was, well, I haven’t been part of a team that has done that to them.”

De Villiers is right. It was a clash for the ages, with the tourists going 1-0 up in Durban and holding the whip hand in Port Elizabeth until his sublime 126 not out in South Africa’s first-innings reply changed the entire complexion. A first home series win over Australia since readmission followed so it is little wonder he holds his 22nd Test century, made against a rampant attack, a reversing ball and with wickets tumbling at the other end, among his greatest performances.

“Sometimes you don’t quite realise what you have achieved until you look back. We were about to collapse like we had in Durban and it was: ‘Here we go again.’ So to get through that and score a special hundred that helped the team to victory was unbelievable. It was one of my best ever.

“It’s not often you get into that kind of zone batting either. I just felt so calm at the wicket. It’s so strange, your head just goes quiet sometimes. Days like that don’t come around very often, so you have to enjoy it.”

Such clarity in the middle is testament to his enviable talent, not least at an age, 34, when lesser mortals can find themselves grimly grinding out runs. It also sits in contrast to a series that even at 1-1, halfway through, had already witnessed enough drama to cram a boxset.

From David Warner’s stairwell fracas with Quinton de Kock – in response to a crude sledge about his wife – to Nathan Lyon throwing the ball on to De Villiers in disrespectful celebration after a run-out, and Kagiso Rabada’s shoulder contact with Steve Smith, the controversies kept coming. Jeff Crowe described the series as the worst he had seen in 14 years as a match referee.

De Villiers says: “It was seriously tough cricket but that’s how Tests should be played. There was all this talk about ‘the line’ and you don’t want to get too personal. But letting a player know there is a series on the line and he is about to lose it for his country, that is part of the game. That’s what we did.

“I felt they got quite personal. Although we had an instance in Durban where one of our players [De Kock] did too ... that’s a long story. But overall, I loved the toughness of the cricket played. It’s just the rest that was uncalled for.”

Was De Villiers, during the Lyon incident in Durban, aware of what the spinner had done as he slid towards the crease in vain? “I was. It was a big moment for them in that first Test because I was in good form. I got a text from Lyon afterwards apologising and, look, he’s not a nasty guy, so I took no offence. It wasn’t a good look for cricket but personally? It didn’t mean a lot.”

Maybe I would have been done [without a break from Test cricket]. Retired. When I came back it was like I was 23 again. It was a dream
Despite the series being a tinder box from the outset, few could have predicted the final destructive twist when the tourists were caught ball-tampering in the third Test at Cape Town and the sky caved in on Smith, Warner and Cameron Bancroft. Year bans for the first two, nine months for the latter – has a strip of sandpaper ever wreaked such damage?

“It was blown up massively,” says De Villiers of the worldwide response. “Yes it is a serious matter but it was taken to a level where it really hurt them individually and I felt sorry for them. Especially Smith, who stood up thinking he was doing the right thing by his players. The way he was punished was harsh.


“Wrong is wrong. Guys try to find a way to get the ball to reverse but you have to stay in the laws. Sandpaper? [he chuckles] Sheesh, I don’t know. I have it in my bag but that’s for cleaning my bat.”

Beyond his sympathy for Smith, what comes across is just how much the Australia win meant to De Villiers.

The South African summer was his return to Test cricket after a near two-year hiatus caused by injury and then a voluntary, indefinite break. Despite a career that places him among sport’s finest De Villiers faced something of a backlash for the latter.

That he was prepared to sacrifice Tests but continue playing in the IPL, where he picks up £1.3m a season with RCB, did not sit well among traditionalists. The time off meant six series missed, including trips to Australia and England, but De Villiers is in no doubt it has prolonged his time in the sport.

Would an innings like the one witnessed in Port Elizabeth have been possible without the breather? “Maybe not. Maybe I would have been done. Retired. All I know is when I came back, it was like I was 23 again. It was a dream. That’s how I want to play. You’re not supposed to be going through the motions.

“I had been in a bad place and needed the time away. It’s difficult to explain and probably others wouldn’t understand but everyone’s story is different. Playing for 14 years, having a family, saying goodbye for months – I struggled.

“I just wanted to get away from it all. It’s the entertainment business and people push you up on a pedestal like a hero but I just wanted to be with my family and be normal. I needed a few months to enjoy the basics of life.”

