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Will Babar Azam reach 10k Test runs?

Can Babar Azam get 10k test runs?

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Obaidd

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The prestigious 10k club in test cricket, which not even superstar batsmen like kohli, amla, de Villiers, Clarke could enter. The mark of greatness in batsmanship.

Many of us have been following Babar’s journey starting here at PP since early 2010’s when he played u16. The way he made his mark at international level as well, I was confident he would cross 10k test runs. As a pak cricket fan I believed we finally found HIM. I am not so sure now. The way things are going even 8k would be a reach.

Can Babar Azam enter this club considering how many tests Pakistan plays, his age, and ability? Can he make this dream come true that so many in Pakistan dreamt with him?
 
With Pakistan only playing 6 tests per year, little chance of that happening at the moment.

In the current two-year (2025-27) cycle, Australia and England are playing 22-23 tests, Pakistan just 13 tests.
 
Obaidd said:
The prestigious 10k club in test cricket, which not even superstar batsmen like kohli, amla, de Villiers, Clarke could enter. The mark of greatness in batsmanship.

Many of us have been following Babar’s journey starting here at PP since early 2010’s when he played u16. The way he made his mark at international level as well, I was confident he would cross 10k test runs. As a pak cricket fan I believed we finally found HIM. I am not so sure now. The way things are going even 8k would be a reach.

Can Babar Azam enter this club considering how many tests Pakistan plays, his age, and ability? Can he make this dream come true that so many in Pakistan dreamt with him?
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The mark of true greatness is a 50-plus batting average after playing 100 odd tests
 
Pakistan is hardly playing any test cricket, currently Pakistan is going thru a gap of almost 18 months (one and half year ) of no Test cricket. It is not a question of, can Babar score 10k but is he going to get the chance to do it?
I don't think he will get enough tests to do it. It wouldn't be Babar's fault but PCB's incompetence
 
AZulfi said:
The mark of true greatness is a 50-plus test average after playing 100 odd tests
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I agree with the 50-plus average part. For me it’s 10k and 50-plus together. So Cook, Jayawerdene don’t make it lol to my list even with 10k runs.
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Pakistan is hardly playing any test cricket, currently Pakistan is going thru a gap of almost 18 months (one and half year ) of no Test cricket. It is not a question of, can Babar score 10k but is he going to get the chance to do it?
I don't think he will get enough tests to do it. It wouldn't be Babar's fault but PCB's incompetence
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Babar’s probably already accepted he can’t make it. Imagine even Kohli (who’s like babar pro max lol) didn’t get it and is maybe okay with that. You are right Babar just gets so few tests. His low forties average is not looking pretty either.
 
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Lets assume he continues to play as he is doing currently, play same number of innings per match, remain not out similarly and average same and plays total 100 test matches in his career. This means he will end up playing another 69 not out innings and with similar average of 42.77 he will score another 2951 runs. Round it up and say 3000 runs more at most. He will probably get anywhere between 7 to 7.5k runs. I strongly believe he is older than his stated age and will probably retire early to focus on T20s
 
No. He never intended to anyways

He treats T20 cricket as his prestige format.
 
A phenomenal Test season would mean 1k-1200 runs in a calendar year…

Pakistan doesn’t play the amount of Tests in a year for Babar to do this,

Babar also doesn’t have the desire to dedicate completely for this cause and have a year like Lara, Williamson,Yousuf or Joe Root.

Also Babar doesn’t have the ability to rack up runs like that in all conditions as those guys did.

He is going on to 31…he potentially has 5 years left in cricket.

He needs to score 5k runs in 5 years

No chance!
 
If Pakistan are playing an average of 8 Tests per year,

It means Babar will only play another 40 Tests at max in the next 5 years of his life…. He has already been dropped once…there is no way he will play 40 Tests consecutively…

For this he will have to score 5800 runs in 40 Tests..

I think this equates to an average of 145 runs per Test.
 
He has around 4200 Test runs currently.

Considering Pakistan don't play enough Tests, him reaching 10K could be very challenging. He may surpass Miandad and Inzi, however.
 
He won’t and not because Pakistan plays fewer tests but because he isn’t good enough. 42 average and declining. He is entering Rahane territory.
 
He too far off from 10K mark. Given he is already 30+ years old, his chances are slim to none.

He should focus on scoring tons in tough tours and helping his team win games. That will help him far more than this 10K rally when it comes to stature in history. I had high expectations from him, but he did not kick off to get to the next level.
 
