Afghanistan beat Bangladesh by 2 wickets in the 2nd ODI

[imteaz]

Asian country ranking:
India
Pakistan
Srilanka
Afghanistan
Nepal
Hongkong
UAE
Bangladesh

 

[JaDed]

Nazibullah scored 1 runs only after that so the answer should be 0

Its what the pressure could had done to the next bat.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Some extremely bitter posts in this thread sadly.

A good game, not too high on quality but plenty of thrill in the last half. Bangladesh has found a gem in Saiket from the looks of it and continue to produce top quality young players. Good signs for the future.

Congratulations Afghanistan for winning against a good team in their den. The series is alive. They do need more cricket to truly become a force though and hopefully they'll get some cricket.

 

[JaDed]

Everyone thought Bangladesh would had come harder on Afghans in the next two but they got surprised by Afghans(inspite of a terrible batting performance). The problem with desi coaches is discipline is never acquired by team,Afghans should fire Lalchand and get some Non-Asian or Whatmore for the job.

 

[Professor]

Does this affect the rankings at all? Also what happens ranking wise if Afghanistan wins the series?

 

[The Googly]

Afghans sgould be 2-0 up. They managed to grab defeat from the jaws of victory in game 1. The Bengalis - what can you say? Mirpur is the ground where they have a big advantage over other teams. It is a low scoring ground and they know how to win here based on familiarity in the main. And yet - I would suggest that Afghans have looked the better team over both games.

 

[mz123]

What's so funny about it. If u still think that Afghans r still a pushover in limited overs Cricket then u r living in the wrong world mate. They have one of the best bowling attack from Asia. That leggi, I've forgot his name but any team would love to have a bowler like him.

Can't cross 280, and dreaming about 500 )

 

[Executioner]

Problem with Bangladesh is that they are not being able to find their feet. I won't be alarmed by our performance.

1 year back, South Africa came to BD and were all out for 180 and 190 odd in back to back matches. Yes, and those wickets weren't bad, BD lost only 3 wickets in the same matches. SA was just having a hard time finding their feet. They missed ABDV but still full strength. We were able to exploit their off-form batsman completely. Faf, Amla, Farhaan, Miller weren't in the best of form.

Same is happening to us right now, Soumya is out form. Mushy not in great form either. Shakib's form has not been great with the bat at all. As a result, you see how our batting struggled. Afghanistan had quality bowlers who made us struggle.

 

[Prince_]

Man u take u turn very quickly you are such a "dheet person" arguing with you is useless

best odi team in asia just rolled over by afghan brothers home track bulley still are minnows

LOL. Where did I take u turn. Man, u r reading too much into my post.

I always argue with logic and factual data. U'll always learn the real ruth by arguing with me.

I've said 2nd best, not best. And upset does happen in cricket, right? Do u Remember how the mighty aussies were humiliated by a 5.5 footer Ashraful? Let's say this lose by Bangla is something similar Like that.

 

[mz123]

Problem with Bangladesh is that they are not being able to find their feet. I won't be alarmed by our performance.

1 year back, South Africa came to BD and were all out for 180 and 190 odd in back to back matches. Yes, and those wickets weren't bad, BD lost only 3 wickets in the same matches. SA was just having a hard time finding their feet. They missed ABDV but still full strength. We were able to exploit their off-form batsman completely. Faf, Amla, Farhaan, Miller weren't in the best of form.

Same is happening to us right now, Soumya is out form. Mushy not in great form either. Shakib's form has not been great with the bat at all. As a result, you see how our batting struggled. Afghanistan had quality bowlers who made us struggle.

Plz, just accept the fact that you still need a lot of improvement...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

how many points did banglades lose in the rankings..

 

[The Googly]

For those blaming this on Bengladesh rustiness. Really? They have all played club cricket. And have stayed fit. And this excuse - if valid - only applied for game one. Not the 2nd game. Afghans won because they look a better bowling side.

 

[Haroon786]

Bangladesh back to where they belong it seems.

 

[The Googly]

Problem with Bangladesh is that they are not being able to find their feet. I won't be alarmed by our performance.

1 year back, South Africa came to BD and were all out for 180 and 190 odd in back to back matches. Yes, and those wickets weren't bad, BD lost only 3 wickets in the same matches. SA was just having a hard time finding their feet. They missed ABDV but still full strength. We were able to exploit their off-form batsman completely. Faf, Amla, Farhaan, Miller weren't in the best of form.

Same is happening to us right now, Soumya is out form. Mushy not in great form either. Shakib's form has not been great with the bat at all. As a result, you see how our batting struggled. Afghanistan had quality bowlers who made us struggle.