De Villiers’ candour about his mental state should not be underestimated. South African sport is not renowned for its athletes speaking up about such issues and those close to the batsman talk privately about it in strong terms.

And of continuing in the IPL during this time? “I got nailed for that. It was horrible but this is a tournament I cannot miss. I’m not going to sit here and lie to you; financially it is just too good for us as a family. Seven weeks away is not easy and they will come out at some stage. It’s not ideal but it has to be done.

The IPL is a tournament I cannot miss. Financially it is just too good for us as a family
“English and Australian players are paid well, so it’s not always a must to come over. For the rest it is something you have to fit in. If you’re working in South African rands, it’s nice to get a few dollars in the bank.”

Though the exchange rate pulls him in two directions – his IPL deal is reportedly seven times that of his annual retainer with Cricket South Africa – De Villiers stresses he has been well looked after by his country and the supporters back home. The expectation from the latter to play every series can be a struggle, he says, but he recognises a responsibility to them also.

That an all-time great found himself so torn by a sport that has gone beyond saturation point should have been a red flag to its administrators. De Villiers does not profess to have all the answers but says internationally, cricket must become “more clinical”. Less is more, he and many others believe, but things will likely not change before his time is up.

His allegiance to the IPL will not budge and after the month break that follows it, De Villiers will once again meet CSA to plot a route forward. Next year’s World Cup in England is a huge carrot for a player whose dream of lifting the trophy in 2015 was dashed in the semi-finals by New Zealand.

“The main lesson I learned from 2015 is that a World Cup doesn’t define a player’s career. I was broken after that semi and looking for answers. I’d put way too much emphasis on winning a World Cup. So yes, I’d love to be a part of the winning team in 2019 but if it doesn’t work out, so be it.”

Since we spoke, the man they call Mr 360 for his array of shots has lit up the IPL. His 90 not out against Dehli had him hailed as “the best in the world” by Virat Kohli before an electric 68 from 30 balls against Chennai had the big screen screaming: “AB DELIVERS.”

With his mind clear once more, this South African genius is doing just that.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...uth-africa-australia-ball-tampering-sympathy?
 
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yup they all feel sorry when its a white player..if the player was a pakistani there would be no sympathy but rather calls to ban us or boycott the country..im sick of hearing this garbage..they cheated!! and got caught for blatant cheating..did they cheat when we played them? how long have they been doing this and getting away with it? what other cheating have they been upto over the years??
 
yup they all feel sorry when its a white player..if the player was a pakistani there would be no sympathy but rather calls to ban us or boycott the country..im sick of hearing this garbage..they cheated!! and got caught for blatant cheating..did they cheat when we played them? how long have they been doing this and getting away with it? what other cheating have they been upto over the years??

For whom they should feel sorry?This is the harshest punishment given by CA not ICC obviously players feel its harsh.Even Indian players said same.
 
Good interview.

Clearly speaks on the financial aspect w.r.t IPL as well as how important it was to take the break from test cricket at that point of time.

Just hope he continues playing for 2-3 years ahead and goes pass the 10000 landmark in both the formats of the game.
 
Wow IPL pays him 7 times to his annual contrat money with CSA
 
For whom they should feel sorry?This is the harshest punishment given by CA not ICC obviously players feel its harsh.Even Indian players said same.

I dont think its harsh..they had sand paper not sweets or chewing gum or their nails..sandpaper!! have you forgotten how they treated Sachin years ago? I dont remember any 2oh we feel sorry for sachin bakwaas" and against Pakistan I remember the "insert racial swear used for pakistanis in the uk" Cheats headlines in the Sun", and court cases, ian bothams moaning on sky news about the 92 final and all sorts..

dont recall any "oh we feel sorry for wasim and waqar for the smear campaign against them and their country"..

sub bakwaas hay..acha hoa hay and I feel zero remorse..actually im pleased they got caught and I hope they now get battered when they play any of the asian teams including afghanistan!!
 
and they start crying like five year olds when they get caught..thats even worse..you cheated now man up and stop crying..
 
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Good interview.

Clearly speaks on the financial aspect w.r.t IPL as well as how important it was to take the break from test cricket at that point of time.

Just hope he continues playing for 2-3 years ahead and goes pass the 10000 landmark in both the formats of the game.