BreadPakoda said:
He won’t and not because Pakistan plays fewer tests but because he isn’t good enough. 42 average and declining. He is entering Rahane territory.
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All batsmen, except cook, have averaged near 50 to get to 10K mark. It's very hard to get near 10K mark if you average near 42 in test cricket. it does not matter if you play for Pakistan or some other nation.

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Very unlikely from where he stays after more than half of his career is done. 8K test runs is decent. However, he will get more than 10K ODI runs and may even be our leading run scorer and centurion.
 
SportsWarrior said:
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Lets assume he continues to play as he is doing currently, play same number of innings per match, remain not out similarly and average same and plays total 100 test matches in his career. This means he will end up playing another 69 not out innings and with similar average of 42.77 he will score another 2951 runs. Round it up and say 3000 runs more at most. He will probably get anywhere between 7 to 7.5k runs. I strongly believe he is older than his stated age and will probably retire early to focus on T20s
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I don’t remember exactly what his career high test average was but I am sure he averaged closer to 50 at some point. His form in past two years has been so bad.

I hope he does play 100 matches and we can see some of those purple patch years that batsmen get in their thirties.
 
Buffet said:
All batsmen, except cook, have averaged near 50 to get to 10K mark. It's very hard to get near 10K mark if you average near 42 in test cricket. it does not matter if you play for Pakistan or some other nation.

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Babar’s average must have fallen by 5 runs since 2022.

Cook is such an outlier for his average in that list.
 
Rana said:
A phenomenal Test season would mean 1k-1200 runs in a calendar year…

Pakistan doesn’t play the amount of Tests in a year for Babar to do this,

Babar also doesn’t have the desire to dedicate completely for this cause and have a year like Lara, Williamson,Yousuf or Joe Root.

Also Babar doesn’t have the ability to rack up runs like that in all conditions as those guys did.

He is going on to 31…he potentially has 5 years left in cricket.

He needs to score 5k runs in 5 years

No chance!
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All very good points. His saving grace is 2022 though when he made close to 1200 runs and showed that he can toil and grind it out as well including that 196. Which reminds me that he has 0 double hundreds and those 10k guys tend to score a lot of them.
 
BreadPakoda said:
He won’t and not because Pakistan plays fewer tests but because he isn’t good enough. 42 average and declining. He is entering Rahane territory.
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His 42 average doesn’t cut it but number of matches remains a hurdle too.
Let’s say he plays 6 more years and 8 matches every year. Ends up with 59+48=107 matches. He’d need to be the fastest in history to get there in terms of number of matches.
 
Nay.... We are not playing enough test cricket to get to that milestone... Maybe around 8k
 
Virat Kohli himself couldn't reach it after playing 123 test matches.

Babar has played less then half of that amount, only at 59 test matches and only scheduled to play 2 more this year. By age the time he turns 32 he will have only played 72 test matches assuming he doesnt get dropped.

Not a high match count and secondly excluding cook who played 160+ test matches, every other batter avg 50+ and played atleast 115+ games to get to the 10K runs marks.

Babar avg 42 only.
 
BreadPakoda said:
He won’t and not because Pakistan plays fewer tests but because he isn’t good enough. 42 average and declining. He is entering Rahane territory.
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Even after considering Rahane's below par last few years, still won't trade him for Babar
 
Given reducing volume of Test cricket except for Eng, I guess Harry Brook will be the last batter who will reach 10k test runs
 
mominsaigol said:
Virat Kohli himself couldn't reach it after playing 123 test matches.

Babar has played less then half of that amount, only at 59 test matches and only scheduled to play 2 more this year. By age the time he turns 32 he will have only played 72 test matches assuming he doesnt get dropped.

Not a high match count and secondly excluding cook who played 160+ test matches, every other batter avg 50+ and played atleast 115+ games to get to the 10K runs marks.

Babar avg 42 only.
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Also, he will need roads at home

PCB ain’t serving any roads at the moment
 
Obaidd said:
His 42 average doesn’t cut it but number of matches remains a hurdle too.
Let’s say he plays 6 more years and 8 matches every year. Ends up with 59+48=107 matches. He’d need to be the fastest in history to get there in terms of number of matches.
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It’s a catch-22. He doesn’t play enough test cricket to rack up big numbers, but he only gets to play at all because he’s in a team that allows him to get in the XI despite his numbers. Had he played for Aus / India / England (teams that actually play a lot more), he’d be dropped by now.
 