All teams have players out of form. The problem here is that Bangladesh are playing a non test nation at HOME where they are very competetitive in ODIs in recent times. And the Afghans look a better side (certainly in bowling and fielding). If you make a combined 11 of the 2 teams, I'd put about 5 Afghans in there! And that is huge issue for a so called test nation. I want the Bengalis to succeed - I'm just being honest.

 

[Executioner]

Plz, just accept the fact that you still need a lot of improvement...

Ofcourse we need improvement. But more importantly, our players need to get out of their holiday moods and work hard.

All teams have players out of form. The problem here is that Bangladesh are playing a non test nation at HOME where they are very competetitive in ODIs in recent times. And the Afghans look a better side (certainly in bowling and fielding). If you make a combined 11 of the 2 teams, I'd put about 5 Afghans in there! And that is huge issue for a so called test nation. I want the Bengalis to succeed - I'm just being honest.

Afghans are an excellent side. However, we have more quality players, quality players that helped us beat India, pak, SA and compete well in CWC.

I will give credit to the afghans dedication. They spent their Eid focusing on this series. They deserved to do well.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Bangladesh should step up in third game and win convincingly.
Afghanistan looked very competetive and deserve more games against PAk, SL, WI, NZ in asien conditions.

 

[Syed1]

I'd like to offer my deepest condolences to my brothers [MENTION=139394]Prince_[/MENTION] and [MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION].

Once a minnow always a minnow

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Bangla purple patch over?

 

[imteaz]

Bangladesh will lose at least 3 points due to loss against Afghan

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Love a good bangla bashing (purely cricket nothing else)

 

[Napa]

I'd like to offer my deepest condolences to my brothers [MENTION=139394]Prince_[/MENTION] and [MENTION=137485]Dios[/MENTION].

Once a minnow always a minnow

You should be a bit careful with your taunts. After all Afghanistan is 1-1 playing in Bangladesh where Pakistan lost 3-0. So what does this result mean for Pakistan with respect to Afghanistan?

 

[Syed1]

You should be a bit careful with your taunts. After all Afghanistan is 1-1 playing in Bangladesh where Pakistan lost 3-0. So what does this result mean for Pakistan with respect to Afghanistan?

India also lost

 

[Prince_]

Bangladesh should step up in third game and win convincingly.
Afghanistan looked very competetive and deserve more games against PAk, SL, WI, NZ in asien conditions.

U r too polite mate. It's not that Bangla batters haven't tried. They did but they weren't allowed to score freely by the Afghan bowlers. Nabi and that young leggi bowled flawlessly in the 2nd odi. The way they bowled today and exploited the condition was just fantastic. Any team would've struggled to score against them.

 

[Napa]

how many points did banglades lose in the rankings..

About 1.5 to 2 points. However it doesn't matter for Pakistan's ranking. They are so much behind Bangladesh, that even if Bang lost the next match to Afg and lost 0-3 to England, and Pakistan won 3-0 against the WI, Bang would still be ahead.

 

[Napa]

India also lost

And if I saw an Indian taunting Bang, I would also remind him.

 

[Executioner]

No point comparing India/Pak/SA to Afghanistan.

Afghanistan are playing a rusty BD side. Pak/India played a BD side with momentum, not of winning but being in the mix of cricket. If you watch us play you will realize that it is a side that hasn't played cricket for a while.

If India played us now, they would win 3-0 or 2-1

 

[Syed1]

And if I saw an Indian taunting Bang, I would also remind him.

It is only for hansi mazaq

You need to relax

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

No point comparing India/Pak/SA to Afghanistan.

Afghanistan are playing a rusty BD side. Pak/India played a BD side with momentum, not of winning but being in the mix of cricket. If you watch us play you will realize that it is a side that hasn't played cricket for a while.

If India played us now, they would win 3-0 or 2-1

What if PAK play you now?

 

[Napa]

Okay... so even MIG bhai doesn't like B'desh like most other Pak posters in this forum

I think Pakistanis still have feelings of ownership when it comes to Bangladesh, while Indians never had.

On the other side, I have seen the older Bangladeshi posters still being in awe of Pakistan, whereas the younger ones could care less.

 

[Napa]

It is only for hansi mazaq

You need to relax

I got all righteous just to needle you bro, like you were needling the Bangs

 

[Executioner]

What if PAK play you now?

I would say 2-1 to either side. With Fizz, BD would be favourites though.

One thing I will say is, in LOIs, Afghans have the best spin attack in Rashid Khan and Mohammad Nabi. Their pace attack isn't exemplary as it used to be though.

 

[imteaz]

India and Pakistan never lost to Afghan

 

[MMHS]

Congrats to Afghans to a fantastic win. It's not that they won by chance - out performed the better ranked team in every aspect. They could have been 2-0 up with a bit of experience.