I guess his main target is WC he may retire after 2019
 
So he admits the only reason he plays IPL is the money. Takes some courage to admit that...I respect that.
 
So he admits the only reason he plays IPL is the money. Takes some courage to admit that...I respect that.

It’s Not ‘only’ but the main reason.The context here is not why he is playing IPL,why he is putting IPL over international cricket and he gave best answer possible.
 
It’s Not ‘only’ but the main reason.The context here is not why he is playing IPL,why he is putting IPL over international cricket and he gave best answer possible.

It's the deciding factor to play the IPL and admitting that is pretty courageous.
 
So he admits the only reason he plays IPL is the money. Takes some courage to admit that...I respect that.

Well that was a secret no one knew about. NOT!

Everyone knows this! If there are some people who genuinely believe that money isn't the main motivation behind a foreigner playing in the IPL then I guess we shouldn't wake them up from their fantasy world
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] so why there is voice of giving sitara-e-imtiaz to Darren Sammy. Giving nationality to him. I thought he genuinely cares about Pakistan.
 
[MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] so why there is voice of giving sitara-e-imtiaz to Darren Sammy. Giving nationality to him. I thought he genuinely cares about Pakistan.

I don't follow?

Darren Sammy gets so much love in Pakistan primarily because he does so much more than what he is required to. He was among the first international players to visit and play the country and on top of that convinced so many others such as Marlon Samuels, Malan, Chris Jordan, Du Plessis etc to come and play in Pakistan too. He does all this when he could easily just collect the PSL check like KP, Watson etc.
 
Well that was a secret no one knew about. NOT!

Everyone knows this! If there are some people who genuinely believe that money isn't the main motivation behind a foreigner playing in the IPL then I guess we shouldn't wake them up from their fantasy world

However the question is he stopped playing international cricket but he still didn't stop playing in the IPL. So preferring IPL over country.
 
However the question is he stopped playing international cricket but he still didn't stop playing in the IPL. So preferring IPL over country.

Preferring money. Yes

Btw he is still playing for SA
 
I don't follow?

Darren Sammy gets so much love in Pakistan primarily because he does so much more than what he is required to. He was among the first international players to visit and play the country and on top of that convinced so many others such as Marlon Samuels, Malan, Chris Jordan, Du Plessis etc to come and play in Pakistan too. He does all this when he could easily just collect the PSL check like KP, Watson etc.

Sammy isn't the WI captain, heck he doesn't get selected for the WI team any more, hence, IMO, his willingness to play leagues like the PSL and any other that will have him.

He may have done well by the PSL and Pakistani fans, but if we're going to estimate AbD's reasons for playing in IPL, let's then not underestimate the main motivation Sammy was playing in Pakistan. To earn money in with any team that would take him.
 
Sammy isn't the WI captain, heck he doesn't get selected for the WI team any more, hence, IMO, his willingness to play leagues like the PSL and any other that will have him.

He may have done well by the PSL and Pakistani fans, but if we're going to estimate AbD's reasons for playing in IPL, let's then not underestimate the main motivation Sammy was playing in Pakistan. To earn money in with any team that would take him.


You are not understanding the nuance here

Sammy is getting paid in the PSL but he is doing much more than what his contract entails or what was required of him. there's a good chance he isn't among the highest earners of PSL... Guys like Watson, KP etc probably get paid more. But they do not go above and beyond what is required of them (and fair play to them). Sammy could do the same as well but he doesn't. He takes interest in Pakistan and was among the first major players to not only visit the country to play but convince others as well. Which is why he is appreciated here

Obviously money is what attracted him but he is doing much more for Pakistan than what was required hence the adulation. If he was like a KP and just play in Dubai, collect the pay check in Dubai and go home - not many could have faulted him. But he does more
 
You are not understanding the nuance here

Sammy is getting paid in the PSL but he is doing much more than what his contract entails or what was required of him. there's a good chance he isn't among the highest earners of PSL... Guys like Watson, KP etc probably get paid more. But they do not go above and beyond what is required of them (and fair play to them). Sammy could do the same as well but he doesn't. He takes interest in Pakistan and was among the first major players to not only visit the country to play but convince others as well. Which is why he is appreciated here

Obviously money is what attracted him but he is doing much more for Pakistan than what was required hence the adulation. If he was like a KP and just play in Dubai, collect the pay check in Dubai and go home - not many could have faulted him. But he does more

Yes. Sammy is an especially gifted international superstar who has a special love for Pakistan. :afridi1

You are falling into the same trap you critique.