For a Pakistan batsman to reach 10K runs again, he would have to be:

a) very young when he makes his test debut
b) a phenomenal talent
c) a middle-order/top order batsman, instead of an opener
c) someone who can find a way to remain consistent for most of his career

Babar is not in that category anymore.
 
I would be surprised if he overtakes Inzimam and Miandad with his 42 average style of play
 
At an avg of 42 babar would literally need to play 257 innings to get to 10K test runs lol.

Even kohli played 210 innings and couldnt get their at an avg of 46.

257 innings would be anywhere from 149 to 160 test matches lol.

No chance in hell he's getting their.
 
Remember when pak fans used to say it’s not Fab 4 anymore it’s Fab 5?

Well 2 in the Fab 4 crossed 10k and are still active. 1 is still playing and has 9k with a great chance of getting to 10k while kohli was content to retire just 2 bumper series away from it.

All in all, the comparisons with Fab 4 were never on. King bobsie will have to work really hard to even enter the pak test greats club. Alas.
 
Obaidd said:
Remember when pak fans used to say it’s not Fab 4 anymore it’s Fab 5?

Well 2 in the Fab 4 crossed 10k and are still active. 1 is still playing and has 9k with a great chance of getting to 10k while kohli was content to retire just 2 bumper series away from it.

All in all, the comparisons with Fab 4 were never on. King bobsie will have to work really hard to even enter the pak test greats club. Alas.
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Tbf, I don't think 10K runs is a fair metric in test cricket.

Runs are often match count dependant and Aus, India and Eng have an advantage over other nations who often play 13 to 16 tests max in a test cycle while the big 3 play 18 to 22 give or take with often 2 extra one off tests against Zimbabwe or Afghanistan.

However yes Babar is an extremely poor test batsmen.

1) Steve Smith avg 56 and a 40+ avg in every country he has played 5+ test games in, Had a freak 8 year peak, scored 750+ runs in a series vs India and England etc etc.

2) Joe root avg 51 and a 40+ avg in every country excluding Australia. Is close to becoming no 1 test scorer of all time and has bashed India more times then any other test batter in history.

3) Kohli despite a fall off to 46, still can be remembered as a goat test captain who made his team damn near unbeatable even if as a player he is more so a Laxman level batsmen and not an ATG test batter.

4) Williamson despite having a poor record in many countries is still the greatest HTB of his era followed by being a very good test captain in general. He's also the only member of the fab 4 to dominate bumrah and hence the 45 avg vs NZ. And he still avg 50+.

Babar is nowhere near in status. He has only 1 overseas test century, a very weak average. Even during ramiz Raja era, he as a 70 avg HTB got outperformed by pretty much everyone from Root, to Brooks, to usman Khawaja to Warner etc etc on those flat home tracks who were all avg 100+. He even got outperformed by his own peers such as Shan Masood, Saud Shakeel, Rizwam on overseas tours in south africa, Australia and Sri Lanka.
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar is nowhere near in status. He has only 1 overseas test century, a very weak average. Even during ramiz Raja era, he as a 70 avg HTB got outperformed by pretty much everyone from Root, to Brooks, to usman Khawaja to Warner etc etc on those flat home tracks who were all avg 100+. He even got outperformed by his own peers such as Shan Masood, Saud Shakeel, Rizwam on overseas tours in south africa, Australia and Sri Lanka.
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This is such a scathing but on point assessment. The stats that have been highlighted here in this thread have made it clear that regardless of the number of matches, Babar’s 10k is a non-starter.

He has 2 away centuries but even that’s a joke. I was till not long ago on the same bandwagon of inevitable greatness for babar.

Maybe at one point in time, babar was the best all format batsman in the world. Even kohli said that about him.
 
Obaidd said:
This is such a scathing but on point assessment. The stats that have been highlighted here in this thread have made it clear that regardless of the number of matches, Babar’s 10k is a non-starter.

He has 2 away centuries but even that’s a joke. I was till not long ago on the same bandwagon of inevitable greatness for babar.

Maybe at one point in time, babar was the best all format batsman in the world. Even kohli said that about him.
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He never was. He wasn't > Any era kohli or Warner.

Tbf in his prime, he was > Joe root in Odi. But root has far surpassed him in everything except t20 but babar isn’t in t20 anymore either
 
He will probably only play another 20-25 test matches in his career, considering how few test matches Pakistan plays. He would do well to reach 7K runs in tests.
 