It's good for cricket that one more team is rising from their native player base.

Great win, would definitely watch the Full match on Saturday.

 

[Bade496]

Afghanistan in this tour uptil now has been the better team, in all departments, which is not only extraordinary but it also shows Bangladesh is 7th ranking mite be too high. No question Afghanistan played suicidal cricket batting wise in both their matches, it felt both teams are running to lose but heartening to see Afg cross the line, hopefully this will give them much needed confidence in not choking in the match.

Bangladesh is 98 points followed by WI 94, Pak 86, Afg 48. In terms of ranking this is a massive upset, game wise Afg [leaving aside their pathetic game in end overs] is a much better side than Bangladesh.

 

[Syed1]

I think Pakistanis still have feelings of ownership when it comes to Bangladesh, while Indians never had.

On the other side, I have seen the older Bangladeshi posters still being in awe of Pakistan, whereas the younger ones could care less.

No, try again.

Perhaps you haven't spent enough time on this forum. Last year when Bangladesh demolished Pakistan at home the BD supporters went overboard in their celebrations declaring Pakistan a nothing side, completely rubbishing the 20 years of consistent phainti we have dished out to them.

That is why Pakistanis are rejoicing because the arrogant BD supporters have been cut to size.

 

[imteaz]

Nepal or Hongkong would easily beat this bd team anywhere in the world include mirpur.

 

[Prince_]

We are number one ranked test team.. That's where we are.. Bangladesh had one fluke year now they're back to Minnows in all formats.

U r a no 9 ranked team and a certified minnow in Odis . lol. Pak might even get out of the top 10 list since Afghanistan and Ireland have emerged as good odi teams. U should better worry about how r u gonna beat other minnows in the qualifying stage of the upcoming champion trophy

 

[Strike!]

Is this Afghanistan's first win against a test playing nation or did they win something against Zimbabwe in the past?

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

I think Pakistanis still have feelings of ownership when it comes to Bangladesh, while Indians never had.

On the other side, I have seen the older Bangladeshi posters still being in awe of Pakistan, whereas the younger ones could care less.

No we don't. Its a friendly rivalry. Troll post.

 

[Syed1]

U r a no 9 ranked team and a certified minnow in Odis . lol. Pak might even get out of the top 10 list since Afghanistan and Ireland have emerged as good odi teams. U should better worry about how r u gonna beat other minnows in the qualifying stage of the upcoming champion trophy

Pakistan is just keeping the no.9 spot warm for our Bengali brothers till they return to their rightful place. That is the least we can do for our brothers

 

[Prince_]

Pakistan is just keeping the no.9 spot warm for our Bengali brothers till they return to their rightful place. That is the least we can do for our brothers

Pls keep doing that. Because our afghan brothers will love that warm no 9 spot. They might even send a thanks letter to their friendly neighbours for keeping that spot nice and warm

98 and 101. Do u know what do these two numbers represent? Haha, that's the point difference between no 6 and no 7 team in ICC odi Ranking. Bangla will soon grab that no 6 position. It's only a matter of time.

 

[Syed1]

Pls keep doing that. Because our afghan brothers will love that warm no 9 spot. They might even send a thanks letter to their friendly neighbours for keeping that spot nice and warm

98 and 101. Do u know what do these two numbers represent? Haha, that's the point difference between no 6 and no 7 team in ICC odi Ranking. Bangla will soon grab that no 6 position. It's only a matter of time.

You just lost three rating points after today. So Bangla will have 95 points now not 98. Hehehe

 

[Prince_]

You just lost three rating points after today. So Bangla will have 95 points now not 98. Hehehe

Ahh don't worry my dear friend. Bangla will soon regain those points by Banglawashing England. Keep faith.

 

[Gordon.Freeman]

You just lost three rating points after today. So Bangla will have 95 points now not 98. Hehehe

Check your self: http://www.icc-cricket.com/team-rankings/odi

 

[sshakir411]

You just lost three rating points after today. So Bangla will have 95 points now not 98. Hehehe

these fans are definitely not the 'Best in math in Asia'

 

[Syed1]

Check your self: http://www.icc-cricket.com/team-rankings/odi

Ratings are only adjusted after series ends. You will have plenty to worry about soon

 

[The_Odd_One]

Everybody's a bit rough on Bangladesh. They are playing ODIs after like 1 year.

However, Bangladeshi fans should also realize that they can't mock other teams and make ridiculous claims (e.g. calling themselves best team in Asia, mini Australia, etc.) just after 1 good year at home. They need to perform consistently well to gain respect of fans from other countries.