It's easy to criticize when you are the outsider. But now that you have your own PSL, its claws are getting to your judgement. :uak
 
yup they all feel sorry when its a white player..if the player was a pakistani there would be no sympathy but rather calls to ban us or boycott the country..im sick of hearing this garbage..they cheated!! and got caught for blatant cheating..did they cheat when we played them? how long have they been doing this and getting away with it? what other cheating have they been upto over the years??

There was a deal of sympathy for Amir, a young lad who was led astray.
 
You are not understanding the nuance here

Sammy is getting paid in the PSL but he is doing much more than what his contract entails or what was required of him. there's a good chance he isn't among the highest earners of PSL... Guys like Watson, KP etc probably get paid more. But they do not go above and beyond what is required of them (and fair play to them). Sammy could do the same as well but he doesn't. He takes interest in Pakistan and was among the first major players to not only visit the country to play but convince others as well. Which is why he is appreciated here

Obviously money is what attracted him but he is doing much more for Pakistan than what was required hence the adulation. If he was like a KP and just play in Dubai, collect the pay check in Dubai and go home - not many could have faulted him. But he does more
pcb offerred extra money when a player plays in Pakistan..sooo sammy who is in dire need of money unlike superstars lyk Peterson or watson opted to play in Pakistan to earn extra paycheck...
 
Lol @ Sammy not doing it for money. Gayle doing bhangara, Sammy wearing ethnic clothes and pledging his allegiance to Pakistan, and other antics - all come part of the West Indian entertainment package without which their market value decreases. The (unverified) quote from KP going viral is another example of players making statements to continue to earn their paycheck from wherever they can.

Sammy was a good t20 player and he has my respect but he is a finished international player currently.
 
yup they all feel sorry when its a white player..if the player was a pakistani there would be no sympathy but rather calls to ban us or boycott the country..im sick of hearing this garbage..they cheated!! and got caught for blatant cheating..did they cheat when we played them? how long have they been doing this and getting away with it? what other cheating have they been upto over the years??

The whole world showed lot of sympathy for Mohammed Aamir..
 
Wow! Seven times the contract with CSA! Forget Kolpak, SA players should first focus on IPL. Not saying everyone is going to get ABD deal. Likely no one will. But all good players can get 3,4 and 5 times their CSA contract.
 
Wow! Seven times the contract with CSA! Forget Kolpak, SA players should first focus on IPL. Not saying everyone is going to get ABD deal. Likely no one will. But all good players can get 3,4 and 5 times their CSA contract.

True. But wouldn't IPL bosses be smarter to only offer twice or 3 times what their CSA contract is rather than overpay? I don't have an issue with how much IPL is willing to pay for players but it can still maintain its prestige and tag of 'highest paying league' without having to pay a bucket full of money when they can get away with paying half that.
 
True. But wouldn't IPL bosses be smarter to only offer twice or 3 times what their CSA contract is rather than overpay? I don't have an issue with how much IPL is willing to pay for players but it can still maintain its prestige and tag of 'highest paying league' without having to pay a bucket full of money when they can get away with paying half that.

Why do you want price fixing? Auction should produce whatever money owners willing to pay,there should not be any hidden deals between owners to fix price or manipulate auctions.
 
Why do you want price fixing? Auction should produce whatever money owners willing to pay,there should not be any hidden deals between owners to fix price or manipulate auctions.

What I suggested in no way is price fixing. I'm not asking the IPL franchises to collude but they can really pay 2/3 of what they currently pay and still have the same 'pull' with foreign players.
 
What I suggested in no way is price fixing. I'm not asking the IPL franchises to collude but they can really pay 2/3 of what they currently pay and still have the same 'pull' with foreign players.

You are not understanding how auction works.There is no separate section for foreigners & Indians.Price is purely decided by strategy of teams/supply & demand and in some times just to reduce purse of opposition team random bids happen.

Franchises are paying in Indian Rupees so they don’t bother with conversion factor.If African players get great value due to conversion factor OZ players may not get similar benefits.
 