How much babar has fallen from this peak


Kohli said in 2023: “top batsman in the world right now across formats”

For me his worst bits have been asking kohli to sign his bat after losing a wc match as captain and stabbing Shaheen in the back.

These two incidents reveal the shallowness of his thinking and go beyond poor performances as a cricketer.

And yes the 10k dream is over.
 
Babar Azam will break every single Pakistani Batting record 🤡
 
Let’s see.

Babar is 30 now and has 4200 odd runs.

Pak play about 13 tests in the next cycle. Let’s say he has a Shubman Gill type series and scores 800 in every series, let’s round it to 2000 runs.

So at age 32 he will be at 6000 odd runs.

By same measure let’s give him 2000 runs every 2 years. So 4000 more runs would take 4 years.

So it would take all things remaining the same like scheduling, Babar having magical series after series- by age 36 he can reach 10000 runs.

We are assuming his form staying above par constantly. On top of that there will be low
Scoring Bangladesh pitches and SENA tours.

Impossible to nahi keh sakte par Mushkil zaroor hai :kapil
 
Babar is past his peak, cannot break into his fav T20 format let alone get to 10k in tests. Has 1 Test century in SENA and a dipping average- not exactly the records to excite anybody outside of Pakistan

I would say he will end somewhere between 5-6k.
 
It’s a well known phenomenon and we have seen countless batsman do it - thirties are the most productive period for test batsmen generally where they just hit a purple patch and then just keep on going.

A focused babar can do exactly that. Problem is he’s not focused at all. He’ll be ready to play Toronto league or gawalmandi league for all he cares.
 
I feel like this thread is a bit flawed.

Their lots of cricketers who have been great at test cricket despite not reaching 10K runs.

Infact only 15 batters in history have reached that mark. I can comfortably say mattew Hayden is a better test player then Cook despite not being a part of the 10K club.

No offence to @Obaidd but this thread is flawed as its match count dependant and makes it seem like 10K exclusive club is what determines how good a cricketer is.

Babar is a poor test player but for other reasons not realted to runs.

The reason being that he avg 42 despite getting road pitches and playing at home for a majority of his career on pitches where Brooks, Root, Usman Khawaja, David Warner, Ben duckett and many others average 100+.

Even Liton das averages > 80+ on such pitches.

Then he flunked pretty much every overseas tour as well.

But 10K exclusive club is match count dependant. Cook is good but he isnt better then many openers outside the club such as sehwag, Hayden etc etc.
 
mominsaigol said:
I feel like this thread is a bit flawed.

Their lots of cricketers who have been great at test cricket despite not reaching 10K runs.

Infact only 15 batters in history have reached that mark. I can comfortably say mattew Hayden is a better test player then Cook despite not being a part of the 10K club.

No offence to @Obaidd but this thread is flawed as its match count dependant and makes it seem like 10K exclusive club is what determines how good a cricketer is.

Babar is a poor test player but for other reasons not realted to runs.

The reason being that he avg 42 despite getting road pitches and playing at home for a majority of his career on pitches where Brooks, Root, Usman Khawaja, David Warner, Ben duckett and many others average 100+.

Even Liton das averages > 80+ on such pitches.

Then he flunked pretty much every overseas tour as well.

But 10K exclusive club is match count dependant. Cook is good but he isnt better then many openers outside the club such as sehwag, Hayden etc etc.
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Thanks @mominsaigol for this. I agree it’s not the only metric of success but over the course of test history, that’s the criteria only the very few have been able to achieve and hence the ones who do, become unquestionably ‘GREAT’.

Babar was Pak’s best bet, our most hyped player in 20 years. If someone could, he could. He was our own ‘fab’ player and for some time he let his bat talk too. For example, his almost 1200 runs in 2022 show that he can have those mega series and bumper years.

I wanted to apply this criteria to him because as a jazbati pak fan I actually believed he’d be in that bracket by the end of his career.

Now you are right that the number of runs alone should not determine greatness because some players get to play more matches just based on the virtue of the board they are associated with it and makes the comparison less objective. However, we often look at most wickets, most centuries, most catches to determine best of the best.
 
Obaidd said:
However, we often look at most wickets, most centuries, most catches to determine best of the best.
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For example, aren’t most Pak fans waiting for Joe root to make more runs than Tendulkar to declare the superiority of the former on the latter?
 