 

[The Googly]

I find it disappointing that after 20 years as a test nation, Bangladesh's high points are :

1. One 3 nil ODI win at home v Pakistan.
2. One home ODI series win v India
3. One home ODI series win v SA
4. Reaching QF of 2015 world cup (Kenya have done better - got to 2007 semis)

On the other hand :
1. Absolutely awful record in the format of cricket which is the true test of ability - test cricket. No wins away from home and only won at home v awful teams.
2. Afghanistan genuinely look a better team.
3. If BD played Ireland in Ireland, it would be a close contest.
4. Look at where ALL the other countries were after 20 years and you see how little BD progressed (Lankans won a world cup within 15 years, Pak had drawn a test series in England within 7 years).

It is not a witch hunt v BD. I'm a fan. I am just disappointed in BD as a test nation.

 

[GudduBadmash]

Is this Afghanistan's first win against a test playing nation or did they win something against Zimbabwe in the past?

Their U19 have beaten all the other U19 teams up until now,have beaten Pakistan in a few unofficial T20 peace matches.

Beat West Indies
Beaten Zimbabwe a few times
Beaten Bangladesh twice

Should have beaten Srilanka twice
Should have beaten England in the T20 world cup
Should have chased a big total vs SA


In the end they choked but that is understandable, no exposure to such situations against the test nations

 

[Shutdown Corner]

I find it disappointing that after 20 years as a test nation, Bangladesh's high points are :

1. One 3 nil ODI win at home v Pakistan.
2. One home ODI series win v India
3. One home ODI series win v SA
4. Reaching QF of 2015 world cup (Kenya have done better - got to 2007 semis)

On the other hand :
1. Absolutely awful record in the format of cricket which is the true test of ability - test cricket. No wins away from home and only won at home v awful teams.
2. Afghanistan genuinely look a better team.
3. If BD played Ireland in Ireland, it would be a close contest.
4. Look at where ALL the other countries were after 20 years and you see how little BD progressed (Lankans won a world cup within 15 years, Pak had drawn a test series in England within 7 years).

It is not a witch hunt v BD. I'm a fan. I am just disappointed in BD as a test nation.

To be fair though, all the highlights you mentioned have come in the last 20 months, not last 20 years. You have to take everything into context.

Bangladesh didn't have the same exposure that Afghanistan and Ireland have benifitted from when we were Associates. There was no Intercontinental Cup or World Cricket League, which means we had to rely on sporadic tours from the MCC or Hyderabad Blues for decent fixtures. Cricket was also not as popular in Bangladesh as it was in India or Pakistan until 1997.

Afghanistan and Ireland still get the occaisional bilateral series vs established sides. I think Bangladesh had just a solitary 2 match series vs the West Indies before getting Test status, plus a handful of tri series always featuring Kenya as one of the other sides in the lead up to the 1999 World Cup.

We haven't just made the QF of the world cup once. We did make the super 8s in 2007 in both ODI and T20 world cups.

Our progress has been slow, but we are now finally producing results and will continue to do so. One or two losses against a well oiled Afghan team when we've been out any competitive cricket for 6 months can't change that.

All the progress you highlighted came right on the heels of continuous cricket from the 2015 World Cup onwards.

That being said, Afghanistan are not the worthless side people make them out to be. Their ODI bowling is better than Pakistan's and many other test nations. True, their batting needs work, but they are a very talented team that has already left Ireland and Zimbabwe in a tier below them. They too will continue to get better with time and exposure.

 

[Anfield]

U r a no 9 ranked team and a certified minnow in Odis . lol. Pak might even get out of the top 10 list since Afghanistan and Ireland have emerged as good odi teams. U should better worry about how r u gonna beat other minnows in the qualifying stage of the upcoming champion trophy

We might be a Minnows in one format but kings in the format that really matters unlike your team which is horrible in both formats. Worry about your qualification which can't even beat Afghanistan, which is a new low even for Bangladesh lol

 

[Statsman]

Nazibullah scored 1 runs only after that so the answer should be 0

Mushfiqur dropped him (tough chance though) when he was at 0.

 

[The Googly]

Really? Lol. Let's be honest. Pakistan are a very poor odi side. But please don't let BD's 3-0 victory last year fool you. Pakistan would demolish BD in an ODI series played now or next year. They simply have far better players. And no - Afghan odi bowling is not in the same class as Pakistans! Lol - that was a hilarious comment!

And Afghan's bowling better then MANY other test nations?? lol. I count one. Bangladesh!

Seriously - as a Pakistan supporter - it also hurts me that BD have not improved. I'm a fan. But let's be honest. BD are not much better then 15 years ago and that's a disappointment.