You are not understanding how auction works.There is no separate section for foreigners & Indians.Price is purely decided by strategy of teams/supply & demand and in some times just to reduce purse of opposition team random bids happen.

Franchises are paying in Indian Rupees so they don’t bother with conversion factor.If African players get great value due to conversion factor OZ players may not get similar benefits.

I know how auction works and understand demand and supply. IPL can reduce the starting bid for most players (not including Indian players) and still be the highest paying league.
 
Well that was a secret no one knew about. NOT!

Everyone knows this! If there are some people who genuinely believe that money isn't the main motivation behind a foreigner playing in the IPL then I guess we shouldn't wake them up from their fantasy world

And what is the motivation behind foreign players playing in PSL...To bring International cricket back to Pakistan
 
There was a deal of sympathy for Amir, a young lad who was led astray.

any sympathy for Muhammed Asif? nope..why? (not saying he deserved it by the way)..these two were seasoned professionals who knowingly cheated and were probably doing it for a long time..why the sympathy for them?

we still hear snide remarks about fixing and ball tampering when it comes to pakistan..nothing was really proven (other than the butt amir case)..yet people are sympathetic to these cheats..please..
 
There are disgusting double standards here.

The Aussies aren't far behind Pakistan in terms of scandals in cricket.
 
any sympathy for Muhammed Asif? nope..why? (not saying he deserved it by the way)..these two were seasoned professionals who knowingly cheated and were probably doing it for a long time..why the sympathy for them?

we still hear snide remarks about fixing and ball tampering when it comes to pakistan..nothing was really proven (other than the butt amir case)..yet people are sympathetic to these cheats..please..

Not sure of your point GK. No sympathy from here for the two older convicted fraudsters. Sympathy for the boy who was led astray by them.
 
and they start crying like five year olds when they get caught..thats even worse..you cheated now man up and stop crying..

Yes I am not sure why they ended up crying in front of the media when they got caught. They act tough on the field when they are winning and sledging the opposition non-stop in order to 'get in their heads.'

I am pretty sure people would not have been sympathetic to them had they not cried.

I wouldn't be surprised if people would have been sympathetic as well to Butt and Asif if they had cried their eyes out.
 
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Not sure of your point GK. No sympathy from here for the two older convicted fraudsters. Sympathy for the boy who was led astray by them.

what I'm trying to say is these two seem to be getting alot of sympathy and are taking advantage of their white priviledge which is not afforded to brown players like Asif. They cheated so blatantly that they should never ever play the game again in any form..
 
any sympathy for Muhammed Asif? nope..why? (not saying he deserved it by the way)..these two were seasoned professionals who knowingly cheated and were probably doing it for a long time..why the sympathy for them?

we still hear snide remarks about fixing and ball tampering when it comes to pakistan..nothing was really proven (other than the butt amir case)..yet people are sympathetic to these cheats..please..

Get your point about white privelege but Asif is the wrong player to bring up here. Cant compare Spot fixing,drugs with tampering.
 
Get your point about white privelege but Asif is the wrong player to bring up here. Cant compare Spot fixing,drugs with tampering.

crime is a crime..end of...where was the sympathy for Wasim and Waqar. It took 25 years..what about for Sachin? inki na suno meray bhai..sub magarmatch kay ansoo. how long have they been upto this? when we toured the last time perhaps? or when you guys toured? We need to be asking whetehr there is a cheating culture in the aussie setup..how long have they been up to it? not being all lovey dovey and giving these cheats some sympathy..
 
There are disgusting double standards here.

The Aussies aren't far behind Pakistan in terms of scandals in cricket.

I must say double standards is quite apparent here.

There were some people here who were praising Smith for coming out in press conference and admitting etc. :facepalm:

Not sure why we are showing so much sympathy for the biggest hypocrites in cricket.

We saw how much sympathy Warner showed to Faf during "mintgate" controversy.Here is Warner statement at that time.

"We hold our heads high & I'd be very disappointed if one of our team members did that. The rules are in place for a reason. If you're not going to use them why bother having them? If you're going to overstep the mark, be prepared to get fined and miss Test matches."

And Warner turned out to be Mastermind of Australia's ball tampering fiasco.
 
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