Obaidd said:
For example, aren’t most Pak fans waiting for Joe root to make more runs than Tendulkar to declare the superiority of the former on the latter?
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Also Kohli didn’t get 10k so he doesn’t get to be test great. You have to draw the line somewhere and in my opinion, greatness for batsmen = 10k runs AND 50+ average.

Applying this also excludes Cook and Jayawerdene from the club.

Someone said 100 matches and 50+ average is the mark. But I like this (10k runs and 50+) criteria more.

Also because we are considering TESTS, this by default brings the batsmen across history in the same comparison, and judged on the same parameters.
 
Very unlikely. He wasn't the best player of spin to begin with and now we're producing raging turners at home, it's hard to see how he gets anywhere close to 10k.

Doesn't seem to have the concentration levels or hunger for big runs either like Younis Khan or Javed Miandad etc. Has only two 150+ scores despite some of the absolute roads we've batted on. Younis on the other hand has thirteen innings of 150+ while Miandad has ten.
 
Local.Dada said:
Let’s see.

Babar is 30 now and has 4200 odd runs.

Pak play about 13 tests in the next cycle. Let’s say he has a Shubman Gill type series and scores 800 in every series, let’s round it to 2000 runs.

So at age 32 he will be at 6000 odd runs.

By same measure let’s give him 2000 runs every 2 years. So 4000 more runs would take 4 years.

So it would take all things remaining the same like scheduling, Babar having magical series after series- by age 36 he can reach 10000 runs.

We are assuming his form staying above par constantly. On top of that there will be low
Scoring Bangladesh pitches and SENA tours.

Impossible to nahi keh sakte par Mushkil zaroor hai :kapil
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Younis (Pak’s greatest test batsman and only member of 10k club) reached the milestone at 39 years in his last series.

He scored 9-10 centuries after turning 35 while Misbah scored almost 3k runs on the other side of 35.

Pak play on average 7.5 tests per year which means he easily gets 65+ more tests if he retires at the same age as younis (39).
 
Obaidd said:
Also Kohli didn’t get 10k so he doesn’t get to be test great. You have to draw the line somewhere and in my opinion, greatness for batsmen = 10k runs AND 50+ average.

Applying this also excludes Cook and Jayawerdene from the club.

Someone said 100 matches and 50+ average is the mark. But I like this (10k runs and 50+) criteria more.

Also because we are considering TESTS, this by default brings the batsmen across history in the same comparison, and judged on the same parameters.
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Virat isn't a great in Tests because of his average of 46 and not because of not reaching 10K. For example till Gavaskar reached the milestone in 1987, no one reached 10K and were still considered greats. Javed Miandad, Viv Richards, Inzamam and Greg Chappell all ended up with less than 10K but were considered greats because of the career they had. For being a great you need to have a great overall career. Play a significant amount of Tests (80+) and end up with an average of 50+ should do it with good performances home and away. 10K is difficult for certain countries like Pakistan, Wi and Sri Lanka in the current scenario as they don't play enough Tests. Babar is a average Test player irrespective of the amount of runs he scores until he keeps averaging 42. If Babar finished with 8K runs at 50+ with runs home and away, he will be a great but that is not going to happen.
 
giri26 said:
Virat isn't a great in Tests because of his average of 46 and not because of not reaching 10K. For example till Gavaskar reached the milestone in 1987, no one reached 10K and were still considered greats. Javed Miandad, Viv Richards, Inzamam and Greg Chappell all ended up with less than 10K but were considered greats because of the career they had. For being a great you need to have a great overall career. Play a significant amount of Tests (80+) and end up with an average of 50+ should do it with good performances home and away. 10K is difficult for certain countries like Pakistan, Wi and Sri Lanka in the current scenario as they don't play enough Tests. Babar is a average Test player irrespective of the amount of runs he scores until he keeps averaging 42. If Babar finished with 8K runs at 50+ with runs home and away, he will be a great but that is not going to happen.
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But Kohli did under achieve massively. He was a 12k-14k batter.
 
Obaidd said:
I don’t remember exactly what his career high test average was but I am sure he averaged closer to 50 at some point. His form in past two years has been so bad.

I hope he does play 100 matches and we can see some of those purple patch years that batsmen get in their thirties.
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He never averaged 50 in test cricket, but he came pretty close by end of 2022

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We barely play test games. Doubt anyone is gonna out score Younis Khan.

Plus, we never have batters that can perform for 10 years or more. Its usually in patches.
 
Obaidd said:
Remember when pak fans used to say it’s not Fab 4 anymore it’s Fab 5?

Well 2 in the Fab 4 crossed 10k and are still active. 1 is still playing and has 9k with a great chance of getting to 10k while kohli was content to retire just 2 bumper series away from it.

All in all, the comparisons with Fab 4 were never on. King bobsie will have to work really hard to even enter the pak test greats club. Alas.
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But than kohli also did not cross 10k, so whats your point?
 
Babar is never gonna score 10k runs... Pakistan is not playing that many games anyway.

Younis will remain the ATG in red ball for Pakistan.
 
Rana said:
But Kohli did under achieve massively. He was a 12k-14k batter.
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Yes he did, he just could not get past his technical flaw and seemed like he could care less to fix the problem either. 6 years of form slump is a lot and not many teams would have carried someone averaging 29-33 for such a long time.
 
Obaidd said:
Thanks @mominsaigol for this. I agree it’s not the only metric of success but over the course of test history, that’s the criteria only the very few have been able to achieve and hence the ones who do, become unquestionably ‘GREAT’.

Babar was Pak’s best bet, our most hyped player in 20 years. If someone could, he could. He was our own ‘fab’ player and for some time he let his bat talk too. For example, his almost 1200 runs in 2022 show that he can have those mega series and bumper years.

I wanted to apply this criteria to him because as a jazbati pak fan I actually believed he’d be in that bracket by the end of his career.

Now you are right that the number of runs alone should not determine greatness because some players get to play more matches just based on the virtue of the board they are associated with it and makes the comparison less objective. However, we often look at most wickets, most centuries, most catches to determine best of the best.
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That isn't true.

Mahela Jayawardena and Alastiar Cook are both extremely extremely good test batters but they are not ATG. Mahela was a bunny in SENA and against bigger teams.

Its just home dens and India that he bashed on end but thats not relevant. India has a habit of making players who are otherwise okayish like Travis head into all time greats since these types of batters become India's Abu.

Cook has an unreal Ashes series but beyond that he is just a good test batter, but not atg material or anything special.

Both mahela and Cook's 12k and 11K runs are tied to their match count, not their overall status.

The likes of Mattew Hayden, Sehwag, Javed Miandad, Graeme Smith, Ab de Villers etc etc are massively > those 2 despite not being a part of the 10K runs club.

Now yes 13 out of 15 members of the 10K runs club are ATG's. But that metric wasnt achieved solely due to a run count.
 
Rana said:
A phenomenal Test season would mean 1k-1200 runs in a calendar year…

Pakistan doesn’t play the amount of Tests in a year for Babar to do this,

Babar also doesn’t have the desire to dedicate completely for this cause and have a year like Lara, Williamson,Yousuf or Joe Root.

Also Babar doesn’t have the ability to rack up runs like that in all conditions as those guys did.

He is going on to 31…he potentially has 5 years left in cricket.

He needs to score 5k runs in 5 years

No chance!
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Unless he does a Misbah and plays Tests till 43.
 
mominsaigol said:
Even if that were the case, I counted. Babar would reach 160 test matches give or take.

At an avg of 42 he'd come up short. Cook avg 45, not 42. Big difference
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Babar is likely to be available for T20i by the age of 43 than he is for Test.

He is only available for Test so that he can continue to push for T20 selection, otherwise if he were allowed to have his way he would retire from Test right now and only make himself available for ODI and T20. He’s going to retire the next time he is dropped or by 34/35
 
Major said:
But than kohli also did not cross 10k, so whats your point?
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I don’t have a point, I have a journey. Back in 2010s and beyond, I was sold the chooran on PP (and rest of pak cricket-verse) that babar was comparable to Fab 4 and I happily bought it.

Just smelling the coffee now that let alone 10k he might not even get 8k. Our golden boy, turns out, wasn’t that special after all and the realisation hurts.
 
Rana said:
He is going on to 31…he potentially has 5 years left in cricket.

He needs to score 5k runs in 5 years

No chance!
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Alternate scenario: he plays till he’s 39-40 (like younis). He would need 5800 runs in 9 years which is on average less than 700 runs per year. Not that far-fetched..
 
giri26 said:
Yes he did, he just could not get past his technical flaw and seemed like he could care less to fix the problem either. 6 years of form slump is a lot and not many teams would have carried someone averaging 29-33 for such a long time.
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Kohli’s retirement so close to 10k was a surprise and honestly it hurt his legacy. If he had stuck around he’d have gotten there within 1 year and Indian cricket would have benefited from having a 4th 10k club member.

Kind of like Mulder declaring at 367.
 
Who the hell even cares anymore, is this guy even relevant still? Pak fans have moved onto pinning their hopes on other talent

If I see him in my local club league I will fancy my chances with the tape ball in hand just like I would with the marketing marvel Sachin at any stage of his career
 
Obaidd said:
Alternate scenario: he plays till he’s 39-40 (like younis). He would need 5800 runs in 9 years which is on average less than 700 runs per year. Not that far-fetched..
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He doesn’t have that kind of desire

He’s available for T20 at that age

Not Test cricket
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Pakistan is hardly playing any test cricket, currently Pakistan is going thru a gap of almost 18 months (one and half year ) of no Test cricket. It is not a question of, can Babar score 10k but is he going to get the chance to do it?
I don't think he will get enough tests to do it. It wouldn't be Babar's fault but PCB's incompetence
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18 months? They literally played 9 tests from August 2024 to January 2025...
 
Forget 10,000 test runs. I think he will do well to reach 7000.
 
Obaidd said:
I don’t have a point, I have a journey. Back in 2010s and beyond, I was sold the chooran on PP (and rest of pak cricket-verse) that babar was comparable to Fab 4 and I happily bought it.

Just smelling the coffee now that let alone 10k he might not even get 8k. Our golden boy, turns out, wasn’t that special after all and the realisation hurts.
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but one memeber of fab 4 also dindt get 10k
 
Major said:
but one memeber of fab 4 also dindt get 10k
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Kind of by choice though. His choice of course, but baffling.

Younis for example didn’t hide his desire to chase 10k and talked about what it meant to him and to his country.

In a similar vein, Kohli had he chased by staying on a year longer could have had a bigger overall positive impact on Indian cricket. I am sure everybody here would have held him in much higher stature had he retired with 10k runs even if it took a few more series.
 
Hell nah

He is not a great test player unfortunately

And we don't play as many tests like England

So max 7k or 8 if he improves himself in this format
 
Getting 10k in test cricket is a much coveted feat amongst the great cricketers.

Here is Younis detailing his desire in 2017:

"This isn't something sudden, this was always building up and few of my close friends knew it. Although I had a plan to retire after surpassing Javed bhai's [Miandad] runs record, then I was motivated to complete 10,000 runs so I have decided to get them. The reason I announced it beforehand was people start asking me for more, they could then ask me to take 11,000 or 12,000 or I may start thinking about reaching Sachin's 15,000 runs. Humans can never be satisfied but I am not of an age to make it that far, so I want people to respect my decision and allow me to fulfil my future plans."
 
Obaidd said:
Getting 10k in test cricket is a much coveted feat amongst the great cricketers.

Here is Younis detailing his desire in 2017:

"This isn't something sudden, this was always building up and few of my close friends knew it. Although I had a plan to retire after surpassing Javed bhai's [Miandad] runs record, then I was motivated to complete 10,000 runs so I have decided to get them. The reason I announced it beforehand was people start asking me for more, they could then ask me to take 11,000 or 12,000 or I may start thinking about reaching Sachin's 15,000 runs. Humans can never be satisfied but I am not of an age to make it that far, so I want people to respect my decision and allow me to fulfil my future plans."
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Here Younis is hyping Kohli to get 10k runs:

“To score 10,000 runs you have to make up your mind first. If you take an example of Virat Kohli after Sachin Tendulkar's retirement, he went on with an aim and a goal. So I am sure in the coming years he will surpass Sachin."
 
Younis hyping babar and kohli to get 10k+ runs in 2024.

“He (babar) has achieved so much at this age. He needs to focus on the future. Captaincy is a minor in the bigger scheme of things. He has the ability to score 15,000 runs, but for that he has to rise above the controversies around captaincy. He can look up to Virat Kohli, who has stepped down as captain and is now set out to break records.”
 
He would need to play 149-160 tests give or take to get to 10K at an avg of 42.

No chance in hell.
 
mominsaigol said:
He would need to play 149-160 tests give or take to get to 10K at an avg of 42.

No chance in hell.
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If he scores a couple of triple centuries not out things can change.

If his average gets to 55+, he can do it by 2032-33
 
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